Does eZineArticles.com drive you CRAZY sometimes?

15 years ago

P.S.S. When writing an article to eZineArticles it clearly states you may use , , and tags in the body of the article...

...but yet every single article I've submitted that is LIVE has had ALL the tags STRIPPED out and is just plain text.

What's with THAT?

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Mrs S 15 years ago

They do sometimes seem to be a bit hit and miss. I had an article rejected the other day because I used 4 words as an anchor text in my resource box - they pointed me to the guidelines that say 3 is max but I have at least 5 other articles live with 4 or even 5 keywords as anchor text!

If you want to use bold and italics in your content just use the WYSIWYG options as they seem to stay in.

Ea can be a bit fickle at time - but the traffic is worth it
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- Emmanuel Betinis 15 years ago
 
 Originally Posted by Mrs S
 
 If you want to use bold and italics in your content just use the WYSIWYG options as they seem to stay in.
 
 So you're saying their submission process is DEFECTIVE and I need to use the WYSIWYG editor in order for my , or tags to stick?
 
 Sounds like a technical difficulty they need to fix then IF this is the case.
 
 I shouldn't HAVE to use their WYSIWYG editor in order for my tags to stick when it says right above the body submission box that they ALLOW those tags to be entered directly in.
 
 I really hope I'm missing something here with these guys because eZineArticles can be a very valuable place for an internet marketer to implement.
 
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berthern

15 years ago

Hello,

I'm in complete agreement with you 100%!

I have over 100 articles submitted to Ezinearticles. Recently, I wrote a review and one of the keywords I used was "Buy Keyword." One of the keywords I was targeting was the buying phrase. And that's why I included it.

They turned down the article because they said that I was promoting my product in the article body. And suspended my account!!

Is this anyway for them to business?

Of course, I have sent them e-mails asking them to correct this. I am also in the process of sending Chris Knight a letter because it seems that his editorial staff is... OUT OF CONTROL!

I don't know if anyone else has experienced this lately. But it is driving me crazy. Fortunately, I have other accounts with them.

Just My Two Cents

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Emmanuel Betinis

15 years ago

Wow, all of your feedback is fulfilling!

I just sent eZineArticles a message about these two articles in particular:

First of all, my goal with your website is to
sincerely PROVIDE QUALITY CONTENT that is
original and NOT SPAM. Thank you for upgrading
my account recently as I look forward to providing
you with even MORE quality original content in
the near future.

I have a couple questions about two articles of
mine that have been REJECTED.

1.) Article #XXXXXXX

First of all, this article was LIVE AND ACCEPTED
for quite some time. All I did was make ONE
SINGLE CHANGE to it (Author name) and re-submit
it. That was the ONLY change I made. And now
you say it's rejected because I'm promoting a
product or service?! Please explain WHY since
you always liked it before and approved the SAME
EXACT content in the past.

2.) Article #XXXXXXX

You state this article contains excessive keywords.
Well, I counted the number of times my keyword
comes up in this article, and it's MUCH LESS than
the number of times my keywords come up in
other articles THAT ARE LIVE AND APPROVED right now!
Please explain.

It will be interesting to see what their reply will be.

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Steven Wagenheim

15 years ago

This just happened to me.

On March 27, I submitted an article. Now mind you, I have submitted
thousands of articles to EZA so I think I know what flies and what doesn't.

Well, the article, one week later, was rejected...no reason given except
contact us.

So I did.

It took almost another week for the managing editor to get back to me to
let me know that the article was put in problem status by accident. Now, in
the meantime, I got tired of waiting and deleted the article. Well, she asked
if I wanted her to undelete it and approve it? I said sure.

A week later, today, I got the article undeleted but also put back in
problem status by a member editor saying that the problem was with the
link in my resource box, that they don't allow the promotion of a product
that mentions a certain thing. I was like, "WTF?"

Well, I wrote back to the member editor and the managing editor as bluntly
as I could without getting my account deep six'd

5 minutes later...the article was published.

This is living proof that there is a big gray area in the interpretation of
what's "acceptable" and what's "not acceptable" and until Chris has a big
meeting with his staff and says, "Okay guys and gals, here are the guidelines"
this kind of stuff is going to continue.

Personally, I could care less about 1 lousy article with the thousands I
have published through them, but don't tell me it's a mistake one minute,
five minutes later tell me it's not a mistake and then five minutes later
publish my article.

I feel like a freaking yo-yo sometimes.

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Nathan Hangen 15 years ago

Most recently they hit me with the following:

Article does not provide enough quality content/does not deliver (false)
Does not fit the title (not true)
too long anchor text in resource section (crazy, but w/e)
duplicate of a blog post or email (WTF???)

I normally have a few rejected because I like to test what I can get by with, but now it is just getting ridiculous.
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Emmanuel Betinis

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

This is living proof that there is a big gray area in the interpretation of
what's "acceptable" and what's "not acceptable" and until Chris has a big
meeting with his staff and says, "Okay guys and gals, here are the guidelines"
this kind of stuff is going to continue.

Amen.

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Personally, I could care less about 1 lousy article with the thousands I
have published through them, but don't tell me it's a mistake one minute,
five minutes later tell me it's not a mistake and then five minutes later
publish my article.

I feel like a freaking yo-yo sometimes.

Amen!

Steven, it's great to hear this from you, a respected article author.

At least now I have validated in my mind that I'm NOT
losing my marbles and that there certainly IS a grey
area with their approval process.

Has anyone been able to use  tags in their
article body on their KEYWORD or do they just
get stripped right away anyway? I'm not going to go back
and edit every single damn article just to find out they all
end up getting rejected or stripped out again anyway.

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berthern

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

This just happened to me.

On March 27, I submitted an article. Now mind you, I have submitted
thousands of articles to EZA so I think I know what flies and what doesn't.

Well, the article, one week later, was rejected...no reason given except
contact us.

So I did.

It took almost another week for the managing editor to get back to me to
let me know that the article was put in problem status by accident. Now, in
the meantime, I got tired of waiting and deleted the article. Well, she asked
if I wanted her to undelete it and approve it? I said sure.

Steven,

I have had a similar problem!

I've been marketing online now for almost 6 years. Ezinearticles has been one of my sources of traffic for at least that long. I had a problem with one of my articles, the only response from them was to contact them regarding the problem. I had no idea what the problem was. Days became a week before I received a response. In the meantime, I submitted the article to other directories.

I usually don't complain or bitch but, it is really becoming ridiculous.

I understand they want to keep the spammers out but, I submit between 10 to 15 articles per day 30 days per month in all my different niches. It's all original content not PLR or rewrites. I understand they are trying to weed out the bad apples but, as they used to say... "don't throw out the baby with the bathwater."

Just My Two Cents

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Emmanuel Betinis

15 years ago

Originally Posted by berthern

Recently, I wrote a review and one of the keywords I used was "Buy Keyword." One of the keywords I was targeting was the buying phrase. And that's why I included it.

They turned down the article because they said that I was promoting my product in the article body. And suspended my account!!

I'm not sure of the exact specifics of YOUR particular article, but just by looking through their directory right now I see a TON of "buy __________" title articles online LIVE.

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stsnelson

15 years ago

That's why I stopped using Ezine Articles among other things that I will not mention because most people tend to overlook the obvious when using them.

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anth.elias

15 years ago

Yep, I agree their editorial team lives on different planets, what they may approve one day they might reject the next.

Like I mentioned in another post, I really think it's because Google has recently last 6 months or so taken a big interest on EZA. Basically what I'm saying is that Google is taking EZA out on hot dates and now EZA has a big ego.

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Emmanuel Betinis

15 years ago

Originally Posted by aelias

I really think it's because Google has recently last 6 months or so taken a big interest on EZA. Basically what I'm saying is that Google is taking EZA out on hot dates and now EZA has a big ego.

Makes sense.

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Emmanuel Betinis

15 years ago

Originally Posted by ProductCreator

I tell you what is stupid about EZA, even though I have over 1,000 articles there:

They reward the experienced editors with articles/authors that are easier to approve and less likely to contain mistakes.

So basically, the people who are experienced don't even need to spot any errors. And the people who are total beginners...who knows, maybe they're trying to hit targets or something??

Right...I was thinking the same thing. I'm sure they're being "pushed" in some way or another to keep up with their "duties", which can be a detriment to a legitimately quality article being overly "nit-picked".

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Steven Wagenheim

15 years ago

Originally Posted by ProductCreator

I tell you what is stupid about EZA, even though I have over 1,000 articles there:

They reward the experienced editors with articles/authors that are easier to approve and less likely to contain mistakes.

So basically, the people who are experienced don't even need to spot any errors. And the people who are total beginners...who knows, maybe they're trying to hit targets or something??

Sorry, this isn't true. I got hit with a newbie who didn't know what they
were doing.

I don't think the top authors get any special treatment.

At least I know I don't.

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billaaa777

15 years ago

As the #2 rated author in a highly lucrative category of 2,000 writers or so, whose articles are usually approved and put on the front page within a few days I feel I have a little expertise I could add here.

First, I can tell they have recently upgrade there software system that does quite of there editing and approval. It is kicking back a few more articles than previously to me, mostly for grammar corrections in the title.

This is probably legitimate, because I must admit, when you write about the same thing every day and try to stuff the title with as many key words as you can get in without it looking to foolish, I don't have a problem with it.

I just adjust the title and they are accepted the next day.

Second, they have expanded there categories since the New Year and consequently hired quite a few new editors, which I believe they are rotating around now teaching them the system.

Third, and most importantly of all, you really need to read there rules and regulations. Then you need to follow them! If you do that, then you really should not have too many problems.

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Emmanuel Betinis

15 years ago

Originally Posted by billaaa777

...you really need to read there rules and regulations. Then you need to follow them! If you do that, then you really should not have too many problems.

With all due respect, I disagree with you here 100%.

Why? Because the point of this thread is to show and validate that there ARE INDEED problems with eZineArticles EVEN WHEN FOLLOWING THEIR RULES/REGULATIONS.

Countless times now I've had "editors" apologize to me for their "mistakes" when initially they pointed the finger at ME for breaking THEIR "rules" which I did NOT and they then "lifted" the rejection.

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Lisa aka LJ

15 years ago

Originally Posted by anapest

Countless times now I've had "editors" apologize to me for their "mistakes" when initially they pointed the finger at ME for breaking THEIR "rules" which I did NOT and they then "lifted" the rejection.

I've had that too...I submitted an article that they said violated their guidelines...I wrote back, pointing out that this article was similar to another of mine they'd accepted...they responded with an apology and accepted it. They probably have too many editors not really knowing the rules.

Another time, they said I was keyword-stuffing (or whatever term they used). This "overused" word was not an important keyword for my niche, but I went ahead and cut down the usage of it to meet their specifications. The article ended up sounding kinda funny....

Ah well.

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billaaa777

15 years ago

I don't think the top authors get any special treatment.

Steven, I read quite a bit of your post here and like your contributions, but on this one I will have to disagree with you.

I am the #2 writer in a category and my articles are usually accepted and approved in a few days and then put on the front page. I could tell they changed the editor of my category recently and I was not getting the same placement.

So, last week I wrote them an email thanking then for sending me a letter stating I was one of the top 500 writers from American in February and how proud I was now to have moved up from number 3 to 2 in the category.

The purpose of the email was really just to complain about my placement the last two weeks. They sent out a reply to look at some forum posting, which I did not even bother to look at.

But, low and behold, this weekend I had 5 articles on the first page, and the top three spots and received a ton of traffic from it. So, they read my email, sent it to the editor and made an adjustment to my placement rather quickly. Back to the top spot as usual.

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Nathan Hangen 15 years ago

I'm desperately trying to find an alternative. Like Angela recommended, I might switch to GoArticles. I don't like EZA's cavalier attitude...they overestimate their value and they are biting the hands that feed them. I'd love to buy them out and the fire the entire crew. Maybe I'll add that to the goal list.
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Steven Wagenheim

15 years ago

Originally Posted by billaaa777

Steven, I read quite a bit of your post here and like your contributions, but on this one I will have to disagree with you.

I am the #2 writer in a category and my articles are usually accepted and approved in a few days and then put on the front page. I could tell they changed the editor of my category recently and I was not getting the same placement.

So, last week I wrote them an email thanking then for sending me a letter stating I was one of the top 500 writers from American in February and how proud I was now to have moved up from number 3 to 2 in the category.

The purpose of the email was really just to complain about my placement the last two weeks. They sent out a reply to look at some forum posting, which I did not even bother to look at.

But, low and behold, this weekend I had 5 articles on the first page, and the top three spots and received a ton of traffic from it. So, they read my email, sent it to the editor and made an adjustment to my placement rather quickly. Back to the top spot as usual.

You can disagree with me all you want but as the top author in quite a few
categories, I can absolutely say without any doubt whatsoever that I
get no special treatment.

I get the same boneheaded editors that everybody else gets.

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Dellco

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

You can disagree with me all you want but as the top author in quite a few
categories, I can absolutely say without any doubt whatsoever that I
get no special treatment.

I get the same boneheaded editors that everybody else gets.

Well at least, you can't argue that EA isn't being fair to everybody

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billaaa777

15 years ago

With all due respect, I disagree with you here 100%.

I won't disagree with you on this point too much. What I will say, is that it takes less time to play there little game than to argue with them.

I don't think I have ever had a article I had to edit rejected a second time after I edited it. How long does it take to edit an article, two minutes or so? I just edit and resubmit them.

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billaaa777

15 years ago

I might switch to GoArticles

I submit there too. It is almost a total waste of time. You will get very little traffic at all from them. At least in my niche, anyway.

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The Copy Nazi

Banned 15 years ago

They drive me absolutely crazy. I gave up on them for awhile. Its like one minute you have a 12 year old Editor and the next you have a seasoned pro. Very hit and miss. Lot of rubbishy articles on there too. How can they let the bad spelling and terrible Grandma...I mean "Grammar" through. I'd love to tell them to "stick it!" but they do have good juice.

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Emmanuel Betinis 15 years ago

This one is great...

I had another article from EZA just kickback REJECTED
today with the message of "Excessive Anchor Text".

Okay...

So I look at my past articles that are already
APPROVED and LIVE...

And B-I-N-G-O!

I found an already approved article that had
the SAME EXACT anchor text formatting
as the one that just got rejected.

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  I had my own issue with EZA
  
  Why does EZA keep changing my Article summary after submission- Why? why ??
  
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lacraiger

15 years ago

they have different editors. some pass for others and some dont. just try resumbmitting and hope for the best.

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Jim Carpenter

15 years ago

I am really frustrated with ezine.

I get the "Your article does not adhere to the following Editorial Guideline, Section 2.a."

"if your article title includes a specific location, please be sure to offer specific information highly relevant to that locale"

So in response I write the letter below.
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Hello,

The article -
"Three Reasons to Experience a Wedding Car Rental Philadelphia"

Has the locations or specifics to the Philadelphia area of-

1) wedding day at Bartram's Garden, the Park Hyatt

2) Benjamin Franklin bridge

3)even better in this "City of Brotherly Love"

The reason given - "For example, if your article title includes a specific location, please be sure to offer specific information highly relevant to that locale."

If someone could be a little clearer on the explanation it would really help as I can not see what else I should do
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It seems like these rejections are totally arbitrary.

I have about ten articles they have rejected in this matter. I am waiting for the reponse to the two support messages I sent today, the last one I think took over a week to respond.

I doubt the people paying for the premium service are experiencing this bull. And that may be the reason why why we are.

Well I thought it was just me but I am relived to see it is a failure at ezine.

Soon I will stop wasting time submitting to them.

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PatriciaJ

15 years ago

Originally Posted by turftroll

I am really frustrated with ezine.

I get the "Your article does not adhere to the following Editorial Guideline, Section 2.a."

"if your article title includes a specific location, please be sure to offer specific information highly relevant to that locale"

So in response I write the letter below.
///////////////////////////////////////////
Hello,

The article -
"Three Reasons to Experience a Wedding Car Rental Philadelphia"

Has the locations or specifics to the Philadelphia area of-

1) wedding day at Bartram's Garden, the Park Hyatt

2) Benjamin Franklin bridge

3)even better in this "City of Brotherly Love"

The reason given - "For example, if your article title includes a specific location, please be sure to offer specific information highly relevant to that locale."

If someone could be a little clearer on the explanation it would really help as I can not see what else I should do
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It seems like these rejections are totally arbitrary.

I have about ten articles they have rejected in this matter. I am waiting for the reponse to the two support messages I sent today, the last one I think took over a week to respond.

I doubt the people paying for the premium service are experiencing this bull. And that may be the reason why why we are.

Well I thought it was just me but I am relived to see it is a failure at ezine.

Soon I will stop wasting time submitting to them.

For me the problem with "Wedding Car Rental Philadelphia" in your title would be that it doesn't read entirely naturally and if the phrase is repeated in the article it would be difficult to make it read naturally.

I would also feel that unless an article is highly relevant to a specific area (such as a travel article) it borders on self promotional and would be less likely to be republished than a general article about wedding car rentals. Article directories get juice from republishing.

I don't think that there is any great failure at EZA. They are trying to maintain the quality and integrity of their site as they and any other directory owners are entitled to. I don't envy them their task one bit. From what I see and reject every day on my own directory I know that they must get far more of the same. Sometimes it's blooming great to see an article that fits in with site guidelines amongst dozens that don't. I would hate to have to start employing others to check articles because different people see different things.

Perhaps if more people read site guidelines there would be less complaints. Also before submitting articles ask yourself this: if the article was written by somebody else would you want it on your website?

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OmarNegron

15 years ago

Yea man trust me I know where your coming from.

I recently got slapped on the risk for promoting a product and they accused me of putting an affiliate link...hehehe

but I apologized and got it reinstated...

it happens sometimes...just keep on writing more articles.. =-)

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MarkWrites

15 years ago

I think in the end it is pretty tough for me to complain about a site that allows me to submit my articles there and then in return sends a very healthy amount of traffic back to my sites... for free.

Different established editors have different interpretations of acceptance guidelines, is this right? No. Is it unavoidable? Pretty much. You see this with any type of organization that requires a great many different people to handle any kind of approval process, so much of it is subjective and there are also those that honestly don't do their job correctly. Throw into that the, what I can only assume must be, high turnover rate on their editors which means they constantly have new editors that aren't seasoned or experts at their job yet trying to do their best, but not being totally up to speed yet.

I've been annoyed by articles getting rejected, in my opinion, wrongly like everyone else. If I could change it I would, but I don't have that power. So I guess... life goes on. Its a common problem many people have and EZA knows about it because they get slammed on it all the time. I haven't seen any evidence though that shows they aren't at least trying to do their best, or trying to perform a good service.

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yves 15 years ago

It is without a doubt that Ezine has changed and it aint pretty. I agree that there is good traffic to be had but that doesn't mean they should have us over a barrel.

My experiences lately are that the team are getting a little creative and actually changing the title of my article!! Not only does it change the meaning of the title but renders the keyphrase useless. It is not on. I spend a while drafting my articles and only submit good stuff. I know they are good quality and can't be bothered with this rubbish about it not being good enough for some BS reason or other. P.s I don't keyword stuff in the slightest.

I see article after article published that are quite frankly very poor and even ones which appear to have an affiliate link, what's with that?

Whoever said Ezine has a big ego is spot on. And yes, go articles ain't that great for traffic but articles base and searchwarp are and actually yes, as good as Ezine :p.

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elitesystem

15 years ago

Honestly i didnt have any issues with ezine. sometimes they mail me saying that i need to remove extra links bla bla.. but so far its ok! i gotta check it out now.. and @yves, thanks for the info on other good article dirs

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yves

15 years ago

Originally Posted by elitesystem

Honestly i didnt have any issues with ezine. sometimes they mail me saying that i need to remove extra links bla bla.. but so far its ok! i gotta check it out now.. and @yves, thanks for the info on other good article dirs

You are welcome Elitesystem, glad to be of help. I find articlebase particularly good

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Emmanuel Betinis 15 years ago

Again today...4 more articles come back REJECTED because of "excessive anchor text".

I'm not steamed about it (yet) but it's at this point now where it's kind of funny. I have articles that are LIVE and APPROVED right now that completely contradict what their recent approvals have been.

My quick note to them:

Hello!

Please refer to my articles that are currently REJECTED
because of the use of "excessive anchor text". Notice
how the formatting of the actual anchor text itself is laid out.

Now please refer to the articles by myself that have
already been approved. You'll notice those articles
(Refer to the APPROVED and LIVE article here as an
example: http://XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX) have the
SAME EXACT anchor text formatting as the ones that have
been rejected.

Please, allow me to elaborate...

I only use two links in my bio box.
This will be laid out below for your convenience:

Link #1: "<ANCHOR TEXT ABC>"
Link #2: "<ANCHOR TEXT ABC> link here"

Like I said, I have SEVERAL articles that have ALREADY
BEEN APPROVED AND LIVE for some time now with
this SAME EXACT anchor text formatting. Refer to
given example URL of an APPROVED article stated
above for honest and sincere proof of this.

A reply back justifying this contradictory activity in
your approval process(es) will be greatly appreciated
as I am looking forward to providing you with quality
content in the years to come!

P.S. I have heard you have many new editors on
board - that's great! I'm sure they're just trying to
do their best job and sometimes go "overboard" with
the intent of doing an "extra good job" - it's no problem!
I just want to let you know that the articles you've
recently rejected certainly must be an exception due
to the fact that past articles of mine that are already
live and approved have identical formatting to the
one's you've just now rejected.

Sincerely,

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Devon Brown

15 years ago

I've had some problems too.. but I check my account regularly. Sometimes my article will be approved and then weeks later, it gets unapproved for keywords, links, etc..
One week it was because of my name..
But I'll put up with it because it is ezine.

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DanielFonda

15 years ago

Hmm... I'm not exactly sure how to fix your problem. I would recommend that you just forget about the problem and move on.

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ladyjane 15 years ago

I submitted a couple of articles a few weeks ago to get traffic to a new blog I'd made dealing with sexual health. Now, mind you, this was a very clinical blog, with nothing pornographic on it, and with clinical names for all the relevant body parts/sex acts, etc.

I submitted both articles together, one right after the other. A few days later, I get notice that one of the articles is approved and live on the site. The other article was rejected because it linked to a site with "excessive profanity"......but the rejected article was linking to the same website as the article that was approved! And, again, there was NO profanity on the site.

Quite bizarre, in my opinion!
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Sunny Outside

15 years ago

When it comes to ezine: whenever I do a search for something and a citation for ezine comes up, I make a point of NOT clicking on it. Ezine info is not quality info, and a great way for someone to waste precious time collecting useless information.

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abs007 15 years ago

Im fairly new to EA and only have 8 articles live and 2 published. I don't really understand what they mean by 2 published and 8 live, so i sent them a message a week ago. I am still to hear back from them.

I submitted an article the other week and used a few keywords in the article. The editors got back to me saying that I am promoting my products so it will not get accepted till i get this rectified. I removed the keywords and re submitted the article- the article was then approved.

I have a few questions which i was hoping some of you experienced EA authors could help me with.

I sell consumer electronics. If i was to write an article with no relevance to consumer electronics then would the backlink still be worth while?

If I write an article with no keywords of mine in it whatsoever then would it still class as a good backlink from EA?

I like to think of backlinks in 2 ways-1. being for quality traffic and 2. being for search engine robots. When I try to do it for quality traffic as well as for the search engine robots EA will not accept my article due to the usage of keywords.

what are your opinions on this please?
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HappyCommando

15 years ago

I will be interested to come back to this thread in a couple of days/weeks to see if it has encouraged EZA to adapt its ways. Sounds like warriors are unanimously unhappy with them.

This begs the question that some have already partially answered: "In your Warrior opinions, which are the next best alternatives to EZA?"

Our efforts built the EZA empire and can build another.

Thank you.

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trevstar22 15 years ago

I looked at the ezine article guidelines and passed, you almost have to be Einstein to get all the rules down straight. You guys who regularly publish articles are all genius material as far as I'm concerned. I looked at GoArticles as an alternative and they have tools that show you how many times an article is read. I was shocked at how many articles had been read zero times! Very few were even read 3 or 4 times. Not surprising when you look at the kinds of articles that get accepted and huge quantity. I would be very interested to know of good alternatives.
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charlie9751

15 years ago

Honestly, I think Ezine Articles website is the most complicated site I have ever used. I cannot tell you how many times I have become lost, or clicked back to find the page expired. It is so frustrating.
Charlie

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Steven Wagenheim

15 years ago

Well, if you think they're driving you crazy now, wait until you see what
they've done to the format of how your articles appear online.

http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ffect-ctr.html

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chrisknight

15 years ago

It drives me crazy also that we're not meeting our member support response speed targets.

That's why we've hired 10+ new full-time members of our team over the past 6 weeks, including a full time trainer to help bring our newbie Editors into a level of consistency.

In May, we'll be hiring 5 more full time members of our Editorial team.

Every article is reviewed by two humans. I don't know if everyone knows this or not. We actually deflect thousands of first editor mistakes before you see the final article review action. The first review is by our front line Editor and the 2nd review is by a Sr. QC Editor.

Key point: No article or account is grandfathered in. That means, every new article submitted or old article edited has today's current standards applied to the review.

As far as the tags being stripped out, that's something I'll bring up on Monday with our Managing Editor. That should not be happening unless you over-do it massively (which I'm assuming you didn't).

I do agree... You should NOT have to use the WYSIWYG editor to make the font attributes stick. Good old HTML will do.

Steven: If only it were as easy as having one big meeting. I'd have had it years ago. Right now, I'm convinced the best way to get all of our team on the same page is continuous internal structured daily training. We're investing heavily in this by at least 100% more than we were a year ago.

ProductCreator guy: Sr. Editors get to work on Platinum level member submissions or they can earn their way up to become a QC Editor if their performance metrics show they've earned it.

It's true that our newbie Editors (and we hire a lot of them) learn the ropes on Basic level member submissions. That's why we have a 2nd QC editor who reviews their work; yet I acknowledge that we still make mistakes.

Billaaa777: We did have a slight category sort order problem where our system wasn't sorting each article like it was suppose to, but that's been resolved for the benefit of all members.

ALL: We get tens of thousands of articles a month that will never be published. Most of it is PLR, derivative works or other low-grade article vomit. These clog up our systems and we end up spending tens of thousands (that's not an exaggeration) of labor hours weeding through this to find the genuine quality original article submissions. Unfortunately, there is collateral damage when good or ideal members have their article viewed from a defensive position. We're aware of this and working on it.

There is also the speed vs. quality of review issue. We're under a lot a pressure to increase our review speed targets (you should be noticing better turn around this coming week vs. the past 2 months) but that comes at the risk of getting your article review not quite right sometimes.

If this whole Editorial process wasn't subjective, we'd have computers doing all of the work. Because it's so complex - we can't have computers do it. I apologize if you feel slighted. Please don't take it personal and we'll continue to invest in training, systems and improvements to the entire article submission process to make it less painful (as that's in our best interests also).

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LegitBlogger

15 years ago

Originally Posted by chrisknight

It drives me crazy also that we're not meeting our member support response speed targets.

That's why we've hired 10+ new full-time members of our team over the past 6 weeks, including a full time trainer to help bring our newbie Editors into a level of consistency.

In May, we'll be hiring 5 more full time members of our Editorial team.

Every article is reviewed by two humans. I don't know if everyone knows this or not. We actually deflect thousands of first editor mistakes before you see the final article review action. The first review is by our front line Editor and the 2nd review is by a Sr. QC Editor.

Key point: No article or account is grandfathered in. That means, every new article submitted or old article edited has today's current standards applied to the review.

As far as the tags being stripped out, that's something I'll bring up on Monday with our Managing Editor. That should not be happening unless you over-do it massively (which I'm assuming you didn't).

I do agree... You should NOT have to use the WYSIWYG editor to make the font attributes stick. Good old HTML will do.

Steven: If only it were as easy as having one big meeting. I'd have had it years ago. Right now, I'm convinced the best way to get all of our team on the same page is continuous internal structured daily training. We're investing heavily in this by at least 100% more than we were a year ago.

ProductCreator guy: Sr. Editors get to work on Platinum level member submissions or they can earn their way up to become a QC Editor if their performance metrics show they've earned it.

It's true that our newbie Editors (and we hire a lot of them) learn the ropes on Basic level member submissions. That's why we have a 2nd QC editor who reviews their work; yet I acknowledge that we still make mistakes.

Billaaa777: We did have a slight category sort order problem where our system wasn't sorting each article like it was suppose to, but that's been resolved for the benefit of all members.

ALL: We get tens of thousands of articles a month that will never be published. Most of it is PLR, derivative works or other low-grade article vomit. These clog up our systems and we end up spending tens of thousands (that's not an exaggeration) of labor hours weeding through this to find the genuine quality original article submissions. Unfortunately, there is collateral damage when good or ideal members have their article viewed from a defensive position. We're aware of this and working on it.

There is also the speed vs. quality of review issue. We're under a lot a pressure to increase our review speed targets (you should be noticing better turn around this coming week vs. the past 2 months) but that comes at the risk of getting your article review not quite right sometimes.

If this whole Editorial process wasn't subjective, we'd have computers doing all of the work. Because it's so complex - we can't have computers do it. I apologize if you feel slighted. Please don't take it personal and we'll continue to invest in training, systems and improvements to the entire article submission process to make it less painful (as that's in our best interests also).

THUMBS UP for Chris for coming in here lots of times to
clear things up. Not many CEOs nor so-called "Goobers" do
that. I find this incredibly impressive. Speaks volumes for
why EzineArticles is what it is today. Keep up the good
work Chris, and please we DON'T LIKE that adsense
ads are now after our article titles. Like Steven has
noticed in the other thread - this has lowered our CTR.
Please REchange this to the former that doesn't have
the ads after the titles but after the entire article.

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JonathanBoettcher

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Well, if you think they're driving you crazy now, wait until you see what
they've done to the format of how your articles appear online.

http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ffect-ctr.html

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Emmanuel Betinis 15 years ago

Well, yeah...

But that's his choice and I respect that.

The only thing I'm hung up on here is
their contradictory approval process. I've
had 8 articles in a row get rejected all of
a sudden, when several articles I've
previously published that are now live
have the exact same anchor text formatting.

(Their reason for rejecting the articles
is because of that; "excessive use
of anchor text").

Nonetheless, I appreciate his willingness to make a post
here after many negative comments have been
made towards eZineArticles.com in general
on this forum lately.

Not a huge deal. I must adapt and continue forward.

I only felt it was right to voice my opinion
and ask if others were noticing the same.

So, lets keep on moving...Rockin' and rollin'...adapting with the changes!
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Terry Hatfield

15 years ago

It may not be the keyword you are going after. It just may be a different word that you are overusing.

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morwanneg

15 years ago

Sometimes they do. I'm still observing my stats. I'm trying to see if the changes to their layout will affect my ctr.

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vrobert42

15 years ago

You are absolutely right ezinearticle has issues. I have problems like that with them all the time. Article Base is much better with less headaches, and just as good exposure.

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Emmanuel Betinis

15 years ago

Originally Posted by vrobert42

You are absolutely right ezinearticle has issues. I have problems like that with them all the time. Article Base is much better with less headaches, and just as good exposure.

Just to clear this up for everyone, it's articlesbase.com (with an 's').

There's a difference.

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