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14 years ago

If it is with STILL IMAGES or SLIDESHOW then YT probably will delete it. They have new policy and only allow real videos not STILL IMAGES with background music.

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GlenH 14 years ago

Originally Posted by abbe77

If it is with STILL IMAGES or SLIDESHOW then YT probably will delete it. They have new policy and only allow real videos not STILL IMAGES with background music.

I mean this had to happen didn't it?

There are so many of those crappy 30 second / still image / background music so called videos on YT, that they had to start coming down hard sooner or later, because their servers would be getting overrun with this garbage.
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RedShifted

14 years ago

I am using slideshows and all my videos are still up (I have a lot of them).

I think the reason they are up however, is because I actually narrate the slideshows with my voice. All the videos are around 3:00-5:00 minutes long btw. I'm curious if yours are those short 30 second type animoto videos? The way I narrate mine, and make them longer, really helps improve the quality of the content. On the other hand, if youtube decided to delete all slideshow videos, even mine, I wouldn't be mad.

I did narrated slideshows because they were easier, but if I was forced to do real videos, I'm sure the conversions would be a lot better.

So either way, it doesn't bother me what they do.

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Edwards WOrld

14 years ago

What about all those lyrics videos?

So if I have video playing and a popular song in the background then its all good.

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SandyDuPlessis

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Edwards WOrld

Quick question, I know youtube removes music video's at time - why?

How do others get away with it or do they remove if the film is the same, music?

Example Justin Bieber or whatever

I create a video with his music in the background and I am licensed to as well does it stick on YT?

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YT removes any video that contains copyrighted material, whether it is music, a still image, or a "proper" video.

If you do not own the rights - then YT will shut you down.

Originally Posted by abbe77

If it is with STILL IMAGES or SLIDESHOW then YT probably will delete it. They have new policy and only allow real videos not STILL IMAGES with background music.

This is not true. YT allows PowerPoint style videos. I have no idea where you got that information from.

Originally Posted by Edwards WOrld

What about all those lyrics videos?

So if I have video playing and a popular song in the background then its all good.

-Ed

No. If you use a popular piece of music and do not own the rights to it you will be shut down.

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J Bold

14 years ago

Originally Posted by SandyDuPlessis

YT removes any video that contains copyrighted material, whether it is music, a still image, or a "proper" video.

If you do not own the rights - then YT will shut you down.

No. If you use a popular piece of music and do not own the rights to it you will be shut down.

Well you're wrong.

In theory that would seem true.

In reality, they don't do this all the time, just some of the time.

Tons of people post copyrighted music up on youtube and it's been up there for years. I listen to music on youtube all the time from users who don't own the rights to post it.

There has to be tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands of these videos that youtube has not bothered to take down.

One thing they do on some videos is their software obviously recognizes that the music is on youtube so youtube's system adds a little link right below the video to buy that track on amazon, Google Play or Itunes so the artist and record company get paid.

I feel that certain record companies don't take the "delete" and prosecute approach and like the extra traffic and sales that result from the videos so they have worked with youtube to add that link to buy on videos that users post with their copyrighted music tracks.

Or perhaps youtube decides to not take down every single music video like this but recognizes it's possibly problematic but also profit off of the video by getting affiliate commissions from the buy link.

Or a combination of all of that.

Not exactly sure, but no not all music is deleted and, like the OP said, copyrighted music stays up sometimes and sometimes it doesn't, on youtube.

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RogueOne 14 years ago

Originally Posted by RedShifted

I am using slideshows and all my videos are still up (I have a lot of them).

I have a lot as well, all still there. Even 19 second robot vids.:confused:
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johnben1444

14 years ago

YouTube have hundreds of manual editors that quickly screens new videos that comes in.

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moreno

14 years ago

Don't mind just read the policy of YT and do what you think best , i have a video with music and slide too.....a nice one !

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nicholasb

14 years ago

this is pretty much like asking the question why do some criminals get arrested while others don't. It's impossible for them to track everything.

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NewRiseDigital

14 years ago

Oh my this takes me back to my digital music promotion days. If you don't own the rights to the music you are using on your YouTube video then you are violating copyright law. You can't use a commercial music track without paying royalties etc. to the artist / publisher that owns the rights. YouTube as a business police this, and yes there are lots of videos that are still up on YouTube that violate it, however if you want your videos to be guaranteed to stay there don't use copyright music, simple as that.

If you do want some great music for your videos try contacting an independent artist (preferably one who is not part of a performing rights society) on something like ReverbNation or SoundCloud as some of them may let you use their music on a credit only basis (i.e. they get credited in the video / on your site and you get to use their music for free or for a small direct to artist license fee negotiated between you and the artist directly). Struggling artists can benefit from this kind of deal and you can get to discover some great new music too

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jasonl70

14 years ago

I love how people will paste in a quote on copyright fair use, as if that somehow makes it legal.. did they actually READ it? I have yet to see a video quoting fair use that was actually legal!

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SandyDuPlessis

14 years ago

@ J Bold - the fact that that it has not been taken down immediately, does not make it legal. Those people using music or anything else to which they do not have clear rights, run the risk of having their channels shut down and of being banned.

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Edwards WOrld

14 years ago

Originally Posted by SandyDuPlessis

YT removes any video that contains copyrighted material, whether it is music, a still image, or a "proper" video.

If you do not own the rights - then YT will shut you down.

I Have Rights To Use The Song In My Video (Written Document Rights)

This is not true. YT allows PowerPoint style videos. I have no idea where you got that information from.

No. If you use a popular piece of music and do not own the rights to it you will be shut down.

Originally Posted by jasonl70

I love how people will paste in a quote on copyright fair use, as if that somehow makes it legal.. did they actually READ it? I have yet to see a video quoting fair use that was actually legal!

Agree, In my case it took weeks to reach out to labels, and artist. FYI - Pain

Originally Posted by J Bold

Well you're wrong.

In theory that would seem true.

In reality, they don't do this all the time, just some of the time.

Tons of people post copyrighted music up on youtube and it's been up there for years. I listen to music on youtube all the time from users who don't own the rights to post it.

There has to be tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands of these videos that youtube has not bothered to take down.

One thing they do on some videos is their software obviously recognizes that the music is on youtube so youtube's system adds a little link right below the video to buy that track on amazon, Google Play or Itunes so the artist and record company get paid.

I feel that certain record companies don't take the "delete" and prosecute approach and like the extra traffic and sales that result from the videos so they have worked with youtube to add that link to buy on videos that users post with their copyrighted music tracks.

Or perhaps youtube decides to not take down every single music video like this but recognizes it's possibly problematic but also profit off of the video by getting affiliate commissions from the buy link.

Or a combination of all of that.

Not exactly sure, but no not all music is deleted and, like the OP said, copyrighted music stays up sometimes and sometimes it doesn't, on youtube.

Basically what i was asking is how youtube works and what I can do so My video in the case I begin to build it up isn't shut down.

I have the rights to the music, I have my own film, I just want to know how does YT know who is Legit an who is just not.

PS: You are allowed to play other popular music with lyrics, and other clips (Youtube has a license contract with some major record labels- Spoke with them)just no Promoting anything, links, click here Ads, zero. They will go after you if you do... you need a specific license.

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J Bold

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Edwards WOrld

Basically what i was asking is how youtube works and what I can do so My video in the case I begin to build it up isn't shut down.

I have the rights to the music, I have my own film, I just want to know how does YT know who is Legit an who is just not.

PS: You are allowed to play other popular music with lyrics, and other clips (Youtube has a license contract with some major record labels- Spoke with them)just no Promoting anything, links, click here Ads, zero. They will go after you if you do... you need a specific license.

If it's your own music I don't think you should have a problem.

But you never know with youtube.

edit: You have the rights to the music, I see. You mean you have the rights to use other people's music in your film?

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SandyDuPlessis

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Edwards WOrld

Agree, In my case it took weeks to reach out to labels, and artist. FYI - Pain

Basically what i was asking is how youtube works and what I can do so My video in the case I begin to build it up isn't shut down.

I have the rights to the music, I have my own film, I just want to know how does YT know who is Legit an who is just not.

PS: You are allowed to play other popular music with lyrics, and other clips (Youtube has a license contract with some major record labels- Spoke with them)just no Promoting anything, links, click here Ads, zero. They will go after you if you do... you need a specific license.

All you can do is make sure that every part of your channel complies with YouTube's TOS. Keep a file containing all documented proof of whatever rights you have. YT has no way of knowing (that I am aware of) whether you own rights or not, so you will need to be prepared to prove the fact should they shut you down.

There are also many over zealous as well as malicious people who may well flag your video simply because they can, or perhaps see you as a competitor. Unfortunately YT does not appear to have anything in place at the moment, that will or can prevent this.

It is a good idea to make note of any rights you own in the description area of the video, so that in the event you are flagged, the "moderators" will become aware of the fact and would be less likely to close you down.

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J Bold

14 years ago

Originally Posted by SandyDuPlessis

@ J Bold - the fact that that it has not been taken down immediately, does not make it legal. Those people using music or anything else to which they do not have clear rights, run the risk of having their channels shut down and of being banned.

I wasn't talking about legality or if it's wise or "right" to do it or not.

I was just talking about what youtube actually does since your post made it sound like all those videos definitely get shut down which is just not true.

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RachelLily

14 years ago

Read on the rules and updates on their policy. maybe the video you uploaded violated the rules, or maybe it is too dull that it only has 2or3 views.

You should try to make a video with eye-catching images, if these are still images so many viewers will notice it.

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YasirYar

14 years ago

It can be hard to define what YT allows and disallows at the moment. I have some legit YT vids promoting a website and I am dumbfounded when they have my channel taken down without notice. All my hard work down the drain.

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Lokahi

14 years ago

If you make a tutorial with your own camera and then upload to Youtube, it's not likely to get taken down. However, if you use images of celebrities or copyrighted photos along with music, that video will likely be removed from Youtube

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Boga Dhami

14 years ago

good quality videos will never removed by youtube. You consider this fact when uploading your latest creation.

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James_Harkin

14 years ago

I have talk radio videos with a single image on YouTube, they have 6,000 to 35,000 and more views and each have many comments. I remove copyrighted music from the videos before uploading. If I don't remove copyrighted music from videos YouTube will put an ad on it and disable public statistics, obviously to pay the royalty fees. With the talk radio videos I usually link to the specific radio station and I personally know at least one of the people being interviewed and they have given me permission to upload and promote. I have no problems with YouTube regarding this.

One of my videos that was listed for over a year was a short excerpt from a movie, it had 20,000 views ... a film company did a DMCA on that excerpt (even when using fair use notices) and YouTube disabled the "longer" video option until they had either cleared the video or I personally removed the video from the site. I opted to remove the video and I was given "longer" video option again instantly.

Don't waste your time with copyrighted videos, eventually you will have your account frozen or deleted. YouTube also recently cut all the accounts that hadn't been logged into for quite some time, so it won't take them too long to start disabling video spam accounts.

As with Google and article spam, Google will eventually take a dim view of video spam and will disable accounts. If there are not already rules against it, don't kid yourself they will add them in soon enough. Back in the day, with unsolicited commercial email (SPAM), article spamming, video spamming and the link will eventually cause more grief to marketers than those who actually offer some serious value to their visitors and viewers.

Upload quality content of value to viewers and YouTube will love you, abuse their trust and they will slam you the floor...

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VegasVince 14 years ago

Not sure if this is even feasible but it's a loop hole that seems to bypass YouTube's copyright statues....

Rock Star Prince who is suing You Tube.....has his music yanked almost immediately for obvious copyright infringement. The only time I see stuff of HIS stick is when the footage is taken from an actual fan at a concert.

For what ever reason...it's given fair use. In fact if you search Prince Live I think you'll find the concert where he's doing Purple Rain...obviously filmed by a fan in the packed audience at the Rod Laver arena. This video has been up a while.

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p.s. while anyone male over the age of 25 who goes to see Justin Bieber must register as a sex offender.....I'd send my kid with a flip phone if I had a kid........
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Hardi Wijaya

14 years ago

This issue is purely about copyright. Nothing else. Find out the copyright status first before posting to YT.

Btw:
Did someone just say that still images in video is crappy?

Probably don't know the technique of turning still images into live video

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Edwards WOrld

14 years ago

Originally Posted by J Bold

If it's your own music I don't think you should have a problem.

But you never know with youtube.

edit: You have the rights to the music, I see. You mean you have the rights to use other people's music in your film?

Correct They gave me permission.

Originally Posted by James_Harkin

I have talk radio videos with a single image on YouTube, they have 6,000 to 35,000 and more views and each have many comments. I remove copyrighted music from the videos before uploading. If I don't remove copyrighted music from videos YouTube will put an ad on it and disable public statistics, obviously to pay the royalty fees. With the talk radio videos I usually link to the specific radio station and I personally know at least one of the people being interviewed and they have given me permission to upload and promote. I have no problems with YouTube regarding this.

One of my videos that was listed for over a year was a short excerpt from a movie, it had 20,000 views ... a film company did a DMCA on that excerpt (even when using fair use notices) and YouTube disabled the "longer" video option until they had either cleared the video or I personally removed the video from the site. I opted to remove the video and I was given "longer" video option again instantly.

Don't waste your time with copyrighted videos, eventually you will have your account frozen or deleted. YouTube also recently cut all the accounts that hadn't been logged into for quite some time, so it won't take them too long to start disabling video spam accounts.

As with Google and article spam, Google will eventually take a dim view of video spam and will disable accounts. If there are not already rules against it, don't kid yourself they will add them in soon enough. Back in the day, with unsolicited commercial email (SPAM), article spamming, video spamming and the link will eventually cause more grief to marketers than those who actually offer some serious value to their visitors and viewers.

Upload quality content of value to viewers and YouTube will love you, abuse their trust and they will slam you the floor...

Regards...

James...

James Very helpful, was looking for real experience and info will consider this

Originally Posted by VegasVince

Not sure if this is even feasible but it's a loop hole that seems to bypass YouTube's copyright statues....

Rock Star Prince who is suing You Tube.....has his music yanked almost immediately for obvious copyright infringement. The only time I see stuff of HIS stick is when the footage is taken from an actual fan at a concert.

For what ever reason...it's given fair use. In fact if you search Prince Live I think you'll find the concert where he's doing Purple Rain...obviously filmed by a fan in the packed audience at the Rod Laver arena. This video has been up a while.

Stay Legendary

Vegas Vince

p.s. while anyone male over the age of 25 who goes to see Justin Bieber must register as a sex offender.....I'd send my kid with a flip phone if I had a kid........

Lol right? .... jk.

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