2 Years and Counting for NOTHING!

Feel your pain, don't know what to say to you. It was SBI Keyword tool that did me and my marriage in all those years ago. Never got past that infernal thing . In desperation I remember I borrowed £20k to get out of SBI and into a 'coaching ' program... that was the nail in my marriage .the last straw.

You are in a tough place. My solution was to dump IM for years and concentrate on building my profession offline. I am lucky. I hope you are too.

What are your stats like? What have you been doing besides SEO and social media to promote your site?

What are your conversions? You building a list?

How many pages are in your blogs? What does your blog look like? What are you writing in them?

More info is needed to help us help you.

...Oh, and ditch the sniper sites. Especially if they're not making anything and your heart isn't in them.

What is SBI?

What are your blogs? What are your traffic sources?

How are you monetizing them? What are the niches?

What have you read to learn from? Give us some info, and we'll give you real advice.

If your working 10+ hours a day for 2 years, how have you been supporting yourself? Maybe we can build on that skill-set.

Been there
What is is your over all finacial situation like
I am a believer in it costs money to make money

Have you tried paid traffic and selling crap online

I politely disagree.

I started making money with CPA networks, when I was dead broke and only used free traffic sources. Invested nothing in gurus, or advertising.

Then I moved onto building bigger sites, apps, and paid traffic sources.

But I will say it takes time to make money.

Are you testing what you're doing?

Doing the same thing and expecting a different results is the definition of insanity. I'm not being funny here, but brute force doesn't work.

Where were your successes? Were they on Kindle or your sniper sites? Do you know what caused their success? Can you reproduce that success?

You need to be building a list whilst you're doing all these other things - that's where the money is at. Make sure you test that.

Are you offering your visitors a solution to their problem?

It sounds like you are doing most of the right things and putting in the work, but maybe you aren't quite aiming in the right direction. It's hard to say not knowing exactly what your blogs and books are about (and I'm not saying you should reveal that here either).

Oh, big question

Where do I get my money to live?
I do not like to admit this but I am living off my parents. Yes, I have a wife and a little girl and I can not support them. This is why it is so agrevating.

We moved out of the country so it would be cheaper to live. And it is. BUT I still can't make any money consistently. So my parents have to support us becuase we can not get a regular job yet until we are permanent residence (in the next 6 months). How freaking embarrassing is that? And I HATE asking them for money.

Have you ever tried up sales?

What is your product, sounds like it should be offering more value.

As others have hit on. Your number one goal needs to be to get your traffic to opt-in to your mailing list. From there, you can build the relationship needed to consistently make the sales you need to hit your $500 a month goal.

Shhh!! Marketing 101 advice is not allowed here! :p

Are you in a profitable market?

Do you have a plan?

Do you have a system?

Do you have the right business model?

Are you better off focusing on other things instead of writing content for blogs etc?

Sal

Ashvin, i'm sorry to hear. After two years down the line, there clearly is an issue, something you need to address.

What is your site? Maybe if warriors have a look at this, can give you positive direction?
It is very difficult and upsetting when your in a position like that. What ebook are you writing, whats your strategy in selling them. Provide more stats, also in relation to visitors.

You say you create ebook as mentioned, have you ever considered to do work via odesk, elance etc?

Samuel

Why don't you post your site so that we can review it for you...that way we can give you some better advice.

You need some more opinions about your writing than just your wife. She loves you. She's going to love everything you do, whether it be good or bad. Same thing with parents. I wouldn't ever have an immediate relative try to critique your blog/website...they're all going to be proud of what you're doing and think that it's really good (because they can't create a website, right?!).

Let some other people in the business, a.k.a. Warriors, take a look and give you some advice.

It seems as if you're not placing your offers in front of targeted eyeballs.

Take some time out to do proper market research - find out answers to things such as:

- Where they hang out (bookmarking really isn't going to flood your site with traffic)
- What their needs and wants are.
- What problems keep them up at night.
- Whether *YOU* can offer them a tailored solution to that problem.
- How you can keep in contact with them before and after they purchase a product.
- Whether this niche has more than one problem, and whether you can market different/related products to them.
- How you can brand yourself differently to everybody else that are selling in the same niche as you.

It's Marketing 101. When in doubt, go back to the basics.

If you can answer and apply these fundamental questions to your marketing and products then I have no doubt that you'll begin to start seeing results.

Tl;dr - Find places where your niche hangout (online and offline), put forth a solution (affiliate product or your own) to them that solves their most pressing problems, create/build relationships to increase trust and brand yourself as an authority, sell related products to them.

You are still living in your own world.
if it is so easy to make money online, there would be a lot of rich guys here.

You are doing the things which can be done by a kid!
who does not know how to write and post blog! It is nothing great about writing ebook.

What you need are hungry buyers.
How are you going to get them? You need to channel them to your website, build a list, build good and consistent relationship with them (it could take up to 6months) and start to promote items to them.

this is the same as any kind of offline business.
if you still do not understand, you could observe how people are running a shop or offline business.

Stop doing all the useless stuff on hand. write down what you have learned so far.
You will find that you know very little about marketing.

Don't dream your living but live your dream.


Regards,
Alex

If you wish you can PM me your site and what you are promoting and I'll be able to take a look and pinpoint what you may be doing wrong. Its too hard to offer suggestions without knowing details since there are so many factors involved.

You are not a loser until you give up. I put in 4+ years before I could rely on online income and this was back in the day when things were lot easier but then again there werent so many resources and knowledge available those days either. You cant give up if you are truly passionate about it.

If you spent two years, working 10 hours a day creating Amazon sites, then I guarantee that you would be thrilled with the results. I've been working on my Amazon sites 8 hours a day for 6 months and I'm well on my way to making a full time income (I should hit the $2,000-3,000 mark from just one of my websites this month).

What you're doing now doesn't look as if it is working; therefore, it might be time to change your business model. I'm not saying to give up on your blogs, but focus elsewhere.

I have been on the internet since 1998 let me tell you the lessons that I have learned.

Very few people make money doing what you do now a days.
Even if they do make "good" money, I question how much it is.
Even if it is a "lot" of money, I question how much did they spend to get their buyers.

The only way I have made money on the internet is finding a PHYSICAL product that is VERY difficult to get, putting a right price on it, and selling it.

I have bought and sold domain names since 1998 and believe me I did not become rich doing that.

I am now putting up sites of, again, PHYSICAL products that are hard to get a hold of at the right price (this weeds out my competion in other state and countries).

As for information, ebooks, etc., anyone can copy your stuff and do what you are doing in days, if not hours.

The internet (except for a very few) should be treated as second income, not your primary one.

Good Luck

Maybe you picked the wrong niche? Also you maybe you do not write in such a way as to get your readers to do something like open their minds about a topic?

You have to focus on building a business.

How many events do you attend? How many JVs do you set up? Who do you work with? Or are you trying to do everything yourself?

For example....

Don't focus on "writing a blog"....focus on "building a blog business."

The difference is that people who write a blog are looking for content, trying to write new stuff, using adsense to monetize, etc etc.

People who build a blog business hire others to write content (you can even get others to do it for free), then you get them to post it on their social media networks (this is what Ryan Deiss' team and Huffington Post does).

So there are minor changes but you have to leverage your time.

Do you build your list or do you have someone else do it for you? Do you build your websites or do you have someone do it for you?

Start thinking "business."

maybe the content of your blogs are quite dull and are very common. how bout you try some other person write for it and then pay for it so that you'll have a brand new one.

Forget SEO and all that stuff. It's just an inconsistent way to make money.

Focus on ONE thing -- list building.

If you focus on just that ONE thing for the next 6 months then you will be making a LOT more than $500 per month. But it's up to you and how bad you want it. Don't buy WSO's, don't get tempted to try the next latest craze. Just stick to list building and you will get to a consistent income much quicker than any other method -- and your income will be a LOT more consistent and stable than any other method.

P.S. Don't look at the last 2 years as a waste. You now know a lot of stuff that doesn't work so it hasn't been completely wasted. It's what you do from today that really matters.

This is an interesting topic.....

I made a living online for 11 years. Here's how.... (basically all the stars aligned perfectly)

- A niche market that no one else was doing with low competition
- A powerful USP and sale letter
- Started in 2000 when things were less competitive especially ranking on search engines
- Built up a big affiliate program
- Built up a big mailing list
- I knew web design, photoshop, minor technical know how, marketing, copywriting, basically every skill you needed I had yrs of experience in already (Years of experience!)
- added tons of bells and whitles to the site to make it look like there was "a lot there"
- had tons of time on my hands as I was only seeing my GF about once a month
- Was living on my own for the first time so I was young, fit, and extra determined to make it work
- Only had to maintain a studio apartments so I had very few obligations and could put in 8 hr days easy
- Worked my tale off the first year to finally get things working
- Got a great 2 word domain prefectly describing my niche

Like all the stars aligned PERFECTLY. And things took off, and kept going for 11 yrs. Then bigger problems emerged and the site got sunk lets just say. It's like a Man of War found the Pirate Bay and laid waste to it. So my ship got sunk.

So now I'm floating on the remaining debree right now. Like seriously, I have no income at all. And now trying to rebuild from scratch. It just seems next to impossible.

The only advantages I see are stuff like:
- Video spash page sales ideas
- Sideways sales letter concepts
- Video presentations instead of sales letters
- Tapping the customers social media when they sign up (that's huge)
- Easier affiliate program set ups and hubs to join

So there are enough advantages that if you got a good idea it could explode. Look at Tumblr and Pinterest. They took off bigtime. So I'm kind thinking it would be need to do that, start something like that.

Alternatively I could build crappy websites for people as I'm an average web designer at best. Or I could go do something offline like learn a trade, start a small business, or potentially try some real estate stuff. But my hearts really not in that. Like I had that biz working like an online vending machine for 11 yrs. So all you want to do next is start up a new website. It's like building a new vending machine. Just what??? That's the question. I have like 1 good idea right now but it's so close to my old idea that got sunk that I'm afraid to launch it as it could get sunk just as easily.

Just not sure what to do anymore really. It just sucks. Again, no income at all. Can't do that forever. arrhhhhhhh. ;-p

So I hear you, it's tough out there. All the stars have to align just perfectly in order to get something working online. My guestimations are that probably 1 out of about 100 IMer's ever make it to a full time income. So the odds are really terrible.

There's just way too much to have to know. Then if you find someone who is making money they won't say a word about how. Then there's a million and one people that want to tell you how to make money online who've never actually made a dime and who you know are making all there money by teaching, not by any other real venture.

I think for a lot of people an easy way to make money is in house flipping. Completely separate area obviously but far better odds than the online thing. Only problem is you need certain things to qualify to do that such as: no debt or bankruptcy history, a good job, a downpayment, etc. And many people who are just starting out often don't have all those which makes it hard. But ya the IM thing is really hard. Takes a lot of hr's to get something working to make daily sales at which point you get motivated enough to start to rely on it and grow it. Until that point it's super challenging and requires enormous efforts.

It sounds to me like you're spreading yourself too thin and have become a victim of Information Overload. You have to reign in your ADD and really focus. Look all around you in the online, and offline world. Who is most successful? Is it the jack-of-all-trades super handyman, or the specialists? You bet your ass it's the specialists - the people who do one thing, and do it very well.

You really need to choose what your one thing is. Decide which aspect of IM you enjoy the most and focus 100% on that. If you try to do 10 things at once, you spread yourself so thin that they're all done very poorly, and none of them will yield results (which is exactly what you are experiencing).

Should you choose to focus on blogging, then spend 100% of your time adding new content to your sites. Don't even work at getting them back-linked. Pingler and a couple blog directories will do all the back linking you need. You can interlink all of your sites together, but don't waste time with all of the nonsense bull crap you read every day from the next "Guru" aka scam artist.

This next piece of advice is something you aren't going to want to hear, but it really needs to be said... You need to get a job. If you can't support your family, and you're desperate for money, then your head isn't in the right place to put any quality content together. You're going to be constantly looking for shortcuts, and shortcuts will undermine your long term potential 100% of the time. I know, I've been there, and so have lots of other people who ARE making decent money online right now. Additionally, most money made online doesn't pay out until 2 months after you make it, and it doesn't sound like you really have 2 months to be waiting for a paycheck.

I can say with a fair amount of certainty that if you follow the steps I'm going to outline below FOR FREE, you can be making $500ish dollars a month on auto pilot in the next six months. Yes I know, it's not as glamorous as making $50,000 in two minutes by clicking one button, but it's the real deal.

Some people might be mad at me for giving you this information, but it sounds like you need help. Hell, this is pretty much what my next WSO is going to be about. lol.

1. Figure out what you love, and are passionate about. I don't care if credit repair keywords pay eleventy billion dollars per click, if you don't love it, you wont spend the time on it which is required to get anywhere. Also, it will be obvious in your writing that you don't care about anything but money.

2. Figure out if other people love it too (aka keyword research). It doesn't matter how much you love collecting used toothpicks found at truck stops; if no one else loves that, then your site will be a barren wasteland.

3. Once you've found something you love, that other people also love, figure out how many people are currently writing about that topic. There can be other people, you don't have to be the first, but you don't want to be the 50,000th either.

4. Once you've found ONE (not 2, not 50, JUST ONE) topic that meets the above requirements, register a domain name, set your blog up, and start writing about it.

5. Install analytics, an seo plugin, site-map plugin, a ping plugin, and a super cache plugin. Set your google webmaster tools up.

6. When you have about 10 articles up, list your blog on 5-20 blog directories. This is kind of a pain, so you can outsource it, or do it yourself. Once it's done, never go back to those sites EVER! Remember, we're cutting down on the ADD, not contributing to it.

7. Write your ass off. If you don't have anything to write about that day, or don't feel like writing then dont do it! Go do something else. Go outside, spend time with your kids or something, but don't write. You have to WANT to write your articles or it shows through in your content. Try to use the keywords you found in step 2 as frequent topics for your articles.

8. When you are getting decent traffic (idk, like 200 visitors a day or something) put adsense up on your website.

9. When the website is making steady income, and has a steady natural traffic flow, you have my permission to move on to website number 2. Note, I said WEBSITE number 2. Not flavor of the month super product guru bullshit.... Make a second Website that you LOVE!

10. Continue to rinse and repeat.


I'll leave affiliate type advice to those who are more experienced in it.

Best of luck to you dude.

I wish I had the money to afford to let someone else write for me. But i don't. I am pretty much doing EVERYTHING myself. I built the website and everything myself. I write myself, I do marketing myself, I do my own photoshop work myself, etc. All because I can't afford to pay anyone to do it for me.

I did that for four years before I started to make any real money. Stick with it dude, you will eventually break through.

If you have been investing that amount of time and effort into one proven system, I believe you will be getting a totally different results. There are too much information available on the internet and it can be very confusing if you are just starting.

As what many warriors have mention, you will want to decide on one system that you will be following and stick to it.

I agree with the list building approach. You can do it by offering free products/guides or even better, creating your own products. I've been in IM since 2004 but only started building my lists in late 2010.

Don't wait any longer, figure out how to build your lists, a sales funnel, and keep growing from there. I know, lacking details but I'm pointing you on a path I know will benefit you. Is it the ONLY one? Of course not. But, speaking from experience you won't regret it!

Best of luck

Find a job first and make sure you can afford your life, then create a site and put 5 hours a day on it. So, you will know the money would come and after your day job , you will work on this site. Make sure it is the best in its niche and wait for another 2 years. You will make enough to quite your job.

How badly do you want to make this money?

Tell you what.

$250 and I'll spend an hour and a half with you via Skype.

You obviously have the work ethic, you just need to focus it in the right areas.

PM me if you're interested.

How much traffic are you getting?

How targeted is it?

What size email lists do you have?

What products are you selling?

How are your sales letters for your products converting?



If you have only one or two products that's probably your biggest
problem if you already have targeted traffic.


Two tips on product creation:

1. Build a high priced information product.

It's almost as hard to sell a $197 product as a $1,000 product. In some cases the $1,000 product will have a higher response than the same product priced at $197.

Higher perceived value.

It's easy to make a good profit when your information products are priced higher.

It's also easier to give good follow up service.


2. Think of every information product you produce as a lead generator.

You might have a free report, video or audio that generates leads for your...
$47 ebook or audio that generates leads for your...
$97 to $197 audio program with workbook which generates leads for your...
$497 to $997 full program with consultation which generates leads for your...
$1,497 to $2,497 seminar or workshop which generates leads for your...
$2,997 to $5,997+ mentoring program.


You may not feel comfortable yet creating all those products but it's
simple enough to start by making sure you have a free product, a $20
product and a $99 product.

And focus your effort heavily in one niche that's actually working for
you and pile all your blogging and product creation and article submission
joint venture creation efforts there.

Kindest regards,
Andrew Cavanagh

OP don't be too set in your ways to ask for help..

GET A COACH!!!

They are expensive but if you get a good one they can change your life.. You are looking at up to $500 for a coach.. Research them all carefully.

Pretty much you just need to take Will R's advice and concentrate on list building for the next 6 months.

Post the link to your Kindle book here. I will tell you what you are doing wrong! With Kindle publishing you can easily make $500 to $1000 per month if you are creating some genuine value.

It sounds to me as if you're working harder instead of smarter.

What do you actually do during those 10+ hour days?

If you're just set on looking up money-making strategies, you'll be in the forums all day, spending money without anything to show for it. So here's what I recommend:

Take the goal you want to reach, say, $100 a day, or even $50 a day starting out. Write that down on a sheet of paper.
Now work backwards from there to get to where you are right now.

Ask yourself ' what do I need to do to make that?" Of course, you can break it down into broad things to start with, like
- Traffic
-Conversions
- Quality content
- A great offer.

Then break those down into smaller steps. What does it take to get traffic? Look at guest posting opportunities in your niche, advertising on relevant sites, boosting your organic SEO, reaching out to partners in your industry and looking for ways that you can both work together toward a common goal.

I hope this helps!

To be honest, I don't want everyone to know what my blogs and ebooks are. I am in a semi-big niche and don't need more competition.

@Greedy
I currently have 3-4 sites running. But I am only focusing on 2 of them right now. Plus I also had around 15 sniper type sites selling things from Clickbank and Amazon. But I dumped those because I was not making anything with them.

I will take some of your advice and really focus on my list building. I thought I had been but apparently not. After all, I only have 20 people subscribed to it.

Hi hotpr,

When i first started working online, I tried every angle I could to earn money, the problem was that i didn't focus on just one aspect of working online. Instead i was running around like a headless chicken trying everything.

The turning point for me was when i started to concentrate on just one skill, web design. You see, if you specialize in one area you tend to get better results. And because web design is quite a large area in itself i also leaned towards PHP development which is even more of a specialty.

So my advice to you is take some time out, put the other work to one side and think about what side of it you are best at and focus on making that side of your business work.

The great thing is even though you may feel like it's two years wasted - it definitely is not, why? because you have two years experience, which is a lot more than a lot of people have in this line of work.

Good luck

The turning point for me as an affiliate was 2 things:

1. I found a great offer that sold. The key here was I used the product, loved the product and new a lot about the niche in which the product was sold. I ended up writing 100 articles that had something to do with the article. I started making four-figures a month from just that product.

2. I focused on that one product in that one niche for 6 months.

Once I reached that stage, I chose other products to focus on very carefully. I'd test many products to find the gold. Once I found something that was good, I liked using and sold, I promoted it like crazy with content, my blog and more recently, my email marketing campaigns.

It only takes one site and one product to earn decent money. Once you figure out how to make the money, scale up by carefully selecting the next promotion, either in the same niche or a new niche.

A Penny Saved is a Penny Earned.
Don't always buy the next big Guru Gimmick.

Open your mind to new online earning possibilities.

What kind of buyer intent are you targeting?
How will you generate traffic?
Are you giving people what they want?

You would be miles ahead if you allowed people to critique your site.

This has probably been said before, but I'll say it here again: it seems like your problem is that you're spreading yourself too thin. Focus your efforts on ONE website, ONE product, and ONE promotional method. You'll likely get far better results, and in the long-run, you'll also get the consistent results that you're looking for.

Everything here so far has given you great advice so far. The general consensus that everyone here seems to be saying is to focus on ONE method, ONE website, and ONE product. If you can manage to successfully do that, you will begin seeing some success.

First of all, if you love what you do , don't give up. You sound like you are doing all the right things, just can't break the barrier to consistency. The fact that you have only got 30 people on to your list in 2 years suggest that you are not targeting the right market with what you have on offer or what you are offering has no real value?

What strategies are you using to build your list? What is your niche? What is your USP? What makes you stand out?

One small tweak can change everything!! Hang in there.

Beth

It could be lack of creativity. Real success online goes to those who can actually write pages and program. You should have spent hose years studying design and development. Don't give up though!!!! Like any entrepreneur, learn from your mistakes.


Don't write crap, don't spin anything, make everything original, develop campaigns, be creative, be yourself, the web is for expression those who try and turn it out and try to squeeze money out of it, will get their money squeezed out of them.

What do you think all of those panda updates were for, to eliminate the crap that people put online just to try and make a quick buck.

Making money is always about adaptability. So is survival.

If you don't see some type of significant improvement in 1 week (nevermind 2 years) that means you have to change what you are doing. If 1 month passes by, you have to change what you're doing dramatically.

That doesn't mean you start from scratch. It means you get better at research and application. If you are failing at something, well then, you just lack the skills to succeed. So research and apply untill you develop those skills. Its honestly not difficult and I'm not sure how people don't succeed for 2 years straight.

I view it like this:

You're on a boat fishing. You're not catching any fish. So you change your fishing pole, you change your lure, you still don't catch anything. You change your bait, no fish come. You change your clothes, even that doesn't work. For 2 years straight you sit there with your pole in the water, wondering why you're not catching fish.

Then you decide to move the boat, and you catch 10,000 tuna.

But seriously, thats how I kind of view marketing. Its about making as many little changes as fast as possible, measuring results, and improving on things that show significant changes in data. The cool thing about marketing, you can actually see whats under the water. When fish don't bite, its pretty simple to figure out what you need to do.

Some people say its an art, I think its much more of a science. There's nothing mysterious about it. Research > apply > test/track results > refine > apply > test/track results over and over. Find people who need something, then give them what they need. I hate to make it sound so simple, but there really isn't much more to it than that.

-Red

In my opinion, internet affiliate marketing is more of an art than a science. Its easy for a few, a few more pick it up over time and I believe a huge majority make little to know money at all. Its not as easy as do "A" and results will be "B".

Nothing's for nothing, my friend. Do what your heart says every day and choose what you want your life to look like each moment, and you'll be too busy enjoying the journey to worry about how much, if any, money you've made. :-)

"internet business crap work" Now that's the first thing that came as a shock. You seem to have a negative attitude towards your internet business. Think positively would be a start.

"I have done "sniper" type sites a couple of blogs (which I still run), Kindle ebook writing (which I still do) and even some other online stuff." The next is FOCUS FOCUS FOCUS! From that, you seem to be chasing money instead of focussing on one thing and getting that to make money.

It's actually not as hard as it seems - It's a case of build a website that solves a problem/helps people, get traffic to that site and then monetize.

With all my sites, I monetize by building a list and then I sell them my products and others products.

Good luck!

You get 40 or 50 a day to your sites and wonder why you haven't made thousands. You need to concentrate on building your traffic. You've either picked a very competitive niche or haven't been very clever with your time. 10 hours a day is a lot of time to spend over two years and have only $1000 to show for it. But who knows, sometimes 2 years is the point where sites can start taking off as far as search rankings are concerned. Its usually lot sooner but sometimes some sites can take time.

I would say here out of all the advice listen to WillR (he has many great products and is an ethical marketer not constantly pushing Aff links 24/7) .................. he knows his stuff, and now matter how cliche maybe spelt wrong! it sounds the money ultimately is in the list......what you do when you get that valuable asset is what makes the difference to making a quick buck or a long term income, but the book stops here......listbuilding....... we all know it and we all think it is difficult, but once you take the time to build it then the rewards pay for themself....... I truly wish you all the best

So many people go through this. My best advice would be to look back on what you've done that made you that money and do more of that. Stop buying WSO's and trying new methods or tactics, just focus on what already worked for you.

Hey there. If you are looking for something to do to make money I have an offer/idea for you. I have hundreds of niche pages on facebook, they grow on their own and have thousands of fans in each. they cover all sorts of topics. I had a thriving Fiverr business at one point getting 60 - 100 orders a day, I moved and have since started a cosmetics business which is what pays the bills now but more importantly it takes all the time i do and don't have lol. I really want to utilize these pages as they have just been sitting there gathering members and member content (mostly spammers trying to sell affiliate ebooks) but never the less all are very active with lots of posts and interactions each day. All I did was create a bunch of fiverr account to post a gig for each one. Along the lines of "i will make an update, add your site link to the website or description section, favorite your page with ours etc." Like i say i dont have ANY time for doing that or listing everything. you dont get to 60 - 100 orders a day over night but it only took me just three months to get high up in the rankings and get tons of orders every day. that was back 2 years ago when they did not have gig extras that allowed you to offer services for more than $5. so now i could imagine it getting huge, maybe $1000 day after its fully established 6 - 12 months down the line ( had enough services to offer 2500+ gigs but you can only have 20 per account if thats still the same so it is a lot of work getting emails/accounts up and running with 20 gigs each). I dont have time to do this but i'm not going to give access to all this for free either. i would be more than happy to go 50% if you do the posting and take care of it. if it becomes a lot of money i'm happy to take that percentage down too. i dont want to use anyone, i just want to use and get some money out of a bunch of assets I have lying around. I just joined this site today so not even sure if you can send messages or if you can message me, if its like other forums then i guess not. (Yes I should have joined a long time ago) no time yet again

NONE OF YOU ARE SATISFYING THE DESPERATION EVEN THOSE THAT SAY "I FEEL YOUR PAIN"

In a situation like this, what is needed is urgent money to pay off pilling bills and debt. if you can't give a comment that will provide that money in 7 days then your comment will not be of any help.

I am not making any money online and i know what being desperate means.

The easiest and fastest way from my research is affiliate marketing. a product like ipad or any hot seller, buy targeted traffic and make some money to pay your bills first and then decide to pay for a coach to make your income regular. After this, you can start your adventure into online business in a broader and more informed way.

This is exactly what i am going to do because i am tired of all the questions of "did you do this?" and "did you do that?" even though they are asked with good intentions. So far , i haven't seen the post author say thank you, i am now making a consistent income.

If you are really really desperate simply think of marketing process, service or offer. Basically something very very basic. Then write a pdf that explains this! Example; how to upload a Youtube video. Don't say that though go with something like "Killer Video System Smasher" make your sales page. Use small print or very unobtrusive out-statment that there are not warranties, quantities, or refunds. However, state boldly that you will stand behind this for...Say, 60-90 days. Make your price low about $3.95 to $9.95. Remember every cent over $3.95 will decrease sales. However, you can create a Video of exact same process for your OTO and that can be drastically increased in price up to anything under $99. Those seem to sell at the same rate no-matter what the price is up to there. After first sale you will have some good reviews and some cash. Join the war room and repeat the exact same system. This time you shall have several supportive members to hype your product and increase sales.

Have you considered investing in a mentor/coach? It is a start up cost but with the right tutor, you will reach the end game much sooner and with your sanity in tact.

I hate to say this but you are obviously a busy fool...and I don't mean that In an insulting way. You are putting your efforts in the wrong place. Don't spend another single penny until you understand the process of setting up a website and setting up a hosting package.enough of this SBI shite. Your money should be ploughed into marketing rather than design and hosting, its just ridiculous that its taken two years to realise you aren't going down the right path.

Have you ever thought about offline advertising?
like making flyers and cards that say things like
"Ever thought you could be making ..."
then put your blog email address and url on the flyer and post around
your city ex. your local post office

and make sure you can capture their email address some where easily seen
on your website you are directing them to.

you can probably outsource this task too.

You could be in IM for a decade and still make no money if you simply work to get traffic but have no good campaigns to offer to your audience. You also need to make sure you get enough of your traffic to submit their emails so you can start building a good database of potential costumers for your products.

All about picking a profitable niche - building your email list - then delivering high valued information on a weekly basis.

After you do those 3 keys things, you simply promote affiliate products of high value.

The people that don't succeed are the ones or A) take no action B) Jump form one system to the next C) fall for every get rich scheme they see.

I think your issue and that of many people is 2 fold, lack of planning, and consistency. An online business is just like any business, you need a detailed plan of action. Without this you will fail. Dont just jump on the latest 'buzz' and hope you can make some cash. Choose a method, plan it out, set realistic goals and deadlines and follow through. Adjust your plan as you go of course but you should have a road map before you even start. For example: what are you going to be doing 30 days from now with your business? You should know, because you should be planning at least that far ahead.

I think you need to pick one thing and focus.

This.

In regards to the OP, you need to learn about online marketing and never give up. I don't know everything there is to know about marketing for sure but I'm trying to learn. It takes time but there's really ample resources out there now.

Hey man,

there's a simple solution to your problem.

Stop trying to do everyting at once. Pick one strategy and stick with it until you've mastered it.

If you want to make it selling kindle books. Do this and don't stop until you're making money. Period.

Your problem is so common in internet marketing.

One more thing. Pick the easiest strategy. Don't go for some crazy complex method. Most people make money online by doing the basics.

Good luck man

I totally feel your pain, I think we have all been there. Start building a blog and creating content in it. Provide valuable information and begin building relationships. At the same time build your email list.

I wish I would've built my email list from the get go. I waited s long to begin doing. Focus on getting traffic to your squeeze page to keep building your list.

I think "coaching is going to be the next "ruined" online business.

sure..learn to game G for a year or so as they evolve and slap you re-learn it all from fresh. 6 yeas on guess where you'll be?

Seems like you are spreading your efforts WAY too thin. If you would have picked just ONE method and focused on that, you would be far ahead of where you are now.

Although it may feel so frustrating knowing that 2 years have gone by, you need to let go of those emotions and simply get back to work. You have gotten PLENTY of positive and productive advice.

KateD

You have to, have to, have to build something that will be residual.

If you continue to be stuck building a business around one-time commissions where you have to put in hours every time to make a commission, you aren't thinking long-term. The best approach is always to work hard upfront, then maintain, then multiply.

In order for that to work, you have to have the right system/methods in place. I would venture to guess that you did not go through the right kind of training (1) or you didn't consistently implement the right kind of training (2).

Success online is not out of reach. Keep going forward and plug into something that works, following someone who's seeing results. There are many people out there like me fully willing to help others get started for free. But you have to take action and be committed.

Sorry to hear about your situation. If it's any consolation, you're far from alone. If your writing skills are good, you could offer those services; there's always a market for good writers and you could probably make a few hundred dollars per month part-time while you get your IM efforts on track.

You could also consider paidforumposting
http://www.warriorforum.com/wanted-m...ow-hiring.html

Also you might have a look at this thread for other ideas
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...desperate.html