Amazon Affiliates: Is it a Mistake to Focus on Competitive Niches and Products?

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Hello gang...
I don't usually start a lot of threads here, but this year I want to focus on affiliate marketing again, starting with Amazon products. I'm hoping that a few experienced affiliate marketers chime in...

I'm a believer in writing about something you're passionate about, as this allows you to deliver better content and not get burned out over time. The problem is that my passion is rather competitive...

Should I bother? Would you say it's okay to start a review site from scratch based on a saturated market and STILL be successful? Perhaps it's only okay as long as I don't rely solely on SEO and instead bring my traffic manually? I may have answered my own question here, but I'm looking for reassurance because I have gone down this road before and got nothing in return.

Do you care about competition/saturation at all when it comes to building your Amazon review sites?

Hasta la vista.

- Elvis
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  • Profile picture of the author lotsofsnow
    Amazon products are a good idea but
    you should definitely check how much competition there is.

    If a market is saturated it's probably not the best idea to enter that
    market especially if you are just starting out.

    It is much better to find a sub market or sub niche that is not
    completely saturated.

    You do want some competition but you do not want saturation.
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    • Profile picture of the author donhx
      Ever been to a horse race? If you want to make money, you bet on the long shot, not the favorite. Find a unique, high ticket item that gets a decent number of searches each month, then market your site like crazy.
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    Before Penguin, I did quite well in competitive niches so I think you should pursue them. Although it's harder rank for such niches, as the demand for products is higher it means you'll likely do better than more obscure niches.

    When you say manual traffic. Are you referring to things like guest posting and video?
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  • Profile picture of the author Elvis Michael
    Thanks for your replies so far.
    Yes, by manual I mean to promote my site via Yahoo Answers, forum posting and so on.

    I'm thinking that the moral of the story here is this: If someone is to promote manually (as described above) then competition is almost irrelevant. Competition matters ONLY when someone plans to depend primarily on SEO.

    At least this is what I keep telling myself, but I would love more counter arguments before taking on such a long journey. Why is this a "long journey?" Because my niche will be in general tech/hardware, so new reviews will never stop being published...

    Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author Maecenas23
      It really depends how competitive it is and how big your project will be.
      If you want to write about Kindle for ex. and make a 20 page website, than you shouldn't try unless you find a set of 2-3 very good keywords. ( there are competitive niches with uncovered keywords)

      If you have in mind to start a project which will have 100 pages in the first month, competitive niches can be a target to aim. Now, again it depends how competitive.

      If you need help, don't hesitate to PM me.
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  • Profile picture of the author ratracegrad
    I don't believe any market is ever saturated. There might be a lot of competition but even then there are people ranking #1 in that market. You could argue building a new gas station is a saturated market yet they keep building them. Sometimes they build them on all 4 corners of an intersection and they all get traffic. When you enter a market you choose how hard you hustle to get ranked highly.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kezz
    Why don't you set yourself up in such a way that you can go either way.

    I do think tight niches are the way to go for the record, but at the same time everybody's promotional style is different so it doesn't hurt to test things for yourself. So, why don't you hedge your bets like this.

    Start your site in the general tech/hardware category, but drill down and pick one sub-niche to focus on to begin with.

    Put your plan of manually generated traffic into action but just with this one smaller subset niche only.

    Then when you feel you have that first subset niche nailed, add a second. Keep going with this until you see a dip in performance, i.e. amount of earnings for the amount of time you're putting in.

    If you see a dip, then you know you need to scale back and stay focused on your smaller niches. If you never see a dip, then you know you can keep going as wide as you want.

    By taking this approach, you'll also be more likely to have a successful broad niche site in the end anyway, as you'll be getting yourself established and building traffic in a less challenging way.

    The only downside is you'd still need to have a domain that would work for your broad category even if you end up staying niche focused.

    However in my experience with a great permalink, content and on page SEO you can kick butt with traffic even if you are missing the keyword rich domain.
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  • Profile picture of the author moreno
    my advise: competitive niche means ther's money to be made .
    I run a travel site in a VERY competitive niche ...but i'm doing ok .
    I would look for KW with 10 / 100 search a months as secondary KW and then marketing them , while having competitive KW as the main one .
    Can you imagine 20 KW with low search toghetr how much money they potentially generate? and if you get into Google first page for such "low" KW with the time you are going to see results on more competitive KW too.
    Your manual traffic generation is the best go on , build pages for the low competition Kw.
    Sub niche are to consider , but don't be afraid just do it !
    Good luck nad remember 20 KW with 50 dayly search add to 1000 search a day ...not bad!
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    • Profile picture of the author Abinadi Suarez
      The way I do is that I pick a highly profitable product over the top best sellers in a particular category on amazon, and then I try to search for high demand keywords on the Google keyword tool. I check also that the keywords are highly profitable by looking at the amount of adwords competition and the CPC.

      After that I will look for the keywords that have weak competitors in the top 10 pages of Google (this is very good for SEO review sites) Let me tell you that we can find great keywords to promote highly profitable products. We just need to bring people to our site using low competition keywords and then offer to those people the greatest product in the market. We just need to connect the right keywords with a hot product. Please let me know if you need anymore advice about it...

      I hope we have been helping you out with this...
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        The mistake is not in choosing competitive niches and products, but rather in using exactly the same marketing methods as the competition. Generally, stiff competition is a strong indicator for some really big bucks to be made. There are dozens of ways to generate traffic and sales besides SEO and "review sites".

        For example, some highly successful Amazon affiliates are using article syndication, email, social media, webinars, podcasts, YouTube, online/offline advertising, direct mail, telemarketing, mobile communications, and even direct (face to face) sales. These methods can beat the competition all-to-hell.
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Originally Posted by myob View Post

          The mistake is not in choosing competitive niches and products, but rather in using exactly the same marketing methods as the competition. Generally, stiff competition is a strong indicator for some really big bucks to be made. There are dozens of ways to generate traffic and sales besides SEO and "review sites".

          For example, some highly successful Amazon affiliates are using article syndication, email, social media, webinars, podcasts, YouTube, online/offline advertising, direct mail, telemarketing, mobile communications, and even direct (face to face) sales. These methods can beat the competition all-to-hell.
          I couldn't have said it better myself...

          Can the market for, say, diet scales be saturated? I highly doubt it.

          Can the market for people looking for diet scales on Google using the keyword "best diet scale reviews" be saturated if you plan to offer the same top 5 models using the same template review site and the same review format? Relatively quickly, I would imagine...
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  • Profile picture of the author dsouravs
    Go for a very low competition keyword on your niche.

    If you ask me...Unless I am very good in SEO and marketing (which I am not) ... I don't think I should go to a too tough keyword.........

    The site wont come in page 1 in Google and hence no sale ....

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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Diablo2 View Post

    Is it a Mistake to Focus on Competitive Niches and Products?
    No ... but it's typically a big mistake to focus on competitive marketing methods.

    Originally Posted by Diablo2 View Post

    Do you care about competition/saturation at all when it comes to building your Amazon review sites?
    I don't really believe in saturation, and am not really concerned about competition, with my own two Amazon-specific sites, because I'm not trying to attract any SEO traffic to either of them.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Alves
    High competition shouldn't prevent you from creating Amazon review sites. If products are being advertised a lot in a market, it means that money is being made by people. You can make some of that money too. Your difference should be with the marketing. Drive paid traffic through different methods, and find the ones that give you a positive ROI. It's easier to sell a product that already gets a lot of sales than it is to sell a product that gets no sales. A product that is popularly branded in the marketplace is a benefit.
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  • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
    I'd say go for it. It's your passion, so you're most likely going to be able to stick with it. Even if you're not seeing initial success. That said, I'd spend some time on the side going after less competitive products and niches. You'll get some sales and, more importantly, experience.
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  • Profile picture of the author Elvis Michael
    You guys rock, thanks for taking the time to reply
    SEO has been drilled into our heads so much that we often forget it's NOT the only way to drive traffic to a site. Sure, SEO and good keywords are undeniably great, but these are also not the only things out there.

    I'll perform more research and go from there.

    Thanks!

    Elvis
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    • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
      Originally Posted by Diablo2 View Post

      You guys rock, thanks for taking the time to reply
      SEO has been drilled into our heads so much that we often forget it's NOT the only way to drive traffic to a site. Sure, SEO and good keywords are undeniably great, but these are also not the only things out there.

      I'll perform more research and go from there.

      Thanks!

      Elvis
      If you want some initial (and long lasting) traffic I'd suggest joining a handful of high traffic forums in your niche. Add a link to your site / product / whatever to your sig and make a few posts on each forum on a daily basis. Eventually you'll start to see some pretty targeted traffic flow in from your sig link.

      You may already know this, since you're posting here. But it's surprising how many people ignore forum posting as a way to drive really, really targeted traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author raffman999
    I've had more success going after big niches with best selling items and large volume of sales. The thing is, for all there is more competition, it stands to reason that there are also more keywords, more products and more buyers in the bigger niches; so bigger more popular niches aren't always necessarily more difficult to rank and sell in then smaller, more obscure ones.

    There's no substitute for a hot product, good keyword research and quality content.

    Hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author Manoj V
    "Is it a Mistake to Focus on Competitive Niches and Products?"

    Yes, it is - if you enter a competitive niche or promote a product with high competition and don't know how to outrank your competition.
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    • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
      Originally Posted by Max P View Post

      "Is it a Mistake to Focus on Competitive Niches and Products?"

      Yes, it is - if you enter a competitive niche or promote a product with high competition and don't know how to outrank your competition.
      Disagree a little. There are still plenty of keywords in competitive niches that don't have a ton of competition themselves. But these may be harder to find and / or don't drive as much traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    Originally Posted by Diablo2 View Post

    Would you say it's okay to start a review site from scratch based on a saturated market and STILL be successful?
    Sometimes. Even in a saturated market, it's sometimes very easy to locate low-competition products to promote.


    Perhaps it's only okay as long as I don't rely solely on SEO and instead bring my traffic manually?
    My Amazon sites rely almost entirely on SEO and I do well.


    Do you care about competition/saturation at all when it comes to building your Amazon review sites?
    I prefer to target niches that consist of lots of individual low-competition products. That said, I'm involved in some very high-competition niches and still do well.
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