Are Mobile Sites Still Hot?

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Do you think there are a lot of businesses looking to get a mobile friendly website or has this niche already been over saturated?

I am thinking to do a product/ service in that niche, but not sure if it is too late to get onboard.
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  • Profile picture of the author LillySage
    It's not too late...especially for smaller businesses who haven't got in yet.
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  • Profile picture of the author Warrior X
    Not even close to being saturated. One of the biggest growth areas, in my opinion.

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  • Profile picture of the author mikeac
    This is one of the best businesses to be in. Just think of how many businesses you know personally that do not have a mobile optimized site or an app. I think youll hit a homerun.
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  • Profile picture of the author KingMedia
    In my experience, mobile sites are a hard sell. Depends on your geographic location, but in the western US - it's like trying to sell an Angus cheeseburger to a die hard vegetarian.

    What business owners truly want to know is "will it make me more money, and how much?"

    The real money in mobile is the "marketing", not just the mobile site. If you have a solid plan that involves the mobile site + SMS + Advertising opportunities that will make a great ROI for the business owner, then it will work great.

    But the mobi sites by themselves... meh. (my experience, mind you)
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    • Profile picture of the author dukegman
      Originally Posted by KingMedia View Post

      In my experience, mobile sites are a hard sell. Depends on your geographic location, but in the western US - it's like trying to sell an Angus cheeseburger to a die hard vegetarian.

      What business owners truly want to know is "will it make me more money, and how much?"

      The real money in mobile is the "marketing", not just the mobile site. If you have a solid plan that involves the mobile site + SMS + Advertising opportunities that will make a great ROI for the business owner, then it will work great.

      But the mobi sites by themselves... meh. (my experience, mind you)
      I was just gonna say this. Mobile sites will be a hard sell, unless you have a solid plan for advertising opportunities. Its all about how much business owner is gonna make. Simple as that.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve L
      Originally Posted by KingMedia View Post

      In my experience, mobile sites are a hard sell. Depends on your geographic location, but in the western US - it's like trying to sell an Angus cheeseburger to a die hard vegetarian.

      What business owners truly want to know is "will it make me more money, and how much?"

      The real money in mobile is the "marketing", not just the mobile site. If you have a solid plan that involves the mobile site + SMS + Advertising opportunities that will make a great ROI for the business owner, then it will work great.

      But the mobi sites by themselves... meh. (my experience, mind you)
      I agree. You have to make sure to connect the dots with the business owner on how the tech will make them more money ASAP.
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    • Profile picture of the author 4webmaster
      Totally agree with you 100%.
      That is true and not BS in your post.
      I've been targetting West U.S. and that's what I experience. I'm also targetting other location like Canada and Europe and same. So I wonder where in U.S is having great respond to mobile websites. What really works is in UK and Australia looks like the brits are more tech knowledge than their American cousins.

      Not meaning that there are no sales made but hard to convince these business owners to go mobile even with Google advertising toward this market.

      Biz owners need to see money back from their investment, that's something I've learn from them. They prefer to spend their money on a mailing list or newspaper advertising. Sorry to deceive many of you here but that's the true.

      This market will never get saturated because to get saturated you need to have a high demand and tha's not the case.

      Originally Posted by KingMedia View Post

      In my experience, mobile sites are a hard sell. Depends on your geographic location, but in the western US - it's like trying to sell an Angus cheeseburger to a die hard vegetarian.

      What business owners truly want to know is "will it make me more money, and how much?"

      The real money in mobile is the "marketing", not just the mobile site. If you have a solid plan that involves the mobile site + SMS + Advertising opportunities that will make a great ROI for the business owner, then it will work great.

      But the mobi sites by themselves... meh. (my experience, mind you)
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      • Profile picture of the author NeverTooLate
        Originally Posted by 4webmaster View Post

        Totally agree with you 100%.
        That is true and not BS in your post.
        I've been targetting West U.S. and that's what I experience. I'm also targetting other location like Canada and Europe and same. So I wonder where in U.S is having great respond to mobile websites. What really works is in UK and Australia looks like the brits are more tech knowledge than their American cousins.

        Not meaning that there are no sales made but hard to convince these business owners to go mobile even with Google advertising toward this market.

        Biz owners need to see money back from their investment, that's something I've learn from them. They prefer to spend their money on a mailing list or newspaper advertising. Sorry to deceive many of you here but that's the true.

        This market will never get saturated because to get saturated you need to have a high demand and tha's not the case.
        I agree. Many small business owners are stuck in the old days, doing the "same old" marketing. Newspaper ads and mailings typically have a lousy ROI, esp. when not professionally written.

        Mobile is like copywriting. Most small biz owners (SBOs) don't think the words matter enough to pay a writer to do their communications. Poor demand = hard to make sales.

        These SBOs will come around later rather than sooner, so the future is bright for mobile. For now, you just need to find the hotter prospects for mobile, like retail, restaurant and personal services like salons.

        Charles
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Ten
    Mobile is still growing. It seems that it will likely keep growing for a while. It may plateau off in about maybe 5-20 years it seems. It is hard to predict.
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  • Profile picture of the author winagain
    There's still a lot of room there. It's growing by leaps and bounds.
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  • Profile picture of the author Warrior X
    Walk in with your phone, pull up their website and show them how terrible it looks on
    a mobile device. Then tell them how 50% of people (or whatever
    the number is) now use their phones, not their computers, to shop the web.
    There's the profit motive for them.

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  • Profile picture of the author thedanbrown
    I think this thread belongs in the offline section but yes mobile websites are definitely still hot...

    Businesses will always need mobile websites so I guess it depends on the competition for offline marketing in your city.
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  • Profile picture of the author jessiem
    Mobile will shine this year. You should expect a lot in this niche so continue what you are doing..
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Moreno
    By our sales - mobile is still very hot!
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  • Profile picture of the author usmanuk
    I don't particularly like them, and always choose desktop myself when on my phone
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    • Profile picture of the author 4webmaster
      Originally Posted by usmanuk View Post

      I don't particularly like them, and always choose desktop myself when on my phone
      That's right to be honest with me and yourself. I ask a simple question:

      How many times did you visit a mobile website on your phone and how many times did you visit a full website on your laptop, tablet or desktop PC this week? Then what's the percent from those 2 sites, please don't tell you lies.

      Answer for me: 2% for mobile and 98% for full desktop sites.

      The last question is: What mobile website did you browse? Try to list and see if there were small businesses.

      Mobile website I browse:
      - Facebook
      - Ebay
      - my clients mobile sites

      You might be the average mobile user.

      Now you can see how popular are mobile sites and if they are hot or not.

      Do you remember the WAP years when the web started to go mobile? Well if fail and dot mobi is still around here but now with htlm 5 and other htm, php coding.

      So mobile trends have more to come in near future.

      Do I believe in mobile sites: YES but will grow in several years.
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      • Profile picture of the author Bizzoom
        Great comments on this thread, and all of them are valid.

        A balanced view of the mobile landscape is what is really needed in the over-hyped world of internet marketing, and I am sure we can all agree that much of what we find promoted on the internet is over-hyped. Mobile is no exception.

        Like all new niches - mobile websites, mobile apps, mobile marketing and advertising; mobile niches are also over-hyped in the beginning because those who first see the incredible opportunities encased in the eggshell of the developing niche of "mobile" get excited about it, and, as in their nature to promote what is now their new love, excitedly do so. More credit to them, for they have the vision for it. Props!

        Mobile is not an easy sell, like all new things. The old habits of SBOs are not easily broken. I know this from my experience in selling "space framed" short TV commercials to SBOs in the 90s.

        However, human nature is an interesting thing. At first I could only sell to the independent minded SBOs, and that was a small group in the beginning. I had to hit the pavement and do the face to face hard slog, and to be honest I almost gave up if it wasn't for my tenacious attitude.

        But then a remarkable thing happened. Once I reached a certain number of say, 20 or 30 clients under my belt, the flood gates opened! Within a year I had made over 300 clients happy. People are like sheep (baaaaah). We all know that. All you have to do is look at politics. If enough SBOs start going in one direction, the whole flock follows. Mobile hasn't reached that turning point yet.

        I blog daily on what is going on in the mobile world. Biz-Zoom Marketing | Mobile Marketing – Accelerate – Elevate- Dominate

        Mostly re-posting breaking news and opinion pieces for my own knowledge and to keep my prospective SBO clients informed as I look for a good solid toehold to climb the mobile mountain, and believe me the learning curve is very, very steep! You do not want to start off going in one direction only to find it is no longer the best path to success. If you rush into mobile you may misstep and fall flat on your face. I suspect that some who are negative towards mobile in this thread may have done exactly that.

        Saturation stats vary for mobile penetration depending on the country. Anywhere from less than 1% up to a maximum of 14% in The USA and UK. That alone tells you something. SBOs were the last to embrace static websites and will be the last to embrace mobile websites.

        The confusion over mobile websites vs. mobile apps does not help, nor does the valid and insightful comments regarding stand alone mobile sites by Google CEO Larry Page, "I’ll just add on the mobile question. We don’t necessarily want them to have mobile sites some are too simple and I find I get kind of frustrated on my phone sometimes when I have these mobile specific sites because I am using a modern Nexus 4 that can actually view up the full site and I just find it confusing." (full article here
        Biz-Zoom Marketing ).

        Larry Page is the true visionary. He sees well over the horizon, and we can listen carefully to what he is saying and adjust our thinking accordingly. He knows that people like the modern static (as opposed to mobile) user-friendly websites because they are so interactive, and most people feel that they have finally come of age, while mobile sites look so juvenile.

        Also if you desire to sell mobile websites you have to decide whether you will become a reseller or a developer, or both. The market is so fluid at the moment, and if there are too many choices, as is the case right now, the SBO will make the choice not to choose because they are confused. Confusion is a deal killer.

        So where does that leave us? It seems to be 'six of one and half a dozen of the other', and this alone will cause not only marketers to stall but SBOs to sit on their wallets.

        Larry Page has indicated recently that the answer is FLUID DESIGN. One website that suits all devices! He is absolutely correct. This is the answer, or at least one part of it - the basic part that is necessary to then begin to build the rest of your marketing plan upon.

        What does this mean? It means that if you are going to be in this game for the long term as opposed to the snatch and grab attitude, then you need to start learning fluid design, or find someone who is, and sell UP, not down to mobile. Sell your client a whole new (and profitable to you) package that has in it the answers to all their objections. A totally new website that has all the bells and whistles plugged in to it and one that will work perfectly on any mobile device.

        And never forget that your future client is like all those sheep that are suddenly running in one direction because a few are (in their minds) running from the wolf, even if there isn't one! Fear of being left behind and eaten is a powerful motivator. And, when mobile does truly and finally break the dam that is holding it back, the flood will be enormous. If you are not prepared for it when it happens you will be washed away in the flood of marketers who are. It will then be too late for you to play catch up.

        Get ready now, and don't listen to the naysayers because mobile is going to be massive. Learn fluid design. Learn how to generate QR Codes. Learn SMS marketing. And, learn how to integrate old school marketing and advertising techniques with the new and exciting mobile ones. When you can give your prospective client more than what they think they need, and do it in such a way that it seems seamless for them with as little headaches as possible, then you are truly in the mobile marketing business.

        I'm still learning something new every day, and I know without a doubt that the future is very, very bright for mobile!
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  • Profile picture of the author BarberShop
    Until all mobile devices become as big as Galaxy Note 2, with power and speed faster than Macbook Pros, and iPhones & laptops become a think of the past, and people buy more via mobile than laptop, Mobile biz is still not ready for prime time.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bizzoom
      Good point. I think it will take as little as 2 years to get there, but laptops and PCs will be with us for awhile, the same as previous tech like TVs and radios. When chip makers embrace carbonite tech and flexible large screens on mobile devices, then the shift will occur at a faster rate. They are doing their R&D as we speak, so watch for even greater strides over the next two years.

      People are mobile and so are their search habits. "Organic search traffic is the biggest lead generator, Organic search traffic is responsible for more than 40% of traffic to B2B sites."

      Early indicators are that social media is not what the hype would lead us to believe. "Social Media contributes only about 5% of traffic leads for B2B’s." more This tells us that mobile search, and more to the point 'local search' are the right paths for marketers to focus on for the future. Google (is) reporting that 50% of its mobile search is for local content (compared with about 17% of its desktop search), local advertising increasingly means mobile advertising.

      The stats are interesting regarding 'social' with many businesses with a Facebook page had neglected their pages over the peak selling period late last year because they are not getting the RIO as touted. "Over a third (36%) use search engines to find local news and information and 16% rely on specialty sites, but only 1% rely on a social networking site or Twitter. This doesn’t mean businesses should abandon social but does warn against relying on it." more

      It's an exciting area to be involved. Mobile will define the future - no doubt.
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  • Profile picture of the author clik2000
    I think this market will see explosive growth in the future, just look around, we're doing more business with our phones everyday, and I don't think this will slowdown..
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  • Profile picture of the author bsummers
    Definitely not too late, especially nowadays that smartphones users are undeniably increasing and mobile marketing is just so trendy. The latter is huge, and it's only getting bigger as days pass by, even growing at a remarkable speed; so certainly not the perfect time for you to disregard this strategy.
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    Are regular websites still hot?

    Yes, even though they have been around forever there are still plenty of businesses coming online for the first time and spending thousands of dollars on having a standard website created for them. This is years and years after the Internet first began and websites became popular.

    Are mobile websites still hot?

    We are only now at the beginning of this mobile movement. It is this year (2013) that mobile usage is finally expected to overtake desktop usage for the first time. The stats still show that majority of businesses that have a standard website still do not have a mobile website.

    Does that sound like a big opportunity? Hell yeah.

    Is it only going to get bigger over the next few years? Hell yeah.

    Is the market saturated? Hell no.

    Have a look at the number of people offering mobile services vs the number of businesses out there that need them. Don't let your judgement be skewed because you see a lot of talk around this forum about mobile websites. This forum represents only a very tiny section of the market.
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  • Profile picture of the author perfect
    There are still growing number of people who need mobile service, I think what is lacking is someone who will put them through.
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