now i know why free hosting s****

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I am an avid reader here. i joined here since August.

Because i don't have a paypal or a credit card to purchase any domain and hosting i tried free hosting services with auto install scripts.

Because i don't have the technical knowledge to install scripts, or even modify the wordpress themes.

This free hosting is not popular at all. After iv'e created my blog yesterday and now check it again its said temporarily in downtime.

I really wanted to make money online but i can't because i don't have the skills to make even a custom site.

I never graduated in grade school that's why i am not that good in english. Yes probably you will tell me to get a job but i can't anymore.

No need to explain why i can't get a job. I don't want to be banned here because people here in warrior forum is my inspiration.

You inspired me that making money in web is possible. I really wanted but i don't know how. No skill at all nada. so i wanted to create a site that sell banner exchange.or a celebrity poll website in my local country and sell ad space.

i've created the second one and it s****.probably people here tell me to go to fiverr i did and never get a gig. I also tried ptc and scammed. I also tried CPA but never accepts me because of my country.

But i am not losing hope i know i can make it. For my Son that needs me. Many of you taught me here and i appreciated it. But because of no budget,no technical skill.

i just read here and be inspired of you people who make a living online. I hope i never get banned here for this post.

I WILL NEVER GIVE UP!
#free #hosting
  • Profile picture of the author philipsimbahan
    i want to have like this site if i had that money.1800banners com. i know to link build i know to post in forum i know to recruit people in my country.
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  • Profile picture of the author philipsimbahan
    20 dollars a day can make an impact to me.if i can make 20 dollars a day i would probably happy.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sandra Martinez
      how do you plan to make money if you don´t have a means to collect it?

      about the blog, etc, you can make a blogger blog. It is dangerous and you might get banned in time, but meantime you are doing something.

      depending on your country and language, you might have it relatively easy to rank for local keywords, and then you can use the blog to make articles for local businesses.

      Try weebly, it is pretty easy to do decent websites with it and it is free. You can offer them to local businesses. My kids have one each, and they love it.
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      • Profile picture of the author philipsimbahan
        Originally Posted by Sandra Martinez View Post

        how do you plan to make money if you don´t have a means to collect it?

        about the blog, etc, you can make a blogger blog. It is dangerous and you might get banned in time, but meantime you are doing something.

        depending on your country and language, you might have it relatively easy to rank for local keywords, and then you can use the blog to make articles for local businesses.

        Try weebly, it is pretty easy to do decent websites with it and it is free. You can offer them to local businesses. My kids have one each, and they love it.
        Thanks i plan to make one but for local businesses here its probably hard to get clients. I've tried it in many local business here and what did they tell to me its a waste of money. Its not like in the US and other country that need site to promote their bars and restaurant.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagalog
      Originally Posted by philipsimbahan View Post

      20 dollars a day can make an impact to me.if i can make 20 dollars a day i would probably happy.
      If you were earning $20 per day in the Philippines I think you would be happy. That is 30,000 pesos per month and that is top money over there.

      I wish you the best of luck my friend and don't give up trying!
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      • Profile picture of the author philipsimbahan
        Originally Posted by tagalog View Post

        If you were earning $20 per day in the Philippines I think you would be happy. That is 30,000 pesos per month and that is top money over there.

        I wish you the best of luck my friend and don't give up trying!
        Thanks actually 24,000 plus pesos because the current exchange is 41. If i can make that i can probably feed my son and get him to school. and pay for a doctor for myself.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennisknows
    Yea free hosting is trash... If you want to make money online but are strapped for cash, your best best is Blogger. They are somewhat lenient. Only problem is you could wake up one day and your stuff be gone....

    Its best to pay the little cash that it costs to host a site.. If you need a cheap domain, buy a .info....

    or look for special codes on sites like Godaddy or 1and1 to get domains for $1
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    • Profile picture of the author Daws0n
      Originally Posted by Dennisknows View Post

      or look for special codes on sites like Godaddy or 1and1 to get domains for $1
      I second that, $1 domain name deal is not hard to find. What all you need to do is to find some GoDaddy discount code post/thread (whatever), grab the coupon from there, and use it. If you don't have a CC, that's not a problem either, ask your bank / building society if they provide VCC (virtual credit card) and pay with it.

      If you are dedicated my friend, i bet no one can stop you, and you will reach there one day. Just don't loose hope and try to learn as much as you can grasp each day.
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      • Profile picture of the author philipsimbahan
        Originally Posted by Daws0n View Post

        I second that, $1 domain name deal is not hard to find. What all you need to do is to find some GoDaddy discount code post/thread (whatever), grab the coupon from there, and use it. If you don't have a CC, that's not a problem either, ask your bank / building society if they provide VCC (virtual credit card) and pay with it.

        If you are dedicated my friend, i bet no one can stop you, and you will reach there one day. Just don't loose hope and try to learn as much as you can grasp each day.
        thanks i tried learning seo.but building and customizing a wordpress site is hard. I want to create a site i wanted but don't know how.
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        • Profile picture of the author Daws0n
          Originally Posted by philipsimbahan View Post

          thanks i tried learning seo.but building and customizing a wordpress site is hard. I want to create a site i wanted but don't know how.
          You will learn as the time passes by. There is no one who can learn all in one day.
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          • Profile picture of the author philipsimbahan
            Originally Posted by Daws0n View Post

            You will learn as the time passes by. There is no one who can learn all in one day.
            thanks. i know that. that my biggest weakness is english writing. my english s****. and i don't have money to outsource it.
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        • Profile picture of the author Greg guitar
          Originally Posted by philipsimbahan View Post

          thanks i tried learning seo.but building and customizing a wordpress site is hard. I want to create a site i wanted but don't know how.
          Like others have said, you really need a change of attitude. I sympathize, being a bit technophobic myself, but when you think something is hard, your brain finds a way to make that true; what is often called a "self fulfilling prophesy.

          You need to tell yourself it's easy; all you need is to take the time, have a positive attitude and dig in.

          The objective reality is the creating wordpress sites and customizing them is famously easy.

          My suggestion (this will work; please don't dismiss it), is to get a Hostgator account, then call them up and have them walk you through setting up wordpress. For the $8 a month or whatever, they will help you as much as you need; you can end up getting technical help for pennies per hour.

          You can also go to youtube and start typing in phrases like "how to create a wordpress site", "how to customize a wordpress site", etc.

          Pretty soon you will be an expert. I guarantee that if you dedicate yourself, you will be able to create sites in a week; then you will be the expert helping someone who posts a thread like this.

          Put something like this on your computer:

          I WILL BE A WORDPRESS EXPERT BY FEBRUARY: I CAN DO IT!!!
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          • Profile picture of the author philipsimbahan
            Originally Posted by Greg guitar View Post

            Like others have said, you really need a change of attitude. I sympathize, being a bit technophobic myself, but when you think something is hard, your brain finds a way to make that true; what is often called a "self fulfilling prophesy.

            You need to tell yourself it's easy; all you need is to take the time, have a positive attitude and dig in.

            The objective reality is the creating wordpress sites and customizing them is famously easy.

            My suggestion (this will work; please don't dismiss it), is to get a Hostgator account, then call them up and have them walk you through setting up wordpress. For the $8 a month or whatever, they will help you as much as you need; you can end up getting technical help for pennies per hour.

            You can also go to youtube and start typing in phrases like "how to create a wordpress site", "how to customize a wordpress site", etc.

            Pretty soon you will be an expert. I guarantee that if you dedicate yourself, you will be able to create sites in a week; then you will be the expert helping someone who posts a thread like this.

            Put something like this on your computer:

            I WILL BE A WORDPRESS EXPERT BY FEBRUARY: I CAN DO IT!!!
            I know for my sons future i will never fail. Thanks all you guys for suggestions. And i am really sorry if your eyes get hurt in my english writing.
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            • Profile picture of the author Greg guitar
              Originally Posted by philipsimbahan View Post

              I know for my sons future i will never fail. Thanks all you guys for suggestions. And i am really sorry if your eyes get hurt in my english writing.
              No worries; we all have our obstacles. The important thing I hope you take away from this thread is that the biggest and worst of them are internal; they aren't imposed from outside yourself.

              The good news is that it means all you need to do is internalize the encouragement you received here, and things you thought were hard will be easy.

              A basic part of the learning process that happens with most things (certainly with mastering wordpress) is the excitement of realizing that what seemed hard at first was actually surprisingly easy, once you actually get into it.

              Good luck in all your endeavers, and no worries about my eyes; nobody forced me to read your post (and actually, I only skimmed it to avoid the strain).
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              • Profile picture of the author philipsimbahan
                Originally Posted by Greg guitar View Post

                No worries; we all have our obstacles. The important thing I hope you take away from this thread is that the biggest and worst of them are internal; they aren't imposed from outside yourself.

                The good news is that it means all you need to do is internalize the encouragement you received here, and things you thought were hard will be easy.

                A basic part of the learning process that happens with most things (certainly with mastering wordpress) is the excitement of realizing that what seemed hard at first was actually surprisingly easy, once you actually get into it.

                Good luck in all your endeavers, and no worries about my eyes; nobody forced me to read your post (and actually, I only skimmed it to avoid the strain).
                Hahaha after i read it my post again my eyes get hurt too.
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    I also tried CPA but never accepts me because of my country.
    What country do you live in? There are CPA networks which accept publishers from all countries, such as Peerfly.
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    • Profile picture of the author philipsimbahan
      Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

      What country do you live in? There are CPA networks which accept publishers from all countries, such as Peerfly.
      from the philippines. ive tried it also but they say my site is free and new so not get accepted but i will try again.
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  • Profile picture of the author Corey Geer
    Free hosting is trash... you don't say...?

    You say you currently don't have a skill, so why not learn one? Head on over to W3Schools Online Web Tutorials and learn CSS/HTML. That should give you a basic fundamental of web development. Design is entirely different and will require some time practicing on Photoshop or whatever photo editing software you prefer.

    You can write for cheap over at iWriter since your English isn't that great and most of the people there just want filler content anyways rather than quality. Hence why they're only paying their writers $2.50 to $5 per article.

    You can also frequent the Wanting To Hire section to see if there's something you can do.

    You can pawn off some of your personal items that you don't actually need.

    You can offer to shovel driveways, mow yards or do some handywork around the house to random people. Obviously the services you can offer will vary on the location you live in.

    When I hear someone say "I have absolutely no skills and don't know how to do anything" or anything similar to that, it screams laziness to me and a lack of motivation.

    I used to be there, I know how it is. You're still waiting on that magical lamp to appear that prints money on command, but I waited and guess what? It never came.

    Learn a skill or do with what you currently have and start making money off of it.

    Corey
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    • Profile picture of the author cooler1
      What is the name of free hosting you were using?

      Some of the best free hosting platforms are Byethost, Freehostia, 000WebHost.
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    • Profile picture of the author philipsimbahan
      Originally Posted by Corey Geer View Post

      Free hosting is trash... you don't say...?

      You say you currently don't have a skill, so why not learn one? Head on over to W3Schools Online Web Tutorials and learn CSS/HTML. That should give you a basic fundamental of web development. Design is entirely different and will require some time practicing on Photoshop or whatever photo editing software you prefer.

      You can write for cheap over at iWriter since your English isn't that great and most of the people there just want filler content anyways rather than quality. Hence why they're only paying their writers $2.50 to $5 per article.

      You can also frequent the Wanting To Hire section to see if there's something you can do.

      You can pawn off some of your personal items that you don't actually need.

      You can offer to shovel driveways, mow yards or do some handywork around the house to random people. Obviously the services you can offer will vary on the location you live in.

      When I hear someone say "I have absolutely no skills and don't know how to do anything" or anything similar to that, it screams laziness to me and a lack of motivation.

      I used to be there, I know how it is. You're still waiting on that magical lamp to appear that prints money on command, but I waited and guess what? It never came.

      Learn a skill or do with what you currently have and start making money off of it.

      Corey
      i beg to disagree. i don't want a magical lamp or anything that said. if i am lazy i probably not even here. As i said in earlier post. i can't do handy work anymore. and i will not say the reason because i don't want to be banned. first thing first i now learning a bit. my first thing i need to learn is english that's why i am here talking to you in english eventhough iam not good with it.but thanks any way for your reccomendation in iwriter.
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      • Profile picture of the author Corey Geer
        Originally Posted by philipsimbahan View Post

        i beg to disagree. i don't want a magical lamp or anything that said. if i am lazy i probably not even here. As i said in earlier post. i can't do handy work anymore. and i will not say the reason because i don't want to be banned. first thing first i now learning a bit. my first thing i need to learn is english that's why i am here talking to you in english eventhough iam not good with it.but thanks any way for your reccomendation in iwriter.
        I would highly recommend touching up on English before going to even iWriter, because while they do want filler content, the cheap clientele can tend to be a bit picky.

        I'm just giving suggestions since you said you have no skills and your original post made it sound like you weren't willing to learn anything and you were just looking for handouts.

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      • Profile picture of the author Sandra Martinez
        Originally Posted by philipsimbahan View Post

        i beg to disagree. i don't want a magical lamp or anything that said. if i am lazy i probably not even here. As i said in earlier post. i can't do handy work anymore. and i will not say the reason because i don't want to be banned. first thing first i now learning a bit. my first thing i need to learn is english that's why i am here talking to you in english eventhough iam not good with it.
        The main problem that I see here is that you are looking so hard at your limitations that you close your own doors.

        Look, you need to sell something in order to make money. And you need a way to collect the money.

        Put your effort there. Nobody can do that for you, nobody knows you as you do.

        So what are you really trying to do with this thread? Offer service? what service? How will you collect the money?
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        • Profile picture of the author philipsimbahan
          Originally Posted by Sandra Martinez View Post

          The main problem that I see here is that you are looking so hard at your limitations that you close your own doors.

          Look, you need to sell something in order to make money. And you need a way to collect the money.

          Put your effort there. Nobody can do that for you, nobody knows you as you do.

          So what are you really trying to do with this thread? Offer service? what service? How will you collect the money?
          i am trying to figuring out as well for months. i like to try creating a facebook page or free site that give incentives that complets CPA offers. But its damn hard to be accepted.like free ebooks but i don't think my country wants free ebook thay wanted money.
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          • Profile picture of the author Sandra Martinez
            Originally Posted by philipsimbahan View Post

            i am trying to figuring out as well for months. i like to try creating a facebook page or free site that give incentives that complets CPA offers. But its damn hard to be accepted.like free ebooks but i don't think my country wants free ebook thay wanted money.
            Some CPA offers are legit, but most of the are scammy. I don´t like them one bit.

            Ok, how about going to the other side? what is the single thing you would spend all your time doing and learning about if you did not need money?
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            • Profile picture of the author philipsimbahan
              Originally Posted by Sandra Martinez View Post

              Some CPA offers are legit, but most of the are scammy. I don´t like them one bit.

              Ok, how about going to the other side? what is the single thing you would spend all your time doing and learning about if you did not need money?
              1 learn to write good english
              2 learn to creating custom wordpress site
              3. Seo
              4. promote my site to my local country by forums
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              • Profile picture of the author sorinnunca
                Your best bet for now would be to get hired as a VA.
                You can get $300-$400 (or more, I'm not up to date on the prices) and you'll also learn some useful skills (people looking for cheap VA's are looking to train them too).

                So : find a way to get the $ over to you -> Get hired as a VA.
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                • Profile picture of the author philipsimbahan
                  Originally Posted by sorinnunca View Post

                  Your best bet for now would be to get hired as a VA.
                  You can get $300-$400 (or more, I'm not up to date on the prices) and you'll also learn some useful skills (people looking for cheap VA's are looking to train them too).

                  So : find a way to get the $ over to you -> Get hired as a VA.
                  they can train me to ba a VA eventhough i have poor english skill right now. But i am eager to develop my english skill. I tried before transcribing but they don't pay me.
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              • Profile picture of the author Sandra Martinez
                Originally Posted by philipsimbahan View Post

                1 learn to write good english
                2 learn to creating custom wordpress site
                3. Seo
                4. promote my site to my local country by forums
                Really? I mean... really?

                Those things do not feel like passions, more like things you think you need to learn to make things happen.

                1. I do understand a passion for learning a language, not sure that is where you are going though. If you want to learn good English, there is one way (it applies to locals and foreigners)... read all day long and write all day long.

                2. you want to offer this as a service or for yourself? For most WP sites you just need to upload a logo and you are ready to go. Competition is very hard in this niche if you want to do custom themes, I wouldn´t waste my time, but it is just me.

                3. SEO... there is no magic here (unless you want to go black hat), just get links to your page for your keywords as anchor text from reputable places with high pr. And get as many links as you can to those places that link to yours.

                4. and what is your site about?
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                • Profile picture of the author philipsimbahan
                  Originally Posted by Sandra Martinez View Post

                  Really? I mean... really?

                  Those things do not feel like passions, more like things you think you need to learn to make things happen.

                  1. I do understand a passion for learning a language, not sure that is where you are going though. If you want to learn good English, there is one way (it applies to locals and foreigners)... read all day long and write all day long.

                  2. you want to offer this as a service or for yourself? For most WP sites you just need to upload a logo and you are ready to go. Competition is very hard in this niche if you want to do custom themes, I wouldn´t waste my time, but it is just me.

                  3. SEO... there is no magic here (unless you want to go black hat), just get links to your page for your keywords as anchor text from reputable places with high pr. And get as many links as you can to those places that link to yours.

                  4. and what is your site about?
                  ive created two site a
                  1.local celebrity faceoff vote. because my country loves celebrity and they will fight for their idol.
                  2.contest website like baby picture website contest with voting also.because many of us were proud of our son and daughters.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Sandra Martinez
                    Originally Posted by philipsimbahan View Post

                    ive created two site a
                    1.local celebrity faceoff vote. because my country loves celebrity and they will fight for their idol.
                    2.contest website like baby picture website contest with voting also.because many of us were proud of our son and daughters.
                    they look like potentially able to move a lot of traffic, a free hosting account will not work for long.

                    And they seem to be targeting local traffic. Why do you want to learn English?

                    What language are you using? Talagog?

                    For the first one I smell trouble. A lot of traffic, hard to monetize.

                    The second is more promising. You can eventually sell ad space to photographers, get cpa related with baby´s magazines or diapers, or make connections with agencies for baby models. If you can place one baby in an agency, your site will be flooded by baby pictures.
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                    • Profile picture of the author philipsimbahan
                      Originally Posted by Sandra Martinez View Post

                      they look like potentially able to move a lot of traffic, a free hosting account will not work for long.

                      And they seem to be targeting local traffic. Why do you want to learn English?

                      What language are you using? Talagog?

                      For the first one I smell trouble. A lot of traffic, hard to monetize.

                      The second is more promising. You can eventually sell ad space to photographers, get cpa related with baby´s magazines or diapers, or make connections with agencies for baby models. If you can place one baby in an agency, your site will be flooded by baby pictures.
                      its actually i just wanted to sell ad space to my site.
                      english is the global language in the web right?thats why i want to learn english
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                      • Profile picture of the author Sandra Martinez
                        Originally Posted by philipsimbahan View Post

                        its actually i just wanted to sell ad space to my site.
                        english is the global language in the web right?thats why i want to learn english
                        Ok, then do what you have to do to rank your site (in your language).

                        English... yes and no. If you think about the "official" language, it is English. If you think about the most widespread, it is Spanish (this I heard). If you think in terms of people talking it, it is Chinese.

                        Actually the international power center is moving fast from the English speaking countries to China.
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                        • Profile picture of the author philipsimbahan
                          Originally Posted by Sandra Martinez View Post

                          Ok, then do what you have to do to rank your site (in your language).
                          what do you mean in my language?i will write on my site in tagalog?
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                          • Profile picture of the author Sandra Martinez
                            Originally Posted by philipsimbahan View Post

                            what do you mean in my language?i will write on my site in tagalog?
                            why not? I thought you were targeting people locally for the baby contests... why not in your language? that resolves the language barrier, and it allows you to target the market better.

                            It is YOUR language, people talk it. Why not use it?

                            You have a great advantage there, how many people who do marketing knows tagalog and can compete with you in that market?
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                            • Profile picture of the author philipsimbahan
                              Originally Posted by Sandra Martinez View Post

                              why not? I thought you were targeting people locally for the baby contests... why not in your language? that resolves the language barrier, and it allows you to target the market better.

                              It is YOUR language, people talk it. Why not use it?

                              You have a great advantage there, how many people who do marketing knows tagalog and can compete with you in that market?
                              but how can i monetize it?how can i give winners to my baby contest site without advertisers?
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                              • Profile picture of the author Sandra Martinez
                                Originally Posted by philipsimbahan View Post

                                but how can i monetize it?how can i give winners to my baby contest site without advertisers?
                                you give the winner a special place on first page on the site for a month to start.

                                Or you can transform the image in watercolor using gimp (I think it can be done, I don´t use gimp, in fireworks you can do it) and give it as a present. If the parents want, you send them the print (they pay for it).

                                Or you can find a local photographer willing to make a special session for free in exchange for advertising. You take the people to the photographer, and you record everything (or take pictures), make a lot of noise about it. Publish the result in your site and youtube.

                                Or you can make a slide show with the pictures of the winner and publish it in youtube with a nice music, saying that they won the award.

                                c´mon... you have to do your job... you can´t be an entrepreneur and only see problems. Look for solutions!!
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                                • Profile picture of the author philipsimbahan
                                  Originally Posted by Sandra Martinez View Post

                                  you give the winner a special place on first page on the site for a month to start.

                                  Or you can transform the image in watercolor using gimp (I think it can be done, I don´t use gimp, in fireworks you can do it) and give it as a present. If the parents want, you send them the print (they pay for it).

                                  Or you can find a local photographer willing to make a special session for free in exchange for advertising. You take the people to the photographer, and you record everything (or take pictures), make a lot of noise about it. Publish the result in your site and youtube.

                                  Or you can make a slide show with the pictures of the winner and publish it in youtube with a nice music, saying that they won the award.

                                  c´mon... you have to do your job... you can´t be an entrepreneur and only see problems. Look for solutions!!
                                  a lot of thanks. But how can i make that custom website like that?i don't know how to make a site like that that with registration is by facebook. and they can upload their photos, and see all my members. ill research it if i can find some scripts like that.
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                                  • Profile picture of the author Sandra Martinez
                                    Originally Posted by philipsimbahan View Post

                                    a lot of thanks. But how can i make that custom website like that?i don't know how to make a site like that that with registration is by facebook. and they can upload their photos, and see all my members. ill research it if i can find some scripts like that.
                                    wait! you said you had a site... now you don´t? I´m getting confused...

                                    you can do it with joomla. It comes with almost all these features by default.
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                                    • Profile picture of the author philipsimbahan
                                      Originally Posted by Sandra Martinez View Post

                                      wait! you said you had a site... now you don´t? I´m getting confused...

                                      you can do it with joomla. It comes with almost all these features by default.
                                      i had a site but its not finished yet because its come with free hosting and looks unprofessional.in other words a crap site.
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                                      • Profile picture of the author Sandra Martinez
                                        Originally Posted by philipsimbahan View Post

                                        i had a site but its not finished yet because its come with free hosting and looks unprofessional.in other words a crap site.
                                        it has to look unprofessional, you are not a professional... it doesn´t really matter if you add other stuff to the mix. It has to look like you care.

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                                        ok... get a blogger account, they look good enough.

                                        get a free email account with google.

                                        make people send you the pictures by email and post them yourself.

                                        if you can´t post in blogger the pictures, use photobucket and pick them up from there.

                                        get a lady to add a female touch.

                                        make a logo with gimp.

                                        if you don´t know how, go to youtube and learn.


                                        but you know what? if you don´t change the attitude, you will hit the bump again soon, and not always will be someone willing to invest their time to take you out.
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                                        • Profile picture of the author philipsimbahan
                                          Originally Posted by Sandra Martinez View Post

                                          it has to look unprofessional, you are not a professional... it doesn´t really matter if you add other stuff to the mix. It has to look like you care.

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                                          ok... get a blogger account, they look good enough.

                                          get a free email account with google.

                                          make people send you the pictures by email and post them yourself.

                                          if you can´t post in blogger the pictures, use photobucket and pick them up from there.

                                          get a lady to add a female touch.

                                          make a logo with gimp.

                                          if you don´t know how, go to youtube and learn.


                                          but you know what? if you don´t change the attitude, you will hit the bump again soon, and not always will be someone willing to invest their time to take you out.
                                          Thank you so much i learned a lot from you
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                                    • Profile picture of the author tantivy
                                      hey, philipsimbahan, I think you have what it takes to be successful in this business. Your english is not that bad, just polish it by read and writing everyday. Another thing is that you talk about scripts, customing wp; if you think this way you are more intelligent than you think. Not many IMers think this way.

                                      Another thing is that the goals you have set for yourself takes time to bring result. Just plod on.
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                              • Profile picture of the author Kay King
                                I'm beginning to wonder if you are in prison or something. You are full what you can't do, don't know and don't have. You joined in August, not October, and your posts are pretty much the same.

                                You ask a question and then post why you can't do what you asked about. You have no way to be paid - how do you expect to earn money? When others offer advice, you have reasons that nothing will work for you. If you can't do anything - how do you expect to earn money?

                                You seem to give up any time something seems "hard" yet those "hard things" you list are easy to learn and do. There are free tutorials online for wordpress and free hosting and site building - why aren't you using them to educate yourself? I don't get it.

                                You say you tried Fiverr and got no orders - what were you selling? How were you to be paid? You said you have a business selling knives - and then didn't mention it again. Do you have a business or not?

                                I know this sounds rude and I apologize for that. You have to adjust your thinking before you can find an online method that will work for you. Instead of listing everything you can't do - find ONE thing you can do...and do it.

                                kay
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                                • Profile picture of the author philipsimbahan
                                  Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

                                  I'm beginning to wonder if you are in prison or something. You are full what you can't do, don't know and don't have. You joined in August, not October, and your posts are pretty much the same.

                                  You ask a question and then post why you can't do what you asked about. You have no way to be paid - how do you expect to earn money? When others offer advice, you have reasons that nothing will work for you. If you can't do anything - how do you expect to earn money?

                                  You seem to give up any time something seems "hard" yet those "hard things" you list are easy to learn and do. There are free tutorials online for wordpress and free hosting and site building - why aren't you using them to educate yourself? I don't get it.

                                  You say you tried Fiverr and got no orders - what were you selling? How were you to be paid? You said you have a business selling knives - and then didn't mention it again. Do you have a business or not?

                                  I know this sounds rude and I apologize for that. You have to adjust your thinking before you can find an online method that will work for you. Instead of listing everything you can't do - find ONE thing you can do...and do it.

                                  kay
                                  its ok with me if you don't get it.
                                  i sell english to tagalog translation.
                                  selling knives is our family business but it seems its illegal and exporting knives to other country is expensive so i don't tell them anymore. I don't want to abide law.its really hard if you only graduated grade school.
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                                  • Profile picture of the author Greg guitar
                                    Originally Posted by philipsimbahan View Post

                                    its ok with me if you don't get it.
                                    i sell english to tagalog translation.
                                    selling knives is our family business but it seems its illegal and exporting knives to other country is expensive so i don't tell them anymore. I don't want to abide law.its really hard if you only graduated grade school.
                                    If you sell translations, who does the translating? If it's you, I doubt you're doing your market any favors. Does it not makes sense to you that your translations will be inaccurate if you don't have a good command of the language you're translating from?
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                                    • Profile picture of the author philipsimbahan
                                      Originally Posted by Greg guitar View Post

                                      If you sell translations, who does the translating? If it's you, I doubt you're doing your market any favors. Does it not makes sense to you that your translations will be inaccurate if you don't have a good command of the language you're translating from?
                                      i can't write proper english but i can understand english so understanding and translating in my filipino language is easy for me.
                                      If not i will not reply to you because it means i probably don't understand what are you talking. And don't worry about that fiverr i never get client after all.
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                                    • Profile picture of the author Sandra Martinez
                                      Originally Posted by Greg guitar View Post

                                      If you sell translations, who does the translating? If it's you, I doubt you're doing your market any favors. Does it not makes sense to you that your translations will be inaccurate if you don't have a good command of the language you're translating from?
                                      when you do translations, you need to be fluent in the first language and proficient in the second.

                                      if his Tagalog is excellent and his English good enough, he still can translate most of the material on the web. Remember that the bulk is done for 6th grade reading level.
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                            • Profile picture of the author tagalog
                              Originally Posted by Sandra Martinez View Post

                              why not? I thought you were targeting people locally for the baby contests... why not in your language? that resolves the language barrier, and it allows you to target the market better.

                              It is YOUR language, people talk it. Why not use it?

                              You have a great advantage there, how many people who do marketing knows tagalog and can compete with you in that market?
                              I spend a lot of time in the Philippines and and also use the Internet there.

                              One thing is very apparant. Web sites are in English with small amounts of Tagalog. Writing purely in Tagalog only addresses a part of the Philippines and can be seen as uneducated. Besides, there are ample English to Tagalog translation programs that can be put on a site free of charge.

                              What is generally not known is that although Tagalog is the official language, it is only written and understood by a percentage of the population. The majority of Filipinos use only their dialect and the English taught in every school. Talk Tagalog to them and they struggle to understand.

                              The bottom line is that if you are in business in the Philippines, you will find it difficult if you cannot read English.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Alan Ashwood
                        Originally Posted by philipsimbahan View Post

                        its actually i just wanted to sell ad space to my site.
                        english is the global language in the web right?thats why i want to learn english
                        I find this confusing . . .

                        You keep saying you want to improve your English, then say you're targetting a local market. You'd be better of thinking globally if you want to use English; or local language for local market.

                        You don't seem focussed on what you're actually marketing. You need to decide this before you worry about SEO, website design and so on.

                        You say you can't work, don't have any skills, etc. You're also evasive about why you can't do anything, or why you don't have at least, a Paypal account.

                        Every time I've seen a helpful reply, you response always contains a hidden "but". But I can't do this, can't finance that, can't sweep a drive; mow a lawn etc.

                        I actually run ongoing free training for newbies who have little or no money to start, but they have to have the willingness to learn, AND WORK.

                        Based on what I've read here, I would never accept you on one of my courses. I think you want it handed to you on a plate.

                        Out of interest, HOW OLD ARE YOU - REALLY?
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                        • Profile picture of the author philipsimbahan
                          Originally Posted by Alan Ashwood View Post

                          I find this confusing . . .

                          You keep saying you want to improve your English, then say you're targetting a local market. You'd be better of thinking globally if you want to use English; or local language for local market.

                          You don't seem focussed on what you're actually marketing. You need to decide this before you worry about SEO, website design and so on.

                          You say you can't work, don't have any skills, etc. You're also evasive about why you can't do anything, or why you don't have at least, a Paypal account.

                          Every time I've seen a helpful reply, you response always contains a hidden "but". But I can't do this, can't finance that, can't sweep a drive; mow a lawn etc.

                          I actually run ongoing free training for newbies who have little or no money to start, but they have to have the willingness to learn, AND WORK.

                          Based on what I've read here, I would never accept you on one of my courses. I think you want it handed to you on a plate.

                          Out of interest, HOW OLD ARE YOU - REALLY?
                          because i thought i need an english site eventhough i am targetting only my country. Because many sites ive seen owned by my fellow country is an english site. Yes all the physical work i can't do now. go to healthboard and see why.
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                          • Profile picture of the author Alan Ashwood
                            Originally Posted by philipsimbahan View Post

                            because i thought i need an english site eventhough i am targetting only my country. Because many sites ive seen owned by my fellow country is an english site. Yes all the physical work i can't do now. go to healthboard and see why.
                            Sorry, but I still think you're hiding something.

                            You keep 'hinting' that ill health holds you back. That won't do!

                            I have a very successful friend who has built a great blog and 5 complimentary sites in IM here in England. Why is that so remarkable?

                            1. He's paraplegic, and has no physical use of his limbs (but his brain still works). Added to that, he cares for his very elderly mother, who also has dementia. He does the direction; she does the physical.

                            2. I, myself have had 3 heart attacks, and am operating on two fifths of my ticker. I get exhausted almost every couple of hours, and have to rest. It still doesn't stop me getting up off my a**e (English) a** (American), and making the effort to do something constructive.

                            I have benefitted a lot by advice and help from the Warriors here; but I take that advice and do something with it. I don't expect to be cosseted; and I don't expect others to do the work for me.

                            Sure, it's tough sometimes, and the hurdles seem insurmountable. But if you don't take some sort of action, focussed action; you will be exactly where you are now.

                            Greg Guitar and Sandra Martinez have made a lot of effort here to motivate and support you, with sound helpful advice. Your replies often reject this help with a 'but' (I can't) reply.

                            Sooner or later they will stop helping.

                            I suggest you sit back and read through every reply you've received here, taking careful notes.

                            With a more positive attitude, you will discover some constructive, helpful advice; and even training which can set you on course for success.

                            Go on, give it a try.
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                            • Profile picture of the author seasoned
                              Originally Posted by Alan Ashwood View Post

                              Sorry, but I still think you're hiding something.

                              You keep 'hinting' that ill health holds you back. That won't do!

                              I have a very successful friend who has built a great blog and 5 complimentary sites in IM here in England. Why is that so remarkable?

                              1. He's paraplegic, and has no physical use of his limbs (but his brain still works). Added to that, he cares for his very elderly mother, who also has dementia. He does the direction; she does the physical.
                              Most dementia is progressive. A time will come when she can't, or won't, follow his direction.

                              2. I, myself have had 3 heart attacks, and am operating on two fifths of my ticker. I get exhausted almost every couple of hours, and have to rest. It still doesn't stop me getting up off my a**e (English) a** (American), and making the effort to do something constructive.
                              WOW! I had open heart surgery, and my heart was reduced to maybe 1/5th efficiency for a few weeks, so I know what you feel like. I LITERALLY got winded just crossing my 50' house.

                              WOW, you translate cuss words!

                              Steve
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                            • Profile picture of the author philipsimbahan
                              Originally Posted by Alan Ashwood View Post

                              Sorry, but I still think you're hiding something.

                              You keep 'hinting' that ill health holds you back. That won't do!

                              I have a very successful friend who has built a great blog and 5 complimentary sites in IM here in England. Why is that so remarkable?

                              1. He's paraplegic, and has no physical use of his limbs (but his brain still works). Added to that, he cares for his very elderly mother, who also has dementia. He does the direction; she does the physical.

                              2. I, myself have had 3 heart attacks, and am operating on two fifths of my ticker. I get exhausted almost every couple of hours, and have to rest. It still doesn't stop me getting up off my a**e (English) a** (American), and making the effort to do something constructive.

                              I have benefitted a lot by advice and help from the Warriors here; but I take that advice and do something with it. I don't expect to be cosseted; and I don't expect others to do the work for me.

                              Sure, it's tough sometimes, and the hurdles seem insurmountable. But if you don't take some sort of action, focussed action; you will be exactly where you are now.

                              Greg Guitar and Sandra Martinez have made a lot of effort here to motivate and support you, with sound helpful advice. Your replies often reject this help with a 'but' (I can't) reply.

                              Sooner or later they will stop helping.

                              I suggest you sit back and read through every reply you've received here, taking careful notes.

                              With a more positive attitude, you will discover some constructive, helpful advice; and even training which can set you on course for success.

                              Go on, give it a try.
                              Thank you. Yes i've been a negative thinker because of my health and because i am only graduated in elementary level.

                              And its been the hurdle for me but because so many here advice me that i can make it. Now i know i will make it.
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                            • Profile picture of the author Greg guitar
                              Originally Posted by Alan Ashwood View Post

                              Sorry, but I still think you're hiding something.

                              You keep 'hinting' that ill health holds you back. That won't do!

                              I have a very successful friend who has built a great blog and 5 complimentary sites in IM here in England. Why is that so remarkable?

                              1. He's paraplegic, and has no physical use of his limbs (but his brain still works). Added to that, he cares for his very elderly mother, who also has dementia. He does the direction; she does the physical.

                              2. I, myself have had 3 heart attacks, and am operating on two fifths of my ticker. I get exhausted almost every couple of hours, and have to rest. It still doesn't stop me getting up off my a**e (English) a** (American), and making the effort to do something constructive.

                              I have benefitted a lot by advice and help from the Warriors here; but I take that advice and do something with it. I don't expect to be cosseted; and I don't expect others to do the work for me.

                              Sure, it's tough sometimes, and the hurdles seem insurmountable. But if you don't take some sort of action, focussed action; you will be exactly where you are now.

                              Greg Guitar and Sandra Martinez have made a lot of effort here to motivate and support you, with sound helpful advice. Your replies often reject this help with a 'but' (I can't) reply.

                              Sooner or later they will stop helping.

                              I suggest you sit back and read through every reply you've received here, taking careful notes.

                              With a more positive attitude, you will discover some constructive, helpful advice; and even training which can set you on course for success.

                              Go on, give it a try.
                              Thanks for the appreciation for myself and Sandra; others including you deserve the same.

                              I really enjoyed this post and was going to respond anyway, before I saw my name because you really gave me a chuckle with the partially censored lesson in the differences between English and American idioms for the "tops of one's legs".

                              On a more serious note, I definitely second your "no excuses" pep talk. The op seems like a nice person and my heart goes out to him, but it pains me to hear so many objections.

                              I don't take it personally; it pains me because I understand what he's up against; there's a big part of me that looks for excuses too, and I'd be a hypocrite to blame him for it.

                              One thing I know though; the adage "you can make money or excuses, but you can't make both", is quite accurate. So I use accountability buddies, personal rules (new this year), and whatever else I can; encouragement from people I've met here, etc.

                              Anyway, I hope we all have our best year starting today! (I sometimes get like this after a glass or two)
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  • Profile picture of the author philipsimbahan
    cluhost.info because it has an auto install script. i tried 000webhost but its hard to install it properly.
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  • Profile picture of the author robestrong
    Originally Posted by philipsimbahan View Post

    Because i don't have a paypal or a credit card
    I never graduated in grade school that's why i am not that good in english. Yes probably you will tell me to get a job but i can't anymore.
    No skill at all nada.
    in my local country
    Daaaaaam* you've got it bad. How can you get paid? PayPal is close to the bread and butter of IM. Based on that you can decide how limited your options are.
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  • Profile picture of the author MatthewWoodward
    I just moved my hosting from a cheap shared host to WordPress Hosting and Managed WordPress Hosting from WP Engine and I have been seriously impressed so far!

    Blog now loads in 0.5 seconds Pingdom Tools
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  • Profile picture of the author DonnyBoy
    Money only come by Investing Money... Free websites always sucks... So I would advise here to invest some cash by purchasing a domain so that you don't have to worry about anything... To buy affordable and good domains, I would recommend Domain Names | The World's Largest Domain Name Registrar - GoDaddy.com or Cheap Domain Names Registration, Domain Transfer, SSL Certificates, Free DNS, Privacy Protection • Namecheap.com ..... Best of luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    Originally Posted by philipsimbahan View Post

    I really wanted to make money online but i can't because i don't have the skills to make even a custom site.
    No one was born with this skill online. I sure wasn't but you learn as you go along. If you go with the mindset that you do want to know how to create your own custom site, then you will. Sure it takes time but the right attitude and one day you can become an expert.

    Originally Posted by philipsimbahan View Post

    I really wanted but i don't know how. No skill at all nada.
    Your thinking is not right. You need to start thinking positive and tell yourself that you can instead of I can't.

    Originally Posted by philipsimbahan View Post

    But i am not losing hope i know i can make it.
    There you go. That is the first positive thing I heard from you. The old saying is true.

    "If you believe you can or can't, you are probably right."

    If others are doing really well online, so can you.
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    • Profile picture of the author jakejoh10
      Don't give up.

      I started with no knowledge of how to make a website or HTML; or any internet marketing knowledge for that matter. And obviously most people can say the same.

      The point is, everyone starts somewhere. The great part about internet marketing is that there are places, like the Warrior Forum, where you can learn and grow.

      As for free hosting, yes it is unreliable. I am a college student and struggling for money (doing a bit better now), so I use a free hosing service at 000webhost.com.

      So far, it has been pretty solid. That can be a place to start.

      I really wish you the best; as I can tell that you are sincere and doing this for the right reasons.

      Jake
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    If you join a CPA network, how do you intend to get paid as you say that you've got no Paypal account or CC. Do you have a bank account? Doesn't your bank supply you with a debit card as that can be used to make online purchases?
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    • Profile picture of the author philipsimbahan
      Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

      If you join a CPA network, how do you intend to get paid as you say that you've got no Paypal account or CC. Do you have a bank account? Doesn't your bank supply you with a debit card as that can be used to make online purchases?
      thats also my reason i can't go with cpa
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  • Profile picture of the author mikeac
    Never ever get free hosting. More then likely the server is in someone's garage or bedroom, and you can forget about your sites being secure and you can throw support out the window.
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  • Profile picture of the author zoritey87
    You tried 000 web host ain't you? In my opinion is a good hosting but it has some problems as all hostings do, don't desperate man! keep cool and forget this deal there's no need to complicate if you really want to make money, sit down close the door focus and write things you can do, then things that can sell and start slow but sure! You will make money man!
    All the best.
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  • Profile picture of the author evilsaigon
    Heys philipsimbahan, for your information, you do NOT need to get a credit card to receive payments in paypal! Yes, it will prompt you to key in your card details, but you can just cancel and skip that process. That's what I did when I applied for Paypal without a credit/debit card, and I still could receive payments (and I started out from PTCs btw).

    As for a decent web host, you can try using 3owl. Yes, it's a free web host, and probably not the best service you can find as it does have miscellaneous problems at times. However I've personally been using it for months now and it's probably the most stable free web host you can find. Barely 1 or 2 downtimes through 5 months of usage.

    Anyways, your English sounds decent enough, so I don't think you need to worry too much about brushing up on it. Focus on your plan now; I think it is quite solid enough from what you stated.

    Just transfer your site to 3owl, register for paypal again, and get cracking on your 2 popularity sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author Vlad Romanov
    This is a business and should be treated as such, meaning that you need to invest money in order to make money. That being said the startup costs are extremely low, so I really can't feel bad for you if you don't have 10$ to spend on proper hosting.
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  • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
    The free websites and hosting is just sub-domains .. right?

    If you are serious about wanting to make it online I will set up a free subdomain word press blog on my hosting and send you the wp admin information. I don't have time to do any coaching at the moment but would answer some of your questions if needed.

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    • Profile picture of the author Greg guitar
      Originally Posted by Troy_Phillips View Post

      The free websites and hosting is just sub-domains .. right?

      If you are serious about wanting to make it online I will set up a free subdomain word press blog on my hosting and send you the wp admin information. I don't have time to do any coaching at the moment but would answer some of your questions if needed.

      Troy
      This type of post is part of what makes me grateful to be part of this community; it isn't just about money, but people offering others a helping hand. Kudos for reaching out Troy, and of course, others like notably, Sandra, who did so in their own way!
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  • Profile picture of the author Elle P
    Free hosting does have its disadvantages (and many of them!). It's wise to just stay far, far away from free hosting providers and save yourself the migraine that is sure to come. I've learned this the hard way too.

    Don't beat yourself too much. Just find something you're good at and stick with it until you have enough funds to pay for hosting. That's what I did. I became a freelance writer to get my internet business running and I am now starting my journey as an internet entrepreneur. It's a long way to go but I'll get there.

    Live and learn, buddy.

    We can do it
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  • Profile picture of the author nicolasmd2112
    I know how you feel, i was in this exact same spot. I eventually overcame this barrier by starting a blog myself! Blogger is a good place to start!
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  • Profile picture of the author DJL
    Have you looked at this thread?
    Manila Boys
    It might be right up your alley.
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  • Profile picture of the author Greg guitar
    I only quickly skimmed the thread so apologies to others if this has been said, but perhaps it bears repeating since the op so far hasn't changed it:

    The first post hurt my eyes. If you want help, ask in a way that doesn't cause pain to those who might be willing to help you. My suggestion to you is to go back and edit your post, and put some white space in among that horrible solid block of text.

    You might think I'm just complaining, but if you make a habit of writing no more than 2-4 lines on average before making a new paragraph, other members will start off predisposed to help you, instead of annoyed because you expect them to strain their eyes just to see what you said.

    If you do that all the time, you will find people like you a lot more, which will help your Warrior Forum experience. It doesn't matter where you place breaks; random breaks would be 1000% better than that ugly block you started off with.
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    • Profile picture of the author philipsimbahan
      Originally Posted by Greg guitar View Post

      I only quickly skimmed the thread so apologies to others if this has been said, but perhaps it bears repeating since the op so far hasn't changed it:

      The first post hurt my eyes. If you want help, ask in a way that doesn't cause pain to those who might be willing to help you. My suggestion to you is to go back and edit your post, and put some white space in among that horrible solid block of text.

      You might think I'm just complaining, but if you make a habit of writing no more than 2-4 lines on average before making a new paragraph, other members will start off predisposed to help you, instead of annoyed because you expect them to strain their eyes just to see what you said.

      If you do that all the time, you will find people like you a lot more, which will help your Warrior Forum experience. It doesn't matter where you place breaks; random breaks would be 1000% better than that ugly block you started off with.
      sorry about that as i said earlier i am not in good english writing.
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      • Profile picture of the author Greg guitar
        Originally Posted by philipsimbahan View Post

        sorry about that as i said earlier i am not in good english writing.
        Dude, you have to stop making excuses; I know because I have a tendency to do that as well; most of us probably have to fight the same battle.

        This has nothing to do with English; it's a basic, super easy typing skill that will show you care without taking any extra time.

        You are not helpless to change; my suggestion wasn't just a complaint, and I don't want an apology; I actually want to help you, as do most Warriors, so look for a way to take the advice instead of finding a reason you can't.

        So I'll suggest it again, along with instructions; I assure you, this is easy and well within your abilities:

        You can get many more people to read your post if you follow these steps:

        1) Go to your first post, and find the button under it that says "edit".

        2) Click it.

        3) Then click in the edit window about 2 lines from the top of the post; of course, make sure your curser is between the end of a sentence and the beginning of the next.

        4) Hit the "enter" key. Like magic, a line of space will be created.

        5) Repeat the process about 2 sentences later, then 2 more after that, until you're done.

        Even the first time you try it, this process will take no more than 15 seconds if you take your time. I'm not being mean; I am trying to encourage you to see things you think are hard or impossible for what they really are; easy and within your grasp.
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        • Profile picture of the author philipsimbahan
          Originally Posted by Greg guitar View Post

          Dude, you have to stop making excuses; I know because I have a tendency to do that as well; most of us probably have to fight the same battle.

          This has nothing to do with English; it's a basic, super easy typing skill that will show you care without taking any extra time.

          You are not helpless to change; my suggestion wasn't just a complaint, and I don't want an apology; I actually want to help you, as do most Warriors, so look for a way to take the advice instead of finding a reason you can't.

          So I'll suggest it again, along with instructions; I assure you, this is easy and well within your abilities:

          You can get many more people to read your post if you follow these steps:

          1) Go to your first post, and find the button under it that says "edit".

          2) Click it.

          3) Then click in the edit window about 2 lines from the top of the post; of course, make sure your curser is between the end of a sentence and the beginning of the next.

          4) Hit the "enter" key. Like magic, a line of space will be created.

          5) Repeat the process about 2 sentences later, then 2 more after that, until you're done.

          Even the first time you try it, this process will take no more than 15 seconds if you take your time. I'm not being mean; I am trying to encourage you to see things you think are hard or impossible for what they really are; easy and within your grasp.
          Dont worry i am not being sarcasting i actually appreciated what you had said.
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  • Profile picture of the author cpwebsite
    Sorry to here about your site. Try doing something simple like forum posts, or blog writing you said your not very good at blog writing so forum posts would be better. If you can get paid $0.10/post (lower end cost), = $6/hour which means if you can get enough work you can make $60 a day full time.

    However none of these things are quick, you need to get a job or fix whats stopping you.
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  • Profile picture of the author sunray
    I can recommend a decent webhost that has free plan available. I helped my friend to open a Wordpress blog there, and for about a month it has worked just fine (well.. without any considerable traffic so far..). The server is in Kiel, Germany, and their URL is curhost.com

    I think they have autoinstaller too (I did it manually though), but even if they don't have it it's not so hard to do it following a tutorial. If you invest some time on it then after doing that you have one thing more that you already CAN do.
    But you absolutely have to purchase a domain. Without it you really cannot move. internetbs.net is the cheapest normal solution available (they are cheap because the company is registered in a tax haven). They accept credit cards, PayPal and Skrill. If you don't have a credit card, and no account in either of other services, then why not go to your local bank, and consult with them what options they can provide for you to get this one important deal done.
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  • Profile picture of the author f00gee
    have you tried taking on jobs on odesk.com ? they have plenty of jobs that are low skill like data entry, posting, blogging and searching. We have hired people from the Philippians in the past so they must be compatible with your currency / backing system. By doing the jobs you can learn what people are looking for and come up with your own marketing ideas. This will give you some experience and extra money in your pocket.

    as far as CPA. hosting companies accept anything and anyone. the payouts are good too. try www.cj.com

    As far as hosting your site. Get some money for a domain name. Come up with a plan. send me a private message. i will give you a coupon for 1 year free of actual paid hosting.
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  • Profile picture of the author perfect
    Try as much as you can to pay for hosting and domain all these are relatively cheap, isn't must you get them from foreign country you can get them from your country and at thesame time target your local market, is advisable to start your business from your local market before going international.
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  • Profile picture of the author sputnik4024
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    Try this GYBO.com: it's Google's small business initiative and it gives you a free .com domain for a year and hosting and an easy to use sitebuilder. Just create a PayPal account to collect the money and then withdraw it to your bank account or just buy stuff with it online. Honestly GYBO is great. You can cancel any time before the year is over or if your profits were good renew your membership (somewhere around $100 a year but I'm not sure, so don't quote me). Helped me make my site,
    Good luck,
    Alex.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    I actually tried running a free site. BECAUSE it was free, and I wanted to centrally manage it, etc... IT didn't allow a lot of scripts, etc... Some people tried to abuse it ROYALLY. Anyway, i stopped it.

    Many don't think about the problems of running a site. Keeping it up, Keeping it legal, preventing it from being a real drain in time/money, etc...

    So YEAH, free sites either aren't run well, are missing features, are slow, have lots of ads, building a database, will start charging, or their days are numbered.

    Sandra,

    philip sounds like one I generally call a technophobe. He even rationalizes it in his OP by saying he "never graduated grade school". Frankly, MOST foreign schools don't teach english that well, so I think that is obviously a crutch! Most foreign schools that DO teach english well are in countries NOBODY would ban, etc... like Holland.

    Anyway, the term Phobe is thrown around a lot these days. I coined the word in the 70s, and used phobe to mean fear. I guess others did also, since it IS a used word. Anyway, technophobes try to avoid delving into the specifics of technology, and feel they cant install a program so they don't even try.

    It is sad, but most people can do SO much more than they ever try to do. Of course, conversely, others try to do more than they ever should.

    Apparently the Philippines DOES have problems with fraud, etc... so I can understand the grief. Of course, there SHOULD be local web hosts.

    Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author Kingfish85
      Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

      I actually tried running a free site. BECAUSE it was free, and I wanted to centrally manage it, etc... IT didn't allow a lot of scripts, etc... Some people tried to abuse it ROYALLY. Anyway, i stopped it.
      ^This exactly. We ran a promo here on WF to try and give back to the community with a small free account with minimal features. Roughly 70 or so signups in the first 24 hours, 90% of which were found to be attempting to send thousands of spam emails, uploading software, pirated themes and all kinds of other junk.

      Ultimately we had to pull the offer, but the few who actually are running small websites that are legit, seem to be doing well.
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    Originally Posted by JohnTimmins View Post

    Hi Philip,

    From what country you came from? I am thinking that you can from the Philippines because of your last name.

    Anyway, if you want to make money online, you need skills. That's it period. To acquire those skills, all you need to do is be open-minded and try to digest and implement what you have learned.

    The best way for you to get started is start a blog over Blogger/Blogspot.

    I will tell you, it is just as easy as you think to make money online. It needs a lot of effort and a lot of patience. Always remember that because that was my motivation when I get started.

    I don't have the skills set before and I am new in using computer because I am an auto-mechanic. Anyway, try to search this guy over facebook... Felix Albutra

    He can help you with your problem.
    It's not the best way at all to use Blogger. The spam system which removes blogs is broken well and truely. They delete blogs at a whim even if your content is all original and you use few very affiliate links. At the moment, I would rate blogger as 0/10. Awful, it's sad to say.

    So many spammers have flocked to blogger and it seems that Google decided to make their spam system so severe to combat it that they've ruined the platform.

    He would be best to use one of the free hosts suggested earlier in the thread until he can buy hosting and a domain.
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  • Profile picture of the author sunray
    One other thing I'd recommend is that when you use a free host, better use STATIC pages. Learn to make a website the old way: install a HTML editor and make your website locally as HTML files, then uploading the files to the server. Or, if you absolutely want to have your site running on Wordpress, then use a plugin that caches all the content as static. That way you'll not use many resources (which you have very limited on a free plan), and your host is not going to kill the site on the moment when little traffic happens.
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  • Profile picture of the author Carol_A
    All long-term businesses should have professional, paid hosting in my opinion. Yeah, there are ways to get started if you're completely strapped, like Hostzilla but even then, I don't think it's good for long term, growing businesses.

    If the person is serious about making money online, they should develop the necessary skills with which to offer services online to earn the money.

    You'd be surprised at how many hidden talents each one of us has...

    Wishing you all the best.
    - Carol
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  • Profile picture of the author Carol_A
    I would check out the thread about host gator being bought out... Seems there are many folks saying the company that bought them is trying to get a monopoly on hosting.

    They also say that customer service deteriorates as well as loading times.

    Was considering them for reseller account, however, have changed my mind.

    Wishing you all the best.
    :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author Greg guitar
      Originally Posted by Carol_A View Post

      I would check out the thread about host gator being bought out... Seems there are many folks saying the company that bought them is trying to get a monopoly on hosting.

      They also say that customer service deteriorates as well as loading times.

      Was considering them for reseller account, however, have changed my mind.

      Wishing you all the best.
      :-)
      I think it's too early to come to any conclusions about the quality of customer service, although this is sad news if it's true. I have had help from Hostgator less than a week ago though, and so far they are a stellar as always.

      I have always found them easy to get through to (maybe a minute or less average wait), and infinitely patient; the overall value is ridiculous if you need support. There have been months when they spend hours helping me, and I spend $10 a month for hosting; that's all they get from me; amazing!

      I don't know about load times, or what the future holds, but if any company succeeds in monopolizing hosting, it won't be good news. I know the big boys never stop trying to swallow up as many smaller competitors as possible.
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  • Profile picture of the author Niko A Berezkin
    My friend I'm sorry but I really don't see how you can be comfortable working with scripts and not know how to edit/design a Word Press install. If you really are just getting started, you don't need any money to run a WordPress.com blog. You can learn everything about customization there for free, even drive some traffic to your blog, and if there's conversions for you, switch over to a hosted domain when you have the means. There's also Blogger, Weebly, Squidoo, Tumblr, etc. to consider... all completely free, and some of these properties are easier to rank then self hosted sites when it comes to SEO.
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  • Profile picture of the author Carol_A
    Excellent point!

    I don't use the either/or...But all...

    I use the Weebly, Hub pages, Squidoo, etc. as spokes in the wheel....to point back to the hub, which is a self-hosted WordPress blog.

    Love hearing different perspectives, great food for thought.

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  • Profile picture of the author Yildiz
    Here's what you should do.

    1.Stop telling yourself you're worthless/whining.
    2.Get a paypal account (how else do you expect to get paid?)
    3.Don't focus on making your own site. Try something like fiverr and sell an automated service.
    4.I don't understand why you're trying to learn English when you're just starting out. Do stuff in your own language. Make sites and content for local traffic so that you can actually produce something that is of some kind of quality. I sure as hell wouldn't buy anything from you if you were trying to promote an offer within the US with that grammar/spelling. Please take all this into consideration. I am not trying to be mean to you. Just putting it all out there so that you don't waste your time.
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    • Profile picture of the author philipsimbahan
      Originally Posted by Yildiz View Post

      Here's what you should do.

      1.Stop telling yourself you're worthless/whining.
      2.Get a paypal account (how else do you expect to get paid?)
      3.Don't focus on making your own site. Try something like fiverr and sell an automated service.
      4.I don't understand why you're trying to learn English when you're just starting out. Do stuff in your own language. Make sites and content for local traffic so that you can actually produce something that is of some kind of quality. I sure as hell wouldn't buy anything from you if you were trying to promote an offer within the US with that grammar/spelling. Please take all this into consideration. I am not trying to be mean to you. Just putting it all out there so that you don't waste your time.
      Your not being mean your just being honest. Thanks for that. My real problem is probably my attitude.

      Because I am afraid to fail. Because this is my first and only shot. But with the kind words people has given me. I think I am now confident to make it.

      If not its probably a made a mistake and i would probably fix it again.
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  • Profile picture of the author philipsimbahan
    That's why i love the warrior forum. People helping people in need like me. Thanks Sandra, greg guitar and to all people who advices me in this thread.

    I will be back here for sure with a success story.
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    • Profile picture of the author Greg guitar
      Originally Posted by philipsimbahan View Post

      That's why i love the warrior forum. People helping people in need like me. Thanks Sandra, greg guitar and to all people who advices me in this thread.

      I will be back here for sure with a success story.
      One thing I think is clear is that you understand the need to work on your self esteem, which is great; there is no bigger key to success imo. I have to give you a lot of credit for taking in what people are saying without getting mad.

      I have seen some sad threads in my time here, where people will jump in like they have here, trying to help someone, and the person being helped ends up getting very upset because they think everyone is attacking them, and they sometimes attack back.

      You were wise to thank people who were giving you a bit of tough love; you have been criticized quite a bit; not as a human being, but simply for the things you've been saying about why you're struggling.

      Many of us have taken you to task for making excuses, and that isn't easy to hear; there is a temptation to get very defensive. I may have missed a post or two, but it seems you've been very calm and respectful, and thanked people for fairly critical remarks, which is appropriate, but hard for many people when in the hot seat.

      That gives me lots of hope for you, because it means you're teachable and want to be helped. That, in turn attracts more help, in an upward cycle. So yes, you need to work on parts of your attitude, but your sincere desire to take the help offered is a great attitude that you should keep.

      That attitude might help you overcome attitudes that are in your way; increasing your self esteem, and when self-esteem goes up, things that seemed hard seem doable, and you tackle them, and then they become easy, and pretty soon you're an expert.

      One more thing; I just want to remind you that Wordpress really is easy. You probably won't really feel that until you try it, but once you dig in for a few days, or maybe even hours, you will be telling yourself "I can't believe I thought this was hard".

      Now I gotta work on my site. Let's sit in our favorite chair, click some buttons, and make some money. If our fingers get tired, or we need to lie down, we can learn to control our machines by talking to them.
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  • Profile picture of the author philipsimbahan
    To all who help me and advices me. thank you so much.Its free to dream but we must pursue our dreams if we want to be successful. Failure is not a hindrance for success.

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    I've always had like 30-40 domains hosted for like $9.99 or something per month with 1and1 and it's been pretty decent like 8+ years now.
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