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Can i turn a book into a website? Will google not like this idea?

by Carolynn
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My top competitors put out a free ebook, but the books they put out are are too short and lack depth. I can do a better job writing one except the subject is fit for a website if done properly.

If I break down their ebooks and create pages post etc, you know, content rich website and target the market who is more likely to read their book, will that be a successful model?

I will not be copying. I will be curing my writers block when it comes to freezing up and procrastinating online, as I so often do. I will be curving the content and rewriting it to fit the needs of members.

My competition consist of mainly these two people. I want to crush them by supporting their end users. They make how to videos and sell them to us professional in the field, but they often lack creativity, that's not to say those good videos don't exist because they do. But their videos are not my competition they have the customer base I want because these people like me went to them looking for something they advertised but didn't "fully provide".

Why because one is based on how to and the other is based in the keep buying these from me to make more money, but, you never make more money, you just keep buying these genre.

I want to do what they are not doing.
#book #google #idea #turn #website
  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Carolynn View Post

    I will be curving the content and rewriting it to fit the needs of members.
    I haven't heard of "curving" content. I've heard of "re-writing" it, of course (and have been a victim of it, too, with things I've written). Is "curving" a defense to a lawsuit alleging that you've created a "derivative work" from something to which you don't own the copyright? Please excuse my asking in those terms, but what you describe above really does sound to me exactly like creating a "derivative work".

    Just a question, Carolynn, and asked with no assumptions, but how would you honestly feel about someone referring in a forum to "breaking down her ebooks", over something you'd written? Would you welcome it, or might you wonder if your copyright was being exploited for the financial benefit of other people? It's not an unreasonable question, is it?

    Originally Posted by Carolynn View Post

    I want to do what they are not doing.
    Just a suggestion, but why not approach them and ask whether they might be interested in exploring the potential for some kind of joint venture, rather than setting out to base something on their material by breaking it down?

    Originally Posted by Carolynn View Post

    My competition consist of mainly these two people. I want to crush them
    It's an unusual motivation ... I can't help wondering whether, in your position, I might be a little more concerned about how they'll react, than being concerned that Google might not like it.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Rogers
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      what you describe above really does sound to me exactly like creating a "derivative work".
      Me too. And if you're going into direct competition with them, which you say you are, the more likely they are to send an attorney after you. All it takes is one of their customers to tell them that you're ripping off their work.
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    • Profile picture of the author Carolynn
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      I haven't heard of "curving" content. I've heard of "re-wrtiing" it, of course (and have been a victim of it, too, with things I've written). Is "curving" a defense to a lawsuit alleging that you've created a "derivative work" from something to which you don't own the copyright? Please excuse my asking in those terms, but what you describe above really does sound to me exactly like creating a "derivative work".

      Just a question, Carolynn, and asked with no assumptions, but how would you honestly feel about someone referring in a forum to "breaking down her ebooks", over something you'd written? Would you welcome it, or might you wonder if your copyright was being exploited for the financial benefit of other people? It's not an unreasonable question, is it?



      Just a suggestion, but why not approach them and ask whether they might be interested in exploring the potential for some kind of joint venture, rather than setting out to base something on their material by breaking it down?



      It's an unusual motivation ... I can't help wondering whether, in your position, I might be a little more concerned about how they'll react, than being concerned that Google might not like it.

      You know what curving is because you just curved my simple question about beating my competitors into malevolent intent.

      Read the rest of my stuff and this over again to grasp my motivation unless you were being facetious.

      I won't have my integrity questioned especially when I'm trying to offer real value to peoples lives FOR FREE by a probably well to do IMer! Who's already made money online "rinse repeat".

      And to be even shorter with you Alexa, John? their content is not unique "it's in a book" and categorized "keywords", websites are just books on steroids anyway.

      We the people who are in this field are taught from infancy, they put it in a book, I want to build a website, sounds like gold to me. There are 14 million of us in the U.S. only. Should I leave the 6 million who actually do practice to the mercy of these 2 books? HUH?!?! Things are mothers, mother taught us plagiarism Really!! When did people start owning culture? When did a niche as broad as braid mathematics become owned? It's science.

      I so think you guys are being extremists, when it comes to ideas and plagiarism that or maybe I was not clear and you didn't read my whole question where I said can I be more clear...

      Everything is so extreme these days.
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  • Profile picture of the author howtogurus
    Originally Posted by Carolynn View Post

    If I break down their ebooks and create pages post etc, you know, content rich website and target the market who is more likely to read their book, will that be a successful model?

    I will not be copying. I will be curing my writers block when it comes to freezing up and procrastinating online, as I so often do. I will be curving the content and rewriting it to fit the needs of members.
    Rewriting the content based on their book is a derivative work. Breaking down their ebooks to turn it into a web site is a derivative work. No problem with writing or building a web site based on the same concepts or theme, just make sure that it is in no way related to or derived from their ebook.
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    • Profile picture of the author Carolynn
      honesty, thank you!
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    Carolyn, I reached this thread via a link you posted in another thread. Indeed, you were not clear. Or perhaps more accurately, you were not specific enough.

    Originally Posted by Carolynn View Post

    If I break down their ebooks and create pages post etc, you know, content rich website and target the market who is more likely to read their book, will that be a successful model?

    I will not be copying. I will be curing my writers block when it comes to freezing up and procrastinating online, as I so often do. I will be curving the content and rewriting it to fit the needs of members.
    Look at the parts of your original post which I've made bold, and tell me how people on a discussion forum might get the idea that you wanted to take the content your competitors use and charge for (even if the charge is an email address rather than money) and put it on a free website.

    Add in the statement that you have two competitors who you want to "crush" (your word, not mine) by using their own content against them, and you are pretty much begging to have your integrity questioned.

    Perhaps if you had spent a moment defining what you meant by "curving the content" rather than getting defensive, you might not get the reaction you got.

    Add the fact that there are a lot of people running around telling people that anything posted online is essentially 'public domain' without knowing what that actually means, and the sewer rats advising people that outright stealing is okay because some people can't create their own and the stage is set.

    You may not have intended to commit content theft. I get from your passionate response that you didn't. But what you prosposed, in the way you proposed it, sure looked like theft, intentional or not.

    Don't get so angry when someone hears a quacking noise and says "hey, it's a duck..."
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