What would you do with a list of 45,000 hot leads

by Dv1041
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Hey guys, this is my first post in a long while so be easy on me if this is not the right place to post this.

I recently left an equestrian supply company that is in the midst of bankruptcy. I took all of the leads I generated equaling over 45,000 of residential and commercial people interested and willing to pay for equestrian products, stalls, flooring, and other horse products.

My question to you guys is, as internet marketers, how or what would you do with this list to generate some income. Any suggestions would be extremely helpful, and yes, I will execute something, thats what i do, I dont just listen to advice and not take action so if someone has a good idea and wants to partner send me a pm. thanks all!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author MarketingQA
    This is just an opinion, but I would start building a relationship with these people. Send out one or two emails a week that can bring value to them. For example, ask the list what products that they are interested and what kind of pricing would they expect from you as the new expert. Maybe send them a free how to guide on certain products and how they can benefit from them. Once the relationship has been started, offer a discount on whatever you can. This could turn into a long term relationship.

    Good luck,

    Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author IMMaster
    Before you think to get money from these people on your list, try to build a long run relationship with them by trying to send them some valuable material and hot topics of their interests . They will gradually start to trust you and accept your other offers. this is my opinion.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicholasb
    I would start providing them with an incredible amount of free information that actually helps them do things, with short offers at the end of each.

    Make sure to give them a lot of great tips and value before making an offer to them, I would first start out by sending them a surevy to find out exactly what they want and need the most help with and exactly what they are looking for then create the content and offers around that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Don Schenk
    To generate "some income" from the list, you must sell something to people on the list. Just having a list and mailing it will do nothing. You already have the list and don't need to have people opt-in if you observe the CAN-SPAM rules, but for safety (and to keep an autoresponder company happy) you might want to offer a "free something of value," and acquire opt-ins from the list.

    Let me preface this with I am not a lawyer, nor do I look like one, but I do read lawyer jokes.

    I researched this very "list-rights" topic a few month ago for an article I wrote about who owned the list, and to my surprise there were a lot of "it depends" to it. In some cases the ex-employee had the right to mail it.

    Before you start contacting the people on that list you might want to run this past an attorney, just to keep yourself out of a bit of potentially very hot water.

    What type of bankruptcy is the company going through - restructuring, or dissolution? If it is resturcturing, the owners are going to see you as new competition using their intellectual property - their list.

    If you were an employee, and you were paid to generate the list, you probably don't own that list or the rights to mail/email to it. Customer data lists are intellectual property owned by the business, but as I found out, there are exceptions.

    An ex-relative of mine (divorced out of the family) had an employee take his list and start competing with him using his own list. When he finished dragging that employee through the courts, it put that employee out of business.

    As a person one who has owned several brick & mortar businesses, I'd be pissed if an ex-employee who stole my list.

    If I paid an employee to build a list, and that employee was not an independent contractor, and the list contained info that could not be found on a generic list elsewhere, I would be the one who owned the list.

    :-Don
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    • Profile picture of the author Dv1041
      Thanks Don, I was an independent contractor and the company is in dissolution. It is no longer operating and I spent my own time and money generating those leads. The owner gave me written permission to do with them as I please as long as the company name is not used. Thank you very much for your insight, and I will definately keep all of that info in mind while I start contacting these leads.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
        Originally Posted by Dv1041 View Post

        Thanks Don, I was an independent contractor and the company is in dissolution. It is no longer operating and I spent my own time and money generating those leads. The owner gave me written permission to do with them as I please as long as the company name is not used. Thank you very much for your insight, and I will definately keep all of that info in mind while I start contacting these leads.
        In that case, I grew up on a horse ranch. I've got all kinds of horse-related true stories. Here's what I'd do:

        1. Send an email briefly explaining who you are. That might be a little tricky since you can't use the company name, but with a little thought you should be able to get around that little inconvenience.

        2. Affirm your commitment to them. Explain that you intend to help them in any way you can.

        3. Include a good tip about horse care, or some other aspect of horse ownership, that demonstrate how you can add value to their passion.

        4. Do not try to sell them anything yet. Try to get them involved. Perhaps ask them to send in their best tip to share with others, or poll them about something related to horses.

        That's the first email. Next I'd tell a story, or offer a tutorial of some kind. I could wing that with my experience, you might have to do some research. Leave it at that.

        In the third email, offer another story or tutorial, and tie it in with a product you're an affiliate for. By the way, if you're not a horse owner, I don't recommend you fake it or lie; you can tell a story about someone else and accomplish the same thing.

        If you can't tie in a tutorial with a product, you might say something like, "By the way, I just read a great book about (something to do with) horses. You might want to check it out." ...and link to it on Amazon. Another angle, "I was just looking at horse tack on Amazon and noticed the Oster Equine Grooming Kit is on sale right now. If you groom your own horses you might want to take a look at it while the price is right."

        From there you just keep going, keep learning, and keep on keeping on.

        Hope that helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Donne
    1st build a relationship with them as an individual, rather than that maybe built with the company you were with, go to a forum where these guys hang out, find out what issues they have, develop or find a product that solves the issue, and offer it to them, with your email campaigns, give 80% value, 20% selling, go do a search ,see what others are doing in the niche, price points etc, and do it better
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    Don beat me to it...

    When the OP says:

    I recently left an equestrian supply company that is in the midst of bankruptcy. I took all of the leads I generated equaling over 45,000 of residential and commercial people interested and willing to pay for equestrian products, stalls, flooring, and other horse products.
    He didn't mention whether he had the right to do so or not. Actually, it sounds like he simply downloaded the leads, figuring that a company going through bankruptcy wouldn't bother to pursue it. He also didn't mention whether he used company assets to generate those leads.

    That list of leads, however, is one of the assets of the firm. If the company is dissolving, that asset can be liquidated (sold) to help pay the debts of the company. An employee "liberating" that list and using it for his own purposes devalues the list, which might be of concern to the judge and/or whoever is appointed to supervise the liquidation and distribution of assets.

    I'll echo Don's advice - get competent legal advice about your rights before you do anything with those leads.
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  • Profile picture of the author wordpressdoctor
    Does Amazon sell these kind of products? Because if they do, you can become an affiliate and really get paid.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Pawlett
    I also echo what Don and John said.

    That list is an extremely valuable assets especially if they are going into bankruptcy.

    I don't know what country you are in but if you were in the UK the official receiver would want that list as its the easiest way to dispose of the remaining assets in a fire sale, thereby trying to recoup some of the creditors losses.
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    • Originally Posted by John Pawlett View Post

      I also echo what Don and John said.

      That list is an extremely valuable assets especially if they are going into bankruptcy.

      I don't know what country you are in but if you were in the UK the official receiver would want that list as its the easiest way to dispose of the remaining assets in a fire sale, thereby trying to recoup some of the creditors losses.
      Exactly my thoughts. Unless you were given express, written permission, or have ownership of those leads... better safe than sorry.
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      • Profile picture of the author Steve B
        DV1041,

        Does the company owe you any money? Back salary? Benefits? Favors?

        What I'm suggesting would have to be legal or it's not worth doing. And depending upon bankruptcy status and laws, it may not be, I don't know.

        I would see if the company would send out an email (or several) on your behalf to the entire list announcing that the company is going out of business and that they recommend that their customers download a free and valuable "farewell gift from __(company's name here)__."

        You create the free gift, a very credible quality report related to Equestrian equipment or supplies that would be seen as quite valuable by the list members.

        At the end of the report, and throughout the report occasionally (don't overdo it), drop your new web site URL into the conversation. That URL would refer to a squeeze page set up specifically for "Former Valued Customers of __(company's name here)__ . "

        Of course, the strategy behind this is to get new optins to your web site from former customers on the business list. You won't get all or even most of the old customers I suspect, but if you got even 5% of them to opt in you would have a new list of 2,250 people.

        I would then think about starting a paid equestrian membership site and offering a free 30-day trial for all former customers of __(company's name here)__. That would give you a great start on a new business where you could market affiliate products, info products, etc to equestrian enthusiasts.

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  • Profile picture of the author Sumit thakur
    build relation with the list .
    provide your list some thing really good (if you provide them something really good they will be more eager to read your emails )
    then you can send them offers
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  • Profile picture of the author H.Miller
    I would create free reports and videos that show them different uses for the products you have to offer. Just be sure to add links in your reports and your videos that drive them to your sales pages for the products. The more valuable information your provide to them the more they will start to like and trust you. And once they start to trust you there is no limit to the amount of money you can make with them.
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    build a product site and ask them to review it for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author CoachManny
    I would recommend asking for permission to send them future emails.

    Let them know that at one time they did business with you and you would like permission to send emails that would be along the lines of information they would be interested in.

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  • Profile picture of the author Sue McDonald
    Yes I have to agree with Don and John on the ownership of this list. If it was an employee who simply downloaded it thinking they could make money from it - I would definitely be seeking legal advise before doing anything with it.

    Is it just a list of names or is it a list on an autoresponder?

    There are a lot of unanswered questions here but if you can legally use the list don't waste time and start contacting these people immediately and tell them why you are contacting them and offer them information and products. This list is not worth a cent if you do not form a relationship with them and you can sell them some products.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dustin Blevins
    Personally, I would start my own equestrian site or something similar and send ads for that site to the list.
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  • Profile picture of the author footbag_man
    Originally Posted by Dv1041 View Post

    Hey guys, this is my first post in a long while so be easy on me if this is not the right place to post this.

    I recently left an equestrian supply company that is in the midst of bankruptcy. I took all of the leads I generated equaling over 45,000 of residential and commercial people interested and willing to pay for equestrian products, stalls, flooring, and other horse products.

    My question to you guys is, as internet marketers, how or what would you do with this list to generate some income. Any suggestions would be extremely helpful, and yes, I will execute something, thats what i do, I dont just listen to advice and not take action so if someone has a good idea and wants to partner send me a pm. thanks all!!!

    WOW!!!!

    Dude this is awesome.. first give them some free content for the next few weeks (once per week).. then take a look at some equestrian digital products on CB that might suit them and send them a subtle promotion.
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