LP, Traffic, Affiliates, Hops = no sales (Clickbank)

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Hi Warriors,

This is the site: (edited: read down)

New site, new product, affiliates sending 50 + hops per day for over a month and so far... 1 sale.

This is a go for it or sell it now site. So i really need to focus on what's missing or wrong in this equation. Last 4 weeks I've changed the salespage 4 times and no increase in sales.

Warriors, do your best and criticize it.

Thank you,
Fernando
#affiliates #clickbank #hops #sales #traffic
  • Profile picture of the author hjalte81
    Is this your own product?
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  • Profile picture of the author Hamida Harland
    This is from the point of view of a potential customer rather than a marketer (I buy alot of weight loss stuff).

    First of all is Nick Ornomidis really a Hollywood trainer (or just a pen name)? The reason I ask is that people will actually look this guy up, and the only mention of him is with regard to this product. Potential buyers will want to know his credentials, and to be honest if he'd trained movie stars and the rich and famous there probably would be more info about him on the Internet.

    Secondly, there's only one measly testimonial. Sure there are some before and after pictures but these could be taken from anywhere. Weight loss is one particular niche where people want to sell ALOT of social proof - therefore you need to have detailed testimonials and weight loss success stories. Get down to the nitty gritty - how many inches, pounds etc has each person lost.

    You talk about a proven, breakthrough system and secrets etc. but you'll need to give your potential buyers at least some information about what this is about. People want to know what they'll have to do - how long will they have to spend exercising, what will they have to eat, what will the cost be (monetary, time etc)

    Where are the benefits? I actually see no benefits at all except you mention a 'better body'. Without benefits then there's no reason for anyone to whip out their credit card.
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    • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
      Originally Posted by Hamida Harland View Post

      This is from the point of view of a potential customer rather than a marketer (I buy alot of weight loss stuff).

      First of all is Nick Ornomidis really a Hollywood trainer (or just a pen name)? The reason I ask is that people will actually look this guy up, and the only mention of him is with regard to this product. Potential buyers will want to know his credentials, and to be honest if he'd trained movie stars and the rich and famous there probably would be more info about him on the Internet.

      Secondly, there's only one measly testimonial. Sure there are some before and after pictures but these could be taken from anywhere. Weight loss is one particular niche where people want to sell ALOT of social proof - therefore you need to have detailed testimonials and weight loss success stories. Get down to the nitty gritty - how many inches, pounds etc has each person lost.

      You talk about a proven, breakthrough system and secrets etc. but you'll need to give your potential buyers at least some information about what this is about. People want to know what they'll have to do - how long will they have to spend exercising, what will they have to eat, what will the cost be (monetary, time etc)

      Where are the benefits? I actually see no benefits at all except you mention a 'better body'. Without benefits then there's no reason for anyone to whip out their credit card.
      Hi Hamida,

      Yes, its a pen name, the original product was developed by a friend, he's a certified personal trainer. I realize how dumb this idea was, cause i can simply show my real friend and he has no problem with it; i will re-do all product until the end of this week and show him at sales page with some pictures/video etc. I have a new name for the product and i will forget this stupid idea. Live and learn.

      New sales page will be focused on benefits + pictures + videos + testimonials (guess i can ask his customers).

      @eshannon: All my PPC efforts are the same = no sales.

      @ProductCreator: Checked!

      @jason: Checked!

      Thanks again Warriors, really appreciate the feedback. I feel ashamed of all the stupid tactics i was using with this product: learned my lesson.

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      • Profile picture of the author Hamida Harland
        Originally Posted by Fernando Veloso View Post

        Thanks again Warriors, really appreciate the feedback. I feel ashamed of all the stupid tactics i was using with this product: learned my lesson.

        Kudos to you, mistakes aren't a problem as long as you learn something from them and correct them. We've all been there don't worry :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author eshannon
    Fernando - hows it converting via your own ppc? That's all that really matters at this point, cause you have no clue which affiliates are sending you those 50 hops, and how they're getting those 50 hops. It could be garbage traffic for all you know.
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonl70
    some of the things that came to my mind

    a) don't like the dirty reddish/orange headlines. They look dull.
    b) trainer to the stars, but no names or testimonials from any of them. There's no congruency there...
    c) trainer to the stars, but pics of normal people (a way around this would be to lead in with something like "yes, it works for 'real' people, who can't afford personal nutritionists and trainers")
    d) no testimonials from those before/after pics
    e) no full name in the testimonial - when I see this I usually think it's fake.
    f) no visuals to the sales copy that pull me into it. It just looks like it will be a chore to read.

    Sales copy is tough to write.. I recently wrote an ebook, and the sales copy is proving to be much tougher to write. I've done some direct marketing in the past, so it's not entirely new to me, but it still takes a lot of work and mental cycles (at least for me).
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  • Profile picture of the author JustVisiting
    Pen names are fine, a lot of folk use them.

    However...claiming the guy is a holly wood trainer when he isn't ??

    I'd pull the site and be more honest with version 2.

    I hope your first customer isn't an attourney.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randy Bheites
    Ok, scanned the page (you have two seconds to grab me):

    Blahblahblah right off the bat. Do I care? No. Grab my eyeballs, I'm a scanner not a reader.

    Nothing about the page excites me to read - flat layout, flat graphics, flat copy.

    Looks like every other lose weight fast affiliate LP out there.

    What's in it for me? Nothing compelling so far. What do I get for my money? A little confusing... an ebook? Oh, a bunch of ebooks. And a membership. To what? Does the site have a weightloss community? Am I getting 1-on-1 coaching? Ongoing support for my weight loss struggle? I don't know, it's not really clear.

    So, a bunch of books and a membership to something, I don't really know what. Wow, I've spent a lot more than 2 seconds already, and I haven't seen a single compelling reason to buy... see ya.

    (brutal, but that's your average surfer right there)
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  • Profile picture of the author Frank Bruno
    Don't throw the towel in just yet.....

    My opinion is that you need much longer sales copy and then work on testamonials as well as some cosmetic things on the sales page and it will pull much better for you.

    Frank Bruno
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    • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
      Originally Posted by Frank Bruno View Post

      Don't throw the towel in just yet.....

      My opinion is that you need much longer sales copy and then work on testamonials as well as some cosmetic things on the sales page and it will pull much better for you.

      Frank Bruno
      Working on it all day, and until the end of the week i will have a (new) product.

      And I won't throw the towel, trust me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    @Randy: guess you just used your IM eyes, not a average surfer, but thats fine. I get your point.

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    • Profile picture of the author Randy Bheites
      Originally Posted by Fernando Veloso View Post

      @Randy: guess you just used your IM eyes, not a average surfer, but thats fine. I get your point.

      No, not really. I buy a lot of things online. Many people are scanners, and if your layout and copy doesn't entice a scanner to read, they click away.
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