How I lost a lot and made it back in 6 months.... New Here.

by SMB
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Hi WarriorForum!

I've finally decided to join this forum. My name is Tom. I said to myself the best way to introduce a new face around here would be to bring an awesome story with it. So, here it goes...

I've had an Internet business for about 8 years now. It has changed over the years. Since 2008 my business has mainly been around 30 high volume sites that bring in most of their traffic from SEO. It was all affiliate based income, which was nice because I had no overhead. The business was doing well, earning well into six figures each year, and because of the little overhead I only needed 1 extra person to work for me.

Long story short... Panda/Penguin crushed my business. I mean crushed.
I lost 80% of my earnings over a 3 month span from April - June. I was devastated and frustrated. Almost even thought about getting a J.O.B.

Over the summer I began to diversify my traffic more. Mainly using paid traffic, things like PPV, PPC, and Media Buying. I studied successful campaigns and copied them to the T, put my own twists on them, and came out on top. I moved away from an affiliate based income, and started to build my own products that I could control.

This was the best move I have ever made.

Now with my new paid traffic skills and my own products I'm bringing in 100% of that commission. I'm happy to say that 6 months after my devastating destruction that Google caused me, I finally replaced that income that I worked so hard for. Moral of my story, don't give up, don't put all your eggs in one basket, and keep your head up throughout the trouble times.

Anyways.

I'm Tom, and I'm a Trafficolic.
#$250k #back #lost #made #months
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    Cool story, I thought it was going to be a special offer. What kind of products were you selling and SEO software were you using? Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael_Le
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    Originally Posted by SMB View Post

    Moral of my story, don't give up, don't put all your eggs in one basket, and keep your head up throughout the trouble times.
    best advice anyone can give...........
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  • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
    Thats good news. Some people out there are just made to make money. And thats what you did, so good job.
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
      Good job bouncing back!

      That's the way to do it!
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  • Profile picture of the author genobi
    So Tom, looks like Friedrich Nietzsche was right: "What does not kill you DOES make you stronger!"
    Never give up, as tomorrow is another day...
    Great story!
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  • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
    A lot of people who got crushed in 2012 by Google updates gave up altogether, it's good to see you kept at it and now have a healthy, diverse, business. Congrats.
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    Originally Posted by SMB View Post

    Hi WarriorForum!

    I've finally decided to join this forum. My name is Tom. I said to myself the best way to introduce a new face around here would be to bring an awesome story with it. So, here it goes...

    I've had an Internet business for about 8 years now. It has changed over the years. Since 2008 my business has mainly been around 30 high volume sites that bring in most of their traffic from SEO. It was all affiliate based income, which was nice because I had no overhead. The business was doing well, earning well into six figures each year, and because of the little overhead I only needed 1 extra person to work for me.

    Long story short... Panda/Penguin crushed my business. I mean crushed.
    I lost 80% of my earnings over a 3 month span from April - June. I was devastated and frustrated. Almost even thought about getting a J.O.B.

    Over the summer I began to diversify my traffic more. Mainly using paid traffic, things like PPV, PPC, and Media Buying. I studied successful campaigns and copied them to the T, put my own twists on them, and came out on top. I moved away from an affiliate based income, and started to build my own products that I could control.

    This was the best move I have ever made.

    Now with my new paid traffic skills and my own products I'm bringing in 100% of that commission. I'm happy to say that 6 months after my devastating destruction that Google caused me, I finally replaced that income that I worked so hard for. Moral of my story, don't give up, don't put all your eggs in one basket, and keep your head up throughout the trouble times.

    Anyways.

    I'm Tom, and I'm a Trafficolic.
    Tom,

    That is an awesome story and very inspiring.

    I always tell people here in the forum to never put all their eggs into one basket.

    I would recommend to you since you created your own product, to set up an affiliate program for it so that you can get a lot of people over the next few years promoting it for you.

    Thanks for sharing such a great story.
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    HI Tom,

    Thanks for sharing. Well done for not giving up. It's always darkest before the light and new success arrives.
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    • Profile picture of the author ej2
      Good story, keep up the good work. seems like the best way to make money online is to never give up. And never make google your jv partner LL
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  • Is that correct ... its only taken you 6 months to create a $250k income?

    Thats pretty good going, I doubt many could report such quick progress.
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      Originally Posted by Internet_Corporation View Post

      Is that correct ... its only taken you 6 months to create a $250k income?

      Thats pretty good going, I doubt many could report such quick progress.
      The idea is he had 30 affiliate funnels that relied on SEO. They used to earn him $250K.

      When his traffic tanked he finally started paying for traffic. He was able to take the paid traffic and send it to the same funnels with a profit of $250K. I assume that's what he was saying.

      So he didn't exactly build the income in six months. He replaced the traffic sources over six months.
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      • Profile picture of the author SMB
        Originally Posted by PerformanceMan View Post

        The idea is he had 30 affiliate funnels that relied on SEO. They used to earn him $250K.

        When his traffic tanked he finally started paying for traffic. He was able to take the paid traffic and send it to the same funnels with a profit of $250K. I assume that's what he was saying.

        So he didn't exactly build the income in six months. He replaced the traffic sources over six months.
        This is correct. I also replaced some of the affiliate funnels by making my own products for those particular segments. Instantly increasing my earnings.
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        • Profile picture of the author andirn1
          Originally Posted by SMB View Post

          This is correct. I also replaced some of the affiliate funnels by making my own products for those particular segments. Instantly increasing my earnings.
          Just curious if you could be more specific about making your own products. Are you talking software or ebooks?
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  • Profile picture of the author donadams71
    Great story and welcome to the Warrior Forum. Very inspirational to see that you were able to bounce back like that with such a vengeance. Which paid traffic method brought you the most success, PPV, PPC or Media Buying? Do you think you would ever go back to selling affiliate products?
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    Hey Everyone,

    Thanks for the comments. For Paid Traffic, I have found that PPC provides the most conversions, but not necessarily the best ROI. Media Buying can get you really cheap quality traffic, and if you funnel that traffic correctly you can do wonders. PPV traffic is alright, it's alot of testing, but you can get really creative with it sometimes.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gijsbertus
      Very inspiring and motivating story ... let's roll in 2013 !
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      SMB, great story. I read the subject and clicked through expecting some kind of coaching come-on. Thanks for making me wrong...

      Originally Posted by Internet_Corporation View Post

      Is that correct ... its only taken you 6 months to create a $250k income?

      Thats pretty good going, I doubt many could report such quick progress.
      Read the OP again. It took eight years to create everything. The six months was to replace the traffic the Panda ate and bounce back. Still quite an accomplishment, but not quite so Get Rich Quick...
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    • Originally Posted by SMB View Post

      Hey Everyone,

      Thanks for the comments. For Paid Traffic, I have found that PPC provides the most conversions, but not necessarily the best ROI. Media Buying can get you really cheap quality traffic, and if you funnel that traffic correctly you can do wonders. PPV traffic is alright, it's alot of testing, but you can get really creative with it sometimes.
      Any tips on media buying? Do you use any specific platforms to source your media buys?
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  • Profile picture of the author Niko A Berezkin
    Amazing.... Good job on keeping your head together, and coming out back on top!

    Another moral here: so many get caught up on using just SEO for their traffic. That's a HUGE mistake. Even if you're 100% legit in your link building and content, there's absolutely no garauntess your rankings will not get crushed from algo updates/negative SEO/what ever.

    Knowing how to drive traffic from many different sources is absolutely critical to long term success.

    Cheers Tom
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    Ton this is really an interesting story, good to know that you recover as many didn't.
    Thanks for sharing.
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    Ton this is really an interesting story, good to know that you recover as many didn't.
    Thanks for sharing.
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  • Profile picture of the author mike gregory
    Great story well done! It's refreshing to see that not all these thread title's lead to "now click here to see just how I did it" :p
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    • Profile picture of the author lgibbon
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      Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

      SMB, great story. I read the subject and clicked through expecting some kind of coaching come-on. Thanks for making me wrong...
      Originally Posted by mike gregory View Post

      Great story well done! It's refreshing to see that not all these thread title's lead to "now click here to see just how I did it" :p
      It won't be long now.
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  • Profile picture of the author masterjani
    what is your best recommended paid or media buying traffic?
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  • Profile picture of the author RabbitAnimate
    great story!! but just asking, if you lost 80% of your earning, you still have those 20%, is that pretty much ?, and for your past golden years, did you did you not investing anything ? where did the money go ?
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  • Profile picture of the author BamaGuy
    Congrats on the job well done! Prediction: 2 weeks later we see a WSO. Lol.

    Keep up the great work!
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  • Profile picture of the author rmolina88
    Awesome story and great job getting away from google!
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  • Profile picture of the author paul nicholls
    well done tom for working to get it all back

    SEO is certainly a risky game, that's why I got out of it over a year ago

    Having your own products to sell is way more profitable that's for sure

    Paul
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  • Profile picture of the author anwar001
    First of all, nice and inspiring story. There are more than one lessons for internet marketers to derive from your story:

    1. Don't give up. Keep trying.
    2. Every adversity also brings about with it potential for something new and much bigger.
    3. Don't put all eggs in one basket. Diversify.
    4. Google is not a reliable traffic source, specially with all the games it is playing from the past 1 year.
    5. Paid traffic and product creation are very good avenues which affiliates should look into. You can make a huge amount of money with these. If you are not trying them, you are missing out on very good long-term business models.
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  • Profile picture of the author Simon74
    Well done Tom and good luck for the future.
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  • Profile picture of the author eternalwarrior
    That's an awesome come back. Hope you will release a WSO soon
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  • Profile picture of the author Deepak Media
    In a way, if there was no panda or penguin, you would never have tried paid traffic sources and the awesomeness of it. Challenges makes us stronger. !

    Good for you.

    And good for us since we need not go through it again.

    But some people are still attracted to "free" traffic from SEO and they pay the price with YEARS of their time
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  • Profile picture of the author danfac2012
    Very inspring and appreciate your success story that keep many of us motivated!
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  • Profile picture of the author clever7
    Your knowledge after working online for so many years was what helped you survive and triumph. Without this knowledge you wouldn’t know what to do.

    Welcome to the Warrior Forum!
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Welcome. Inspiring story. Glad to hear there's life after Google and you were able to rebound.
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  • Profile picture of the author erwin78
    Hi everyone,
    Nice story and inspiration!

    The traffic is king and don't relay on google!

    All the best and see you on top
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  • Profile picture of the author Sushiman1111
    Congratulations on your (regained) success. I'd also like to know about the media buying if you don't mind sharing. Have never done any of that myself.
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  • Profile picture of the author esuresh
    Welcome to WF. Thanks for sharing your story. Was good one.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dave90210
    I think you're incredibly lucky or full of crap. You just made some products and bought some ads now your back on top? I doubt you're telling the truth. I would say 99% of the people on here do this as a side gig and almost no one makes a living.

    I've been on here and other forums for years, made countless info products, programs, unique sites etc and purchased 1000's worth of traffic and made squat. I highly doubt you made anything or very little.

    I think he should show proof or someone should delete this thread!
    Originally Posted by SMB View Post

    Hi WarriorForum!

    I've finally decided to join this forum. My name is Tom. I said to myself the best way to introduce a new face around here would be to bring an awesome story with it. So, here it goes...

    I've had an Internet business for about 8 years now. It has changed over the years. Since 2008 my business has mainly been around 30 high volume sites that bring in most of their traffic from SEO. It was all affiliate based income, which was nice because I had no overhead. The business was doing well, earning well into six figures each year, and because of the little overhead I only needed 1 extra person to work for me.

    Long story short... Panda/Penguin crushed my business. I mean crushed.
    I lost 80% of my earnings over a 3 month span from April - June. I was devastated and frustrated. Almost even thought about getting a J.O.B.

    Over the summer I began to diversify my traffic more. Mainly using paid traffic, things like PPV, PPC, and Media Buying. I studied successful campaigns and copied them to the T, put my own twists on them, and came out on top. I moved away from an affiliate based income, and started to build my own products that I could control.

    This was the best move I have ever made.

    Now with my new paid traffic skills and my own products I'm bringing in 100% of that commission. I'm happy to say that 6 months after my devastating destruction that Google caused me, I finally replaced that income that I worked so hard for. Moral of my story, don't give up, don't put all your eggs in one basket, and keep your head up throughout the trouble times.

    Anyways.

    I'm Tom, and I'm a Trafficolic.
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      Originally Posted by Dave90210 View Post


      I've been on here and other forums for years, made countless info products, programs, unique sites etc and purchased 1000's worth of traffic and made squat. I highly doubt you made anything or very little.

      I think he should show proof or someone should delete this thread!
      Then It might be time for a career change.

      While i appreciate your ignorance, I'm here to learn from others, not here to prove myself to random people on the Internet. The close people to me in my life can see my success and experience it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bisturi
      Originally Posted by Dave90210 View Post

      I think you're incredibly lucky or full of crap. You just made some products and bought some ads now your back on top? I doubt you're telling the truth. I would say 99% of the people on here do this as a side gig and almost no one makes a living.

      I've been on here and other forums for years, made countless info products, programs, unique sites etc and purchased 1000's worth of traffic and made squat. I highly doubt you made anything or very little.

      I think he should show proof or someone should delete this thread!
      It's fine, let him elaborate on the story.

      We can learn from others' stories, even if it is learning how to pick a liar/shiller
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  • Profile picture of the author napoleonfirst
    One of the best lessons from your story is that:

    1. Do not put your eggs only in one basket
    2. The SEO traffic is not reliable for long term success
    3. Learn ppc, ppv and media buying techniques selling your own products.

    Diversification is the key point here. Your story is very helpful and illustrative.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sheila Ross
    Newbies who are just making their way to IM (like me), they will get a lot of inspiration after reading this story. One thing is a fact, there is nothing as "Easy Money".
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  • Profile picture of the author jakejoh10
    That's an awesome bounce back! It's awesome how you recovered from such a devastating situation.

    Great inspiration.

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  • Profile picture of the author Bisturi
    Originally Posted by SMB View Post

    Hi WarriorForum!

    I've finally decided to join this forum. My name is Tom. I said to myself the best way to introduce a new face around here would be to bring an awesome story with it. So, here it goes...

    I've had an Internet business for about 8 years now. It has changed over the years. Since 2008 my business has mainly been around 30 high volume sites that bring in most of their traffic from SEO. It was all affiliate based income, which was nice because I had no overhead. The business was doing well, earning well into six figures each year, and because of the little overhead I only needed 1 extra person to work for me.

    Long story short... Panda/Penguin crushed my business. I mean crushed.
    I lost 80% of my earnings over a 3 month span from April - June. I was devastated and frustrated. Almost even thought about getting a J.O.B.

    Over the summer I began to diversify my traffic more. Mainly using paid traffic, things like PPV, PPC, and Media Buying. I studied successful campaigns and copied them to the T, put my own twists on them, and came out on top. I moved away from an affiliate based income, and started to build my own products that I could control.

    This was the best move I have ever made.

    Now with my new paid traffic skills and my own products I'm bringing in 100% of that commission. I'm happy to say that 6 months after my devastating destruction that Google caused me, I finally replaced that income that I worked so hard for. Moral of my story, don't give up, don't put all your eggs in one basket, and keep your head up throughout the trouble times.

    Anyways.

    I'm Tom, and I'm a Trafficolic.
    Interesting story.

    So how did you replace that income (250k) with products? That's a huge amount for someone who does products.

    Can you elaborate a bit more on the product part? What sort of products are we talking about? Were they related to your area of expertise (if you had any)? It's quite an amazing story, in all honesty, because that's the highest amount I've heard for someone doing products, and I'm talking of amounts I know are verified as I've heard other IMers claim higher figures that are made-up/lies; 250k in 6 months is big.

    I believe I talk on behalf of everyone when I say that we're thrilled to know a bit more on the product part and give us some motivation

    Thanks for any further sharing of your story.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikemeth
    I also got hit my same updates but as hard as you. I'm also looking into trying Media Buying but I have no idea where to start, do you recommend any course for that?
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  • Profile picture of the author SMB
    Products:

    Niche Software (mainly), Memberships, and tangible items (holiday season).

    Where to start?

    Media Buying is all about experience, it's about losing money to gain data and then using that data to optimize your campaigns. I lose about $1,000 on every new project just to gain some audience data to ensure I'm about to spend big dollars on the right site placements.

    $250k is not a lot of money. Maybe we come from different neck of the woods, but in the world of bigger business this is not a lot of money.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bisturi
      Originally Posted by SMB View Post

      Products:

      Niche Software (mainly), Memberships, and tangible items (holiday season).

      Where to start?

      Media Buying is all about experience, it's about losing money to gain data and then using that data to optimize your campaigns. I lose about $1,000 on every new project just to gain some audience data to ensure I'm about to spend big dollars on the right site placements.

      $250k is not a lot of money. Maybe we come from different neck of the woods, but in the world of bigger business this is not a lot of money.
      Perhaps $250k is not a lot of money is the fantasy world of IM forums where everyone claims to be a millionaire without backing up their figures. In the real world (verified claims), it is a lot of money considering you have basically no overheads, and considering it was made in 6 months and in your particular case; a case which you haven't really described despite the questions asked.

      So, after getting crushed by Google's algorithm, how did you suddenly adapt and make those products? Niche software? Are you a programmer or did you outsource it? I'm interested in how you adapted to this; we hear here a lot of rag-to-riches stories, which is wy people tend to remain skeptic to stories like yours.

      I, for one, would love to hear more on how you adapted
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        well, good for you SMB, i like hardcore stories like yours, never giving up is the name of the game.
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    • Originally Posted by SMB View Post

      Products:

      Niche Software (mainly), Memberships, and tangible items (holiday season).

      Where to start?

      Media Buying is all about experience, it's about losing money to gain data and then using that data to optimize your campaigns. I lose about $1,000 on every new project just to gain some audience data to ensure I'm about to spend big dollars on the right site placements.

      $250k is not a lot of money. Maybe we come from different neck of the woods, but in the world of bigger business this is not a lot of money.

      You opening post started well, now you just seem to be digging yourself a bigger and bigger hole...
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    • Profile picture of the author latestnewsheadline
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      Originally Posted by SMB View Post

      "Long story short... Panda/Penguin crushed my business. I mean crushed.
      I lost 80% of my earnings over a 3 month span from April - June. I was devastated and frustrated. Almost even thought about getting a J.O.B. "


      "$250k is not a lot of money. Maybe we come from different neck of the woods, but in the world of bigger business this is not a lot of money."
      Do you contradict your self with these sentence? ... or maybe, I didn't understand something...

      And just one more comment:
      For me, to lose something, means to have it first.
      When you don't earn as much as you planned, I'm not sure you can name it as loss.

      Otherwise, great and inspiring story. Thanks for sharing it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Nickro
        I can't belive there are so many people saying that 250.000 $ is not a lot for a big business , there are so many big business that would go under if they would loose 250.000 $ , what many of you dont realize is that even big busniesses have debts , bank loans ,employees , insurances , taxes etc, you can't just loose 250.000 and not have a problem , and also to get back on the story , you lost 250.000 of what? of potential income? or investement? if you were making lets say 250.000 a year why would you loose that couse google went panda on you? you don't re-invest what you make? or you are 18 and spend it all on gentlemen's clubs .
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  • Profile picture of the author jesisco
    Good job. We must never give up. Diversification is a real asset.
    Interesting story
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  • Profile picture of the author Isaiah Coe
    Congrats Tom, I'm glad you got back up on your feet
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  • Profile picture of the author getano
    Hey Tom,
    You story is very motivational.
    We all know we shouldn't put all the eggs in the same basket, but we are still doing it.
    I think the most difficult part for you was to figure out how to get a product supplier. Was it?
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  • Profile picture of the author daddykool
    Originally Posted by SMB View Post

    Hi WarriorForum!

    I've finally decided to join this forum. My name is Tom. I said to myself the best way to introduce a new face around here would be to bring an awesome story with it. So, here it goes...

    I've had an Internet business for about 8 years now. It has changed over the years. Since 2008 my business has mainly been around 30 high volume sites that bring in most of their traffic from SEO. It was all affiliate based income, which was nice because I had no overhead. The business was doing well, earning well into six figures each year, and because of the little overhead I only needed 1 extra person to work for me.

    Long story short... Panda/Penguin crushed my business. I mean crushed.
    I lost 80% of my earnings over a 3 month span from April - June. I was devastated and frustrated. Almost even thought about getting a J.O.B.

    Over the summer I began to diversify my traffic more. Mainly using paid traffic, things like PPV, PPC, and Media Buying. I studied successful campaigns and copied them to the T, put my own twists on them, and came out on top. I moved away from an affiliate based income, and started to build my own products that I could control.

    This was the best move I have ever made.

    Now with my new paid traffic skills and my own products I'm bringing in 100% of that commission. I'm happy to say that 6 months after my devastating destruction that Google caused me, I finally replaced that income that I worked so hard for. Moral of my story, don't give up, don't put all your eggs in one basket, and keep your head up throughout the trouble times.

    Anyways.

    I'm Tom, and I'm a Trafficolic.
    Brilliant, JUST Brilliant Tom!

    Like the bit about you *almost* had to get a J.O.B!

    Even better that you are now making B.A.N.K once more

    Similar thing happened to myself when I invested *heavy* in domain names in 85, forgot to renew some of them... not all! THEN bam... worth nothing, them 10 years later, most were changing hands at $500k + EACH!

    Got back into it, re-renewed the ones that I nearly lost, have not looked back since then...

    So can be done and can be done more than ONCE!
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  • Profile picture of the author Lisha5684
    Wow, great job SMB, and welcome to warrior forum!

    Nope, you cannot rely on Google. I have a love/hate relationship with Google. I love google chrome for my browser and I cannot stop using google for search, maps, and images. But they banned me from adsense very shortly after I signed up and I hate the fact that they're trying to take over the world (lol). I don't trust anything that tries to control everything and become a super power.

    However, my sites never saw a drop from panda or penguin and I think it's because I don't try so hard to cheat the system. If you are actually writing good content, I think Google can tell, so the big google updates will not hit your site like it does for all the super SEO'd websites/pages.

    And I agree with many others here that you cannot keep all your eggs in one basket. Having many traffic sources and many income streams is the best way to go because then if one fails, or even just drops for a period of time, it will affect you very little.
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  • Profile picture of the author sabluuk
    Great story Tom!
    I fully agree that 250k is not that much for a business.

    Maybe you could realize a course on media buying? Sounds like you know a lot about it
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  • Profile picture of the author Rbtmarshall
    Nice comeback.

    Approximately what were your expenses last year? and is that 250k projected earnings?
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Hi Tom, thanks for joining mate, and congratulations on the recovery of your business.

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  • Profile picture of the author kayfrank
    Thanks for sharing this. It just goes to show that you can't give up just change your angle and start again! As for creating your own products. This is diffinitely the thing that has changed my business. People on my list buy my products more because they know me!
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  • Profile picture of the author srodoks
    what is your best recommended paid or media buying traffic?
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  • Profile picture of the author kayode10
    What a great post, i really like it, that why is we need to look for the benefit every situation may carries, because every adversity carries the seed of equivalent or grater advantage, only if the person involves try to check the situation with open mind.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rachel McKnight
    Great job, Tom!

    I love inspirational stores like this. I agree that relying solely on SEO will be detrimental. I've moved on from free to paid traffic long ago and the results have been nothing short of outstanding.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikeac
    Congratulations Tom! I always love to hear about comeback stories from other entrepreneurs. It gives others and myself extra motivation to succeed!
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  • Profile picture of the author Austin E Anthony
    Glad you bounced back dude. Congrat. on your new system.
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  • Profile picture of the author mostafa999
    Very Inspiring, when I am going to have hard times in the future I will go back and read this post
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  • Profile picture of the author ivanadee
    wow...it's a good story. I know, it's not easy to re-start everything. The most important thing here is keep being positive. Love your story thanks for sharing
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  • Profile picture of the author SamKane
    Great comeback. i might be wrong here, but are you the former
    member LMC? haven't seen him posting around as much after panda. he also told us
    he was focusing on ppc.
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  • Profile picture of the author SMB
    I'll try to spend some time writing some information. Right now it's busy during the week so I can't spend as much time on here as I would like.

    Sam, no not me
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    i Like your story... (Y)
    and i hope this idea can change our life...

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  • Profile picture of the author SMB
    Because it seemed that people had a problem with my title.
    I think I may lurk around a bit more to feel out the culture of this IM forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rbtmarshall
    Am I alone on OP's questionable intent here?



    one Authority - pretty obvious isn't it?

    two Liking - look at the thanks in his original post, and there is no real content there for others besides the obvious that paid advertising works better than free optimization.
    step three scarcity

    three Scarcity - I'm busy guys, Ill get back to your questions later, in the mean time, keep this thread going by asking questions and liking my first post.




    I feel like I am reading an example unfolding from a supplement to Robert Caldini's book.
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