Are you still offering bonuses with your products?

by blackhawkup Banned
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I've noticed a lot of products as of lately aren't offering bonuses. in the WSO forum and off (clickbank, etc,etc).

Are bonuses still effective and/or necessary?

If so.

How do you determine if a product should be offered as a bonus vs. an OTO?

Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    Originally Posted by Rich Jackson View Post

    I've noticed a lot of products as of lately aren't offering bonuses. in the WSO forum and off (clickbank, etc,etc).

    Are bonuses still effective and/or necessary?
    Are they still effective? Good, appropriate bonuses are. Are they necessary? No, they never were necessary.

    The purpose of a bonus is to add a little something extra to sweeten the deal and maybe tip a few fence sitters your way.

    Originally Posted by Rich Jackson View Post

    If so.

    How do you determine if a product should be offered as a bonus vs. an OTO?

    Thanks.
    Is the main product complete without the secondary product? Can the buyer get the promised benefit?

    If the answer is no, make the secondary product a bonus.

    Can the secondary product stand on its own? If someone had the secondary product without the primary, would they find value in it?

    If yes, OTO. If no, bonus.

    At least, that's how I see it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Rich Jackson View Post

    Are bonuses still effective and/or necessary?
    I don't think they're "necessary". (If they're "necessary", that's probably indicative of some underlying problem with the whole sales process.)

    I think they're effective if they're appropriate and relevant and there aren't more than two of them (and one's better still, in my opinion).

    I think having four or five not-too-relevant bonuses comes across to many potential customers more or less as a sign of desperation, detracts from the product offer, and loses both credibility and sales.

    I know from earlier conversations here that at least some people offering large numbers of bonuses have found an increase in their conversion rates by removing most of them from the sales page (though it's sometimes been an uphill struggle to persuade them to try it!), and I think that should surprise nobody, really. In other words, it's relatively easy to overdo bonuses.

    Originally Posted by Rich Jackson View Post

    How do you determine if a product should be offered as a bonus vs. an OTO?
    I agree with John's comments above: if something's integral to the product and/or necessary for it to be used/interpreted as intended/desired, then it should be a bonus. If it's entirely separate, then it can be an OTO.
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  • Profile picture of the author theaccountant
    we are doing 5 simultaneous launches now. We believe all the value should be in that one single product. People are generally too busy to go through tons of bonuses and they tend to get overwhelmed and put off by this.
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  • Profile picture of the author thedanbrown
    Offering a bonus is all well and good but I find the problem most marketers have is they offer all these bonuses and the prospect ends up confused, thinking "am i buying this for the product or the bonuses?"

    If someone thinks that to themself chances are they won't buy because it means that the marketer feels compelled to offer up a bunch of bonuses because the main product itself isn't worth much...

    Using bonuses is STILL a great idea and sales tool but you should offer bonuses that compliment the main product. For example, if you are selling a product on how to lose weight then a bonus could be a daily check list or a step-by-step action plan to follow, see what I'm saying?

    Your bonuses should always compliment the product and make it easier for the customer to take action.
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  • Profile picture of the author Raydal
    Well, some authors have become #1 Best Sellers by offering
    $1,500 in "valuable bonuses" for making a $13.95 purchase.

    I'd say they are still valuable.

    -Ray Edwards
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by Raydal View Post

      Well, some authors have become #1 Best Sellers by offering
      $1,500 in "valuable bonuses" for making a $13.95 purchase.

      I'd say they are still valuable.

      -Ray Edwards
      I'd say they were valuable to those authors, no doubt.

      The first time I saw one of those offers was one of Mark Joyner's hardcover books. He promised over $10,000 in bonuses. Joe Vitale upped the ante, promising over $20K in bonuses.

      Both "bonuses" ended up as massive giveaway events. Collecting the full value of the bonus would have meant opting in to over a hundred lists, and many of the products were crap thrown together to participate in the JV giveaway.

      I haven't bothered with a JV giveaway since.
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      • Profile picture of the author blackhawkup
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        Great answers guys and gals.

        I read that a strategy being used was to offer a bonus that is comparative or better than the actual product and market the hell out of said bonus. causing the customer to desire the bonus so deeply that they are forced to purchase in order to get their hands on the bonus.

        Again this seems sketchy to me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lucian Lada
    Something I've just seen yesterday and that put me off, as a customer: bonuses that I can actually get for free somewhere else. In this case, they were the "bribe" other websites were offering for subscribing to their lists. What bonus is that? That you spared me a couple of minutes to sign up and get it myself? But some people just believe the more, the better...

    Originally Posted by Raydal View Post

    Well, some authors have become #1 Best Sellers by offering
    $1,500 in "valuable bonuses" for making a $13.95 purchase.

    I'd say they are still valuable.

    -Ray Edwards
    Ray, I don't question your expertise, but doesn't that look a bit suspicious to you? So I buy something for 14 bucks and I get bonuses that are worth more than 100 times that amount? There's something fishy about it - either they were inflating the perceived price, either they were selling themselves short, but that's my customer's opinion, and should be treated as such.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Lucian Lada View Post

      So I buy something for 14 bucks and I get bonuses that are worth more than 100 times that amount? There's something fishy about it -
      I'll say. And that's putting it mildly.

      You won't find anyone in Ray's league producing anything like that, though: those are sales pages written either by the vendors themselves, copying what they've seen other vendors doing, or at best by people pretending to be copywriters.
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    • Profile picture of the author Raydal
      Originally Posted by Lucian Lada View Post

      Ray, I don't question your expertise, but doesn't that look a bit suspicious to you? So I buy something for 14 bucks and I get bonuses that are worth more than 100 times that amount? There's something fishy about it - either they were inflating the perceived price, either they were selling themselves short, but that's my customer's opinion, and should be treated as such.
      You are questioning my expertise in making tongue-in-cheek
      statements.

      There are bonuses and there are "bribes". I too feel
      uncomfortable to provide such incentives to buy
      my book and then call myself a "#1 Amazon Bestseller".

      -Ray Edwards
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        Although I have no experience in using an "OTO" for incentivization, there is a place for using bonuses as part of an effective marketing campaign. I still offer at least one relevant bonus with every product I sell to enhance conversions. However, for maximum effect, the product and promotional system should stand alone on their own merits. Quite often a bonus may be expected by prospects, but for establishing a foundation of credible continuity, its perceived value should be far below anticipated valuation of the underlying product.
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  • Profile picture of the author ceenote100
    Bonuses aren't necessary but they add a little value to your site. Most customers probably wouldn't bother with them and just focus on the main product. It's the fact that you're getting something extra for free causes you to purchase subconsciously.
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