How To Make An Email List!

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How To Make An Email List! - Tip #3

Create a "Landing" page!


Landing pages have always worked for many to gather emails for their email list.

If you visit many blogs around especially the larger ones, they will have a beautiful landing page that describes their services.

But mostly, they are giving you a legit reason for you to sign up with your email, reason being to receive updates right in your inbox.
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  • Profile picture of the author jipolis7
    Actually there are lots of ways. I have some unique ideas of creating quick email list very easily from video. Here's the details of it -

    How to Build your Email List using Youtube

    Youtube today is a important media to build the email list also. Instead of editing each of your videos, you can now easily insert short webcam clips or text-and-audio pieces in-between each video in the playlist.
    Try adding a 5-10 second introduction (or interstitial) prompting viewers to join your fan list on your Fan Action Page.
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    • Profile picture of the author GlenH
      And here's a sneaky trick...

      Don't have your optin form on the page....

      Instead put your optin form right inside the PDF.

      It works like this...

      - you create your report in PDF format.
      - You embed your optin form inside the PDF

      Now when visitors come to your site, they download your 'special report' PDF (no strings attached) BUT when they first open your PDF report they have to then optin to be able to read it.

      Following this strategy, I increased my optin by 147% compared to the usual .... optin before downloading approach.
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      • Profile picture of the author YasirYar
        Originally Posted by GlenH View Post

        And here's a sneaky trick...

        Don't have your optin form on the page....

        Instead put your optin form right inside the PDF.

        It works like this...

        - you create your report in PDF format.
        - You embed your optin form inside the PDF

        Now when visitors come to your site, they download your 'special report' PDF (no strings attached) BUT when they first open your PDF report they have to then optin to be able to read it.

        Following this strategy, I increased my optin by 147% compared to the usual .... optin before downloading approach.
        Thanks Glen, that seems to be a pretty nifty trick on list building. Will give it a shot and see if I'd increase my optin ratio.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dustin Lyle
        Originally Posted by GlenH View Post

        And here's a sneaky trick...

        Don't have your optin form on the page....

        Instead put your optin form right inside the PDF.

        It works like this...

        - you create your report in PDF format.
        - You embed your optin form inside the PDF

        AMAZZ-ZING!
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        • Profile picture of the author GlenH
          Originally Posted by Dustin Lyle View Post

          AMAZZ-ZING!
          I can also create and embed custom messages and images and integrate them with my optin forms.

          I can put the exact message I want.

          I even add customized message windows into my PDF's which work when the reader tries to close the PDF. So when they close it, they are then automatically redirected to any website I choose.
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          • Profile picture of the author Not So New
            That's great Glen,

            Are you using any special software to do this?

            Adding optin and exit page?

            Would definitely be interested in finding out more.

            Thx

            Shawn

            Originally Posted by GlenH View Post

            I can also create and embed custom messages and images and integrate them with my optin forms.

            I can put the exact message I want.

            I even add customized message windows into my PDF's which work when the reader tries to close the PDF. So when they close it, they are then automatically redirected to any website I choose.
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            • Profile picture of the author GlenH
              Originally Posted by Not So New View Post

              That's great Glen,

              Are you using any special software to do this?

              Adding optin and exit page?

              Would definitely be interested in finding out more.

              Thx

              Shawn
              Yes I have been.

              I developed software a couple of years ago. Viral PDf Master
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      • Profile picture of the author ajbarnes777
        Originally Posted by GlenH View Post

        And here's a sneaky trick...

        Don't have your optin form on the page....

        Instead put your optin form right inside the PDF.

        It works like this...

        - you create your report in PDF format.
        - You embed your optin form inside the PDF

        Now when visitors come to your site, they download your 'special report' PDF (no strings attached) BUT when they first open your PDF report they have to then optin to be able to read it.

        Following this strategy, I increased my optin by 147% compared to the usual .... optin before downloading approach.

        Sneaky indeed! I got to give that a try.

        Thanks for the tip!
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      • Profile picture of the author retsced
        Originally Posted by GlenH View Post

        And here's a sneaky trick...

        Don't have your optin form on the page....

        Instead put your optin form right inside the PDF.

        It works like this...

        - you create your report in PDF format.
        - You embed your optin form inside the PDF

        Now when visitors come to your site, they download your 'special report' PDF (no strings attached) BUT when they first open your PDF report they have to then optin to be able to read it.

        Following this strategy, I increased my optin by 147% compared to the usual .... optin before downloading approach.
        I'm sure your opt ins have increased Glen, but, are you not planting a seed in the mind of that person. I mean, if I downloaded your book and had to opt in to read it (after going through the trouble of downloading it) I would be very wary of anything you send me in future. It's a sneaky trick alright - but one that can easily back fire. You say "no strings attached" - but there are, this cannot help with building trust.

        What you're essentially doing is fooling the same people who you hope to build a relationship with. The way I see it: If you want to start off on the right foot with a prospect, you MUST not play any sneaky tricks at all with that person, especially in the beginning of the relationship.

        Now, if you let them download the report and put an opt in form inside that they have the OPTION of using, then that's a strategy I'd be willing to implement. I'm sure if the report is high quality (which it should be) then they would have no problem opting into your list with a little push.

        Just how I see it though.
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        • Profile picture of the author GlenH
          Originally Posted by retsced View Post

          I'm sure your opt ins have increased Glen, but, are you not planting a seed in the mind of that person. I mean, if I downloaded your book and had to opt in to read it (after going through the trouble of downloading it) I would be very wary of anything you send me in future. It's a sneaky trick alright - but one that can easily back fire. You say "no strings attached" - but there are, this cannot help with building trust.

          What you're essentially doing is fooling the same people who you hope to build a relationship with. The way I see it: If you want to start off on the right foot with a prospect, you MUST not play any sneaky tricks at all with that person, especially in the beginning of the relationship.

          Now, if you let them download the report and put an opt in form inside that they have the OPTION of using, then that's a strategy I'd be willing to implement. I'm sure if the report is high quality (which it should be) then they would have no problem opting into your list with a little push.

          Just how I see it though.
          Its' the exact opposite to what you're saying in fact..

          With the conventional 'squeeze page' model, you're trying to get your prospect to optin BEFORE they can download the free whatever you're offering ( a report etc).

          Think about the whole psychology of that for a minute from the prospects point of view....

          You're asking a complete stranger who has just landed on your 'squeeze page' for the first time to give you their valuable contact details in exchange for a free whatever.

          What would they do that?

          Why should they even trust you?

          You haven't done one thing to gain their trust in the first place.

          They don't know you from Adam, and for all they know you could be the biggest scam artist on the internet ready to bombard them with endless scam emails.

          With my strategy, the prospect can download my free report, no strings attached, no optin required. Nothing.

          So immediately I've done what I promised,....I've let them download my 'free whatever' no strings attached.

          So straight away, I've created some trust in their mind, so now their guard is lowered.

          As I see it, so many marketers are hung up on the 'squeeze page' way, that they have blinders on to thinking outside the square.

          The fact is you can't just rely on only one strategy as being the be-all-end-all to building your lists, because it's not.

          Sure the 'squeeze page' will always work. But it's just one strategy
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          • Profile picture of the author clintmyers
            Yes, I agree with Glen. There is nothing sneaky about this.
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          • Profile picture of the author clintmyers
            Actually after thinking about this more, I like this even better. You have to get around people's psychological barriers. Everyone is getting more and more jaded and immune to squeeze pages.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by GlenH View Post

        And here's a sneaky trick...
        Yes indeed ... "sneaky" being very much the operative word!

        Is this really how you want your subscribers to think of you, Glen - as someone who deliberately fools them, in order to get them to download something onto their computers without telling them openly and up-front, as other marketers do, that you require their email address in exchange?!

        Perhaps your opt-ins have increased from doing this, but there are reasons why "the biggest list" and "the biggest income" are two such very different things. And sneaky tricks like this are among them.

        Originally Posted by retsced View Post

        What you're essentially doing is fooling the same people who you hope to build a relationship with. The way I see it: If you want to start off on the right foot with a prospect, you MUST not play any sneaky tricks at all with that person, especially in the beginning of the relationship.
        This. Exactly. This comment "says it all".
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          "Sneaky" is indeed the ideal word to describe this trick.

          Glen, in your follow up post, you talk about building trust by delivering what you promised - a no-strings download. It's the exact truth. Good for you...

          Now, when I want to see the content of the download - the reason I downloaded the file in the first place - I get the opt-in form your offer told me I wasn't going to see. Do you still think my trust level is all that high? Or if I do opt in, am I going to be watching for the next "sneaky trick"?

          It reminds me of then-President Bill Clinton looking dead-on into a TV camera, wagging his finger at the whole country, and proclaiming "I did not have sex with that woman..." The exact truth, if your define "have sex" with coitus.

          Slick Willie survived that scandal, but his main legacy is always going to be his 'inappropriate relationship' with an intern and a cigar.
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        • Profile picture of the author adsassist
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          Yes indeed ... "sneaky" being very much the operative word!

          Is this really how you want your subscribers to think of you, Glen - as someone who deliberately fools them, in order to get them to download something onto their computers without telling them openly and up-front, as other marketers do, that you require their email address in exchange?!

          Perhaps your opt-ins have increased from doing this, but there are reasons why "the biggest list" and "the biggest income" are two such very different things. And sneaky tricks like this are among them.




          This. Exactly. This comment "says it all".
          You can still be truthful and up front with them. Saying something like, "need info in book to read", on your front page. Something like that, I would have to think about it. Then all they will see is a download button.

          I'm thinking on the fact that people would definitely hit that button to download with out an opt-in first. Then your opt-in is on their computer.

          It depends how you use the power you are granted with. If your truthful and up front with them, I see no problem with this.

          Everyone is thinking on being sneaky with this. That is not the point. I could have in big red text, "You Need To Provide Name And Email On Cover Of eBook In Order To Read It". Your opt-in rates still would be higher. People have a problem giving info up front. Thinking they might not get the download. If you give them the download first, they will trust you that much more, giving you their info on the cover to read it. There is nothing sneaky about this.
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          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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            Originally Posted by adsassist View Post

            Everyone is thinking on being sneaky with this.
            The idea was presented as a continuation from this opening paragraph ...
            And here's a sneaky trick...
            Originally Posted by adsassist View Post

            That is not the point.
            Maybe you've found another, better, different point in it, but that was presented as "the point".
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            • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
              Continuing the "sneaky" theme, this is starting to read like a basic shill thread...

              Let's see what the mods think.

              "Here's a sneaky trick..."

              "I use my software..."

              "The link is in my sig..."

              :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author adsassist
    Very nice Glen, this is the first time me hearing about your software.

    I just might give this one a try. I can imagine my page right now, instant download with no opt-in. There are so many good things with this. Even if they don't opt-in, it is download to their computer. Giving them the chance to later, unlike a squeeze page where if they hit the x they never see the page again.

    Sounds to good to be true, but this time it might be true.

    Do you have a page where I can see this in action. I'm not seeing this technique in your sig.
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  • Profile picture of the author erwin78
    Hi everyone,

    very nice and good advice I found in this thread
    I'm familiar with the stuff but anyway thanks

    All the best

    Erwin
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