well, keep it up. and remember: more traffic means more money.

I don't have a high regard for solo ads from the information I know. My first goal has always been to produce something worthwhile, so much so that people who see it for the first time will be likely to come back again. When you send out to lists and people are not responding positively, stop! Go back and think about quality.

If your only goal is solo ad sales, this is likely to be a difficult road. However, building quality over a longer period of time (years) will be SO much more worth it.

I made my first dollar with List Building pretty fast since I had an OTO with my squeeze page and it took my funnel about 6 months before I was able to make a living off it.

You may not really see results until you begin to hit 2000+ subs and it will happen much later in your sales funnel around 2-3 months down the line or more.

Make sure to provide good and relevant offers along with tips and freebies. Also make sure to respond to your subscriber's emails since they will be your long term customers.

I've been using solo ads from reputable sellers and it's been working great for me, but I'm also branching out into other ways of getting traffic like forum marketing, social media, and most important (where the BIG money is), product creation.

If you are buying from a reputable person's BUYER'S list, you should be able to make money if you have a decent funnel set up and a good auto-responder series in place. However, if you are just getting rehashed freebie seekers, you aren't going to make any money. You may be able to use your newly built list to do ad swaps and continue to build (at no cost). The key is a buyer's list. I built a 900 person list through CPC and solo ads and made less than $100 from my list in about a year before I learned my lesson on seeking out a buyer's list.

You need to start with a small test solo. If it works out, then order more. I bought a small one last week from a new vendor (new to me and relatively new to safe-swaps) who had a good rating but more than half of the clicks resulted in me being spammed by the person who clicked link in my solo ad. I only bought 40 clicks but I got 20+ spam IM message back to my email address from these people. Won't be using that vendor again.

I've been list building from the very beginning (6 years ago next month)

I made close to $300 my very first week, and almost $3,000 my very first month online, since then my sales have more than doubled every single year.

If you doing list building right it should start to produce you money right away not in months, you should be giving them great value right from the beginning and also making offers right from the beginning.

I also use to hate solo ads, but now I love them, just like anything there is a right way to use them and a wrong way. I recently turned $390 into $3,540 with about 10 solo ads.

I have a very powerful sales process that helps them with their problems that is the number one most important part, then lowers their defenses, builds trust, then I make an offer.

my list earns me very good money, but I also understand they are not just a list, they are real people who are having problems who are coming to me for help. I help them with those problems before they even see an offer, I continue to help them even more, so when it's time to make the offer usually about every 2 weeks, the conversions are though the roof, and they are very happy with the purchase they made

I've used a lot of ppc for list building over the years..

I usually have at least one $47-77 sale immediately after 100 clicks (30-40 opt-ins). if not, there's something seriously wrong that needs fixing..

But this is very dependent on your traffic source, their mind set, the offer(s), etc.. it might not be fair to compare your opt-ins with those made from ppc.

Well, one of the best things about a list is that the value per subscriber is awesome, as some list. owner claim $5+ per list member. Of course, you need to gain the confidence of each member of your list to get the most out of it.

With my experience I would say stay away from PPV and Ezine solo ads. Even if you have a kick-ass landing page and a good offer the PPV traffic just doesn't convert, at least for me it didn't. I recently just got done with a few solo ads from Ezine in the IM niche and it was a waist of money. Only got a few clicks and about 9 subs, at least I got subs! I'll be getting a solo ad published in Feb. from safe-waps. Hope this one works out better. Just don't give up and don't waist money like it did on PPV and Ezine.

BTW- If anyone has gotten subs from Ezines and PPV id like to hear your methods

Yes it does depend on the quality of the sellers list and it also depends on the product/products are offering.

When you are doing ad swaps make sure that the product of your ad swap partner is applicable to your list. It is best if you swap with someone that has an evergreen product. Make sure that the product is not an old PLR ebook or report that is not relevant or otherwise you will burn your list very quickly.

I don't know which way you plan on going, but I need to echo a few smart warriors who have gone before me. If this is about sales you will always be burning your list. Without good retention and value that actually makes a difference you are nothing more than a CPA affiliate to vendors.This is not good for long term business growth or cost efficient advertising.

If the quality and value are there you will be able to lead your readers to higher end items that provide more value and they will love you for it.

A good affiliate is a middleman that both parties love. Vendors and customers. If you scream buy this they will quickly move on and attach themselves to one of the follow-ups from someone who does offer serious value.

Any one had success with solo ads?

I could try that too in the future jaja

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wow a 400click solo ad. My advice is to start small with solos. Even if you have money to burn, I would buy clicks in smaller chunks.

As said above you should've tried to buy the ads in smaller amounts to see how your squeeze page converts and tweak it accordingly.

Also i recommend Igor as a solo vendor, he delivers great traffic.

I want to share with you the good and the bad. List building is a massive part of my business, but it hasn't always been a "walk in the park."

There are actually many decent companies out there who provide the service called "autoresponder email list building services" - AKA what you need to start building your list. I've used most of them. I highly recommend you go with Aweber. Aweber is the "Daddy" of them all. They are not only the biggest, in my opinion they have the best customer support. More importantly, just about every WordPress plugin on the Internet today integrates with Aweber. This is very important for a lot of reasons, one of them being that you will start wanting to use some list building tools and you need your autoresponder to integrate smoothly, which Aweber will do.

Try Aweber for yourself, they have a promotion where you can get started for about $1.00!

My best advice: Be personal with your mailing list. Make sure the majority of the email content that you send out is helpful, such as useful free resources. Then, once you build a trust with the people, then you can try to sell to your list.

I made my first sale via list building. I was offering a $19 ebook and told my 63 lead list that they can get 50% off the product. Woke up in my college dorm room with 2 sales the next morning. I skipped class and rewarded myself with some panini's for the day.

I would recommend building your own list from your own traffic source and not relying on solo ad providers sending visits to your squeeze page , not putting anyone down that deal in "blasts" but for someone who is new, they could potentially burn through a lot of cash trying out different providers and ending up with very little confirmed on their list

It depends where you get your solo ads from for example I have bought 100 click solo ads and made 8 sales with a load of opt ins but then I have bought 500 clicks and made 1 or 2 sales and not many opt ins.

As mentioned above I would give PPC a try also as you will get fresh leads and they can be hungry, I tend to use both solo ads with the solo ad providers I am happy with and PPC with quite good results.

What is the average CPC in yahoo?

I feel it will be more practical to have several traffic generation methods that drive traffic to the website so that I will not be affected if ever one source is cut off. Different people have different squeeze page and sales funnel, so I think the main key is to test it out. What works for one person does not mean that it will work for another people.

These 5 thinsg are vital if you are looking to build a list

A quality free offer

Your own front end product which you sell for less than $17

A good number of emails set up

A sales page/OTO page that converts fairly well

A strategy for generating regular leads into your list every single day whether it's free or paid traffic

With 90 subs already you should have made some sales.. You should fix your autoresponder sequence before you continue to buy solo ads.

You should build a squeeze page that provides a free product after opt-in, but also have an OTO so you could make some initial money back after they optin. Solo ads are great for initial traffic, ad-swaps work well aswell. You do not want to do too many ads swaps though because after too many ad swaps, the members on your list will be apart of too many other lists.
Product creation is the key to building a buyers list aswell.

Hope this helps ~

what are you using to build your list? we mostly build ours through twitter and add around twenty new subscrbers per day although it started slower than that its just a matter of keep working at it and the list grows. we got our first sale at around 50 but the sales become more frequent once you get around 500 and the more your list grows the more sales you get, it took us around four months to hit 50 but then it started to grow more quickly.

Guys what you been doing to build your list other then swapping & buying from someone who is in solo business?

I have a squeeze page, thank you page, download page for a give away, how do I get traffic to my site?

I like to only use solo ads with buyers, as I know the quality is always there.

I prefer building a list from people who read my articles, check out my blogs and watch my videos. I don't receive nearly the number of subscribers, but those readers remember me and recognize my emails.

I've done solos, PPC, banner ads and other paid sources, but subscribers from my blogs are the most responsive. I haven't focused on buyers yet, so that could be better. I simply prefer spending most of my time generating content instead of tapping into other traffic sources ... I just enjoy creating content ... even if it costs me in the long run (I'm in this to do something I like doing).

One thing not mentioned, and I think it will be very relevant to the OP, is how to continue engagement after the thank you follow up message with the link to the free offer.

I just started building a list and the follow up sequence so far just 3 messages, are hardly getting opened, around 10-15%. Hard to guage how good your sales funnel is doing when a large majority of your list don't see it.

Any thoughts on that as well?

I am on my 3rd attempt to build a list
First time I got it to 100 subs easily enough through solo ads but didnt have an oto or even a follow up series (yea I know)
Second time I had a follow up series but only got a few subs using free methods and no sales
This time I have set up an OTO
Squeeze page converts at between 40-50% if traffic is rightly targeted (they generally now from the advert what they are getting)
Only started properly promoting it yesterday will see how it goes

What rate of sales on my OTO should I expect

Very good thread going on here guys - I just started a new email list and def picked up some points Perhaps I'll use some of that extra PPC money lying around as a freebie from google and grab some more opt-ins

Building a list is one of the most important things to do for the long term success online. After people opt into your list offer them a one time offer (OTO) to try and make some money from some of your subscribers.

List building is really all about relationship building. When people trust you they will buy from you. Unfortunately most marketers go for the numbers and rather than bothering to build the quality of relationship that makes people WANT to buy from you.

It's kind of like trying to get someone to marry you after the first date. They don't know you, don't trust you, and yet you are already asking something of them.

Romance them, finesse them, communicate with them regularly so you they can fall in love with you a little. Then you've earned the right to ask them for a kiss (a sale).

Honestly, I get totally annoyed when I sign up with someone and the only thing they ever send me (after their sign up giveaway) is offer after offer. I'm just a dollar sign to them. I won't buy from them but I will hit the unsubscribe link.

List building should not be about building a flock of sheep that we can 'fleece' whenever we need a buck. It should be about building a group loyal and trusting followers.

When you've done that even a small list can bring in handsome profits.

So my advice, focus on building a quality devoted list rather than the big numbers. Besides, once the word gets around you list is actually worth subscribing to you might see your numbers take a healthy jump.

Sorry for the sermon and rant but I just had to kick in my 2 cents worth.

Ernie G

As I said above I am currently trying to build my list up and am testing a couple of paid traffic sources
I was having a good CTR yesterday but it has drooped down significantly today
I had changed banners in order to see which was more effective may change back now

The traffic is highly targeted and is converting at a rate of between 33-40% which I am happy about
I dont think the company I am uses to send traffic can send enough to make it worthwhile is the long run but if I can keep the conversion rate at that level with higher traffic sources I would be happy

My optin page is back up to 50% conversion rate with my ad having a 1% CTR
Traffic is very targeted but there isnt a lot of it on the network I am using so will have to try other sources
Which I'll be doing next week



My short term goal with it is to send about a 100 people a day to my page get 40% optin rate and get about 10% of those (4) to buy my oto currently priced at 10$
Is that achievable

How are these things with your list so far? Any sales out of that solo ad yet?