HUGE SEO COMPANY SCAM

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So I mistakenly signed up with a huge seo company for one of my sites. I always like giving seo companies a whack at some of my sites. Its hard to find someone good. So i'm always testing.
So anyway I'm pretty sure they aren't doing anything and its been 3 months.
I just got emailed by a guy who says that he works for them in billing. He says he hates them and wants to get my money back. So if i send him $150 bucks western union...him and his manager will work some magic and get my money back...also remove me from their records so it will look like I never existed.
He sent me a bunch of info on me and even my credit card number to prove himself to me.
They are based out of the Philippines....should I trust him? Anyone ever heard of this?
#company #huge #scam #seo
  • Profile picture of the author albert12
    Omg. Cancel your credit cards now and do a chargeback on the payment you made to them. This is way to fishy. Its 99% fraud.
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  • Profile picture of the author albert12
    AND DONT SEND ANY WESTERN UNION PAYMENT!!!!!!!!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    If you send via Western Union you absolutely cannot get it back. Common tactic used by scammers for this reason.
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  • Profile picture of the author owenlee
    Please do not send them anything and its best to cancel your CC too..the whole things does not make sense to me at all
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  • Profile picture of the author lovboa
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    Scammers love Western Union.
    Real businesses don't.
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  • Profile picture of the author taskemann
    Other people (Companies or not) should NOT have access to your full credit card number. They're not allowed to store that kind of information and they're not allowed to send such information via email either.

    So it's without a doubt a scam. Contact your bank immediately!
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  • Profile picture of the author BeeJay
    You obviously thought their email dubious enough to come and post here about it, so your gut is telling you this isn't legit.

    I'd trust your gut.
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    • Profile picture of the author anwiii
      you are posting about an seo company scamming you out of your money and you are going to send them more money? hahahahaha!

      that's the funniest thing i heard all day. thanks for the laugh.

      on a serious note, cancel all dealings with them and move on. are these guys on the warrior forum? who is this company? pm me. i am curious and so i don't get scammed myself
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  • Profile picture of the author Gengis
    Come on man, no offense but Internet Marketing is not a joke or a hobby..It's a real business so start treating it as such and use your brain.

    Of course this is a scam. No, you never send anyone money with western union because you will never see it again or hear from them.

    Charge back what you have paid if they have not produced what they charged you for and move on.

    Good luck

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  • Profile picture of the author Sue McDonald
    No I wouldn't be sending any money contact your credit card provider and see if you can get this money back.

    This would be throwing more money away in my opinion. Wonder how many people he has already gotten them to pay over the $150.
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  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    The only reason to send money through Western Union is to family or very close friends whom you trust implicitly. Done it a few times as a way to get money somewhere fast, in emergencies. Usually to send or receive overseas, often it's the easiest way.

    But yeah, you don't use it for business. Not wise at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author dodomat
    dont send him anything
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Originally Posted by burnz720 View Post

    So I mistakenly signed up with a huge seo company for one of my sites. I always like giving seo companies a whack at some of my sites. Its hard to find someone good. So i'm always testing.
    So anyway I'm pretty sure they aren't doing anything and its been 3 months.
    I just got emailed by a guy who says that he works for them in billing. He says he hates them and wants to get my money back. So if i send him $150 bucks western union...him and his manager will work some magic and get my money back...also remove me from their records so it will look like I never existed.
    He sent me a bunch of info on me and even my credit card number to prove himself to me.
    They are based out of the Philippines....should I trust him? Anyone ever heard of this?

    Actually, you're about to be scammed for real if you send that guy any money. Cancel your credit card immediately and get a new one.
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  • Profile picture of the author YasirYar
    As a general rule of thumb, when someone asks you payment via Western Union, it could be a glaring and huge warning sign for you. Real and established SEO companies have legitimate payment processors set up, and definitely Western Union is not one of them. Plus, with all the phishing scams happening these days, NEVER ever give out your cc details to a complete stranger!
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  • Profile picture of the author JerrickYeoh
    Once people know your credit card member which is top private details,
    please go make report because no matter what purpose they come to you no matter good or no good.
    Your info should not be explore out even their billing . Please don't paid money on that and report it .
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  • Profile picture of the author AverageGuy
    there is a reason scammers use western union. I do not deal with anyone who asks for using western union.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    I'm still amazed people still fall for such things.
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  • Profile picture of the author Oliver Williams
    Is this really a serious question?

    I would say more but everyone else here has already covered it.

    Western Union = Red Flag
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  • Profile picture of the author moneyman2010
    Yea..I would never send money with Western Union for a business transaction theirs know way to get a refund.Second any legitimate business should accept CC...
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  • Profile picture of the author miklanderson2
    The only people you should send money to via Western Union are people you know personally and are sending money to help out. No reputable business or business person uses Western Union as a payment processor...
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  • Profile picture of the author shawnirwin
    Just forget about that company!!!!!!!!
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    Please stop promoting your website in your posts.
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  • Profile picture of the author theemperor
    Everyone has picked up on the Western Union thing, and clearly it is a scam. But what if he is telling the truth?

    Then you are paying him $150 for him to steal money from his employer on your behalf. Not a wise thing to do.

    Either way handing him any money is a bad move. Cut your losses, cancel your credit cards, move on.

    Or if you want to have some fun - 419 Eater - The largest scambaiting community on the planet!
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  • Originally Posted by burnz720 View Post

    So I mistakenly signed up with a huge seo company for one of my sites... So anyway I'm pretty sure they aren't doing anything and its been 3 months... They are based out of the Philippines...
    Please PM the name of the company to me. I'm based in Manila and own a legitimate, government licensed and accredited 6-year old ICT outsourcing company. I'll ask the local authorities to check out this company, 'cause I just hate it when groups of locals do stupid things and tarnish the reputation of all other legitimate businesses here in our country, considering there are many legitimate startup local companies working hard to sign up international clients just to keep their businesses afloat, and when a large number of them goes down, then that's collectively a lot of unemployed Filipinos, which translates to a lot of local families that could suddenly lose their main livelihood...
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  • Profile picture of the author BurtL
    I live in the Philippines that's how things get done faster, pay off people. Corruption in the Philippines. Honestly, if he does work there, I have no doubt he can/will do it. But since you are not from here and can't deal with him face to face, don't do it.
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    • Profile picture of the author azmanar
      Hi,

      There is nothing wrong with Western Union. It is a legitimate service.

      I use Western Union to send monthly salaries to my researchers in China. I also use it to pay for stuff I buy from known suppliers there. Very fast, cheap and convenient.

      So, I'm using it ONLY for people I know and trust. When things are seriously messed up or undelivered accordingly, it is just a 4 hours flight away to rectify matters with them.

      My advice is, use Western Union in business when there are 3 criteria :
      => You know them
      => You trust them
      => You can reach them, easily.

      Otherwise, you're scr3wed.

      And I think you're about to be scammed, just like the others are saying.
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  • Profile picture of the author burnz720
    Why pm the name? This is an im forum so we are supposed to talk about it right? Its uswebsitebuilder.
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    • Profile picture of the author davezan
      Originally Posted by burnz720 View Post

      Why pm the name? This is an im forum so we are supposed to talk about it right?
      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...rum-rules.html

      The forum's rules may not make sense for a while, yet it's there for a reason.
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      • Profile picture of the author PR Wizard
        Oh man, please call your credit card company ASAP and cancel your card before this situation gets really bad. I would hate to see you lose serious money or have your credit destroyed. As many people have already said, Western Union is the scammers favorite method of payment. Good luck with everything..
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  • Profile picture of the author burnz720
    He sent me all the info on my credit card and info on my seo...they havent done a single thing he said. So I called the company to investigate and he is right. Total scam.
    Its not a business transaction. Did you read whats going on...its under the table to get me a refund.
    Thanks emporor. I suppose it would be stealing on my part. I was justifying it by the fact they stole from me...but your right...I should cut my losses.
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    • Profile picture of the author chuckharris
      Originally Posted by burnz720 View Post

      He sent me all the info on my credit card and info on my seo...they havent done a single thing he said. So I called the company to investigate and he is right. Total scam.
      Its not a business transaction. Did you read whats going on...its under the table to get me a refund.
      Thanks emporor. I suppose it would be stealing on my part. I was justifying it by the fact they stole from me...but your right...I should cut my losses.
      The real question is, are you sure this guy COULD even get your a refund? Too many questions, too many red flogs. Just stop is all now.

      Chuck
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  • Profile picture of the author burnz720
    Its not like some dumb email I got. Ive been asking him a ton of questions for a month. He has told me tons of info that only me and the company know. He even explained the sales tactics and how they hook line and sinker you on the sales call.
    So for all you who think this is a stupid question...you dont know the details. So how about you answer it with something productive or keep your pointless comments to yourself because its people like you who fill these forums with pointless junk.
    Then it takes me and other warriors more time to read through posts when we are already busy making money and dont have time to read through pointless replys.
    To the others with helpful replys...thanks for your thoughts and advice.
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  • Profile picture of the author denysapu
    Just a short opinion based on my long thought - it's not good to trust or send em the $150
    The way they call you also not convincing enough as a professional.
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  • Profile picture of the author burnz720
    Im not into gambling normally...but this one was really tempting. I told him I would send $75 first and the other 75 after he refunded me. I figured it would at least be a fun test even if I did get scammed. Besides...us IM's make more than $75 dollars before we even wake up in the morning right? So who cares if I do get scammed. It will be fun dinner table talk.
    But now my conscience is hit and I cant do it since I would be helping him steal.
    Good job emperor...you totally ruined my fun.
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    • Profile picture of the author denysapu
      Originally Posted by burnz720 View Post

      Im not into gambling normally...but this one was really tempting. I told him I would send $75 first and the other 75 after he refunded me. I figured it would at least be a fun test even if I did get scammed. Besides...us IM's make more than $75 dollars before we even wake up in the morning right? So who cares if I do get scammed. It will be fun dinner table talk.
      But now my conscience is hit and I cant do it since I would be helping him steal.
      Good job emperor...you totally ruined my fun.
      Ya, I think when "we" have more money might not be a bad thing to do. Just for a fun test
      Not a gambling though. A "lottery"
      upps
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      • Profile picture of the author bengirwb
        Quote:

        "Other people (Companies or not) should NOT have access to your full credit card number. They're not allowed to store that kind of information Other people (Companies or not) should NOT have access to your full credit card number. They're not allowed to store that kind of information . . ."

        I don't think this is correct.
        Amazon does this. I just punch the "buy" button without having to keep re-entering my card number.

        To me, that indicates that a company (Amazon) has stored that information.
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonl70
    well, the person offering to do this for you has already shown themselves to be of very questionable ethics...

    1 - he works for a company that he admits scams their clients.
    2 - he'll only "do the right thing" if you pay him to
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    I think that you are about to get scammed by them.

    Cancel your credit card right away or call your credit card company to let them know about this so that maybe they can block any transactions from them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Trent Brownrigg
    I agree with everyone who has basically said that it would be REALLY STUPID of you to send the money. It clearly looks to be a scam no matter how much details they might have about your situation or what they may have said. Don't do it! Move on.
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  • Profile picture of the author anwiii
    i don't think anyone was inferring that your question was dumb, but the question did show a lot of ignorance in this day and age where scams are abundant.

    i don't see it as stealing. i see it as getting your money back for services that weren't performed. but to send more money to someone who works for a company that has already scammed you is ridiculous. that's why you should cut your losses.

    if you know anything about seo, you can always blog about it, do some seo and ruin this companies rep where they wouldn't get as much business.....then you can tell them you will take down the blog if they do the right thing and refund you since they never did any work. if not, you still get satisfaction in doing something to get a little closure.

    i disagree with others that western union is making this whole deal shady. it's the fact that an employee of the company that took your money wants more money. i could care less the conversations you had. scams like this happen all the time and they last a while to set up the mark to send money after trust is built. $150 may not seem like a lot to you to try and get some of your money back, but in the philippines, that equates to over a weeks pay over there. that's a pretty big bribe. also, if this guy was on the up and up and had a good heart, he would try to do it for free for you. after all, he said he didn't like how the company does businesses but he is still working for them. everything smells like rotten eggs, not like roses.

    one thing you can do is tell people who this company is and some contact info. i know i would be willing to write the company on your behalf to put a little pressure on. i absolutely hate scammers.
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  • Profile picture of the author burnz720
    When he asked for the money in the begining he said its because his billing manager has to approve it and he accepts bribes. Obviously he has some kind of financial interest too though. If he is legit...they are obviously splitting it.
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      • Checked them out. The domain's registered to a "company" that's based in Van Nuys, California. That's what they also say in their website.

        What you can do now is to check out if they're actually a registered company in Van Nuys, California. This should be in the public records. Also check if they're accredited by the state of California to operate business in the state.

        Then, if you're based in the US, report your experience to the Internet scam authorities in your area, so they can contact the state of California's local Internet scam authorities to look closer at these guys.

        You mentioned they're based in the Philippines, but this may not be the case. They could perhaps be hiring a Philippine-based customer support service provider or a group of individual homebased subcontractor remote assistants to do customer support work for them...
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  • Profile picture of the author aceshigh888
    Originally Posted by burnz720 View Post

    So I mistakenly signed up with a huge seo company for one of my sites. I always like giving seo companies a whack at some of my sites. Its hard to find someone good. So i'm always testing.
    So anyway I'm pretty sure they aren't doing anything and its been 3 months.
    I just got emailed by a guy who says that he works for them in billing. He says he hates them and wants to get my money back. So if i send him $150 bucks western union...him and his manager will work some magic and get my money back...also remove me from their records so it will look like I never existed.
    He sent me a bunch of info on me and even my credit card number to prove himself to me.
    They are based out of the Philippines....should I trust him? Anyone ever heard of this?
    I think they just scammed another 150 that way. Cut ties
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  • Profile picture of the author schttrj
    The online world is FULL of scams!

    I was deceived many times when I was just starting out.

    Always make sure you have a way of getting back to them when you need to.

    In case of payments, why not use Escrow services?
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