Would a 9 page 2k words suffice for a free e-book?

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As the tittle suggest, would it suffice? It's in the fitness niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author speedylikesKJ
    To be honest words and pages never matter as long as your product is of high quality
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  • Profile picture of the author clintmyers
    Yes, that is almost big enough to sell as a WSO.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    One page will suffice if delivers a value the reader is looking to gain.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kezz
    It really depends on how densely packed the info is.

    If you have 9 pages of awesome info, then you're all set to go.

    But if it's 9 pages of "meh" then you'd be better off adding more content or even compressing what you have so the quality per page increases.
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    • Profile picture of the author robestrong
      If it's free, they can't fault you. It can't be worth less in hard cash than they paid for it (because they didn't). Add a cover, TOC, intro, and conclusion, and your up to 13 pages.
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  • Profile picture of the author RogerzWorld
    Most people in this microwave era are lazy, so if you can get a ton of value in a few pages then that's a win/win in my book..
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by LearnNOTmoney View Post

    Would a 9 page 2k words suffice for a free e-book?
    Yes, definitely - as long as it's information the readers value highly and feel they couldn't have got elsewhere.

    And - if you're using it as "the free report for an opt-in" - as long it also serves the fundamental purposes of "free reports for opt-ins": http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7494085

    Not many of mine are as long as 9 pages.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
      Originally Posted by robestrong View Post

      If it's free, they can't fault you. It can't be worth less in hard cash than they paid for it (because they didn't). Add a cover, TOC, intro, and conclusion, and your up to 13 pages.
      Of course they can fault you. In fact, a lousy free report can cost you money.

      With a subscriber incentive, giving out a report that has little to no value is a really, really bad way to start building a relationship with your list. If it sucks, they unsubscribe.

      You may think that's a low cost but it may be the highest cost of your career - people who unsub because you gave them crap also remember that when they see you make a paid offer. They think that since you gave them crap when you were supposedly trying to earn their trust and respect, then you will sell a crap product just to make a buck.

      Luckily for the OP, in this situation, size really doesn't matter:p It's quality that counts. If the freebie solves a problem for the reader or makes them feel you're an expert, they'll stick around and be far more likely to turn into devoted fans. Fans buy almost everything you put out, assuming the value continues to be high.
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        The shortest opt-in incentive I remember having any value was just over a page long. The longest was over a hundred.

        The commonality between them is that both delivered on the promise made, and made me want more. Exactly what you want in an incentive.

        Too many people think the job is done once you get someone to enter that email, and all you have to do is start counting your money. The truth is, the real work begins once they hit the submit button...
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      • Profile picture of the author LearnNOTmoney
        Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

        One page will suffice if delivers a value the reader is looking to gain.
        Understood. I was searching for my answers on Google, and a good chunk of articles had pages this page that so i was wondering if it had any effect on it.


        Originally Posted by Tina Golden View Post

        Of course they can fault you. In fact, a lousy free report can cost you money.

        With a subscriber incentive, giving out a report that has little to no value is a really, really bad way to start building a relationship with your list. If it sucks, they unsubscribe.

        You may think that's a low cost but it may be the highest cost of your career - people who unsub because you gave them crap also remember that when they see you make a paid offer. They think that since you gave them crap when you were supposedly trying to earn their trust and respect, then you will sell a crap product just to make a buck.

        Luckily for the OP, in this situation, size really doesn't matter:p It's quality that counts. If the freebie solves a problem for the reader or makes them feel you're an expert, they'll stick around and be far more likely to turn into devoted fans. Fans buy almost everything you put out, assuming the value continues to be high.
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        Thanks Tina, was just reading my draft and i realized it would be so much better if i cut a page or two. I was concentrating too much on size
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  • Profile picture of the author jvjoe
    A 9 page free report with rich content is better than 20 pages of fluffy free report. Once your 9 page FREE report is loaded with rich content that will help your subscribers then it's okay.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
      Originally Posted by raylee1 View Post

      hows the best way to find out
      By starting your own thread instead of hijacking someone else's.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aouragh
    Exactly, it isn't about the length of an e-book, but about the content that's in it. You need to see it through the eyes of the reader. I, myself, would rather have a 9 page e-book which explains everything clearly, than a 30 paged e-book which has 20 pages of content that really doesn't make any sense at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Yeah it would, IF... you deliver hard hitting information from page 1. A freebie like this can earn you credibility quickly, and will motivate leads to buy from you. But only if it's GOOD.
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  • Profile picture of the author mrelk159
    If there is real value in what is in the ebook than that is enough. Quality over Quantity.
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  • Profile picture of the author stephenwaldo
    There is definitely something to be said for quality over quantity, but in the end it depends on the type of relationship you want to foster with your subscribers. If you're looking for a quick hit, something short that sticks in their mind for a couple weeks is more than enough. However, consider this:

    Look at Pat Flynn over at Smart Passive Income. The e-book he gives away for free is 35 pages of perfectly formatted, high-quality material, and frankly it is a better product than 95% of the WSO's found on this very forum. Because of this, even though I signed up to his list at least six months ago I still read his e-mails, I still reference that e-book, and most importantly... I remember him.

    Was creating such a high-quality freebie worth it for him? Well, considering that his latest monthly income report showed him earning $39K in affiliate revenue alone, I'd say yes it was.

    So, to answer your question:

    Yes, 9 pages is more than enough, especially if it is 9 pages jam-packed with useful, memorable information. However, remember that the higher the quality of the content you give your visitors, the longer and more likely they are to remember you.
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  • Profile picture of the author KevinDahlberg
    In this case, size doesn't matter.

    It's all about "personality."
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  • Profile picture of the author H.Miller
    Yep that plenty. As long as you are providing a ton of value in those 9 pages you are good to go.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sumit thakur
    it is not about the length its about the value .
    you can collect a crap and combine it in 500 page ebook but it will be waste .but if you make a 5 page ebook with high quality content it will be more valuable than that 500 page ebook
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  • Profile picture of the author vijai
    quality content in one page is much better than more pages
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  • Profile picture of the author mervp
    Packing quality into at least a part of the free ebook can give you the license to make the rest of it as a glorified hype content, to promote your fuller, paid product. The useful info portion leads to writing the rest of the content up as a desguised sales letter, that raises good questions about problems related to the niche, that are solved by the paid product/service you provide.
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  • Profile picture of the author JWImarketing
    For my two cents, this when copy writing comes into play. If you use bad grammar lets say, you might turn off your readers. In my experience, and especially with a fickle market, you need to over-deliver. Unannounced free bonuses work very well. If they opt in for the free report in the first place you will want them to remember you. My advice is 7-15 pages and a very good soap opera sequence of follow up emails. You must have this in place ahead of time or the report does you absolutely no good. Hope this helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author LearnNOTmoney
      Originally Posted by JWImarketing View Post

      For my two cents, this when copy writing comes into play. If you use bad grammar lets say, you might turn off your readers. In my experience, and especially with a fickle market, you need to over-deliver. Unannounced free bonuses work very well. If they opt in for the free report in the first place you will want them to remember you. My advice is 7-15 pages and a very good soap opera sequence of follow up emails. You must have this in place ahead of time or the report does you absolutely no good. Hope this helps.
      I do plan on having someone edit it after editing it myslef. Did not think about planning ahead with the followups.Will probably need to have that planned.
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  • Profile picture of the author mojojuju
    It depends on what you wrote in those 9 pages.
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