Is there a niche you avoid?

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More of a personal question than a business one.

Is there a niche you avoid for religious or moral reasons? Or just doesn't 'sit right' with you?

Is there a niche that bores you to tears?

Personally, although I love animals, I'd never go into the pet niche. I find it all a bit too saccharine sweet for me, and some animal lovers are quite militant and a bit freaky. There are already enough scary cat ladies out there without me encouraging them.

I'd also never do the adult niche. I just don't want that kind of stuff on my computer. What if my kids find it?!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Schuman
    Porn and violence for moral reasons.
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    Gambling and vice niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author ymest
    Yes, porn, gambling or anything to do with cancer and other serious diseases that can only be handled by an MD. If I write about health anyway, I give facts, some little common sense advice, sometimes my opinion, but never the PROMISE of a cure or anything.

    Gambling, not because I have moral issues about it but because I have no real interest in it and do no want to spend time and money on the matter even though, apparently it's very lucrative!

    Porn, I avoid totally. Some do it much better than me! : Honestly, not interested.

    I used to shy away from anything thechnological but I once had to write for someone about some technological stuff and in the end, I quite like it! So, it can vary but the 3 ones above, I'll never do!

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    Porn, viagra and gambling, too for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nicole K
    You should avoid anything that you would not like to talk to your mother about. Sorry to be a bit dramatic but that is the easiest way to put it. :-).
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  • Profile picture of the author CsabaSzücs
    "make money online" niche

    There are more opportunities out there and just think about it. If you know how to market, I mean you know the online tools you need and you have some marketing knowledge than you can earn a lot more if you target people, who are not so familiar the certain methods, which are used within the "make money online" niche. But that's just my opinion.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by scrunchie View Post

    Is there a niche you avoid for religious or moral reasons? Or just doesn't 'sit right' with you?

    Is there a niche that bores you to tears?
    Yes, I avoid Forex/trading (which is a real nuisance for me, because it's probably the niche I know most about and could write about more easily than any other :p ) because I don't like the products/services available at all.

    There are other niches I wouldn't touch, too, I'm sure, but I can't remember them now. Prescription drugs, for a start ... and others ...
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael_Le
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      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Yes, I avoid Forex/trading (which is a real nuisance for me, because it's probably the niche I know most about and could write about more easily than any other :p ) because I don't like the products/services available at all.

      There are other niches I wouldn't touch, too, I'm sure, but I can't remember them now. Prescription drugs, for a start ... and others ...
      so whats your exp on trading? and do you post on trade2win?
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    • Profile picture of the author koreancowboy
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Yes, I avoid Forex/trading (which is a real nuisance for me, because it's probably the niche I know most about and could write about more easily than any other :p ) because I don't like the products/services available at all.

      There are other niches I wouldn't touch, too, I'm sure, but I can't remember them now. Prescription drugs, for a start ... and others ...
      LOL funny you should mention this, my mates and I are currently building a number of forex sites. Do you have any spare articles laying around that you can donate to the cause?

      Anyways, I was originally in the adult niche, but left that behind for personal and professional reasons. Personally, because I knew that I would never find a good woman that would support me in what I'm doing, and also for religious reasons (I converted to LDS back in '09).

      Professionally speaking, the industry was/is moving towards tube sites with adverts. In other words, it was getting harder (no pun intended) to monetise the sites that I had.
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      • Profile picture of the author moreno
        Originally Posted by koreancowboy View Post

        LOL funny you should mention this, my mates and I are currently building a number of forex sites. Do you have any spare articles laying around that you can donate to the cause?

        Anyways, I was originally in the adult niche, but left that behind for personal and professional reasons. Personally, because I knew that I would never find a good woman that would support me in what I'm doing, and also for religious reasons (I converted to LDS back in '09).

        Professionally speaking, the industry was/is moving towards tube sites with adverts. In other words, it was getting harder (no pun intended) to monetise the sites that I had.
        I wonder about Lsd ...still around ? i use it in '67 but never made a religion ...
        actually i think better not to be in niche to just cheat peoples, better something that you can live with ...but this is personal.
        have fun
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by Michael_Le View Post

        so whats your exp on trading? and do you post on trade2win?
        My father's been a professional forex trader since before I was born, and still is. I'm a member of Trade2Win and have made maybe 5-10 posts there (probably mostly facetious/sarcastic one-line ripostes to people who imagine that "backfitted systems" which have made profits over the last 6 months are likely to over the next 6 months :rolleyes: ). I do about 15-20 trades per month, all intraday. I trade by technical analysis only, but without "indicators" which I believe to be totally delusional nonsense. I said a bit more here: http://www.warriorforum.com/off-topi...ml#post6565670 . You?

        Originally Posted by koreancowboy View Post

        LOL funny you should mention this, my mates and I are currently building a number of forex sites. Do you have any spare articles laying around that you can donate to the cause?
        LOL, no, sorry - I've never been in this niche as a marketer, so have never written one at all. I have 50 textbooks lying around, but they're not so easy to send!

        Originally Posted by koreancowboy View Post

        I knew that I would never find a good woman that would support me in what I'm doing, and also for religious reasons (I converted to LDS back in '09).
        Over here, that more commonly stands for Licentiate in Dental Surgery, rather than Latter Day Saints ("just saying"!).

        Good luck with your forex sites.
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        • Profile picture of the author Michael_Le
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          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          My father's been a professional forex trader since before I was born, and still is. I'm a member of Trade2Win and have made maybe 5-10 posts there (probably mostly facetious/sarcastic one-line ripostes to people who imagine that "backfitted systems" which have made profits over the last 6 months are likely to over the next 6 months :rolleyes: ). I do about 15-20 trades per month, all intraday.
          u trade intraday? my question then is how do you find all that time to post here everyday and still have the concentration to actively monitor your intra day trades as well as being a internet marketer? what you use for technicals, candles? fibs? stochs?

          so how old are you?

          7 years with bastions.......i now trade long term stocks.
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          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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            Originally Posted by Michael_Le View Post

            my question then is how do you find all that time to post here everyday and still have the concentration to actively monitor your intra day trades as well as being a internet marketer?
            LOL, I have one main "trading set-up" which either arises, or not, at exactly the same time every day, at which time it takes me about 20 seconds to enter a trade if there's one to enter. It closes itself automatically, on hitting either my target or my trailing stop-loss.

            I know it looks like I'm here 10 hours per day, but normally it's 5-10 minutes per hour, out of those hours.

            Originally Posted by Michael_Le View Post

            what you use for technicals, candles?
            I prefer bar-charts to candle-charts, but both contain and display exactly the same information, don't they?

            Originally Posted by Michael_Le View Post

            fibs? stochs?
            Nooooo ... as mentioned above, I don't believe in indicators at all. They're "trading"'s equivalent of article marketing's "duplicate content penalty", in other words they're totally fictional and completely nonsensical, and have absolutely no "predictive" value whatsoever.

            Originally Posted by Michael_Le View Post

            so how old are you?
            I'm 10111 now, but that's only in computer language.

            Originally Posted by Michael_Le View Post

            7 years with bastions.......i now trade long term stocks.
            Ooh, I've never traded stocks at all, and know nothing about it.
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              • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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                Originally Posted by Michael_Le View Post

                now i'm confused.......you say your a technical trader but you don't use technical indicators
                It's a bit of a misconception that TA necessarily involves "indicators". There's actually plenty of "technical analysis" that doesn't involve "indicators" at all.

                Originally Posted by Michael_Le View Post

                so that would make you a fundamental trader would it not?
                Er .... no.

                Originally Posted by Michael_Le View Post

                which leads me to my next question, if you don't use technical indicators, how do you know which trades to enter or not?
                With apologies, I'm not giving away my trading methods on the board; please excuse me.

                Originally Posted by Michael_Le View Post

                why don't you come over to trade2win and we can continue this conversation on your thoughts about technical indicators being nonsense cos i'm sure as hell alot of the traders there would totally disagree with you....as do i.
                Well, there are certainly some members at T2W who share my attitude to "indicators", too. I know a lot of home-based and amateur traders (and even some who consider themselves professionals) claim to find indicators very valuable. I subscribe more to the "Joe Ross school", i.e. of feeling that they're very good at displaying "what's just happened" but have no real predictive value. You'll find quite a lot of full-time hedge fund/bank traders also have this attitude. For example, many people trading range breakouts are not relying on indicators at all. (Nor, for that matter, were the famous "Turtle Traders", of whom you're doubtless aware? Their techniques were purely TA but didn't involve indicators at all. Slightly "historical" now, I grant you ).

                Somewhere in the Off Topic folder there's a forex thread in which I made a few posts a year or two ago with a couple of links to previous trades of mine, showing little charts, points of entry/exit and so on. I'm not certain whether the links still work, but if I can find that post later, when I have a little more time, I'll come back and edit this post by adding a link to it. No promises (I just had a quick look a minute ago and couldn't find it: it's going to take more time, I think! ).

                I trade only Forex. (In the past I've traded the indices a little, but less successfully and less comfortably - and never individual stocks at all. I prefer Forex).

                Originally Posted by Michael_Le View Post

                why don't you come over to trade2win
                Sorry - no time at the moment. (I've only ever made 6 posts there, it seems - I thought it was a little more than that!).

                (We're way off topic, here: respectfully, if you want to discuss Forex, I suggest maybe starting a thread in the Off Topic forum?).
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                • Profile picture of the author heavysm
                  I have not yet progressed in my business enough to where I would need to consider any questionable niches. I will slightly bend the original question to say that there are definitely marketing methods I refuse to use, though they be incredibly profitable. Open deceit marketing has so far made me cringe than any niche I have seen so far. But that's just me lol
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                  • Profile picture of the author myob
                    Originally Posted by Michael_Le View Post

                    even if you did reveal your trading strategy here, this is a IM forum, i doubt anyone is going to run with it.
                    On the contrary; if you do a topic search and analyze the results, an astute observer will find strong indicators that there are indeed far more active traders and investors right here in the WF than you could imagine.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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                    Originally Posted by Michael_Le View Post

                    besides you could always PM me.
                    Will do that.
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        • Profile picture of the author koreancowboy
          LOL, no, sorry - I've never been in this niche as a marketer, so have never written one at all. I have 50 textbooks lying around, but they're not so easy to send!

          Over here, that more commonly stands for Licentiate in Dental Surgery, rather than Latter Day Saints ("just saying"!).

          Good luck with your forex sites.
          Thanks! LOL my father-in-law's Dad was a dentist. Touche.

          No worries, just thought I would check to see. From your marketing perspective, what would you think would be the way to go with the Forex sites?
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          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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            Originally Posted by koreancowboy View Post

            From your marketing perspective, what would you think would be the way to go with the Forex sites?
            I don't know; part of my problem with this niche is that I have a participant's/customer's perspective rather than a marketer's one. I do think there's a big sector of traffic demographics available in this niche (an educated/upmarket/affluent one) to which very few "independent marketers" are catering at all. But I suspect that the main reason for that is the lack of suitable/appropriate things to promote. These are people (and there are large numbers of them, even in this economy!) who won't buy "indicator-based trading methods", clearly won't buy "EA's for MT" and - wisely - certainly won't open accounts with retail Forex bucketshops or chop-shops without doing lots of due diligence and maybe taking legal advice. So in many ways, I'm the worst person to ask; sorry. I've been thinking about this niche on and off for over 4 years, now, but so far without finding a way for myself to get into it. And all that in spite of my own father being "in the trade".
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  • Profile picture of the author jgant
    Any niche I don't know, don't have experience in and/or am not interested in learning more.

    This wipes out a lot of niches for me, but it makes niche selection easy.

    I wouldn't exclude any niche on moral grounds if I knew about it, but I avoid niches if there are potentially legal repurcussions to it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marcus Rockey
    It can be hard to engage in any niche that you have little or no knowledge about.

    Marketing has its fair share of work load so adding an extra dynamic of having to find decent topics to product content for is a no go for me.

    My tip is to stay with passions, experiences and areas that you love!

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    • Profile picture of the author jamescanz
      Gambling.

      As much as I love playing texas hold 'em and have had some good success with it in the past ...

      Not my cup of tea when it comes to niches.
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    I agree with the porn and hype for religious beliefs
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    I avoid all of them.

    Except for my passion which is unfortunately

    Make Money Online
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  • Profile picture of the author Bill Hugall
    Porn, but not for moral reasons. It costs a ton to get into.
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  • Profile picture of the author pheonix44
    I would say you should avoid niches that deal with medical solutions of any type. I am talking about diseases and such. Like a long time ago I did work about diabetes that made me feel really uncomfortable.
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    • Profile picture of the author rmolina88
      Originally Posted by pheonix44 View Post

      I would say you should avoid niches that deal with medical solutions of any type. I am talking about diseases and such. Like a long time ago I did work about diabetes that made me feel really uncomfortable.
      As someone who suffers from skin problems like psoriasis and is incredibly knowledgeable about it, I also avoid the medical niche for the same reason. It's hard for me to talk about stuff like scabs, blisters, etc... ugh!

      Plus, my old 9-5 was for a medical company, so I'd like to get away from anything related to that for my own sanity. :rolleyes:
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        Originally Posted by rmolina88 View Post

        As someone who suffers from skin problems like psoriasis and is incredibly knowledgeable about it, I also avoid the medical niche for the same reason. It's hard for me to talk about stuff like scabs, blisters, etc... ugh!

        Plus, my old 9-5 was for a medical company, so I'd like to get away from anything related to that for my own sanity. :rolleyes:
        But why? There are cures for these diseases, what if you were genuinely trying to cure people, is there opposition strong enough to deter you, or still uncomfortable? Or, is it something else.
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    I want nothing to do with the adult, gambling, or tobacco industries.
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    Way. too. saturated and overdone and not out-of-the-box-y enough.
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    I once turned down an opportunity to help start an Escort service in Abu Dhabi
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  • Profile picture of the author galitsyn
    If you don't have good resources to compete in an overcrowded niche, surely avoid it. Pick small but scaleable niches, for example:

    "how to do hardwood floors yourself" can grow into a big DIY niche

    "growing holland roses" can grow into a home gardening niche, and so on

    But do your throughout research first. Always.
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    The only thing I avoid is what doesn't make me money.
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  • Profile picture of the author jpboxersox
    I avoid the health niche now because Health niches can be tricky because many people would rather rely on sites like WebMd or their own DR. I tried the more embarrassing niches like the Penis Enlargement niche with great success in the beginning. If you want health Stick with niches that people will feel embarrassed to talk to their DR about.
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      Originally Posted by jpboxersox View Post

      I avoid the health niche now because Health niches can be tricky because many people would rather rely on sites like WebMd or their own DR. I tried the more embarrassing niches like the Penis Enlargement niche with great success in the beginning. If you want health Stick with niches that people will feel embarrassed to talk to their DR about.
      I kind of figured that...thanks for the tip mate!
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    Vices, gambling, spam and junk. I avoid those.
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    I'm on the fence about loans.
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  • Profile picture of the author Abhik
    I don't *avoid* any niche, just don't work on them due to lack of experiences.
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    • Profile picture of the author AprilCT
      Anything I don't know enough about or that is totally boring. Both would be disastrous. As a writer, putting my name on something that could be wrong or lead someone the wrong way, it's just not worthwhile. Now, there are, of course, other criteria, does a product meet my own moral requirements and beliefs, is the niche dominated by too many others who know so much more than me where I really can't compete -- probably a lot more things, but that's a few things that come to mind.
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    Couple of niche here, one of them is porn niche
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    I try not to do anything that forces me to try and be different, whereas to do something that shows my difference from all the others quite simply.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      For nearly two months now, I have completely avoided the recently expired Mayan 2012 prophesy niche.

      "Prophesy is a good line of business, but it is full of risks."
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    porn or antyhing to do with illegal drugs.
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    Religion for me. My skepticism tends to come across somewhere in my writing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Larry Leggett
    I always avoid Adult niche. It decreases moral value.
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  • Profile picture of the author jimvol
    Originally Posted by scrunchie View Post

    More of a personal question than a business one.

    Is there a niche you avoid for religious or moral reasons? Or just doesn't 'sit right' with you?

    Is there a niche that bores you to tears?

    Personally, although I love animals, I'd never go into the pet niche. I find it all a bit too saccharine sweet for me, and some animal lovers are quite militant and a bit freaky. There are already enough scary cat ladies out there without me encouraging them.

    I'd also never do the adult niche. I just don't want that kind of stuff on my computer. What if my kids find it?!!
    Yes, porn and gambling are off the table because of my personal values.

    However, I was once trying to find a product to promote and found a product that was promoting "natural cures for cancer" or something like that.

    I started to write an article and got about 1/4 of the way done and just hit delete. I couldn't in good conscience promote a product that I was not 100% confident in.

    I mean, what would have happened if I promoted the product and someone with cancer tried what the product had in it and died as a result of not seeking proper treatment.

    I just couldn't sleep with that.

    Thanks!

    Jim
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  • Profile picture of the author CheapTrafficDude
    As long as it's legal, if it's profitable it's worth getting into IMO considering you have the start up capital for it. I don't get what the big deal with with p0rn, it's human reproductive nature in video and 95% of the population watches it while the remainder of the 5% grows blue balls and sexually frustrated. It's all about the money, all the time, if it's profitable, it makes your family live better, then why let moral and religion get in the way of a better future.

    If you don't have capital then stay away from MMO, Weight-Loss, Lawyers, Marijuana, real estate, travel, gambling, briefly, anything where leads are worth in the 4 figures a year.
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  • Profile picture of the author fixie
    I don't deal with feminine products like cosmetics because I don't see my self investing my passion into such things. Ladies, please don't be offended
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeTucker
    Thus far, I have avoided the MMO/IM niches... I can't think of
    anything worse than trying to make money from a bunch of
    broke people. :p


    Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

    PUA crap
    Had to look that one up. haha how lame, people will try
    to make money from anything I guess.
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  • Profile picture of the author MrJonny
    In terms of Adsense, I avoid the depression niche. I had a site in there and the CTR was pretty depressing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
    Serious illnesses niches I wouldn't touch. Unless I could genuinely offer real and helpful information on it but I doubt I could not being medically trained.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay VetsBills
    For years we worked in the IM market however over recent times this has become very competitive so decided to branch our wings elsewhere!

    Eventually we decided to focus on the pet niche, what brought us to this conclusion was by finding out how much competition there is out there. It sounds pretty straight forward, however I would avoid niches where there are lots of competition for your product. You need to find an angle with your product, it is no good just creating something in a market and hoping it will sell cos its great. There always needs to be an angle, an angle that people can relate to!
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