Ripping Off Other Peoples Lists - Caught a Guy Red Handed!!!

Hi Retsced,

I agree with you buddy about a lot of sleaze out there and God knows how they sleep at night. The way he gets the lists is when his clients buy his service, they give him access to their auto reponders as he needs that info to install the opt in form. So he makes whatever he charges for his services but basically rips them off by stealing their lists.

Hi Joan,

I'm still learning so don't know much about the IM world and this just shocked me. I'm still innocent but determined to succeed using ethical route.

Thanks Alexa. That's also something to bear in mind. It's like crossing the road, right?....you have to be looking out in both directions.

I am also new to email marketing. Naming this company will help us get away with this BS.

This is why you need to know how to install/set up your own stuff. Down the road you can hire the right people or your own staff to do this.

We don't do that here.

Let's not generalize too much, here? Some lists openly advertised for sale have been built from opt-ins with which people have given permission (at the time they opted in) for their details to be passed on to others with offers/recommendations which might interest them.

Indeed, some (including some "business opportunity seeker lists") have signed up specifically for that purpose.

It doesn't necessarily follow at all that companies "selling lists" are doing anything wrong. What this thread is discussing - in contrast - clearly is a form of theft.

Hey Fun to Write, your absolutely right but non IM don't realize that lists can be stolen so they are easy victims for these crooks.

I like your point about 'Karma' catching up with those crooks. They might gain temporarily by stealing lists but they'll pay a higher price later on one way or the other.

troy23,

Bullshit. Dishonesty might be common on the 'anonymous' internet, but your blanket accusation is utter nonsense. If you and all of your associates are dishonest and unethical, that's your problem, but don't try and tar everyone else with the same brush.

Yes they do

You know there are many marketers who are going to try whatever free ones they find for their own need or reasons. I would suggest they learn their lesson early by backing up their list to their own records and adding in friends and family with a new email address specifically to help out and forward back all emails sent to them at that new email address for a couple months or so just to see exactly how it's working out. If strange people are emailing, the email ends up in the spam catcher, and exactly what the email looks like when it is sent.

I'm not familiar with snail mail marketing now, but it used to be that supposedly targeted prospect lists were sold with a one-time use and on those lists were people who would report directly to the list owner if they received more than one mailing.

A bit off the wall and off topic, but sometimes I've wished that spamming snail mailers sending garbage mail by the ton to every address in the city could be reported somewhere, especially the bank credit card and other companies that have your name, address and an account number already filled in for you to sign and return. That kind of thing keeps my paper shredder busy.