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11 years ago

I will once again put in my vote here for selling services. If you have something you are good at, you can just do your thing and make money and more money and more money. Depends where you sell how it all boils down, but it's solid. If you can't do the service find a provider who does and do some testing and hard work and make it happen. It's the most drop dead easiest way to make money online.

note...

forums tend to be places to find "cheap labor" as it were, offline customers pay much more for the same services..

Matt

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priehali 11 years ago

Originally Posted by mattjay

I will once again put in my vote here for selling services. ...
Matt

Thanks for answer. But in this case I have some questions:
- What kind of services might it be? Ebooks, soft or something else?
- How can I know what do people need in the fields where I suppose to find service supplier?
I don't have a clear plan here to my regret.
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jgant

11 years ago

This is always a difficult question.

I use all 3 methods and more with just a small handful of websites.

I publish posts promoting products as an affiliate (no adsense on these posts - product reviews for example).
I publish posts with adsense.
I build lists of subscribers from some of the websites.
1 website is purely an affiliate product website.
I also have a decent revenue stream working with a couple local clients promoting their business and earning commissions from sending them referrals.

I'm working on diversifying traffic. I was largely search engine reliant for a long time, but now put more effort into building lists and send subscribers back to my sites.

At the end of the day, focus on quality content. Put your all into it. Quality does not necessarily mean 1000s of words, but sometimes does to thoroughly cover a topic.

Mattjay is correct that offering services can generate decent income fast. However, I got into this so I didn't have trade time for money in a literal sense (obviously I still put a lot of time in to earn as an affiliate).

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priehali

11 years ago

Originally Posted by jgant

I use all 3 methods and more with just a small handful of websites.
I publish posts promoting products as an affiliate (no adsense on these posts - product reviews for example).
I publish posts with adsense.
I build lists of subscribers from some of the websites.
1 website is purely an affiliate product website

IMO it is good diversifying tactic.

Originally Posted by jgant

... (obviously I still put a lot of time in to earn as an affiliate)

When you started to earn on your affiliate site, how much were your expenses? Do you create multiple review pages on your own or with outsourcing?

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Alex Greene

11 years ago

Originally Posted by jgant

I publish posts promoting products as an affiliate (no adsense on these posts - product reviews for example).
I publish posts with adsense.

This is a fantastic idea. 2 in one. Promoting a product in a post with adsense.

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priehali

11 years ago

Finally I decided to start with affiliate marketing. For the first step I want to make a promotion video for some product for the purpose of traffic generation and redirecting it through my domen name to the landing page of seller. Therefore I have few questions.
1. Where can evergreen or hot affiliate products be found? I registered in few affiliate networks and I do not know which one of thousands products is better then others. I can say with confidence only about clickbank at the moment, because I registered in ClickBank Marketplace - cbengine, which gives the analysis of clickbank offers.
2. What is better - to promote physical products or information ones?
Will be glad to hear the answers.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by priehali

I want to make a promotion video for some product for the purpose of traffic generation and redirecting it through my domen name to the landing page of seller.

It's opinion only, but personally I'd strongly advise you to stay away from ClickBank products, if you want to do that kind of marketing. I think this isn't at all how ClickBank products are typically sold (it's how many people try to sell them, but it's not usually how they're actually sold successfully, I mean).

This thread may help you, Priehali: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7110523

Originally Posted by priehali

I do not know which one of thousands products is better then others.

See if this thread helps with that? ... http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post2161932

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paul nicholls

11 years ago

If you're fairly new to IM and you haven't made much money online yet if any then doing anything which makes you money is a start

In my opinion if you just want to get started with a method just to make an extra few hundred dollars per month then I would do one of the following

1. create review videos on youtube and promote clickbank products
2. create small - medium size niche sites around popular products on amazon
3. create a basic squeeze page, give away a free report and build a list and promote affiliate products
4. create some type of news site where you create new stories everyday according to google trends. You can then monetize the site with adsense, cpa and amazon products

these are just a few methods but if you're just starting out then i would stick to one of these until you're making some money

unless you focus on just 1 method you're not going to make a thing

Paul

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Daniel Tan

11 years ago

My advice is, which ever way you take, whatever sites you build, focus on providing unique and valuable content.

If you are going to do a review video, make sure to make it the best review people will actually watch and learn something. There are tonnes of youtube videos done wrong.

If you are going to build adsense sites, make sure you are providing value as well, otherwise you will struggle getting traffic, ranking, or even a single click.

If you are going to sell a service, sell something people need.

Whatever you do, provide value. Move the human race forward. If you can do this, whichever way you take will make you money.

Daniel

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AndrewCavanagh 11 years ago

If you'd really like to make a substantial income then you need
to start asking yourself "how can I deliver something that's
truly valuable to others?"

It could be valuable content, a course, training, product,
service but you need to take your eyes of what you
want and start thinking about what other people want.

When you find a group of people who have a want and
need that you can supply and you go out of your way
to serve them making money becomes a whole lot
easier.

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InBrussels

11 years ago

I'd say start with making sites. seo for yourself. It will give you good experience so you can even start selling services later.

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11 years ago

Is this "TheRussian" ????

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Alexa Smith

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by priehali

1. Start to make small sites for adsense using high CPC keywords.
2. Start the theme blog, where would be 50-100 pages, for example about Russia, where I live.
3. Try to master affiliate marketing

Point #3 seems to be expensive for start with (200-400 usd I suppose?)

I don't see why. I started my whole affiliate marketing business for under $100 (and if I'd known what I was doing at the time, it would have been under $50). It seems by far the best choice, of the three, to me.

Originally Posted by priehali

Point #1 I consider as not so difficult. I assume that income should be about 10-30 usd per month.

That might be from the small minority of the sites that "work well". I understand that most people find that great majority of them don't. I think this is a very difficult, very time-consuming, very much "patience-demanding" business model with a huge amount of trial and error in it. It also involves some capital outlay for domain-names (unless you want to build your business on subdomains of domains owned by other people, which doesn't seem wise at all?). It's also Google-dependent, for both the traffic and the income, which is very, very bad news indeed. Terribly precarious. One to stay well away from, in my opinion.

Originally Posted by priehali

Point #2 also looks to be good.

Possibly.

But bear in mind that having a blog of 50-150 pages isn't in itself a source of income. "Blogging", per se, is not a paid business model. It's a form of website-building that can be monetized, of course. But it isn't in itself monetized. You need traffic. You need to derive income from the traffic (and that means AdSense, or affiliate links, or CPA links, or listbuilding, or displaying advertising, or whatever else you do). It isn't a business on its own.

Originally Posted by priehali

For example if I start blog(site) about Russia I can give people in the world much of useful information, because I am Russian and can write true articles about many things – tourism, legal issues, Russian cuisine and so far. Even I can find for any person request a truthful information about many issues.

Maybe so.

But how do you earn money from it? I'm not suggesting that you can't. I'm merely pointing out that you haven't mentioned how you would.

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priehali

11 years ago

Originally Posted by paul nicholls

In my opinion if you just want to get started with a method just to make an extra few hundred dollars per month then I would do one of the following

1. create review videos on youtube and promote clickbank products
2. create small - medium size niche sites around popular products on amazon
3. create a basic squeeze page, give away a free report and build a list and promote affiliate products
4. create some type of news site where you create new stories everyday according to google trends. You can then monetize the site with adsense, cpa and amazon products

these are just a few methods but if you're just starting out then i would stick to one of these until you're making some money

unless you focus on just 1 method you're not going to make a thing

Paul

Very interesting - I need to gather more information about these points.

Originally Posted by Daniel Tan

Whatever you do, provide value. Move the human race forward. If you can do this, whichever way you take will make you money.

Daniel

I understand this. I don't want to use loopholes or tricks.

Originally Posted by AndrewCavanagh

When you find a group of people who have a want and
need that you can supply and you go out of your way
to serve them making money becomes a whole lot
easier.

Kindest regards,
Andrew Cavanagh

It is also clear but need to be researched.

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

About #3...
I don't see why. I started my whole affiliate marketing business for under $100 (and if I'd known what I was doing at the time, it would have been under $50). It seems by far the best choice, of the three, to me.

About #1...
That might be from the small minority of the sites that "work well"... One to stay well away from, in my opinion.

About #2...
But how do you earn money from it? I'm not suggesting that you can't. I'm merely pointing out that you haven't mentioned how you would.

About #3 This is a great news to me that affiliate marketing may not be so expensive as I have read before - I will search an information about it.
About #1 That is not happy news but the bitter true is better than sugar lie...
About #2 I assumed such kinds of incomes like pages with hot adsense keywords, direct consulting for value about specific questions connected with Russia, may be some other things...

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napoleonfirst

11 years ago

Well, buying adsense sites is great if you know how to get the traffic Fiverr.com has many gigs that will help yoi get the targeted traffic ou need. WPRobot will help you get even more traffic. linkbuilding tools such as SENuke and AMR are great to get even more traffic.

One of the best things you can do is reading as much as you can in the WF to develop your skills in this field as soon as possible.

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Alexa Smith Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by napoleonfirst

linkbuilding tools such as SENuke and AMR are great to get even more traffic.

This "advice" is grossly out of date. What software like that is good for, now, is getting your site heavily penalized by Google's Penguin's update.

That's why there are so many posts here from Warriors bemoaning their fate in the SERP's, some of whom have been told openly and directly by Google that using software like that is the reason.

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6879217

Originally Posted by napoleonfirst

One of the best things you can do is reading as much as you can in the WF to develop your skills in this field as soon as possible.

Perhaps if you occasionally did that yourself, instead of making about 30 posts like this every day, you wouldn't be repeating all this nonsense over and over and over again?
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thaxruwab11

11 years ago

Originally Posted by priehali

Hi, everybody.
I'm a newbie in IM. Much of the time I read an information and still don't know where to go and how. I need some strategic and also concrete advises. At the moment I see a few ways to go:

1. Start to make small sites for adsense using high CPC keywords.
2. Start the theme blog, where would be 50-100 pages, for example about Russia, where I live.
3. Try to master affiliate marketing

Point #3 seems to be expensive for start with (200-400 usd I suppose?) and demands on experience or good adviser, who will help. Therefore it is not optimal variant probably

Point #1 I consider as not so difficult. I assume that income should be about 10-30 usd per month. Each site must have 10-20 articles I suppose. But I must to create about 50-100 such sites to approach good income. It's killing me. But for the start it's probably fine. I have read many ads like "Buy the site for 40 usd and it will earn money from adsense" But I don't see many reviews of those who started to earn this way. What do you know from your experience - is the purchase of ready adsense sites worth for efforts? Or I should use another tactic?

Point #2 also looks to be good. For example if I start blog(site) about Russia I can give people in the world much of useful information, because I am Russian and can write true articles about many things - tourism, legal issues, Russian cuisine and so far. Even I can find for any person request a truthful information about many issues.

What do you think, forum members, about my discursive post? And sorry for my imperfect English

2nd option is a great one, but benefits most in the long run. you won't see great results or income at the begining.

i would say, go with aff. marketing. bcoz, thats how i started first. first i made some aff. sites targeting just 1 product (some led tv's. i sold like 5 of them, which brought me around $400).

then i reinvested that money into making some more of those sites, and then sites around a narrow group of products (ex. 32" samsung led), then little bigger.
then started to make some amazon auto stores like wpzon, etc, around low competitive keywords. that brought me like extra $300-500 each month.

then moved to clickbank, etc. actually, reason i didnt start first with clickbank is, since they are digital products, conversion rates were low, and when i started, i got better results by getting emails, then doing youtube reviews/info videos and then recommending the product.

MASTERING will take little, but can see quick result if you target low competitive, highly targeted keywords. try amazon, bcoz people know it, so they will buy if they land on your site, and they trust amazon. and, you dont need to do email marketing, etc at first.

at last, whatever you do out of 1,2,3.... do it properly. thing is, dont escape when you didnt see results first. i wasted almost 1.5 years like that jumping from method to method and strategy to strategy. focus well, and do until you get result. and take advise, tips, strategies, methods from some people on WF that has done it and get results.

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priehali 11 years ago

Ok, I will try to pay my attention to affiliate marketing because so many people here advise to start with it. For the beginning I will try amazon or ebay. And the reason for this - I know how the ebay works and goes because I was a seller on ebay in 2004-2007, made more than 300 sales there and earned enough. I know how much money are around such sites.

But I will not forget about adsense too. I have a reason for it and now I will tell the story about it (based on true circumstances).

In 2008 I made an usual blog on blogspot with 7 articles, that I simply copied and pasted from some site. I located adsense ads at my blog. Each article contained 1-3 photos. I understood that I made a stupid thing and forgot about IM for years, I gave up. I almost forgot about this, but in October, 2012 I remembered and tried to look at my ugly blog just for fun. But I was really surprised that the blog was still alive and had average 110 unique visitors per day (google analytics). And moreover I received some money into my adsense account but ads were stopped after few months after blog start. I requested pin code, received it in December 2012 and my awful blog continues to earn until now. I noticed that main traffic goes from google, bing and yahoo photo service. And what I think here - if even stupid blog without own domain name, any SEO and with copypasted content gives 110 unique visitors then what I can get from normal blog? That is a question.
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clever7

11 years ago

Before start doing whatever, look for what the online users are buying already from other sites. You must create your business to promote products that are in demand.

You may discover that perhaps it will be better to forget your idea to talk about your country, but discover a product that needs other kind of information, which is being sold, and you could promote.

First of all look for buyers. Don’t create a business based on your suppositions. Make a research, find out what is working online.

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