How did you make your first $1,000,000 online?

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Because "How did you make..." it is a trendy question, I want to ask you:
How did you make your first $1,000,000 online?

I'm sure, some of you can tell us the story.
Who dares to start?
#make #online
  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    Don't be asking that question here...save it for the Frank Kerns and Eban Pagans of the world. Warriors don't make millions.

    The big dumb idea (I'm not even going to glorify it by referring to it as the "myth") most people seem to have when they stumble into the forum is that they are going to find something that will make them a million dollars with a few clicks.

    Baloney.

    That's what it is.

    Baloney.

    Nobody here has made a million dollars.

    OK, you have ICUN and a couple other guys...Maybe...maybe someone who started out here has made a million. But they aren't hanging around here anymore. Warriors are poor. Warriors want something for nothing.

    OK, not all of them. But a lot of them. Enough of them.

    Fortunately, enough of them are NOT, and are here to share what they know. That's what makes it worth being here every so often. But if you spend your whole day here, you won't be making a dime; I promise you.

    There might be 5 or 6 people who started on the WF and made a sizable chunk of change off heavily-affiliated WSO releases. It was not their first WSO, nor their fifth, I bet. Tough learning curve for this stuff.

    The rest...the rest are happy if they make a couple thousand bucks.

    So: REALITY CHECK.

    Figure out how to make your FIRST dollar online. Don't worry about the millions. If you can't make one dollar, you can't make millions.

    I've been doing this for awhile now and what I know is: there's so much I don't know. First there are the pieces of the puzzle (autoresponder, squeeze pages, lead gen/PPC/adwords, web design, video production, so on and so on)...most of which you aren't even aware of for the first year of your journey. Second there's the "Wait, how does the puzzle fit together?" You think you have it right. Nope, things don't turn out the way you expected. You keep thinking you're one change away from hitting it big. Nope, doesn't work that way.

    Figure out how to make your first dollar online. It's so psychologically empowering. I had sold things worth hundreds of thousands of dollars in the "real world", but questioned whether someone who had never even met me would shell out $20 for an info product. I remember the first sale. Friday night. An Australian buyer. Wow. It wasn't the money: it was the realization that this could work--and could be repeated.

    It's nice to think about $1,000,000. It's motivating. I know. But don't waste your time. Concentrate on making your first $1, and then how to repeat and scale up. You'll make real dollars instead of chasing the fantasy version.

    I know some won't like what I say here and will find it negative. I share this to give the reality check.
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    • Profile picture of the author JensSteyaert
      Even if there were people making millions here, why would you assume that they would give that information

      A better topic would be, What did you do to make a full time income online?
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      • Profile picture of the author surffab
        Originally Posted by JensSteyaert View Post

        Even if there were people making millions here, why would you assume that they would give that information

        A better topic would be, What did you do to make a full time income online?
        How to make a full time income sounds good.... would be nice to hear some stories....
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      • Profile picture of the author jgant
        Originally Posted by JensSteyaert View Post

        A better topic would be, What did you do to make a full time income online?
        I disagree. A full time income for one person may not cover a mortgage payment for another person. I have a family with student loans so for me a full time income is more than when I was single and before I went to university.
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      • Profile picture of the author Tyler S
        Originally Posted by JensSteyaert View Post

        Even if there were people making millions here, why would you assume that they would give that information

        A better topic would be, What did you do to make a full time income online?
        Agreed. Most people here are just trying to achieve an income, not a million dollars. Concentrate on making $1 a day, then $10 a day, and so on.
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        • Profile picture of the author salegurus
          When i see the figure millions being thrown around i normally switch off, but
          this thread is quite interesting...
          Geez this place is crawling with Millionaires....

          Originally Posted by theaccountant View Post

          That is a negative mindset . I am here to learn to make millions otherwise this place is of no use to me and my investors
          Get a grip man... your "investors" that's a new one. Normally it's "my team".
          Oh, and if you don't like negative AKA a dose of realism, fairy land is that >>>> way.
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          • Profile picture of the author theaccountant
            i don't insult i would be grateful for the same courtesy in return. I think in the real world I am at least as successful as you. I don't see the need for aggression. I do not need to make survival money I can assure you.My views represent my/our personal circumstances not others.

            You maybe envious, I feel sorry for you if that is the case.

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    • Profile picture of the author Dresden14
      Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

      Don't be asking that question here...save it for the Frank Kerns and Eban Pagans of the world. Warriors don't make millions.

      The big dumb idea (I'm not even going to glorify it by referring to it as the "myth") most people seem to have when they stumble into the forum is that they are going to find something that will make them a million dollars with a few clicks.

      Baloney.

      That's what it is.

      Baloney.

      Nobody here has made a million dollars.

      OK, you have ICUN and a couple other guys...Maybe...maybe someone who started out here has made a million. But they aren't hanging around here anymore. Warriors are poor. Warriors want something for nothing.

      OK, not all of them. But a lot of them. Enough of them.

      Fortunately, enough of them are NOT, and are here to share what they know. That's what makes it worth being here every so often. But if you spend your whole day here, you won't be making a dime; I promise you.

      There might be 5 or 6 people who started on the WF and made a sizable chunk of change off heavily-affiliated WSO releases. It was not their first WSO, nor their fifth, I bet. Tough learning curve for this stuff.

      The rest...the rest are happy if they make a couple thousand bucks.

      So: REALITY CHECK.

      Figure out how to make your FIRST dollar online. Don't worry about the millions. If you can't make one dollar, you can't make millions.

      I've been doing this for awhile now and what I know is: there's so much I don't know. First there are the pieces of the puzzle (autoresponder, squeeze pages, lead gen/PPC/adwords, web design, video production, so on and so on)...most of which you aren't even aware of for the first year of your journey. Second there's the "Wait, how does the puzzle fit together?" You think you have it right. Nope, things don't turn out the way you expected. You keep thinking you're one change away from hitting it big. Nope, doesn't work that way.

      Figure out how to make your first dollar online. It's so psychologically empowering. I had sold things worth hundreds of thousands of dollars in the "real world", but questioned whether someone who had never even met me would shell out $20 for an info product. I remember the first sale. Friday night. An Australian buyer. Wow. It wasn't the money: it was the realization that this could work--and could be repeated.

      It's nice to think about $1,000,000. It's motivating. I know. But don't waste your time. Concentrate on making your first $1, and then how to repeat and scale up. You'll make real dollars instead of chasing the fantasy version.

      I know some won't like what I say here and will find it negative. I share this to give the reality check.

      ...you must be doing it wrong, I've easily made that
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    • Profile picture of the author higherluv
      Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

      Figure out how to make your FIRST dollar online. Don't worry about the millions. If you can't make one dollar, you can't make millions.
      Well said!
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    • Profile picture of the author topgold
      Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

      Don't be asking that question here...save it for the Frank Kerns and Eban Pagans of the world. Warriors don't make millions.

      The big dumb idea (I'm not even going to glorify it by referring to it as the "myth") most people seem to have when they stumble into the forum is that they are going to find something that will make them a million dollars with a few clicks.

      Baloney.

      That's what it is.

      Baloney.

      Nobody here has made a million dollars.

      OK, you have ICUN and a couple other guys...Maybe...maybe someone who started out here has made a million. But they aren't hanging around here anymore. Warriors are poor. Warriors want something for nothing.

      OK, not all of them. But a lot of them. Enough of them.

      Fortunately, enough of them are NOT, and are here to share what they know. That's what makes it worth being here every so often. But if you spend your whole day here, you won't be making a dime; I promise you.

      There might be 5 or 6 people who started on the WF and made a sizable chunk of change off heavily-affiliated WSO releases. It was not their first WSO, nor their fifth, I bet. Tough learning curve for this stuff.

      The rest...the rest are happy if they make a couple thousand bucks.

      So: REALITY CHECK.

      Figure out how to make your FIRST dollar online. Don't worry about the millions. If you can't make one dollar, you can't make millions.

      I've been doing this for awhile now and what I know is: there's so much I don't know. First there are the pieces of the puzzle (autoresponder, squeeze pages, lead gen/PPC/adwords, web design, video production, so on and so on)...most of which you aren't even aware of for the first year of your journey. Second there's the "Wait, how does the puzzle fit together?" You think you have it right. Nope, things don't turn out the way you expected. You keep thinking you're one change away from hitting it big. Nope, doesn't work that way.

      Figure out how to make your first dollar online. It's so psychologically empowering. I had sold things worth hundreds of thousands of dollars in the "real world", but questioned whether someone who had never even met me would shell out $20 for an info product. I remember the first sale. Friday night. An Australian buyer. Wow. It wasn't the money: it was the realization that this could work--and could be repeated.

      It's nice to think about $1,000,000. It's motivating. I know. But don't waste your time. Concentrate on making your first $1, and then how to repeat and scale up. You'll make real dollars instead of chasing the fantasy version.

      I know some won't like what I say here and will find it negative. I share this to give the reality check.
      Love this way of thinking!
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeTucker
      Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

      Warriors don't make millions.

      ...Nobody here has made a million dollars.

      Yeah!!

      Allen Says, Jack Duncan, David Frye, Harvey Segal, Marlon Sanders,
      Sean Mize, and at least a dozen other warriors around here, they
      are all a bunch of struggling, broke wannabes who haven't made
      even 1 million dollars in the last decade! :rolleyes:



      Originally Posted by timbonitus View Post

      I seriously doubt the millionaire internet marketers are going to spend their time on a forum. They are probably too busy with seminars, interviews, and new projects.
      Some of them have admitted to using the WF for both market research
      and list-building-- And they lurk often, even if they avoid most of the
      daily drama.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
        Originally Posted by MikeTucker View Post

        Yeah!!

        Allen Says, Jack Duncan, David Frye, Harvey Segal, Marlon Sanders,
        Sean Mize, and at least a dozen other warriors around here, they
        are all a bunch of struggling, broke wannabes who haven't made
        even 1 million dollars in the last decade! :rolleyes:
        Betcha they didn't make the mil in this forum. It may have been a good sandbox. But the money is elsewhere. Have you looked at WF demographics? The average income is under $10K.

        The real issue here is the expectation that "anyone" or "lots of people" can and have made $1,000,000. No they have not, and no they will not. Most people lack the work ethic and stick-to-itivness to do it. So let's not fake people out with fantasies--let's get them on track to making their first dollar, their first sale online, and building on that. That's positive.
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        • Profile picture of the author Young Financier
          Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

          Betcha they didn't make the mil in this forum. It may have been a good sandbox. But the money is elsewhere. Have you looked at WF demographics? The average income is under $10K.

          The real issue here is the expectation that "anyone" or "lots of people" can and have made $1,000,000. No they have not, and no they will not. Most people lack the work ethic and stick-to-itivness to do it. So let's not fake people out with fantasies--let's get them on track to making their first dollar, their first sale online, and building on that. That's positive.
          B,b,but....the average title on a WSO says that the creator makes $25k a month. That'd certainly make them millionaires, right? Besides, they can put it on the internet if its not true. :rolleyes:
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          • Profile picture of the author theaccountant
            Originally Posted by Sean T Alexandre View Post

            B,b,but....the average title on a WSO says that the creator makes $25k a month. That'd certainly make them millionaires, right? Besides, they can put it on the internet if its not true. :rolleyes:
            lol hahahha I like the way you think
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeTucker
          Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

          Betcha they didn't make the mil in this forum. It may have been a good sandbox. But the money is elsewhere. Have you looked at WF demographics? The average income is under $10K.

          The real issue here is the expectation that "anyone" or "lots of people" can and have made $1,000,000. No they have not, and no they will not. Most people lack the work ethic and stick-to-itivness to do it. So let's not fake people out with fantasies--let's get them on track to making their first dollar, their first sale online, and building on that. That's positive.
          Right, but the OP didn't ask about making money from "the forum",
          he asked about how people have made their first million online?

          Now you're correct, most people need to be channeled back into reality.
          And these posts do get a bit annoying, that is true. But I don't really
          see what the harm is in letting people dream a little? After all, it is fairly
          difficult to be excited about a dollar.

          Besides, if the guy has decided he wants to make a million online,
          it only makes sense that he should ask people who have actually done it?
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          • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
            Originally Posted by MikeTucker View Post

            Right, but the OP didn't ask about making money from "the forum",
            he asked about how people have made their first million online?

            Now you're correct, most people need to be channeled back into reality.
            And these posts do get a bit annoying, that is true. But I don't really
            see what the harm is in letting people dream a little? After all, it is fairly
            difficult to be excited about a dollar.

            Besides, if the guy has decided he wants to make a million online,
            it only makes sense that he should ask people who have actually done it?
            True. Note, though, how the people who say they're millionaires have only shared general info about how they got there. "Amazon." "My products."

            What I'm going after in this thread is to get peoples' heads down from the clouds, and into reality where they are going to actually have to do some work to make money. Yes, dream big. Yes, have a big goal. Yes, realize it's going to take effort to get there.
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            • Profile picture of the author MikeTucker
              Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

              True. Note, though, how the people who say they're millionaires have only shared general info about how they got there. "Amazon." "My products."

              What I'm going after in this thread is to get peoples' heads down from the clouds, and into reality where they are going to actually have to do some work to make money. Yes, dream big. Yes, have a big goal. Yes, realize it's going to take effort to get there.
              Yeah, I think it is pretty unrealistic to expect very many people
              to share their methods openly in a forum full of spammers, LOL

              Anyway, I hadn't read the OP's other posts yet and didn't know
              that he needed to have his head "brought down from the clouds".
              When I read the post it seemed simple enough to me, and I wasn't
              expecting so many responses telling him that his question
              was wrong. Seemed like a lot of baggage brought over from
              other threads.

              And, the statements that no warriors have made millions, and
              warriors are poor and want something for free, are inaccurate.
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            • Profile picture of the author JasonB
              Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post


              What I'm going after in this thread is to get peoples' heads down from the clouds,
              Out of the clouds you say?

              Shoot, soon everyone will be on cloud 9 as soon as MARIJUANA is legalized throughout the US...

              Hey, that could be your first $1,000,000 right there!
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            • Profile picture of the author discrat
              Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

              True. Note, though, how the people who say they're millionaires have only shared general info about how they got there. "Amazon." "My products."

              What I'm going after in this thread is to get peoples' heads down from the clouds, and into reality where they are going to actually have to do some work to make money. Yes, dream big. Yes, have a big goal. Yes, realize it's going to take effort to get there.
              Remember, every single HUGE endeavor and every HUGE Success that Humans have accomplished started off with a DREAM.

              Every single billionaire, millionaire whatever....you ask them and they will inevitably tell you they dreamed about it first.

              Then putting things to ACTION shortly (or in some cases ' longly') followed.
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    • Profile picture of the author longblog
      Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

      Figure out how to make your first dollar online. It's so psychologically empowering. I had sold things worth hundreds of thousands of dollars in the "real world", but questioned whether someone who had never even met me would shell out $20 for an info product. I remember the first sale. Friday night. An Australian buyer. Wow. It wasn't the money: it was the realization that this could work--and could be repeated.
      This is so true! I remember when I got my first adsense click. I got all tingly inside like you do when having a spiritual moment at church, or watching something amazing unfold in an epic movie, or listening to a mind blowing song for the first time! I'm not even kidding, that was the best $0.06 I've ever made in my entire life! It was the realization that "this could work" that was so unbelievably empowering. In that one moment, I went from blogging about 20 minutes a day to blogging hours every day, and it paid off.

      Make your first amount - ANY amount - and the rest will follow.
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    • Profile picture of the author kaposzta
      Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

      Don't be asking that question here...save it for the Frank Kerns and Eban Pagans of the world. Warriors don't make millions.

      The big dumb idea (I'm not even going to glorify it by referring to it as the "myth") most people seem to have when they stumble into the forum is that they are going to find something that will make them a million dollars with a few clicks.

      Baloney.

      That's what it is.

      Baloney.

      Nobody here has made a million dollars.

      OK, you have ICUN and a couple other guys...Maybe...maybe someone who started out here has made a million. But they aren't hanging around here anymore. Warriors are poor. Warriors want something for nothing.

      OK, not all of them. But a lot of them. Enough of them.

      Fortunately, enough of them are NOT, and are here to share what they know. That's what makes it worth being here every so often. But if you spend your whole day here, you won't be making a dime; I promise you.

      There might be 5 or 6 people who started on the WF and made a sizable chunk of change off heavily-affiliated WSO releases. It was not their first WSO, nor their fifth, I bet. Tough learning curve for this stuff.

      The rest...the rest are happy if they make a couple thousand bucks.

      So: REALITY CHECK.

      Figure out how to make your FIRST dollar online. Don't worry about the millions. If you can't make one dollar, you can't make millions.

      I've been doing this for awhile now and what I know is: there's so much I don't know. First there are the pieces of the puzzle (autoresponder, squeeze pages, lead gen/PPC/adwords, web design, video production, so on and so on)...most of which you aren't even aware of for the first year of your journey. Second there's the "Wait, how does the puzzle fit together?" You think you have it right. Nope, things don't turn out the way you expected. You keep thinking you're one change away from hitting it big. Nope, doesn't work that way.

      Figure out how to make your first dollar online. It's so psychologically empowering. I had sold things worth hundreds of thousands of dollars in the "real world", but questioned whether someone who had never even met me would shell out $20 for an info product. I remember the first sale. Friday night. An Australian buyer. Wow. It wasn't the money: it was the realization that this could work--and could be repeated.

      It's nice to think about $1,000,000. It's motivating. I know. But don't waste your time. Concentrate on making your first $1, and then how to repeat and scale up. You'll make real dollars instead of chasing the fantasy version.

      I know some won't like what I say here and will find it negative. I share this to give the reality check.
      I fully agree with you, especially with the "puzzle" part. No-one can be a millionaire in his/her first year, because they must put the puzzle together first. I've been trying to make money on the Internet for 4-5 years, but only my last year was profitable. And I made only $1200 in the last 10 months. I'm very far from one million dollars But the good thing is that I start seeing the big picture. This year I want to make at least $2000 on Squidoo, and I'll try myself in other exciting areas (creating a WSO, outsourcing a fiction novel writing, maybe building a list, etc.). Earning money will be more and more easy, and maybe I'll be a millionaire in the long term (at least in my lame currency, haha ).
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      • Profile picture of the author robingg14
        I would imagine anyone who's made a million online would have a combination of heart, focus and affinity for hard work.
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      • Profile picture of the author theaccountant
        That's bull say be absolute about anything that is relative kevin
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        • Profile picture of the author kevin jackson
          Originally Posted by theaccountant View Post

          That's bull say be absolute about anything that is relative kevin
          I'm lost on what this means. All I am saying is you can't go to a group of people or community Online or offline and say there are no millionaires here or there never will be. You can't read minds, predict the future or read everyone's bank account. That's a little presumptive and you are making lots of broad generalizations and assumptions. Its not wise to pre-judge an entire group of people like that.
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        I actually did stumble on the perfect side business to make millions by answering a few emails.

        Among my clients are several Nigerian princes, a couple of Iraqi generals, a widow of a drug kingpin, and the rest, well, you wouldn't believe me if I told you.

        Once those payments start rolling in, I'm buying a small tropical country and retiring...

        [If anyone was dumb enough to take me seriously, in the words of the great sage Foghorn Leghorn, "I say, that's a joke, son...":p]
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        • Profile picture of the author aprilm
          Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

          I actually did stumble on the perfect side business to make millions by answering a few emails.

          Among my clients are several Nigerian princes, a couple of Iraqi generals, a widow of a drug kingpin, and the rest, well, you wouldn't believe me if I told you.

          Once those payments start rolling in, I'm buying a small tropical country and retiring...

          [If anyone was dumb enough to take me seriously, in the words of the great sage Foghorn Leghorn, "I say, that's a joke, son...":p]
          LOL! That's funny. I'm ashamed to say about 12 years ago, I actually responded to one of those emails by trying to fax in the info they requested. I was NOT scam savvy and really actually thought someone I didn't know might have left me millions of dollars in some foreign bank. Haha! Stupid me.
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    • Profile picture of the author MeelisM
      Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

      Don't be asking that question here...save it for the Frank Kerns and Eban Pagans of the world. Warriors don't make millions.

      The big dumb idea (I'm not even going to glorify it by referring to it as the "myth") most people seem to have when they stumble into the forum is that they are going to find something that will make them a million dollars with a few clicks.

      Baloney.

      That's what it is.

      Baloney.

      Nobody here has made a million dollars.

      OK, you have ICUN and a couple other guys...Maybe...maybe someone who started out here has made a million. But they aren't hanging around here anymore. Warriors are poor. Warriors want something for nothing.

      OK, not all of them. But a lot of them. Enough of them.

      Fortunately, enough of them are NOT, and are here to share what they know. That's what makes it worth being here every so often. But if you spend your whole day here, you won't be making a dime; I promise you.

      There might be 5 or 6 people who started on the WF and made a sizable chunk of change off heavily-affiliated WSO releases. It was not their first WSO, nor their fifth, I bet. Tough learning curve for this stuff.

      The rest...the rest are happy if they make a couple thousand bucks.

      So: REALITY CHECK.

      Figure out how to make your FIRST dollar online. Don't worry about the millions. If you can't make one dollar, you can't make millions.

      I've been doing this for awhile now and what I know is: there's so much I don't know. First there are the pieces of the puzzle (autoresponder, squeeze pages, lead gen/PPC/adwords, web design, video production, so on and so on)...most of which you aren't even aware of for the first year of your journey. Second there's the "Wait, how does the puzzle fit together?" You think you have it right. Nope, things don't turn out the way you expected. You keep thinking you're one change away from hitting it big. Nope, doesn't work that way.

      Figure out how to make your first dollar online. It's so psychologically empowering. I had sold things worth hundreds of thousands of dollars in the "real world", but questioned whether someone who had never even met me would shell out $20 for an info product. I remember the first sale. Friday night. An Australian buyer. Wow. It wasn't the money: it was the realization that this could work--and could be repeated.

      It's nice to think about $1,000,000. It's motivating. I know. But don't waste your time. Concentrate on making your first $1, and then how to repeat and scale up. You'll make real dollars instead of chasing the fantasy version.

      I know some won't like what I say here and will find it negative. I share this to give the reality check.
      A post from a person who will never be a millionaire
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    • Profile picture of the author taskemann
      Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

      Warriors don't make millions. Nobody here has made a million dollars.
      I know about a few ones who are members here. Jamie Lewis (makes 300k a month), Daniel Brock, E. Brian Rose, Kelly Felix aka The Rich Jerk (think he have made around $15 million online since he started) and Michael long just to mention a few ones. So there ARE "million dollar makers" on this forum mate, but they don't spend much of their time here because they're working. Maybe I should take the hint.

      And myself? I've made a solid 6-figure number since I started in 2010.
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    • Profile picture of the author GamerZag
      Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

      Don't be asking that question here...save it for the Frank Kerns and Eban Pagans of the world. Warriors don't make millions.

      Nobody here has made a million dollars.
      I'm one of those that has made over a million dollars online.

      How did I do it?

      2 ways:

      #1 By creating community content websites which provide excellent tools and methods for people to share their experiences in a particular communal market.

      #2 By creating software which provides tremendous value to it's users.


      I basically lounge around until I come up with an idea. I then research the idea, determine the consumer base size, and see if it would add true value. If it does, then I engineer it myself, assemble a team of people, and build it. Once built, I engage the greater Internet community in a personal and honest way and let them validate if my creation is worthwhile. If it is, it generally takes off on its own. BOOM, BANG! Now the money flows.
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    Your statement is very true Jason. Don't apologise for it.
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  • Profile picture of the author TimothyTorrents
    I seriously doubt the millionaire internet marketers are going to spend their time on a forum. They are probably too busy with seminars, interviews, and new projects.
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    • Originally Posted by timbonitus View Post

      I seriously doubt the millionaire internet marketers are going to spend their time on a forum. They are probably too busy with seminars, interviews, and new projects.
      You'd be surprised... There are indeed some millionaires here...
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeff Lenney
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        Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

        You'd be surprised... There are indeed some millionaires here...
        Yup I hung with many of Em in Vegas lol. Good times!!
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    • Profile picture of the author Ron Douglas
      Originally Posted by timbonitus View Post

      I seriously doubt the millionaire internet marketers are going to spend their time on a forum. They are probably too busy with seminars, interviews, and new projects.
      I still visit here every once in a while. I made my first million years ago - mainly from list building and self publishing on Clickbank and Amazon.
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      • Profile picture of the author Nightengale
        Jason is so right!

        This thread is a little ridiculous, as he pointed out. ("How did you make your first million online"? Oh please! This is the wrong place for that question.) With a few exceptions, millionaires don't hang out on the WF. And even if they did, why should they spend their very valuable time explaining to you how they made their millions?

        As Jason said, Warriors by and large are of modest means (or downright poor). And it's because of their mindsets. The "poor/woe is me" attitude, the "I-can't-afford-it" attitude, the regular guru bashing, the refusal to treat their business like a business, the instant riches expectations, etc. is epic here.

        The WSO forum is testament to what the Warrior mentality has done to the WSO market: driven down prices to bottom-of-the-barrel levels, which sets off a chain of "All WSOs are crap" threads, which feeds the skepticism and guru bashing, etc. It's a vicious, vicious cycle.

        Jason is also right about making your first dollar online. I've made a (very) few thousand dollars online (about $2K, maybe a little less), but it's been very spread out and never consistent. (So it certainly doesn't FEEL like $2K.) Last year, I stopped dabbling and started a "real" business. In Feb. 2012, I made my first two sales in that business: $127 x 2 = $254. I was THRILLED! (Yes, even though I've actually made more than that before.)

        Certainly it's not much as business income goes. But as Jason pointed out, it's not actually about the money in the beginning. It's about just being able to make ANY money in the first place, about knowing it really IS possible.

        Props to Jason for his post. He's spot on!

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        • Profile picture of the author latestnewsheadline
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          Originally Posted by Nightengale View Post

          Jason is also right about making your first dollar online. I've made a (very) few thousand dollars online (about $2K, maybe a little less), but it's been very spread out and never consistent. (So it certainly doesn't FEEL like $2K.) Last year, I stopped dabbling and started a "real" business. In Feb. 2012, I made my first two sales in that business: $127 x 2 = $254. I was THRILLED! (Yes, even though I've actually made more than that before.)
          .......
          Michelle
          I'm sure you can find many threads about making your first dollar online.
          I am sorry to tell you, this thread it's not about it.
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        • Profile picture of the author theaccountant
          Originally Posted by Nightengale View Post

          Jason is so right!

          This thread is a little ridiculous, as he pointed out. ("How did you make your first million online"? Oh please! This is the wrong place for that question.) With a few exceptions, millionaires don't hang out on the WF. And even if they did, why should they spend their very valuable time explaining to you how they made their millions?

          As Jason said, Warriors by and large are of modest means (or downright poor). And it's because of their mindsets. The "poor/woe is me" attitude, the "I-can't-afford-it" attitude, the regular guru bashing, the refusal to treat their business like a business, the instant riches expectations, etc. is epic here.

          The WSO forum is testament to what the Warrior mentality has done to the WSO market: driven down prices to bottom-of-the-barrel levels, which sets off a chain of "All WSOs are crap" threads, which feeds the skepticism and guru bashing, etc. It's a vicious, vicious cycle.

          Jason is also right about making your first dollar online. I've made a (very) few thousand dollars online (about $2K, maybe a little less), but it's been very spread out and never consistent. (So it certainly doesn't FEEL like $2K.) Last year, I stopped dabbling and started a "real" business. In Feb. 2012, I made my first two sales in that business: $127 x 2 = $254. I was THRILLED! (Yes, even though I've actually made more than that before.)

          Certainly it's not much as business income goes. But as Jason pointed out, it's not actually about the money in the beginning. It's about just being able to make ANY money in the first place, about knowing it really IS possible.

          Props to Jason for his post. He's spot on!

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        • Profile picture of the author ckbank
          Originally Posted by Nightengale View Post

          Jason is so right!

          This thread is a little ridiculous, as he pointed out. ("How did you make your first million online"? Oh please! This is the wrong place for that question.) With a few exceptions, millionaires don't hang out on the WF. And even if they did, why should they spend their very valuable time explaining to you how they made their millions?

          As Jason said, Warriors by and large are of modest means (or downright poor). And it's because of their mindsets. The "poor/woe is me" attitude, the "I-can't-afford-it" attitude, the regular guru bashing, the refusal to treat their business like a business, the instant riches expectations, etc. is epic here.

          The WSO forum is testament to what the Warrior mentality has done to the WSO market: driven down prices to bottom-of-the-barrel levels, which sets off a chain of "All WSOs are crap" threads, which feeds the skepticism and guru bashing, etc. It's a vicious, vicious cycle.

          Jason is also right about making your first dollar online. I've made a (very) few thousand dollars online (about $2K, maybe a little less), but it's been very spread out and never consistent. (So it certainly doesn't FEEL like $2K.) Last year, I stopped dabbling and started a "real" business. In Feb. 2012, I made my first two sales in that business: $127 x 2 = $254. I was THRILLED! (Yes, even though I've actually made more than that before.)

          Certainly it's not much as business income goes. But as Jason pointed out, it's not actually about the money in the beginning. It's about just being able to make ANY money in the first place, about knowing it really IS possible.

          Props to Jason for his post. He's spot on!

          Michelle
          You took your valuable time to explain something. Does logic follow that if a millionaire doesn't do the same, his or her time is more valuable than yours or mine?
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          • Profile picture of the author Nightengale
            Well, this thread took off!

            I'm sorry someone thought my post was me just being negative. I wasn't. Though there are some good earners here, the lion's share of Warriors are on the low end of the economic scale. It's my personal opinion, but I think this is the wrong forum to ask millionaires to step forward to explain their methods. There are much better ways to find millionaires and get a REAL education. The WF is NOT the place I'd look.

            But that's just me.

            Originally Posted by ckbank View Post

            You took your valuable time to explain something. Does logic follow that if a millionaire doesn't do the same, his or her time is more valuable than yours or mine?
            My point wasn't that they might not take their valuable time to explain some of their experiences and wisdom. It was that this is the wrong place to look for these types of people. (See above.)

            The Sales Booster, Mike Tucker and others are absolutely on point with their comments.

            I'm being accused of being negative and raining on people's parades (dreams). Not at all. As Albert Einstein said, "Imagination is the preview of life's coming attractions." So true! You have to see it in your mind before you see the physical reality -- and I spend a LOT of time dreaming and envisioning what I want my own business to look like and what I want to accomplish.

            Dreaming is an important first step.

            The Sales Booster's comments here are absolutely on point:

            Originally Posted by TheSalesBooster View Post

            Some people in this thread are right about one thing... 99% of the people on this forum are running in circles. It's the blind leading the blind here. This forum and digitalpoint are a running joke to most top internet marketers. It's like the kindergarten of the internet marketing world, but everyone has to start somewhere.

            Only problem is that most people who start out here will most likely never succeed, not because they don't have the determination or skills... It's because this whole place is like a stagnant pond. There's a lot of talk and discussions, but it doesn't go anywhere. It's just recycled knowledge that gets passed down from the guys at the top and get's sold as a WSO and circulates here for years.

            The whole mentality here is sickening to be honest. So much laziness and self doubt...

            If you really are serious about making money on the internet, you need to start looking beyond just warriorforums for information and you need to get out there and get your hands dirty. You will never make money if you sit around and make threads like this every week.
            And THAT was my point!

            The Warrior Forum is perpetually full of newbies and the same questions get asked over and over again. Nothing wrong with that except that we have a lot of long-time Warriors still here, yet the forum rarely changes. There's A TON of cynicism, negativity, inertia, etc. It gets really old.

            Some people move faster than others. I myself have been here a long time and am one of those slow movers. But I'm most definitely a LONG ways away from where I started!

            I've spent a lot of time dabbling, made a few thousand dollars, but spent most of the last 8-10 years studying and trying to figure out what I wanted to do. Along the way, I made a few thousand dollars as a freelance copywriter, but still hadn't started a formal business of any sort.

            Last year, I completed my second year with my mentor and started a "real" (long-term) business. I've also been hired by my coach to coach her new clients as she's no longer coaching the general public any more.

            Like the Sales Booster said, GET OFF THE WF to get the info you need and move forward! I did and it paid off in SPADES. Too many Warriors think they can get virtually everything they need right here. They expect to learn all they need to know from $7 WSOs and then they start planning to make a killing marketing their own $7 WSO.

            It's easy to see why they do it. It's comfortable, it's familiar. They know the community and they're taking very little risk (financial or otherwise). But it's not a real business.

            And then later on, the "I can honestly say all WSOs are crap" threads start and the wailing, gnashing of teeth and guru bashing begins anew.

            It's so predictable, it's laughable.

            Yes, there are a few millionaires and other high earners here. Yet, I stand by my opinion that the original question was a silly one to ask here because of the overall WF demographics.

            If you've never read "To Be or Not to Be Intimidated" (formerly entitled "Winning Through Intimidation") by Robert Ringer, I HIGHLY recommend it. (Don't be put off by the title. It's not what it sounds like.) Excellent book! And one of it's foundational premises is that we must deal with things not as we wish them to be, but as they really ARE. In other words, we need to deal with reality, however unpleasant.

            And the reality of the WF is that it's very much the same old, same old.

            While the Warrior Forum can be great for some things, it's easy to get caught in the cycle here, never leave and never move forward in creating a real, sustainable business. The repetitiveness, cynicism and negativity, just general "stuckness" of most Warriors can be really dangerous to your own progress.

            Some of the best things I ever did were 1) buy a comprehensive A-Z IM course aimed at "real" business owners (not IMers selling to other IMers) and 2) hiring a coach and joining a mastermind of other "real" business owners.

            I'm now part of a very small group of ladies who have been trained by our mentor and have now been hired to coach her new clients. Being able to bounce ideas off of them, ask questions, get resources, etc. from them (along with ongoing input from our mentor) has been enormously valuable to me.

            And these ladies are real people with existing businesses, not just wannabes posting in a forum. Forums are a great starting point, but they can't be your ONLY source. Move off the forum and keep going! Don't get upset if you're not moving forward but unwilling to reach higher, move off this forum and go find the resources and people you need to help you in your business! In short, treat your business like a business!

            Like I said, the Sales Booster is spot on in his comments.

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            • Profile picture of the author MikeTucker
              Originally Posted by Nightengale View Post

              Well, this thread took off!

              I'm sorry someone thought my post was me just being negative. I wasn't. Though there are some good earners here, the lion's share of Warriors are on the low end of the economic scale. It's my personal opinion, but I think this is the wrong forum to ask millionaires to step forward to explain their methods. There are much better ways to find millionaires and get a REAL education. The WF is NOT the place I'd look.

              But that's just me.



              My point wasn't that they might not take their valuable time to explain some of their experiences and wisdom. It was that this is the wrong place to look for these types of people. (See above.)

              The Sales Booster, Mike Tucker and others are absolutely on point with their comments.

              I'm being accused of being negative and raining on people's parades (dreams). Not at all. As Albert Einstein said, "Imagination is the preview of life's coming attractions." So true! You have to see it in your mind before you see the physical reality -- and I spend a LOT of time dreaming and envisioning what I want my own business to look like and what I want to accomplish.

              Dreaming is an important first step.

              The Sales Booster's comments here are absolutely on point:



              And THAT was my point!

              The Warrior Forum is perpetually full of newbies and the same questions get asked over and over again. Nothing wrong with that except that we have a lot of long-time Warriors still here, yet the forum rarely changes. There's A TON of cynicism, negativity, inertia, etc. It gets really old.

              Some people move faster than others. I myself have been here a long time and am one of those slow movers. But I'm most definitely a LONG ways away from where I started!

              I've spent a lot of time dabbling, made a few thousand dollars, but spent most of the last 8-10 years studying and trying to figure out what I wanted to do. Along the way, I made a few thousand dollars as a freelance copywriter, but still hadn't started a formal business of any sort.

              Last year, I completed my second year with my mentor and started a "real" (long-term) business. I've also been hired by my coach to coach her new clients as she's no longer coaching the general public any more.

              Like the Sales Booster said, GET OFF THE WF to get the info you need and move forward! I did and it paid off in SPADES. Too many Warriors think they can get virtually everything they need right here. They expect to learn all they need to know from $7 WSOs and then they start planning to make a killing marketing their own $7 WSO.

              It's easy to see why they do it. It's comfortable, it's familiar. They know the community and they're taking very little risk (financial or otherwise). But it's not a real business.

              And then later on, the "I can honestly say all WSOs are crap" threads start and the wailing, gnashing of teeth and guru bashing begins anew.

              It's so predictable, it's laughable.

              Yes, there are a few millionaires and other high earners here. Yet, I stand by my opinion that the original question was a silly one to ask here because of the overall WF demographics.

              If you've never read "To Be or Not to Be Intimidated" (formerly entitled "Winning Through Intimidation") by Robert Ringer, I HIGHLY recommend it. (Don't be put off by the title. It's not what it sounds like.) Excellent book! And one of it's foundational premises is that we must deal with things not as we wish them to be, but as they really ARE. In other words, we need to deal with reality, however unpleasant.

              And the reality of the WF is that it's very much the same old, same old.

              While the Warrior Forum can be great for some things, it's easy to get caught in the cycle here, never leave and never move forward in creating a real, sustainable business. The repetitiveness, cynicism and negativity, just general "stuckness" of most Warriors can be really dangerous to your own progress.

              Some of the best things I ever did were 1) buy a comprehensive A-Z IM course aimed at "real" business owners (not IMers selling to other IMers) and 2) hiring a coach and joining a mastermind of other "real" business owners.

              I'm now part of a very small group of ladies who have been trained by our mentor and have now been hired to coach her new clients. Being able to bounce ideas off of them, ask questions, get resources, etc. from them (along with ongoing input from our mentor) has been enormously valuable to me.

              And these ladies are real people with existing businesses, not just wannabes posting in a forum. Forums are a great starting point, but they can't be your ONLY source. Move off the forum and keep going! Don't get upset if you're not moving forward but unwilling to reach higher, move off this forum and go find the resources and people you need to help you in your business! In short, treat your business like a business!

              Like I said, the Sales Booster is spot on in his comments.

              Michelle
              Excellent and inspirational post, (I'm out of 'Thanks' at the moment)
              and your own comments here are also spot on.

              Oh yes, and congratulations on your personal success so far!
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              • Profile picture of the author latestnewsheadline
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                Originally Posted by MikeTucker View Post

                Excellent and inspirational post, (I'm out of 'Thanks' at the moment)
                and your own comments here are also spot on.

                Oh yes, and congratulations on your personal success so far!
                I totally agree with you.
                You're out of 'Thanks', so I gave Michelle a big Thanks from our side.

                To be on topic, here is an article about The Top 10 Entrepreneur Teenagers Who Made Millions.
                I don't have any connection with this site or author.
                The Top 10 Teenage Entrepreneur Millionaires | Addicted 2 Success
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                • To make a million that works out to be $83333.33 a month.

                  Lets start smaller with $50k as that's only $4166.66 per month, much more manageable to start with and I know A LOT of warriors would be happy to be earning an extra $50k a year.

                  Build a membership site and use facebook, warrior forum and attraction marketing to build your membership.

                  (Attraction Marketing is giving away free information to build trust).

                  UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES WHATSOEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF GIVING STUFF AWAY FOR FREE!

                  People do think as follows:

                  "If this is FREE (and is AWESOME) how much more valuable is the stuff they are charging for?"

                  You can build a $50k income with just 42 people you $97 a month in a membership.

                  THINK ABOUT IT, THERE ARE THOUSANDS, IF NOT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF INTERNET MARKETERS OUT THERE AND YOU ONLY NEED FORTY TWO OF THEM TO GIVE YOU $97 A MONTH EACH.

                  Obviously you need to provide REAL value to get people to part with that sort of money but I see memberships online at $197 and even $297 a month each.
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      • Profile picture of the author latestnewsheadline
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        Originally Posted by Ron Douglas View Post

        I still visit here every once in a while. I made my first million years ago - mainly from list building and self publishing on Clickbank and Amazon.
        Thanks for answer Ron.
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  • Profile picture of the author J50
    Lol, it doesn't work like that. You don't make a million and pocket a million. Most people who make large sums of money form companies, and they add themselves to the payroll. So they'll earn a modest salary for tax effectiveness.

    Leaving a lot of cash in the company. That cash can then be used to expand the business. You could well be a millionaire, on paper i.e. the company is valued at $1m+ yet still only have take home pay of $50,000 a year.

    Making money is expensive, and a lot of companies typically work off margins between 10-30%.
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  • I have and it was a combination of products, affiliate products, ebay and seminars (when it was easy to get people there). Anyone can do it online but less then 1 in 1000 do (at least my observation). Allot of the stuff that made tons of money even 4 or 5 years ago is dead now (at least for me) and I'm looking into Amazon Kindle for the first time I just finished my first book and been going over the rules so I don't get banned (I suck at rules and have been banned tons of times). I think it's much easier today then 5 years ago, but it's also harder because of all the info and distractions like social media (I shut down my facebook for that reason). The money in my opinion is in the mindset and that is hard to adjust if you are starting from a wrong mindset like I was, but with the right mindset it's actually easy to make sales. In any case I come here for ideas, never been able to make money on this forum but solved tons of problems by looking at how other wariors solve them. Find something you are good at and stick to it (but make sure there is a market first).
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  • Profile picture of the author TimK06
    Originally Posted by latestnewsheadline View Post

    Because "How did you make..." it is a trendy question, I want to ask you:
    How did you make your first $1,000,000 online?

    I'm sure, some of you can tell us the story.
    Who dares to start?
    Lol I'll let you know when I get there.
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  • Profile picture of the author CBusiness
    egh....... i wont speak from a 1st person....

    but I know there's millions to be made from the marketing of popular goods, that are drop-shipped from China...............................

    i dont think it would be wise for anyone to admit to making a million themselves...........
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  • Profile picture of the author proguy7
    I would say the right mentality to have is this: think about your goals, what you want to achieve, what you want in your life. But make sure you don't think of the monetary goals...they ought to be secondary only.

    Money is the how, not the why.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joe Russell
    I have made multiple 7 figures online and much of this can be credited to the WF through the valuable information and contacts made. Like Ron I still visit from time to time...even if I dont always log in.

    There are actually a few Warriors who have went on to make millions!

    Joe Russell
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    • Profile picture of the author latestnewsheadline
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      Originally Posted by Joe Russell View Post

      I have made multiple 7 figures online and much of this can be credited to the WF through the valuable information and contacts made. Like Ron I still visit from time to time...even if I dont always log in.

      There are actually a few Warriors who have went on to make millions!

      Joe Russell
      Thanks for reply Joe.
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  • Profile picture of the author Arian Surya
    I believe everything is possible.. But the truth is, You can't get a million without a dollar! So why don't You try to focus on How to get your dollar first? In business, you can get really success by multiply Your FIRST success.
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  • Profile picture of the author MartinPlatt
    By telling people how to make a $1,000,000 with a single click.

    No, not really, not my style!

    There are people out there who have done this, and I expect the answer to be simple. Hard work.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeTucker
    The OP didn't actually say anything about a "few clicks"
    or a "single click"... a lot of people seem to be reading more
    into his post than he actually wrote?
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  • Profile picture of the author rmolina88
    Give me a few years and I'll tell you how..
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  • Profile picture of the author tomerep
    i dont think anyone here in the forum made a million dollars through the internet. i bet being an entrepreneur makes you that kind of big money.
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  • Profile picture of the author ezekielseo
    The millionaire marketers stay behind the covers so they wont keep getting inboxed by newbies who keep on asking how they can make their first dollar.

    Heres a tip: Work on something scalable, & profitable.

    That's my response all on the time whenever anyone asks me how they can make money online.
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  • Profile picture of the author Beverley Boorer
    hmmm, when I read the question I thought, Oh there won't be many answers to that because no one has made that much. lol. I was wrong about the number of answers; seems everyone wants to have a say, even if they don't qualify.
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  • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
    I've had several clients who've had seven figure incomes.

    Generally speaking they do the basics well on a bigger scale.

    I think it is a bit crazy to be worrying about making millions when
    you're haven't got to the point where you make a full time living
    online.

    Basics like finding a hungry market you can get easy and economical
    access to, working out what they really want and need, delivering
    real value, creating a sales process that's effective, following up
    and delivering more value, charging premium prices...

    These are all things you need to learn at every level.

    Taking yourself from a few thousand dollars a month to tens of
    thousands of dollars a month usually involves expanding on what
    you're already doing and either joint venturing or outsourcing so
    you can increase the scale.

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    • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
      Originally Posted by Joe Russell View Post

      I have made multiple 7 figures online and much of this can be credited to the WF through the valuable information and contacts made. Like Ron I still visit from time to time...even if I dont always log in.

      There are actually a few Warriors who have went on to make millions!

      Joe Russell
      Originally Posted by MikeTucker View Post

      Yeah!!

      Allen Says, Jack Duncan, David Frye, Harvey Segal, Marlon Sanders,
      Sean Mize, and at least a dozen other warriors around here, they
      are all a bunch of struggling, broke wannabes who haven't made
      even 1 million dollars in the last decade! :rolleyes:





      Some of them have admitted to using the WF for both market research
      and list-building-- And they lurk often, even if they avoid most of the
      daily drama.
      Originally Posted by AndrewCavanagh View Post

      I've had several clients who've had seven figure incomes.

      Generally speaking they do the basics well on a bigger scale.

      I think it is a bit crazy to be worrying about making millions when
      you're haven't got to the point where you make a full time living
      online.

      Basics like finding a hungry market you can get easy and economical
      access to, working out what they really want and need, delivering
      real value, creating a sales process that's effective, following up
      and delivering more value, charging premium prices...

      These are all things you need to learn at every level.

      Taking yourself from a few thousand dollars a month to tens of
      thousands of dollars a month usually involves expanding on what
      you're already doing and either joint venturing or outsourcing so
      you can increase the scale.

      Kindest regards,
      Andrew Cavanagh
      Interesting thread. I think there is information on the WF to put the puzzle together.
      There is also inspiration from "hanging out" with like minds. And, there is something to be learned about mastering all needed techniques; for example, the difference between posting a few ads on Craigslist and giving up, and REALLY posting ads on Craigslist as thouroughly and consistently as redshifted and iamnameless discussed in a different thread to get significant offline business.

      Anyway, my question for those who have made it, or know those who have, is the focus on making the dollars, or just providing something valuable and it so happened you made a lot of money?
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    • Profile picture of the author theory expert
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      The Answer......

      Originally Posted by HelpingYouBeAnExpert View Post

      The money in my opinion is in the mindset and that is hard to adjust if you are starting from a wrong mindset...
      Originally Posted by AndrewCavanagh View Post


      Generally speaking they do the basics well on a bigger scale.


      Basics like finding a hungry market you can get easy and economical
      access to, working out what they really want and need, delivering
      real value, creating a sales process that's effective, following up
      and delivering more value, charging premium prices...

      These are all things you need
      to learn at every level.

      Taking yourself from a few thousand dollars a month to tens of
      thousands of dollars a month usually involves expanding on what
      you're already doing and either joint venturing or outsourcing so
      you can increase the scale.

      Kindest regards,
      Andrew Cavanagh
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  • Profile picture of the author footbag_man
    This thread................. is a strange one.

    Anyone making 1mil online is charging 20k+ for coaching .. they will not divulge their info for free on here..

    I haven't made 1 million but I will within 3 years.

    here are my 2cents.

    • Solo ads
    • adswaps
    • product launches instead of affiliate promotions
    • have a high converting squeeze page
    • have a high converting OTO once people opt in meaning you can buy solo ads effectively for free and build your list for free
    • repeat
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  • Profile picture of the author fallingdown101
    some years ago i made my first money online with selling massage tables at ebay.
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  • Profile picture of the author Martin Avis
    Making a million in ten years isn't so hard. I have done it several times over.

    How?

    Well, to be honest, explaining my methods isn't going to give any guarantee that someone else will have the same results. But I will say that there are a few basic principles that all the people I know who make serious money have in common:

    1. Forget hard work - that's for employees. Work smart and make your efforts count. By that I mean become self aware enough to know what you waste time on and try to minimise it as far as possible. The 80/20 rule rules!

    2. Focus. Nobody gets rich by doing a lot of things badly. Focus on doing one thing really well and keeping at it until you see results before moving on to the next thing. Try to complete one job in a week and you'll have a pretty good chance of succeeding. Try to do two or three things simultaneously and the odds are none will ever see the light of day.

    3. Residual income. It is hard (but not impossible) to make a million by selling individual things one at a time, but it is a whole lot easier to build ongoing income streams. Hint: membership sites rock!

    4. Know when to quit. Not every online marketing method suits everyone. Learn when something doesn't sit well with you and move on to something that suits you better.

    5. Don't waste time on stuff you are not good at. I'm hopeless at creating good graphic and have, in the past, spent days slaving over something that turned out looking awful. It is far better to know your limitations and pay an expert - you'll save money in the long run.

    6. Never stop learning. I don't mean you should chase every shiny new thing, but an ongoing education is vital in business - and even more so in an online business. Just because you 'know' how to build an affiliate site doesn't mean someone else doesn't know a better way.

    7. Networking. My online income only really took off after I started networking at seminars and other events. Now I run my own networking event (see my sig) where there are always several online millionaires in attendance!

    Martin
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    • Profile picture of the author latestnewsheadline
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      Originally Posted by Martin.Avis View Post

      Making a million in ten years isn't so hard. I have done it several times over.

      How?

      Well, to be honest, explaining my methods isn't going to give any guarantee that someone else will have the same results. But I will say that there are a few basic principles that all the people I know who make serious money have in common:

      1. Forget hard work - that's for employees. Work smart and make your efforts count. By that I mean become self aware enough to know what you waste time on and try to minimise it as far as possible. The 80/20 rule rules!

      2. Focus. Nobody gets rich by doing a lot of things badly. Focus on doing one thing really well and keeping at it until you see results before moving on to the next thing. Try to complete one job in a week and you'll have a pretty good chance of succeeding. Try to do two or three things simultaneously and the odds are none will ever see the light of day.

      3. Residual income. It is hard (but not impossible) to make a million by selling individual things one at a time, but it is a whole lot easier to build ongoing income streams. Hint: membership sites rock!

      4. Know when to quit. Not every online marketing method suits everyone. Learn when something doesn't sit well with you and move on to something that suits you better.

      5. Don't waste time on stuff you are not good at. I'm hopeless at creating good graphic and have, in the past, spent days slaving over something that turned out looking awful. It is far better to know your limitations and pay an expert - you'll save money in the long run.

      6. Never stop learning. I don't mean you should chase every shiny new thing, but an ongoing education is vital in business - and even more so in an online business. Just because you 'know' how to build an affiliate site doesn't mean someone else doesn't know a better way.

      7. Networking. My online income only really took off after I started networking at seminars and other events. Now I run my own networking event (see my sig) where there are always several online millionaires in attendance!

      Martin
      Very useful advices.
      The #1 is my favorite.
      Thanks for sharing.
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    • Profile picture of the author theaccountant
      Originally Posted by Martin.Avis View Post

      Making a million in ten years isn't so hard. I have done it several times over.

      How?

      Well, to be honest, explaining my methods isn't going to give any guarantee that someone else will have the same results. But I will say that there are a few basic principles that all the people I know who make serious money have in common:

      1. Forget hard work - that's for employees. Work smart and make your efforts count. By that I mean become self aware enough to know what you waste time on and try to minimise it as far as possible. The 80/20 rule rules!

      2. Focus. Nobody gets rich by doing a lot of things badly. Focus on doing one thing really well and keeping at it until you see results before moving on to the next thing. Try to complete one job in a week and you'll have a pretty good chance of succeeding. Try to do two or three things simultaneously and the odds are none will ever see the light of day.

      3. Residual income. It is hard (but not impossible) to make a million by selling individual things one at a time, but it is a whole lot easier to build ongoing income streams. Hint: membership sites rock!

      4. Know when to quit. Not every online marketing method suits everyone. Learn when something doesn't sit well with you and move on to something that suits you better.

      5. Don't waste time on stuff you are not good at. I'm hopeless at creating good graphic and have, in the past, spent days slaving over something that turned out looking awful. It is far better to know your limitations and pay an expert - you'll save money in the long run.

      6. Never stop learning. I don't mean you should chase every shiny new thing, but an ongoing education is vital in business - and even more so in an online business. Just because you 'know' how to build an affiliate site doesn't mean someone else doesn't know a better way.

      7. Networking. My online income only really took off after I started networking at seminars and other events. Now I run my own networking event (see my sig) where there are always several online millionaires in attendance!

      Martin
      Would be nice to link up with your network I am based in gerrads cross
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    • Profile picture of the author gothilda
      Originally Posted by Martin.Avis View Post

      Making a million in ten years isn't so hard. I have done it several times over.

      How?

      Well, to be honest, explaining my methods isn't going to give any guarantee that someone else will have the same results. But I will say that there are a few basic principles that all the people I know who make serious money have in common:

      1. Forget hard work - that's for employees. Work smart and make your efforts count. By that I mean become self aware enough to know what you waste time on and try to minimise it as far as possible. The 80/20 rule rules!

      2. Focus. Nobody gets rich by doing a lot of things badly. Focus on doing one thing really well and keeping at it until you see results before moving on to the next thing. Try to complete one job in a week and you'll have a pretty good chance of succeeding. Try to do two or three things simultaneously and the odds are none will ever see the light of day.

      3. Residual income. It is hard (but not impossible) to make a million by selling individual things one at a time, but it is a whole lot easier to build ongoing income streams. Hint: membership sites rock!

      4. Know when to quit. Not every online marketing method suits everyone. Learn when something doesn't sit well with you and move on to something that suits you better.

      5. Don't waste time on stuff you are not good at. I'm hopeless at creating good graphic and have, in the past, spent days slaving over something that turned out looking awful. It is far better to know your limitations and pay an expert - you'll save money in the long run.

      6. Never stop learning. I don't mean you should chase every shiny new thing, but an ongoing education is vital in business - and even more so in an online business. Just because you 'know' how to build an affiliate site doesn't mean someone else doesn't know a better way.

      7. Networking. My online income only really took off after I started networking at seminars and other events. Now I run my own networking event (see my sig) where there are always several online millionaires in attendance!

      Martin
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      Thanks Greetings Gothilda
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    • Profile picture of the author Andre Slater
      I have not made a bunch of money online as of yet, but I have talked to multiple Millionaire's on WF and I have learned alot from them and their courses.

      I think a lot of newbies are so high-strung on making money online they don't even start.

      Most newbies when they do get to have a conversation with a genuine Millionaire Guru and they were to ask them how they got their Million, the answer would be so basic it would go over the newbies head...

      The newbie would be looking for more of a Technical answer and the millionaire would be giving you a Mental Answer.

      When in reality the technical stuff is easy and the mental part is the hardest.

      It's all mental. This is the lesson that I have learned over the years.
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  • Profile picture of the author aceshigh888
    The problem with that question is what worked years ago likely might not work on todays internet. The net has evolved so rapidly that it's no longer the web 1.0 era where a lot of online millionaires were made.
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  • Profile picture of the author kaposzta
    To be more ontopic:
    If I ever become a millionaire, it's going happen owing to one of the following money-making methods:
    1. I'll be an expert of a given field, I'll build a huge list, etc.
    OR
    2. I'll find exceptional and very talented content creators, SEO experts, designers, etc., and sell their services to big companies for big bucks.
    OR
    3. I'll have fiction and non-fiction novels written, and sell them on Amazon.
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  • Profile picture of the author Deepak Media
    I have not made one million dollars online yet. But in the past few years I have learned that I cannot become a millionaire with the following methods:

    - Building content sites and earning through display ads. Depend on SEO.
    - Trading time for money (freelancing solo)
    - Selling WSOs.
    - Promoting affiliate products by relying on traffic from Google.

    AFAIK, to make $1MM the following roads may take me there:

    - Providing a unique service and scaling it up by leveraging people's help (Read Employees)
    - Create a product (software or info based) and sell it to people. Create more products for upsell. Leverage other's content properties for traffic and scale up.

    Traffic should be paid for. (Free traffic is not predictable and hence cannot be scaled.!)
    Conversions should be high.

    Predictability is the key for scalability.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheSalesBooster
    I've made my first million being an affiliate marketer, Now I focus mainly on my own products.

    Some people in this thread are right about one thing... 99% of the people on this forum are running in circles. It's the blind leading the blind here. This forum and digitalpoint are a running joke to most top internet marketers. It's like the kindergarten of the internet marketing world, but everyone has to start somewhere.

    Only problem is that most people who start out here will most likely never succeed, not because they don't have the determination or skills... It's because this whole place is like a stagnant pond. There's a lot of talk and discussions, but it doesn't go anywhere. It's just recycled knowledge that gets passed down from the guys at the top and get's sold as a WSO and circulates here for years.

    The whole mentality here is sickening to be honest. So much laziness and self doubt...

    If you really are serious about making money on the internet, you need to start looking beyond just warriorforums for information and you need to get out there and get your hands dirty. You will never make money if you sit around and make threads like this every week.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
      Originally Posted by TheSalesBooster View Post

      I've made my first million being an affiliate marketer, Now I focus mainly on my own products.

      Some people in this thread are right about one thing... 99% of the people on this forum are running in circles. It's the blind leading the blind here. This forum and digitalpoint are a running joke to most top internet marketers. It's like the kindergarten of the internet marketing world, but everyone has to start somewhere.

      Only problem is that most people who start out here will most likely never succeed, not because they don't have the determination or skills... It's because this whole place is like a stagnant pond. There's a lot of talk and discussions, but it doesn't go anywhere. It's just recycled knowledge that gets passed down from the guys at the top and get's sold as a WSO and circulates here for years.

      The whole mentality here is sickening to be honest. So much laziness and self doubt...

      If you really are serious about making money on the internet, you need to start looking beyond just warriorforums for information and you need to get out there and get your hands dirty. You will never make money if you sit around and make threads like this every week.
      So, my millionaire amigo, where do you suggest we hang out? What other online locations do YOU frequent to hobnob with the greats? I really would like to know.

      Someone above said they made a million dollars over 10 years. That's great. Except on this forum, I can tell you that 99% of the people won't stick with it long enough to make $50K. They came in here to make a quick buck, and when they learn that it takes work, they're gone.

      So what would you suggest?
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      • Profile picture of the author TheSalesBooster
        Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

        So, my millionaire amigo, where do you suggest we hang out? What other online locations do YOU frequent to hobnob with the greats? I really would like to know.

        Someone above said they made a million dollars over 10 years. That's great. Except on this forum, I can tell you that 99% of the people won't stick with it long enough to make $50K. They came in here to make a quick buck, and when they learn that it takes work, they're gone.

        So what would you suggest?
        Any of the places I suggest would eat you up and spit you out. They don't have time for "newbies". I don't blame them. I hate seeing the same questions being asked every single day on this forum. People need to learn how to get off their ass and do some simple research. If people can't do that, they don't deserve to succeed.

        So as far as my personal suggestion to you, it wouldn't matter. You aren't ready for that next level yet.
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        • Profile picture of the author jjsam
          Ever tried creative visualization ? Might actually work
          (sorry, but the psychology student in me just couldn't resist
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        • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
          Originally Posted by TheSalesBooster View Post

          Any of the places I suggest would eat you up and spit you out. They don't have time for "newbies". I don't blame them. I hate seeing the same questions being asked every single day on this forum. People need to learn how to get off their ass and do some simple research. If people can't do that, they don't deserve to succeed.

          So as far as my personal suggestion to you, it wouldn't matter. You aren't ready for that next level yet.
          Such hostility!

          You know nothing about me, why I'm in this thread or what I do.

          How about offering something constructive?
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          • Profile picture of the author TheSalesBooster
            Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

            Such hostility!

            You know nothing about me, why I'm in this thread or what I do.
            What I said wasn't intended to be hostile. I'm simply pointing out the obvious. You need to change your mindset before you can succeed.
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            • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
              Originally Posted by TheSalesBooster View Post

              What I said wasn't intended to be hostile. I'm simply pointing out the obvious. You need to change your mindset before you can succeed.
              Maybe. So teach us something! What can we change about our mindset?

              Dreaming about a mil ain't gonna make it happen.

              Finding a market, delivering a solution, scaling it up are things that will.

              People who want to make a million before they can make a thousand are who I'm talking to in my earlier posts.

              Originally Posted by MeelisM View Post

              A post from a person who will never be a millionaire
              Amusing. I've made well over a million in my lifetime; haven't had it all at once though. Maybe you should look at my reviews and see the value I give--I'm on my way there.
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              • Profile picture of the author TheSalesBooster
                Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

                Maybe. So teach us something! What can we change about our mindset?

                Dreaming about a mil ain't gonna make it happen.

                Finding a market, delivering a solution, scaling it up are things that will.

                People who want to make a million before they can make a thousand are who I'm talking to in my earlier posts.
                The secret to success is...

                [Pay $99 to unlock this post and reveal the secret to success]

                ...and that's how you will make your first million in less than 6 months.

                Point is, I never give away my secrets for free. Especially to people who won't put it to any use.
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                • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
                  Originally Posted by TheSalesBooster View Post

                  The secret to success is...

                  [Pay $99 to unlock this post and reveal the secret to success]

                  ...and that's how you will make your first million in less than 6 months.

                  Point is, I never give away my secrets for free. Especially to people who won't put it to any use.
                  Again...why would you say that when you don't know the first thing about me? Why do you "know" I wouldn't put it to use?

                  You seem to be all ego...you know everything and everyone else is scum.
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                  • Profile picture of the author TheSalesBooster
                    Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

                    Again...why would you say that when you don't know the first thing about me? Why do you "know" I wouldn't put it to use?

                    You seem to be all ego...you know everything and everyone else is scum.
                    Because you showed your hand with your first post in this thread. Your one of those "This doesn't work for me so it must be bullcrap" kinda guys. Posts like that scream out "I'm not successful so I'm going to step on everyone else's dreams".

                    How can I help someone if they can't even help themselves?
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                    • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
                      Originally Posted by TheSalesBooster View Post

                      Because you showed your hand with your first post in this thread. Your one of those "This doesn't work for me so it must be bullcrap" kinda guys. Posts like that scream out "I'm not successful so I'm going to step on everyone else's dreams".

                      How can I help someone if they can't even help themselves?
                      Hmm. Interesting interpretation.

                      What did I say didn't work? What I said was, newbies who come in here expecting to do no work and make a million bucks in three weeks are living in a dream. That it takes work to do so. Quite a few people seem to agree with that.

                      Again, you don't know the first darn thing about me and are making all kinds of assumptions.
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                      • Profile picture of the author TheSalesBooster
                        Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

                        Hmm. Interesting interpretation.

                        What did I say didn't work? What I said was, newbies who come in here expecting to do no work and make a million bucks in three weeks are living in a dream. That it takes work to do so. Quite a few people seem to agree with that.

                        Again, you don't know the first darn thing about me and are making all kinds of assumptions.
                        I honestly don't care. I posted my 2 cents and you questioned me on it. Take what I said how you want, but I'm not the only one here who notices the self doubt negativity.
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                        • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
                          Originally Posted by TheSalesBooster View Post

                          I honestly don't care. I posted my 2 cents and you questioned me on it. Take what I said how you want, but I'm not the only one here who notices the self doubt negativity.
                          Because I don't believe in fairy tales of push-button millions? LOL

                          I don't think you've contributed anything of value here. Not even one little tidbit.

                          I offer valuable info like this:

                          http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-...ake-money.html
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                          • Profile picture of the author TheSalesBooster
                            Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

                            Because I don't believe in fairy tales of push-button millions? LOL

                            I don't think you've contributed anything of value here. Not even one little tidbit.

                            I offer valuable info like this:

                            http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-...ake-money.html
                            When did I ever say anything about push-button millions?

                            And great for you that you created a helpful thread, but that's part of the problem I explained in my first post. Blind leading the blind. Don't you think it's a bit ironic that you create a thread about tips for making money, yet your in here spreading negativity that millionaires don't exist on this forum?

                            Classic example of what I was talking about in my first post.
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                            • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
                              Originally Posted by TheSalesBooster View Post

                              When did I ever say anything about push-button millions?

                              And great for you that you created a helpful thread, but that's part of the problem I explained in my first post. Blind leading the blind. Don't you think it's a bit ironic that you create a thread about tips for making money, yet your in here spreading negativity that millionaires don't exist on this forum?

                              Classic example of what I was talking about in my first post.
                              So you see the two as a contradiction. Well, when I'm making many times more than the average Warrior, according to the stats, I think I have something of value to share.

                              I also don't see it as "negativity": I see it as a reality check. Maybe you have uncovered a limiting belief, though.
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                              • Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

                                So you see the two as a contradiction. Well, when I'm making many times more than the average Warrior, according to the stats, I think I have something of value to share.
                                Quick question: are you making more or less than $1,000/month from online marketing?

                                Because if the answer is "less", then I agree with user TheSalesBooster: it's a classic example of the blind leading the blind, which happens often here at the WF.
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                                • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
                                  Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

                                  Quick question: are you making more or less than $1,000/month from online marketing?

                                  Because if the answer is "less", then I agree with user TheSalesBooster: it's a classic example of the blind leading the blind, which happens often here at the WF.
                                  Nope, I make several thousand and it leads to several more thousand in consulting. Also, for the last year I've had a full time senior management role with a $20 million firm, so have only been able to work on growing my online biz about 4 hours a week. The rest of the time (evenings & weekends) is in fulfillment. I work like crazy.

                                  Go to the offline subforum and check out my posts. I don't come up here often so I know I don't have a rep in the main forum.
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                                  • Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

                                    Nope, I make several thousand and it leads to several more thousand in consulting.
                                    Ok, then another question: if you make several thousands of dollars per month online, why did you say in your first post of this thread that millionaires cannot possibly be found in this forum?
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                                    • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
                                      Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

                                      Ok, then another question: if you make several thousands of dollars per month online, why did you say in your first post of this thread that millionaires cannot possibly be found in this forum?
                                      Simple math?

                                      Several thousand a month won't make you a millionaire. It'll make you pretty well off, depending where you are (Yes in North Carolina, where I am; New York, not so much). My coaching isn't push-button stuff, so it doesn't appeal as well as software. Affiliates are my biggest constraint. I've figured out how to make it scalable through video training and group coaching, but broadcasting the word is the challenge.

                                      Mostly I'm doing my online leadgen through LinkedIn, but I only started that recently with paid coaching.

                                      So...should we go knock this guy because he said pretty much what I did?
                                      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-business.html
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                                      • Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

                                        Simple math?

                                        Several thousand a month won't make you a millionaire. It'll make you pretty well off.
                                        You're not the only person in this forum. If you make several thousands per month, why couldn't someone else make several tens of thousands per month? or several hundreds of thousands per month?
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                                        • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
                                          Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

                                          You're not the only person in this forum. If you make several thousands per month, why couldn't someone else make several tens of thousands per month? or several hundreds of thousands per month?
                                          My original point was that it takes work to set up the systems and make it work. It isn't going to happen overnight unless you can plug into someone else's existing system.

                                          Many, maybe even most, people come into this forum thinking they are going to instantly make lots of money by buying one WSO and not doing much with it. Wrong. That is the point I am trying to get across.

                                          I do not see how newbies can make a million bucks in this forum. Maybe that's a limiting belief; however, when they don't even know the pieces of the puzzle how are they going to put together the right offer and get all the affiliates they need to get there?

                                          Oh and I've made $538 while I've been sitting here talking to you. Pretty good morning so far.

                                          So far in this thread I have not seen one useful tip on how to move in that direction.
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                                          • Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

                                            My original point was that it takes work to set up the systems and make it work. It isn't going to happen overnight unless you can plug into someone else's existing system.

                                            Many, maybe even most, people come into this forum thinking they are going to instantly make lots of money by buying one WSO and not doing much with it. Wrong. That is the point I am trying to get across.
                                            To this, I obviously agree. Not about the "system" part (I believe there's no "system" per se), but about the fact that most people in this forum have the wrong mentality.

                                            However, you said that there are no millionaires to be found in this forum (you literally said "Warriors don't make millions."), which is certainly false.

                                            Oh and I've made $538 while I've been sitting here talking to you.
                                            That is irrelevant to this discussion.
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                                            • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
                                              Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

                                              To this, I obviously agree. Not about the "system" part (I believe there's no "system" per se), but about the fact that most people in this forum have the wrong mentality.

                                              However, you said that there are no millionaires to be found in this forum (you literally said "Warriors don't make millions."), which is certainly false.



                                              That is irrelevant to this discussion.
                                              No it is not; I'm not a poor whiner sitting around saying "Nothing works".

                                              I don't believe there are more than a handful of people who started here and made millions. I doubt they made a million on this forum alone.

                                              Gotta run...coaching call to deliver.
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                                              • Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

                                                I doubt they made a million on this forum alone.
                                                Why would anyone look to make millions off a forum alone? That'd be retarded. This is *internet* marketing, not *WF* marketing.
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                                  • Profile picture of the author DanielSP
                                    Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

                                    I work like crazy.
                                    People who works, don't have enough time to earn money. Like my grandma used to say.

                                    This thread is nice..

                                    Im not a millionarie yet and I know that the first point that will lead me to reach that is accepting the fact that I'm elegible to reach this goal. Maybe, talking about money, you are much closer than me of getting this million but your mindset turns me closer than you.
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                          • Profile picture of the author latestnewsheadline
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                            Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

                            Because I don't believe in fairy tales of push-button millions? LOL
                            Some of warriors believe and now they are millionaires.
                            I found the push-button for you.

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          • Profile picture of the author latestnewsheadline
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            Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

            Such hostility!

            You know nothing about me, why I'm in this thread or what I do.

            How about offering something constructive?
            Sometime, the truth isn't packed in nice words.
            It can be bitter, but for sure, it's helpful.
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  • Profile picture of the author sal64
    Selling drugs and pimpn; my ass, that's how I did it.

    What? Oh you mean online?

    Pimpin my ass on a webcam.

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  • Profile picture of the author ToniMaltano
    Making a million or even millions online is much easier than doing it offline in my mind
    and I am doing both. Of course you have to know what you are doing but it's the same
    in the offline world.

    Just think about how many people you can reach on the internet, it's crazy. I mean even
    the offline companies, who are selling physical products are heading to the internet to
    either sell online or find business partners.
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  • Profile picture of the author Silent Voices
    I'll tell you how after a few years...
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  • Profile picture of the author Faisal66
    Thatz a huge target to reach..
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  • Profile picture of the author Anomalous
    Anyone who has made any consistent money online knows questions like these don't get you there. Time spent on the whipping post called life is what gets you there. Being crushed to pieces by your failures and bad decisions, and getting back up. When you have the resolve to do that, you can take any one of an endless sea of working systems and make millions, or you can make your own.

    Attitude and mental toughness make millionaires, nothing else.
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    • Profile picture of the author theaccountant
      peace posted deleted jumped to incorrect conclusions
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      • Profile picture of the author Anomalous
        Originally Posted by theaccountant View Post

        are you nuts?

        I am very comfortable in the offline world. I was making a serious general point.

        Go make some money then we can have a serious conversation
        I didn't even read your post friend. My response was to the op.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kotkov
          Want to make a million?

          Close this thread now and concentrate on following your business plan.
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  • Profile picture of the author onegoodman
    okay, i didn't yet but if I did, I don't think I will be sharing it anywhere lol
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    • Profile picture of the author theaccountant
      Originally Posted by onegoodman View Post

      okay, i didn't yet but if I did, I don't think I will be sharing it anywhere lol
      You are a senior warroir with more than 1000 posts.

      Does that mean you have been spending all your waking hours cruising in here or that you have acheived online success.

      Well you indicate from your post that you have not be successful online -yet.

      So am I to draw the conclusion that the number of posts/thanks or even senority here is no indication of online success
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      • Profile picture of the author jasondinner
        Originally Posted by theaccountant View Post

        So am I to draw the conclusion that the number of posts/thanks or even senority here is no indication of online success
        :confused:
        Correct. All it means is they have a lot of posts. Nothing more, nothing less
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  • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
    I do believe the money is in the mindset. As vague as a statement as that is, its still one of the most profound things to realize.

    For instance, when I came onto this forum I had a spark, and I had a dream. And I refused to let anyone else try and impose their reality into my world. I've never made a million, but I've accomplished many things that still suprise me on a day to day basis.

    If the OP sounded frustrated and upset, like he had tried everything and was fed up that he didn't make a million dollars, then that calls for a bit of tough love imo.

    But I did not sense that at all from him. He almost sounded happy to me, and that is a terrible time to piss on someones parade.

    As much as I realize we have lazy people on this forum, as much as I realize there are charlatans and snake oil salesmen, I still think its crucial to have a completely irrational dream, and to preserve that dream as much as possible.

    Like someone else said, its not visions of a dollar that cause people to take massive action in life and get rich. I remember when I got in shape years ago. When I went to the gym, my days weren't spend thinking "I just want to look less puney". Of course I would think about it, but most of the time I was dreaming about being in incredible shape. Having the 6 pack, the biceps, thinking about how cool it would be to look like Arnold.

    Now laugh at my dreams all you want. And no I didn't wind up looking like Arnold. But I got in better shape than 99% of my friends and family BECAUSE of those irrational dreams.

    So I carry those same types of dreams with me everywhere I go in life. And yes, they are tempered with logic and reason. But not to the point where it stifles and suffocates me. There are too many broke, bitter, excuse making people in this world. And as annoying as it might be to hear a question like the OP asked, wouldn't you much rather hear that than "you're all FOS, nobody on this forum is making money, I can't make money, you're all liars, I hate WF" type stuff?

    So dream on brother, dream on. Don't let anyone rain on your parade.

    BTW, I do definitely believe that Kannigan had the best intentions when he wrote that post. But I think the calibration was a bit off, and he wound up revealing more about himself than anything else.

    Again, I'm not saying its a bad thing. We all have our fears and dreams in life, and this thread could have wound up in either direction. The only reason it didn't turn into a pity party, is because some vets spoke up. And there is something profound to take from that as well. Nobody is really right, the optimistic folks or the pessimistic ones. We all view life from our own distorted versions of reality. But I'd much rather live a fake happy fairytale, than a nonrealistic negative nightmare.

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    • Profile picture of the author MikeTucker
      Originally Posted by TheSalesBooster View Post

      I've made my first million being an affiliate marketer, Now I focus mainly on my own products.

      Some people in this thread are right about one thing... 99% of the people on this forum are running in circles. It's the blind leading the blind here. This forum and digitalpoint are a running joke to most top internet marketers. It's like the kindergarten of the internet marketing world, but everyone has to start somewhere.

      Only problem is that most people who start out here will most likely never succeed, not because they don't have the determination or skills... It's because this whole place is like a stagnant pond. There's a lot of talk and discussions, but it doesn't go anywhere. It's just recycled knowledge that gets passed down from the guys at the top and get's sold as a WSO and circulates here for years.

      The whole mentality here is sickening to be honest. So much laziness and self doubt...

      If you really are serious about making money on the internet, you need to start looking beyond just warriorforums for information and you need to get out there and get your hands dirty. You will never make money if you sit around and make threads like this every week.
      I like to think the WF is a step above DP, but otherwise this is sadly accurate.^^



      Originally Posted by TheSalesBooster View Post

      The secret to success is...

      [Pay $99 to unlock this post and reveal the secret to success]

      ...and that's how you will make your first million in less than 6 months.

      Point is, I never give away my secrets for free. Especially to people who won't put it to any use.
      No "Giving Back" or "Paying It Forward"? Yeah most people may
      be a waste of time and effort, but why try to sell the info to
      a bunch of broke people, anyway? And why abandon the good ones
      to be led by the "blind"?

      It's true, we really do need more good "Kindergarten" teachers...




      Originally Posted by RedShifted View Post

      BTW, I do definitely believe that Kannigan had the best intentions when he wrote that post. But I think the calibration was a bit off, and he wound up revealing more about himself than anything else.

      -Red
      Perhaps this. Good intentions, poor execution.
      A mistake I have made more than once.
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  • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
    /\ Absof##knlutely.

    Post count to me just means that a certain person might be more willing to help you out. But as far as them being more successful, I do not see that correlation & never have.
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    • Profile picture of the author theaccountant
      Originally Posted by RedShifted View Post

      / Absof##knlutely.

      Post count to me just means that a certain person might be more willing to help you out. But as far as them being more successful, I do not see that correlation & never have.
      Helpful? how? well meaning and well intention-yes?

      How can the advice in such a situation more than likely be risky , if the person who has given such advice has not been successful themselves???:confused:

      I can see how lessons learned can be extremely helpful of what not to do- I can give loads of that for online, but what to do... no
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  • Profile picture of the author tsx
    Cosmetics. Not quite $1,000,000 but close, $750,000 from one product. 2 partners.
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  • Profile picture of the author icemusike
    $290k so far... but planing to hit 1 mil this year. i dedicated myself to work all year full.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joan Altz
    You're talking about Monopoly money, right? Well, I was maybe 7 or 8 years old....the whole hotel domination thing.
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    • Profile picture of the author theaccountant
      Originally Posted by Joan Altz View Post

      You're talking about Monopoly money, right? Well, I was maybe 7 or 8 years old....the whole hotel domination thing.
      Me tucker your point absolutely illustrated here. Now where are those hide out where there are serious marketers ?
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  • Profile picture of the author theaccountant
    Did some research and came up with something

    It is a paid one will be comparing there here but not being specific as I don't want to make waves
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    • Profile picture of the author theaccountant
      Originally Posted by sirtiman View Post

      I'm not gonna tell you.
      You are not a millionaire.. but nice try
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      • Profile picture of the author depp12
        Its been reported that 2% of all affiliates are responsible for 90% of all affiliate program sales.
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  • Profile picture of the author thedanbrown
    Originally Posted by latestnewsheadline View Post

    Because "How did you make..." it is a trendy question, I want to ask you:
    How did you make your first $1,000,000 online?

    I'm sure, some of you can tell us the story.
    Who dares to start?
    hahah pretty sure anyone who's made "their first million" probably isn't hanging around the main internet marketing discussion forum
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  • Profile picture of the author theaccountant
    Originally Posted by webproishere View Post

    selling porn


    sorry mom...
    hahaha where send me the link
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  • Profile picture of the author KSimon
    yeah I would like to hear someone how did that
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    • Profile picture of the author Nightengale
      Mike Tucker and LatestNewsheadline,

      Thanks. It's nice to know someone else "gets it' and understands what I was trying to say.

      Another thread here (http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ey-online.html) just made me roll my eyes. "Oh brother, another one!" It just never ends.

      He's pleading for advice and wants us to "spill the beans," like there's some big secret. I posted my very best advice, something I think is often missing in the advice given here. (It was certainly a missing piece of the big picture for me for a long time.)

      He's apparently passed right over it. :rolleyes:

      Others are giving advice like "work hard." True, but utterly unhelpful. (And makes me wanna slap someone!)

      People, the diamonds are right under your nose! (The problem is, you still have to separate them from the coal.)

      And people wonder why they can't just get all they need from a forum, or why they spend so much time in a forum, yet can't get ahead...

      Grrrr!

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  • Profile picture of the author kevin jackson
    Interesting thread and interesting responses actually. They were also quite predictable. Everyone answered from their own experiences and perspectives which is completely understandable.

    I'm not a millionaire and there are not very many of them on the planet or even in the US although the numbers here in the US are greater. By definition in any industry there will only be a few high earners because those earners are at the top of their industries. If someone makes it to the top then most of the others will be on the bottom. Success is not an equalizer. Opportunity is.

    Broad sweeping generalized statements and assumptions cannot be truly made about any group of people anywhere including on this forum. There are always exceptions. Everyone has an equal opportunity online to be successful even to the tune of 7 figures or more and yes even from this very forum or any forum for that matter. That does not mean that every single member here will instantly or even eventually become a millionaire. Who can even attempt to guarantee or predict what will or won't happen or what can't happen?

    In any game there are certain rules and the game to become an online millionaire has it's own rules too. The same rules that apply in any industry to succeed greatly in that industry apply to online marketing as well. They are slightly adjusted to fit this industry and the fast changing dynamics of all tech based industries. Look at AOL, Myspace and Ask Jeeves or Excite from just a few years ago.

    The bottom line is that if a person wants to become an online millionaire, finds the paths that other online millionaires have taken and follows that or similar path and sticks to it he has the same chance to succeed that the others before him did. Success always leaves clues. Not everyone is willing to do what it takes to succeed. Internet marketing is no different even starting from this very forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author winagain
    Not yet there, but I will sure be here when I get my first million.
    You are learning every day. The moment you think you know it all it's when you will begin to lose.
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  • Profile picture of the author OrangeBull
    I have not made a million yet. I have spent my time doing my homework looking for the right opportunity.

    Business to business sales seem the most promising to me based on my research and those kinds of businesses tend to scale most quickly. Just review the Inc. 500.

    I have spent time learning tactics and techniques for reaching consumers here which may prove valuable in terms of marketing business services to the people who are in the online marketing arena. From newbies to the expert marketers, and I believe I have identified a tool that just about everyone needs and which they will pay for repeatedly.

    I have also identified a needed service for existing online businesses that is being unserved. I have also spent time learning about back office things and pitfalls to avoid right here.

    At the moment I'm teaching myself to code because I have time to do so and those skills will be valuable in launching my service and in leading what I hope will become a fast growing business.

    I could be wrong, but I believe I will launch this summer, and within two months of launch I expect the company will be earning somewhere in the mid five figures per month.

    I believe if the profits are properly reinvested and I continue to maintain a leading position in an underserved area of the market while competitors join the bandwagon, I will continue to grow quickly while developing a patentable technology on phase two of operations that should allow the business to scale into at least the tens, if not hundreds of millions of dollars of revenue per annum realm.

    Phase three of the growth cycle will be to further streamline costs and turn the technology used to streamline costs into a new profit center, while investing in lateral growth by diversifying the products offered by the company and the markets served.

    If all goes well, within ten years the company launched this year will be in the multibillion dollar range.

    Of course there are about twenty million things that need to go right for that to happen, but this opportunity is the first I've seen that can be started for under a thousand dollars and scale.
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  • By not spending money on stupid stuff.

    You'd be surprised how many affiliates making in HUGE amounts of money back in the rebill days spent it all on bottle service and yayo.

    Live humble, and re-invest.
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    • Profile picture of the author andrewkar
      Well I agree with Jason Kanigan.

      "Warriors are poor" it's a real statement. Ok it's generalization but this is how our heads work.

      Just look at the marketplace... WSO section. What you see there?

      Products for $7000, $70000 or maybe for $7, $17, $27?

      And intention of Jason's post is very good. Thinking, talking and listening about making $1000000 (BTW $1M is not that much....) won't make anyone any money.

      And in my opinion being negative or positive has nothing to do with making money. You can be positive as hell, but if numbers don't add up it won't work. Being real is good (and having vision and skills).

      WF is a great place sure, a lot of info (good and bad) and many cool people.

      However... there is a dark side as well (of IM in general not just WF).

      Side which is made to squeeze as much cash as possible form those "poor warriors" who bought that 1000000 dream (and people who do that are in my opinion the worst sort of humans creatures... they may think they are great sharks of internet marketing but in fact, most of the time they are just bottom feeders. Yep, even those big names of IM world).

      Anyway...

      I would say, Don't ask HERE how to make millions but get and read books from people who actually made it, and are well known (Great people like Edison, Ford, Buffett, Gates, Munger, Tramp etc.).

      WF is perfect to ask some technical stuff, how to do this and that, how to sell this and that, what to say etc.

      And one more thing

      I could say I have made $5000000 last year, why not? or that I'm super duper affiliate... and so what?

      Get real and model real successful people, not forums avatars.

      My 2c.

      P.S And if someone is not using his real name here, it's better to assume that he comes from fantasy land.

      P.P.S Yep I know. I have no real name, I will change it
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  • Profile picture of the author gknugurlu
    I've made my first million $$$, but I was not so lucky, my happiness ended very fast because I just woke up))))

    For instance it's still in my dreams only))
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  • Profile picture of the author rwbovee
    I was happy to earn $286 from AdSense a few weeks ago. If you know how to make $1,000,000 please tell me.
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  • Profile picture of the author flyingdutch
    The easy way to get to 1.000.000 $..........

    ....

    Start with 10.000.000$
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  • Profile picture of the author ZedyDiamond
    Really interesting and strong opinions here. Once again I'm motivated to work now
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  • Profile picture of the author gregdavidson727
    Originally Posted by latestnewsheadline View Post

    Because "How did you make..." it is a trendy question, I want to ask you:
    How did you make your first $1,000,000 online?

    I'm sure, some of you can tell us the story.
    Who dares to start?
    Most people who are making that much only occasionally stop by this forum. They're obviously busy figuring out how to make even more money.
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  • Profile picture of the author dileepptdr
    I will again replay here after 2 years. and i will say , how i did this
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  • Profile picture of the author schttrj
    It just goes to show that HARDLY anyone makes one million here...
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  • It's kind of depressing to see how many people ARE NOT making a good amount of money...hearing success stories motivates me so much more.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jarrett
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    the first million I made...

    I found a passion - marketing.
    I then got involved in the community and joined a forum (was a similar one to WF).
    I just shared my story and created a journal thread.. 'Come follow me as I make money online'.. I knew nothing. I was brand new to marketing at the time.. but I freely shared what I had learned and gave value...

    This caught the attention of a few guys who were successful marketers.. They started giving me some tips. We'd jump on phone calls and just talk. One day I recorded it... I just basically asked him newbie questions and he answered them..

    Then we tried doing videos.. (I did a call with him then I added slides to it afterwards.. it was super ghetto.. lol) BUT...

    I then shared the calls + videos with people on the forum.. Then I got tons of emails come in from people.. " OMG! this stuff is great.. do you have an afifliate link for this? I want to promote it to my list.."

    I was shocked.

    What.. you mean I could actually make money from this stuff?!
    Lol. all this time I had been sharing this stuff.. and never even thought about making money from it..

    I turned the interviews and content I had into a membership site. I called it Traffic Dynasty. I had no idea how to write copy.. but bought an ebook on it and figured I'd give it a shot.

    Honestly.. the copy was bad lol.

    But I was excited.. I just put together my own membership site..

    I charged $47/mo from it..

    ALL I did to promote the place was I added a little signature to my forum post that said something like 'Check out what Jarrett is up to now! - Click Here to Join Traffic Dynasty'

    Just from that signature link alone.. I got 1500 people to sign up in the first 2 months.

    That's $70k/mo = $840k /yr

    There were a few affiliates that jumped on board.. helped me get alot more sign ups.. I gave them 50% commission /recurring.

    members loved the content. my average stick rate was 5-8 months.
    Inside the membership site I told them to get hosting with Hostgator.

    Hostgator paid me $100 / sign up. I got about 15% of the people to sign up for it.
    They needed Aweber. Got commissions from that.
    Market Samurai, other keyword tools, etc.

    And I promoted 2 of the higher ticket guru launches ( John reese and Andy Jenkins)

    Between that stuff right there.. that all put me over $1mil.


    After that.. I focused on PPC (mainly Google Content Network)
    I love google content network because there is SOO much traffic, there is cheap clicks, if you've got a great product in a big market you can crush it.. and get laser targeted.

    I sent traffic to CPA offers.. Mainly Teeth whiteners, weight loss, colon cleanse, etc.

    The teeth whitening campaign alone was doing $1k/day.. Payout was $46, I was averaging 25 - 30 sales a day. so there ya go.

    Later.. I started creating products because it was something I really enjoyed doing.
    I'd pick a market like Weight loss / IM / or whatever vertical I felt like taking over.
    That had a desperate market and mass appeal.

    I would then create a super high quality product in that niche.
    Then I would find out who the biggest players in that market was (it's pretty easy.. chances are they have a best seller on Clickbank already or a top selling book on amazon)

    Contact them. show them the course. If you've got something killer.. it should sell itself.
    Then I'd just ask them if they wanted to partner up and help me launch it.. we'd split the profits.

    It worked. and that was how I got my first #1 product on clickbank.

    And you'd be surprised how many other top marketers have got their start from creating a great course and then just partnering up with people

    If you want to make your first million... here would be my advice to you.. take one of the following paths:


    1.) Membership sites - seriously some of the easiest money I've ever made.
    It's recurring.. so it adds up QUICK! even if all you can do is add 10 new members each month.. that's a win!!! because at that rate.. by the end of the year.. you'll have 120 people paying you monthly on autopilot.

    Give them incentive to tell their friends.. and watch it explode.

    Also.. if you run a membership site.. you are now instantly seen as the expert. Which means you've got a huge following of people who now know/like/trust and look up to you.
    Find solid products to endorse.. affiliate offers.. high ticket stuff to sell.. and you'll make a TON more money.

    I'd integrate facebook group into it, do weekly group calls / webinars, find ways to stay involved and create a community.. give tons of value and watch as people stay on forever.


    2.) Product Creation
    Find a desperate market that has money and is willing to spend it..
    ideally a big market where you can scale. Either pay people who are the best to help you launch it (launch managers, jv guys, etc.) or create a killer product and just partner up with someone who crushes it. This is how you can go from broke to making 7 figures quickly.

    3.) Paid traffic
    Pick a medium.. Facebook PPC. Media Buying. Google adwords etc.
    and own it. Keep cracking away at it.. Focus on really hot offers that are already tested and that pay out well.

    4.) High ticket / Webinars.
    Seriously.. if I had to start all over from zero right now.. this is probably where I'd start.
    One of the fastest ways to make serious cash online.

    Create a high ticket product, coaching, consulting package.. Ideally something that is scalable.. Then just pitch it via webinar or auto webinar (Evergreen business / Stealth Seminar / Webinar Jam all are awesome)

    You can sell it straight off facebook PPC.. it's a wrap.
    Or get Jv's etc.

    If you're selling a product for $1,000.. all you need is 1,000 sales that whole year and you got $1mil...
    At $2,000 all you need is 500 sales the whole year..
    If you've got a coaching program.. sell it for $5k... All you need is 200 people that year to make $1mil.


    With the webinar templates in leadpages you can easily get 50-60% opt in rate straight off cold traffic.. (hello, fb ppc anyone / higher level solo ads?)

    Do some good follow up emails.. you can get alot of people to show up at the webinar..
    A decent webinar.. you can get 15 - 25% of people to sign up.. even at $2k+

    So just do your numbers and crush it.
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  • Profile picture of the author aprilm
    Well, I haven't hit a million, but I have made thousands, and it has been with a mix between Adsense, Kindle, affiliate marketing, and selling my own products.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
    I'm amazed that some erudite individuals believe making a million is beyond anyone on Warrior Forum. Having been at this for 20 years, I strongly - fervently - disagree. It's less than $3K a day each year!
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  • Profile picture of the author jasondinner
    I will be crossing the million dollar mark this year and 90% of it will have been from affiliate marketing.

    And I still hang out here...
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  • Profile picture of the author JosephC
    Jamie Lewis and Anik Singal have accounts. They make millions!

    Originally Posted by jasondinner View Post

    I will be crossing the million dollar mark this year and 90% of it will have been from affiliate marketing.

    And I still hang out here...
    Also, Congratulations man! I do not plan to hit that for another 2 years. Lol
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  • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
    If you remove the get rich quick sellers, the snake oil salesmen and those skirting the law and add the caveat that the $1mil was made on a single project in a reasonable period of time, is there anyone here?

    This is probably what the OP was looking for. It's also probably what Jason Kanigan had in mind when he wrote his controversial reply.

    I and who knows how many others are at $1m+, but keep in mind this may be over a 15 year period and involve many different projects. Even the fast food worker will eventually make $1mil given enough time and $ inflation.
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  • Profile picture of the author TryBPO
    There's a big difference between making $1MM and being a "millionaire".

    I thought it was true, but I just checked our QB's to verify - My business partner and I made a bit over $1MM in 2012-2013.

    I think it's important to qualify what that means, though.

    Our business brought in total revenue of more than $1MM in the last two years. That's impressive to some and I'm proud of it, but others in our space or in business would say (KNOW) that it's chump change in the grand scheme of things.

    Ultimately, we have to cover staff, office costs, software expenses, marketing, our own salaries, etc. While we've built up reserves + a small war chest, we do our best to reinvest most of the profit into growth...something we'll be heavily focused on this year.

    We know others (you'll see this often in the eCommerce space...especially if they have small margins) that are bringing in multiple millions per year and their actual cash-flow is worse than ours.

    That $1MM I mentioned is split pretty evenly between our outsourcing company and our online activity with Empire Flippers. We got started outsourcing our own jobs, setting up a company, and then acting as 3rd party vendors to our previous employers.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    Originally Posted by aprilm View Post

    LOL! That's funny. I'm ashamed to say about 12 years ago, I actually responded to one of those emails by trying to fax in the info they requested. I was NOT scam savvy and really actually thought someone I didn't know might have left me millions of dollars in some foreign bank. Haha! Stupid me.
    Don't feel too badly. I was at my bank yesterday to take care of some paperwork and cash a small check. Next to each teller station was a placard warning people about common scams, including the "Nigerian scam" and all its variants.
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  • Profile picture of the author Will Edwards
    I have been involved in IM for 10 years now - actually, it's a bit longer if you count my first 2 failures. But my main site was actually 10 years old this Christmas. So what I have to say comes from 10 years of experience, sticking with the same project.

    There have been times I felt like quitting and there have been many things I started along the way, some of which I am still involved with. I like to start sites to try things out. If they work out, I keep them; if they don't I dump them. I don't bother with flipping; I just let them expire if I think they are not worth my time.

    I've said this many times here at the forum, but here it is again: in my first year I made $29! Seven years later, I quit the day job to do this stuff full time. I am still not a millionaire, but like one of the previous commentators above, I still dare to dream.

    For the first 9 years of my online journey, I never set a single financial goal. All of my goals were performance based rather than outcome based. But last year, I wanted to experience what might happen to my thinking if I were to be bold enough to set a really big goal - completely out of my comfort zone. And, although it sort-of scared me a bit, I eventually decided to set a goal of making $1million in 1 year and I began to chart my progress on my blog.

    What I didn't know at the beginning of last year was that Google were about to shake things up in a big way with the algorithm zoo. The notorious penguins, pandas and hummingbirds came after me and seriously impacted my traffic. I watched my Adsense earnings plummet (it's directly proportionate to traffic, of course) and I saw my earnings in other areas falling too. This despite the fact that I was working a lot harder than in previous years.

    By around Sept 2013, my site was receiving a fraction (about 1/6th) of its previous traffic and - discouraged - I completely stopped my normal activities. For a couple of months, I watched how much of the income I had built was genuinely passive. It turned out I had about $1600 per month trickling in without effort around that time.

    Instead of writing articles for my site and others, I simply started walking the dog a whole lot more and we went on much bigger walks too. I was turning things over in my mind to some extent, but I was also just walking, breathing in the fresh Exmoor sea air, enjoying the beautiful scenery and the amazing array of natural wildlife. People wrote to me to ask if there was anything wrong as they had stopped receiving my emails (nice to know you are missed eh?).

    Out of all of this walking and thinking (and not thinking too - at least consciously) eventually, came a new business plan. Actually, I would say, it is still solidifying i.e. there are still bits of it that are not completely decided upon. But the main ideas are there and, I am pleased to say that they are different ideas because, if there is one thing I have been thinking consistently is is ...

    "If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always got."

    So anyway, the year passed and I did not make the $1million and furthermore (for the reasons I explained above) I actually ended up making less than I did the previous year. But I think, for me, last year was a very important year. It made me think again about whether or not I would be prepared to stick with the same project.

    10 years of trying would probably be enough for most people, but me, I can be donkey-stubborn. Somewhere last year, I learned that the guy who runs the #1 Abs product in CB failed repeatedly for a significant length of time. I can't now remember how many years it was, but I took encouragement from the fact that he eventually succeeded with the same product after years of failure.

    So the answer is 'yes' I am still committed to my main project. I have not changed the goal. But, as Zig used to sometimes say, I needed to 'change the route'.

    What has come out of this experience for me is learning. There is something I needed to learn and, this past year, I learned it. It is this: I need to build a business that is independent of Google as its traffic source. It took the might of the entire Google programming team to teach me that lesson. But, I can tell you - the lesson has been learned!

    Actually, it goes to show how stupid I can sometimes be!!!

    I can recall various Warriors here saying the above. But I thought I knew better. After all, I create quality sites offering excellent information. So why would big G ever come after me, I reasoned? Of course the truth is that they didn't come after me, but I got caught in the crossfire.

    The good news is that I do now have my new traffic strategy worked out and elements of my Business Plan are coming together so I am neither giving up on the project nor the dream.

    In writing this, I hope I might have helped a few people here to realise that it is possible but, it ain't easy; that failure is a part of the process; and also that ...

    "Those who forget the pasta will be condemned to reheat it!"

    My best to all fellow Warriors who share the dream

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  • Profile picture of the author ibuywireless
    I just got back into internet marketing, I dont expect to make a million dollars but in my time off Ive found and become succesful with another business venture and it changed the mindstate I originally had. You can be a millionaire for sure with the info here but it will take propper procedures, and business mindset, and be ready to stay up late working on projects, and getting everything you need in order, if it doesn't completely consume your life as you work on projects you probably wont get far, in internet marketing or anything else
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  • Profile picture of the author leisurexperience
    Those who really make his/her $1million online will not share what they did. That's is their secret and why they need to tell us.
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  • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
    I have made it net as well, but it was over so many years that there is nothing to shout or to be proud about. It was done mainly though e-commerce and link selling. At its height, my e-commerce shop had over 0.5M sales per year but we had to employ four full time staff including a web designer. We sold electronics and the overall margin was low. In fact, I really don't have a clue exactly how much we earnt from the business. As for sales, the total sales was 0.9M and majority of it was profit.

    We decided to close the e-commerce after being hit by staffing problems. We also had trouble in transitioning to smartphones because there were so many models. As for link selling, it was truly near a "4 hour week" passive income business. I hardly spent over 1.5hours a day on it.

    But that was in the past and right now I am in big trouble. The link selling business was already very bad since Google undertook a series of campaigns against it. Last month, the business was virtually wiped out. However, I knew that was coming along and switched to affiliate marketing last year. However, that was even worse. I produced sales of over $600,000 for my main merchant last year by PPC. They then suddenly decided to cut affiliate commissions by 25% in Sep. But worse was to come, the conversion rate suddenly dropped from over 4% to less than 1%. After contacting them, they said that they may have done something to the website that could have interfered with sales tracking. The conversion rate is back up to 2% but my profit dropped to a quarter as a result. Last week, they threatened to impose conditions that would virtually end my association with them as an affiliate. However, they have held it off for the moment and so I will see how it goes.

    So I am absolutely fed up right now. My two main sources of income collapsed within a few months. They were completely unconnected and so I was supposed to have some degree of diversification. I was hamstrung much of last year because of my elder autistic daughter. She was in hospital for over 4 months and now, I have to spend over 2.5 hours taking her to and from school every day. I was not lazy last year, it is just that I was not lucky to hit it big with other merchants.

    My advice to those who go full time is that you must try to save up some of the money you made if things suddenly go wrong. Also, you are very dependent on others and Google if you concentrate complete on affiliate marketing and passive income.


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    Never hit that much, but have a dream to hit
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  • Profile picture of the author Sitestomp
    RE: this entire thread

    I know quite a few people who have made over a million dollars in this industry. Of course they didn't make that money overnight and it took many years of blood, sweat, and tears. Some are members here. Some aren't.

    There are plenty of millionaires in this industry. Whether they hang around online forums is debatable though.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnabraham93
    When I fast time earn money is not easy for me. Because My skill are not good. But now I earn money and easy for me. I am not earn lot of money. I use this site to earn money. It is easy for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author fabulousfei
    Originally Posted by latestnewsheadline View Post

    Because "How did you make..." it is a trendy question, I want to ask you:
    How did you make your first $1,000,000 online?

    I'm sure, some of you can tell us the story.
    Who dares to start?
    i am green hand here and would like to hear too.
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    • Profile picture of the author Johnny1975
      I made my first few million doing....oh wait, I'm poor. Scratch that.

      I'm no expert but it would seem to me that the way to do it is to :

      * Learn what works
      * Learn from mistakes and make it better
      * Learn mainly from the very best (Eben Pagan comes to mind), but don't discount other people's advice
      * Do it for a long time, and be careful with your money

      Also, I would say that there's no point in being fixated on making millions. First you should think of the kind of lifestyle that you truly, genuinely wish to have. Be realistic about what you really want and need. No need to be greedy. Then think of what average annual income it would take to fund that lifestyle, plus money to put aside for whatever (rainy day, investments, retirement, long term stuff, or just a buffer to ensure that if it all falls apart you'll still be able to maintain your lifestyle for a few years while you get back on your feet (plus some money to help you do so)).

      And then that's your figure. If you exceed it, maybe you can give some money away to people who really need and deserve help. Money is like energy. It needs to keep flowing. My philosophy is that money should always be being spent (on necessary stuff and things that you really like), or put aside for something that is necessary, or given away. You only need so much of it before it becomes a burden. Money should be your servant. Your lifestyle and the things that don't cost money (happiness, love, etc) should always come first. Maybe one day I'll be in a position to put my philosophy into practise.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel J
    How did I make my first million? I'll let you know when I get there! I've crossed the $500,000 mark (profit) in the course of 3 years, so at this rate, I will make my "first million" in about 3 more years. Over a million per year would be great- and I am quite sure there are a small handful of people that do this. It's possible with e-commerce but it takes a lot of work (as well as knowing what you're doing!) It's great to hear the stories of others who are out there working toward similar goals!
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  • Profile picture of the author Zodiax
    Its not so much about the million.

    Its the person you have to become to make that million
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
      Originally Posted by Zodiax View Post

      Its not so much about the million.

      Its the person you have to become to make that million

      Ah, B.S. ... are you suggesting the only way to make a million is by compromising your integrity?

      At least that's what I got out of your statement.

      But, if you mean working hard, taking a few chances and working hard (did I say working hard already) then I agree, if not then I will have to decline your statement.

      Folks, we are in a GLOBAL marketplace here. You have to remember that... Not a lot of people can compute those figures in their heads so they automatically scale it back to something they can relate to, like their own town or city population.

      You do realize that
      245,203,319 people just in America use the internet right.

      You only need to find about 33,334 people who will spend $30 once this year on your own product to make $1,000,000

      Trouble is people want it by next week... without any experience whatsoever about how marketing works. They'll go and get sucked into buying a software product to get them lots of traffic but the problem is they have nothing to sell.

      I know a lady in her 50's who wrote an ebook in a niche that every Guru on the planet said to stay away from because that market has no money. She went ahead anyway... She priced it at $12.97 - her website sucks (sorry), her book image is absolutely horrible and she has sold over 80,000 copies thus far in just a few years.

      I feel sorry for the people who don't believe there are millionaires amongst us because that tells me they have been burnt in the past by believing some huckster instead of getting busy and making things happen for themselves.

      Sh!t, Eben Pagan started out with a 5,000 word article on a forum. That article turned into an info marketing empire. There is tons of proof but not without the work... you have to do the work! There is no way around it, unless you want to keep buying the next shiny object. Sure there are great software programs out there but get yourself a business with something to sell first before ever worrying about traffic.
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      • Profile picture of the author Zodiax
        Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post


        Ah, B.S. ... are you suggesting the only way to make a million is by compromising your integrity?

        At least that's what I got out of your statement.

        But, if you mean working hard, taking a few chances and working hard (did I say working hard already) then I agree, if not then I will have to decline your statement.

        Folks, we are in a GLOBAL marketplace here. You have to remember that... Not a lot of people can compute those figures in their heads so they automatically scale it back to something they can relate to, like their own town or city population.

        You do realize that
        245,203,319 people just in America use the internet right.

        You only need to find about 33,334 people who will spend $30 once this year on your own product to make $1,000,000

        Trouble is people want it by next week... without any experience whatsoever about how marketing works. They'll go and get sucked into buying a software product to get them lots of traffic but the problem is they have nothing to sell.

        I know a lady in her 50's who wrote an ebook in a niche that every Guru on the planet said to stay away from because that market has no money. She went ahead anyway... She priced it at $12.97 - her website sucks (sorry), her book image is absolutely horrible and she has sold over 80,000 copies thus far in just a few years.

        I feel sorry for the people who don't believe there are millionaires amongst us because that tells me they have been burnt in the past by believing some huckster instead of getting busy and making things happen for themselves.

        Sh!t, Eben Pagan started out with a 5,000 word article on a forum. That article turned into an info marketing empire. There is tons of proof but not without the work... you have to do the work! There is no way around it, unless you want to keep buying the next shiny object. Sure there are great software programs out there but get yourself a business with something to sell first before ever worrying about traffic.
        In order to be a millionaire, you have to break through so many limiting beliefs.

        You have to become a spiritual being.

        Most long-term millionaires are some of the most enlightened people I have met.

        im talking Tony Robbin millionaire.
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  • Profile picture of the author mhegedus17
    To hit those 7 figures you need your own product in my opinion. Look at the celebrity IMers like Shoemoney or John Chow. These guys have created their products and rarely sell others'. The money food chain is as follows:

    Affiliates -> Networks -> Advertisers
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  • Profile picture of the author tyronne78
    One thing I often hear is that making your first $100,000 (10k per month) is the hardest. Getting started is the hard part. Once you're making a few hundred thousand a year the game gets a whole lot easier,that's if you know how to manage your money.
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  • Profile picture of the author tyronne78
    I haven't made a million dollars online (yet) but I can tell you what I've learned over the last few years.

    1 - Create a business around your passions
    2 - Oustource what you suck at
    3 - Know your worth (you don't have to give everything away for free)
    4 - Have realistic expectations (this one is a biggie)
    5 - Be unique
    6 - Don't quit your day job until you're making 5X what your take home pay is
    7 - Enjoy the journey
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    • Profile picture of the author GamerZag
      Originally Posted by tyronne78 View Post

      I haven't made a million dollars online (yet) but I can tell you what I've learned over the last few years.
      I have, and your list is really good but I disagree with some points. Let me comment on them...

      1 - Create a business around your passions
      --- 100% True. Take something you have an extreme knowledge of offline, be it a hobby or something work related, and try to adapt it to something online.


      2 - Oustource what you suck at
      --- I would say it is more important to know first what you suck at. From there you should try and balance between learning new things and identifying where you should outsource.

      3 - Know your worth (you don't have to give everything away for free)
      --- I'd say this is not really a valuable response. If a person doesn't know their worth in life at this stage then they should first figure that out before working for themselves online.

      4 - Have realistic expectations (this one is a biggie)

      --- I disagree here. You should dream big and shoot for the stars. Be prepared for failures and use them as learning lessons and never stop dreaming big.

      5 - Be unique
      --- This is a big mistake. Unique doesn't make money. In fact, for newcomers, I would advise against this heavily. Find something that is doing well and emulate it and learn from it. As you start to learn more and more, make changes, tweak things, improve things. Once you know a lot and are comfortable, make radical and unique products. Take giant stabs at the world around you.

      6 - Don't quit your day job until you're making 5X what your take home pay is
      --- I disagree with the 5x number. If you are single, have a low cost of living, and can afford to fail, then go for it and take a big risk. People who are very successful often have taken large risks in live. Each person needs to make that personal evaluation and decide what is right for them.

      7 - Enjoy the journey
      --- "The point of a journey is not to arrive" <-- Rush
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      • Profile picture of the author blackbodhisattva
        Originally Posted by GamerZag View Post

        I have, and your list is really good but I disagree with some points. Let me comment on them...

        1 - Create a business around your passions
        --- 100% True. Take something you have an extreme knowledge of offline, be it a hobby or something work related, and try to adapt it to something online.


        2 - Oustource what you suck at
        --- I would say it is more important to know first what you suck at. From there you should try and balance between learning new things and identifying where you should outsource.

        3 - Know your worth (you don't have to give everything away for free)
        --- I'd say this is not really a valuable response. If a person doesn't know their worth in life at this stage then they should first figure that out before working for themselves online.

        4 - Have realistic expectations (this one is a biggie)

        --- I disagree here. You should dream big and shoot for the stars. Be prepared for failures and use them as learning lessons and never stop dreaming big.

        5 - Be unique
        --- This is a big mistake. Unique doesn't make money. In fact, for newcomers, I would advise against this heavily. Find something that is doing well and emulate it and learn from it. As you start to learn more and more, make changes, tweak things, improve things. Once you know a lot and are comfortable, make radical and unique products. Take giant stabs at the world around you.

        6 - Don't quit your day job until you're making 5X what your take home pay is
        --- I disagree with the 5x number. If you are single, have a low cost of living, and can afford to fail, then go for it and take a big risk. People who are very successful often have taken large risks in live. Each person needs to make that personal evaluation and decide what is right for them.

        7 - Enjoy the journey
        --- "The point of a journey is not to arrive" <-- Rush
        Thank you both for your input - love this post.

        The gist I'm getting from the Millionaires posting is I need to get my mind right and then get to work...seems like the first part is hardest.
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    • Profile picture of the author OfficerIM
      Originally Posted by tyronne78 View Post

      I haven't made a million dollars online (yet) but I can tell you what I've learned over the last few years.

      1 - Create a business around your passions
      2 - Oustource what you suck at
      3 - Know your worth (you don't have to give everything away for free)
      4 - Have realistic expectations (this one is a biggie)
      5 - Be unique
      6 - Don't quit your day job until you're making 5X what your take home pay is
      7 - Enjoy the journey
      I have a question on 6. Is that based only if your expensive match that already. Why would you wait till you make 5x what you make at work? You must have really loved your job. That's really cool though.
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    • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
      Originally Posted by tyronne78 View Post

      6 - Don't quit your day job until you're making 5X what your take home pay is
      If you aim for that, the chances are that it will be a very long wait or most probably won't happen at all.

      I think it is just as important to have a fair amount of money put away. The most quoted sum is 6 months' worth of savings but this should depend on your circumstances.
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  • Profile picture of the author tyronne78
    I know a few people that went from making 10k per month to delivering pizzas (back to where they started). Want to know how? By mismanaging their money. I totally disagree with you on point #6.
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  • Profile picture of the author ISAleksan
    I apologize for my English, and I personally still quite far from a million =), but a good tool for this is the Internet magazin.With a minimum of technical knowledge, you can earn good and after a year off to a good level.
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  • Profile picture of the author tyronne78
    Here are a few ways to make $1 million online:

    Start an SEO agency (results based work)
    SAAS (Software as a Service)
    Consulting (Frank Kern is good at this)
    Leverage Affiliates (create your own products and get people to promote them for you)
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  • Profile picture of the author OfficerIM
    I haven't made a million yet, i am actually just starting. but here is how i will make a million, invest in ideas that are sure to make money, turn them into companies so that they have more valuable merit, create jobs, invest in offline businesses/services, get involved with other opportunities till they work for me and repeat the entire process.
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  • Profile picture of the author tyronne78
    That was advice I got from someone who makes close to a million a year.
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  • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
    I hired an overseas printing company to print it for me, Man was that easy.
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  • Profile picture of the author robvegas626
    All of the 7-figure internet marketers I know and work with achieved their incomes through creating and marketing their own information products. (Many of them market their products on Clickbank, which seems to get criticized a fair amount on this forum, but I certainly have no complaints about it.) Some of these marketers are most certainly on this forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author ahmadhady64
    I read this artilce and i like to share it with you guys :
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    First, understand that you no longer want to be just a millionaire. You want to become a multimillionaire.

    While you may think a million dollars will give you financial security, it will not. Given the volatility in economies, governments and financial markets around the world, it's no longer safe to assume a million dollars will provide you and your family with true security. In fact, a Fidelity Investments' study of millionaires last year found that 42 percent of them don't feel wealthy and they would need $7.5 million of investable assets to start feeling rich.

    This isn't a how-to on the accumulation of wealth from a lifetime of saving and pinching pennies. This is about generating multimillion-dollar wealth and enjoying it during the creation process. To get started, consider these seven secrets of multimillionaires.

    No. 1: Decide to Be a Multimillionaire -- You first have to decide you want to be a self-made millionaire. I went from nothing—no money, just ideas and a lot of hard work—to create a net worth that probably cannot be destroyed in my lifetime. The first step was making a decision and setting a target. Every day for years, I wrote down this statement: "I am worth over $100,000,000!"

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    No. 2: Get Rid of Poverty Thinking - There's no shortage of money on planet Earth, only a shortage of people who think correctly about it. To become a millionaire from scratch, you must end the poverty thinking. I know because I had to. I was raised by a single mother who did everything possible to put three boys through school and make ends meets. Many of the lessons she taught me encouraged a sense of scarcity and fear: "Eat all your food; there are people starving," "Don't waste anything," "Money doesn't grow on trees." Real wealth and abundance aren't created from such thinking.

    No. 3: Treat it Like a Duty - Self-made multimillionaires are motivated not just by money, but by a need for the marketplace to validate their contributions. While I have always wanted wealth, I was driven more by my need to contribute consistent with my potential. Multimillionaires don't lower their targets when things get tough. Rather, they raise expectations for themselves because they see the difference they can make with their families, company, community and charities.

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    No. 4: Surround Yourself with Multimillionaires - I have been studying wealthy people since I was 10 years old. I read their stories and see what they went through. These are my mentors and teachers who inspire me. You can't learn how to make money from someone who doesn't have much. Who says, "Money won't make you happy"? People without money. Who says, "All rich people are greedy"? People who aren't rich. Wealthy people don't talk like that. You need to know what people are doing to create wealth and follow their example: What do they read? How do they invest? What drives them? How do they stay motivated and excited?

    No. 5: Work Like a Millionaire - Rich people treat time differently. They buy it, while poor people sell it. The wealthy know time is more valuable than money itself, so they hire people for things they're not good at or aren't a productive use of their time, such as household chores. But don't kid yourself that those who hit it big don't work hard. Financially successful people are consumed by their hunt for success and work to the point that they feel they are winning and not just working.

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    No. 6: Shift Focus from Spending to Investing - The rich don't spend money; they invest. They know the U.S. tax laws favor investing over spending. You buy a house and can't write it off. The rich, in contrast, buy an apartment building that produces cash flow, appreciates and offers write-offs year after year. You buy cars for comfort and style. The rich buy cars for their company that are deductible because they are used to produce revenue.

    No. 7: Create Multiple Flows of Income - The really rich never depend on one flow of income but instead create a number of revenue streams. My first business had been generating a seven-figure income for years when I started investing cash in multifamily real estate. Once my real estate and my consulting business were churning, I went into a third business developing software to help retailers improve the customer experience.
    Lastly, you may be surprised to learn that wealthy people wish you were wealthy, too. It's a mystery to them why others don't get rich. They know they aren't special and that wealth is available to anyone who wants to focus and persist. Rich people want others to be rich for two reasons: first, so you can buy their products and services, and second, because they want to hang out with other rich people. Get rich -- it's American.



    the source : entreprenuer.com
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