Would you promote this Clickbank product?

If you're preselling the product sometimes you can link directly to the order page with the vendors consent. However when doing so you don't set a cookie so if they return later you lose the sale. Personally I don't like the videos without the buy button either but I don't think that's the consensus of most people who are in the market for the product. If everything else looked good with the product I would promote it.

That's a problem. I wouldn't touch it. There are other red flags as well.

Yes that really sucks, especially when a visitor comes back again in future and have to sit thru 24minutes again. Does it have the popup window offering discount if u try to close its page?

LOL ... no, of course not. I wouldn't touch it. My subscribers, visitors and readers would start asking me when I last had a mental state examination, if I sent traffic to that kind of "sales page" (at least, the ones who didn't just unsubscribe or disappear would do that).

I'd keep an eye on it, though, because I'd expect that what's showing as the sales page now is probably part of a split-test (it's hardly likely to be the result of one, is it?!) and will be abandoned fairly soon, when the vendor realizes that he has no serious, pro-affiliates at all.

As rightly observed above, there are other red flags, as well.

The part about the unfinished affiliate center from 2010 would be enough to keep me shopping.

Emailing the vendor asking if you can send buying customers to his product from another page usually works fine, but make sure you test conversions. You may be surprised at your buyer results.

That's an easy No lol

I would not promote a product such as this one as the sales page does not have a professional presentation. Of course, the page does not have to be totally sleek but it should be decent and the videos should do what they are supposed to do.

I bolded the parts of your quote you should pay attention to. Why?

Because what you *think* about how the sales page *might* convert doesn't matter. At all.

At least, not before you send targeted traffic to the page and see how it converts.

You see, every now and then, someone posts pretty much this exact thread with quotes exactly like yours: "I didn't like it", "I prefer videos that I can control", "what's with the delayed payment button?", etc.

...and inevitably a bunch of warriors chime in and condemn the sales page or vendor saying "Yeah, I hate that too, what's the deal?!"

But here's the thing: There is a reason that the majority (yes, the majority, talk to a CB rep to vet this) of the top-20 CB products now have these things you claim "irk" you, like:

*Video sales pages (with little text)
*Videos set to only play or stop (no rewind, fast forward, etc)
*Delayed payment buttons

So why is that? It's very simple. (drumroll please...)

It's because the pages convert better with these settings and make more money!

Do you really think that these marketers aren't TESTING the sales page settings? Do you really think that the sales pages would look the way they do if they converted better with an instant payment button and a video that the customer could fast forward and rewind?

Of course not. Some of these marketers are making MILLIONS every year, you can bet your ass they are testing everything on their sales pages thoroughly. And at no point do personal assumptions come into play. They don't think "well I don't like videos I have to watch the whole way through, therefore it must be the same for everyone in my market."

No, they test endlessly and end up with the version that converts the best.

Want an example? Go to Michael Fiore/Chris Haddad's "Text Your Ex Back" sales page. It is currently the #9 product on CB. If you haven't viewed it before, you'll notice that there is no "rewind/fast forward" option and the payment button is delayed for MORE THAN A HALF HOUR. So if someone wants to buy his product, they have to wait and watch for more than a half hour before they have the opportunity to do so.

Yet somehow his company made more than $5 million off this product and 2 others on Clickbank last year...

The point? Do not blindly assume your personal preferences are the same as those of your market, and do not make the mistake of disregarding the sales page settings of those who make millions from them.

The ONLY sensible answer is to test. Then test some more. Then test again. It's not sexy, but it is the right way to go about things.

30minute long videos and 30pages of salesletters is so 1999.. I will never buy such products...

LOLOL. I have a similar page on my site. I have a 60 minute video with very little copy and a SUBSCRIBE button. But the button is ALWAYS visible.

Here's a link if you want to check it out: Video 1: How To Get on the Radio Tomorrow Morning »

People who really watch 20-60 minute videos all the way through are DEFINITELY going to buy. And the more information you can offer up front the more trust you gain from the potential buyer.

It's like an INFOMERCIAL on TV. You have to watch about 10 minutes of live demonstration and testimonials. Then they hit you with the number to call and order.

Or trade shows. Pitchmen who work trade shows like the "Home and Garden Show," and the "Southern Women's Show" give 30 minute presentations before they take a single dollar. By the time they are done...they clean up!

Finally, the only thing that really matters is HOW DOES IT CONVERT? What is the GRAVITY? Test it and see if you make money. If commissions come in, then it sounds like a winner!

Instantly I think "no I wouldn't promote it" because I'm convinced that people will get bored needing to watch a 24minute video and give up without buying but tbh that's just me talking, that shows nothing more than that I have a short attention span. What's to say that in your niche (depending on what it is) that people aren't easily distracted and would happily watch a 24 minute video all the way to the end before even considering clicking on the buy button.

I don't know because I've never tested something like this and you obviously haven't tested it either because you wouldn't be asking on here. So why not test it. If it works then fantastic you've hit the jackpot. If it doesn't work then no problem your subscribers have just watched an informative video and nothing (much) is lost.

A video to go for that length of time and you have no control over it is something that can be very annoying.

I wouldn't promote that product because it just doesn't sound right - 2010 - it is now 2013.

Here's a thought.....

TEST IT.

Nope, In my opinion the Site is under construction

There is no problem about the salespage not having long text but having just a video instead. A few other top selling Clickbank products are also using similar strategy. Just have a look at these pages -
Fat Loss Factor By Dr. Charles Livingston
Fat Burning Furnace

The above 2 weight loss products have high gravity and are popular ones from a long time. They obviously have redesigned their sales pages and now don't have a long sales letter - just video and little text.

However, they also have a buynow button placed below the video right from the start. Visitors don't have to wait for 24 minutes for the buy now button to appear.

So, the main problem with the sales page of the product you are promoting is that the buy now button is appearing so late, which can decrease conversion rates. Other than that, it shouldn't be a problem by just having a video and not long text.

What I would suggest is you contact their customer support or affiliate support and address this issue. Raise your doubts and tell them that you are thinking of promoting their product but have reservations due to this. If needed, show them examples of the above 2 webpages I have mentioned.Ask them to make a small change and have the buynow button at all times on the page.

See how they respond. If they don't respond nicely, then it might not be a good idea to promote their product anyway. If they don't reply back or support affiliates who are supposed to bring them customers, then they may not pay attention to their customers as well. So, stay away from them in such a case.

However, if you receive a favorable reply, then all should be well. Hope you find my answer useful.

Well it makes sense to put it at the end of the video. If someone is truly interested in purchasing a product, why would they want to fast forward or buy before the video ends?

It makes perfect sense to me because if the button is there all the time then it could sink into the background. When it pops up at the end the buyer will notice it and want to click.