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I am a bit stumped. I have been writing high quality posts for my blog (HealthyChoicesInLife.com) for the past 9 months, have researched long tail keywords that have low competition, and building my posts around them - ensuring they are in the titles, h1 tags, and at a decent density throughout the post (500-900 words in length). Since the site is a wordpress site, I always include keywords, summary, and titles in the appropriate section, and use a SiteMap plugin to immediately send to the Google, Bing, and Yahoo.

I then build backlinks (using fiverr High PR links gigs only) and also submit posts to article directories such as Ezine Articles and Articlesbase.

However, when I checked my ranking for some of the lower competition keywords (ones with less than 200 sites - using MicroNicheFinder) I am not even in the top ten pages from search results! And some of these posts have been out since July so they aren't super new.

Am I missing something obvious here? Are there other things I should be doing for each of my posts, or to help boost SE placement? Please help. I'm at a loss and getting a bit frustrated from my hours of work daily to see very little traffic trickle into my site which now has over 100+ pages/posts.
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  • Profile picture of the author joseph7384
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    The type of backlinks you are getting could be the problem.

    The other thing you need to understand is that SEO is no guarantee of any ranking. There could well be 10 pages full of other people who are doing exactly the same thing as you and have sites that are older than you. So you can't just expect to be on the first few pages, if everyone did then how could that possibly work?

    Keep at it but if you are buying your links then that's probably what has screwed you. Anything that seems too good to be true always is and may have undone all your hard work.

    Google aren't stupid -- unfortunately.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sue McDonald
    This is why Google penalized a lot of site. Their bank links were not relevant to their content. The links must be relevant and I doubt if Fiverr would care what links they gave you.
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    You should start using Google's disavow tool asap.
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  • Profile picture of the author Malcolm Thomas
    Yeah buying those cheap spammy backlinks from fiverr was probably what caused your site to get penalized. I would just continue to focus on writing unique high quality content and focus on getting traffic from other places besides Google.
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    Instead of fiverr seo links, I suggest you build links using real guest post methods.
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  • Profile picture of the author jimvol
    Google has pretty much blacklisted your site if you use spamvertising techniques to build your backlinks. (possibly against your hosting providers TOS too)

    chalk it up to experience and try again
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    • Profile picture of the author ditryin
      Thanks for the tips and advice.... I thought that by going for just high PR links I wouldn't be penalized but I guess not. :-(

      Aside from building links, is there anything I should check in my Wordpress Dashboard to make sure it is present or a PLugin I should make sure to use that helps with ranking pages/sites better?
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      • Profile picture of the author higherluv
        1. Regarding your onsite factors that you mention above, that's a good start - but it's hardly even a good part of the picture.

        Just relying on this and backlink building is no guarantee by itself to build your site

        How the visitors peruse your site (eg., any videos? engaging content?) also factor in.

        2. Relying on backlinks that come like this:

        Originally Posted by ditryin View Post


        I then build backlinks (using fiverr High PR links gigs only)
        ...
        Are probably gonna put you in a worse position than what you started with.

        3. Article marketing does not produce the same punch as it did 5-8 years ago. You can still get some clicks and tbh per capita you'll get more sales per click (due to I think the Panda update), but still the traffic is very low. And the backlinks coming EZA and other article directories still won't be a guarantee to boost your site.

        4. This SEO thing (plug-in or not) to boost traffic is probably not a smart basket to put all your eggs in. What other traffic methods have you tried? Are you even building a list?? VERY important.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by ditryin View Post

        I thought that by going for just high PR links I wouldn't be penalized but I guess not.
        Indeed.

        What matters with backlinks (not only from the perspective of avoiding penalties, but from that of getting some benefit from them, too!) is primarily the relevance to your own page linked-to of the site (not just the page!) on which they appear. However, I suspect that (perhaps especially in health niches) depending on SEO traffic will be a "second-best plan" for a business anyway. Google traffic may well be rather precarious and sub-optimal traffic for you.

        It sounds from what you say that you've perhaps been trying some article directory marketing, too? This thread may help you? http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5068872
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  • Profile picture of the author MrDay
    Checked out your blog and everything looked good....

    So it's gotta be your backlinks.

    Fiverr backlinks are fine if you are doing it the right way.

    Keyword diversity is key, don't just be building backlinks with only your main keywords as your anchor text.

    Main keywords ratio shouldn't be anymore than 10% - 20%. Then Mix it up with regular words like click here, read more and etc...

    good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author drewfioravanti
    Also, please remember that the number of monthly searches does not necessarily determine how competetive that keyword actually is. You need to do more in-depth keyword research to determine that.

    So, you 200 searches per month keyword may actually be very competetive.
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    • Here's the kind of links you bought for your $5:

      What Home Your Rabbit Needs | MSC General

      It's a crap autoblog with spun content and spammed-to-death comments, including yours.

      You should never place (or buy) any links that don't contribute to making the web a better place. This stuff is just garbage. That's what Google is telling you.

      You've also got to be careful about believing what Fiverr backlink sellers tell you about PR. Many times it is faked or they actually put the link on a page that is PR 0.

      Research the Disavow Links tool carefully before you use it. I've heard there may be some problems.

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  • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
    Don't wait for Google to decide to deliver your traffic (or not as is the case) think of alternative ways to get it. By getting your content in front of your target audience via guest posts on relevant blogs, videos on YT, banner ads on relevant sites, PPC, email marketing, forum posting, reddit, social media etc etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author ditryin
    Thanks everyone for the advice...

    Alexa: Yes I do submit my articles to some of the higher quality article directories like EZ, ArticlesBase, ArticleSnatch, and ArticleRich and include two links in my bio directed to different pages I'm trying to build links for. I've read mixed reviews on submitting articles to a ton of low quality article directories but I will definitely read through that link you posted.

    Drew: I use a program called MicroNicheFinder and search for "exact phrase", and from the searches per month list, I check the "Strength of Competition" and that's where I was getting the long tail keyword terms to focus certain articles on. So for instance, one of the terms I focused on was searched 22,000 times in a month, and the stength of competition was 320 which is relatively low when compared with other popular terms.

    Fluff: When I first used fiverr I did go for the "2,000 links..." gigs but quickly realized how wrong they were especially when my site started getting spam posts. I switched to this other who offers "20 High PR links" and I get links like this one flickr.com/people/345345_how_to_reduce_weight/ .... So these types of links are not helpful to build backlinks to inner pages of my site?

    RockingLasts: I have posted a few articles on other blogs (I need to do this better) but it's tough cause most want unique posts and exclusive for their site. I'm on Twitter, Google+, YouTube, and Facebook, but they are still developing... Just started a FB campaign for $5 per day to get "Likes" (they claim 4-30 new likes per day - I'm up 198 for 5 days).. I always post on the social sites just listed every post I make on my site.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by ditryin View Post

      Alexa: Yes I do submit my articles to some of the higher quality article directories like EZ, ArticlesBase, ArticleSnatch, and ArticleRich and include two links in my bio directed to different pages I'm trying to build links for. I've read mixed reviews on submitting articles to a ton of low quality article directories
      There's no real gain from submitting to more than one article directory (or at the most, two!). Don't imagine that their backlinks will help you at all. That isn't how article directories work.

      At the moment, you're trying to use article directories for a purpose they're unable to fulfil.

      Originally Posted by ditryin View Post

      I will definitely read through that link you posted.
      It'll help you do that before you submit another article to another article directory.

      Originally Posted by ditryin View Post

      I switched to this other who offers "20 High PR links" and I get links like this one flickr.com/people/345345_how_to_reduce_weight/ .... So these types of links are not helpful to build backlinks to inner pages of my site?
      No; they're not, and you need to stop doing that before your site gets heavily penalized by Google for doing it: http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...d-tactics.html

      Websites don't "have page ranks".

      Only pages have page ranks.

      What you see advertised on Fiverr (and unfortunately in the Warrior Forum as well) as "links from PR-6 sites" are very often links from PR-0 pages on sites whose own home page happens to be PR-6. That's no use to you if your link isn't ON their own home page.

      Next time someone mentions a "link from a PR-6 site" tell them that there's no such thing as "a PR-6 site" because websites don't have page ranks.

      In any case, the linkjuice you get from a backlink is determined mostly by the relevance, not by the page rank. So the whole subject of page ranks really has only a fraction of the importance widely but these days mistakenly attributed to it. http://www.warriorforum.com/off-topi...ar-2013-a.html

      To summarize briefly: much of what you're currently doing can't benefit your site, but can cause you problems.
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    • Profile picture of the author AlexCN
      Originally Posted by ditryin View Post

      Thanks everyone for the advice...

      Just started a FB campaign for $5 per day to get "Likes" (they claim 4-30 new likes per day - I'm up 198 for 5 days).. I always post on the social sites just listed every post I make on my site.
      So you have been blacklisted for spam backlinks, and now, in order to try and reverse that, you are buying FB likes? :confused:

      P.S. Some well aged, killer sites with tons of traffic and lots of Google trust don't even have 198 likes. With your sites history of spam backlinks, do you really think Google is fooled into thinking you got 198 real likes in 5 days?

      FWIW - YES... Google sandboxes sites for fake/bought social presences as well!
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  • Profile picture of the author MartinPlatt
    Originally Posted by ditryin View Post

    I am a bit stumped. I have been writing high quality posts for my blog (HealthyChoicesInLife.com) for the past 9 months, have researched long tail keywords that have low competition, and building my posts around them - ensuring they are in the titles, h1 tags, and at a decent density throughout the post (500-900 words in length). Since the site is a wordpress site, I always include keywords, summary, and titles in the appropriate section, and use a SiteMap plugin to immediately send to the Google, Bing, and Yahoo.

    I then build backlinks (using fiverr High PR links gigs only) and also submit posts to article directories such as Ezine Articles and Articlesbase.

    However, when I checked my ranking for some of the lower competition keywords (ones with less than 200 sites - using MicroNicheFinder) I am not even in the top ten pages from search results! And some of these posts have been out since July so they aren't super new.

    Am I missing something obvious here? Are there other things I should be doing for each of my posts, or to help boost SE placement? Please help. I'm at a loss and getting a bit frustrated from my hours of work daily to see very little traffic trickle into my site which now has over 100+ pages/posts.
    Fiverr can get you some pretty trashy backlinks, so you'd not want to point those directly to your site, otherwise it could get a penalty.

    Where there is such low competition, I think I'd just make sure onsite seo is good, and the content is quality, and ping them on social media sites. That should at least get you showing up.
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  • Profile picture of the author kelvintoro
    You ordered high PR backlinks, but are those links related to your niche? You have a good site. Your articles are good. Don't wast all the time and effort you spent on building your site by getting poor quality backlinks.
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    • Profile picture of the author neilshearing
      If you wrote great content for nine months, you still have a valuable asset. Don't give up.

      If your backlink profile is currently dragging your rankings down, out-grow the bad backlink profile by getting high quality links, adding more great content regularly, inter-linking your pages where appropriate and linking out to authority sites.

      Eventually, those few Fiverr gig links will be a drop in the ocean and your rankings will come back.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
    RockingLasts: I have posted a few articles on other blogs (I need to do this better) but it's tough cause most want unique posts and exclusive for their site. I'm on Twitter, Google+, YouTube, and Facebook, but they are still developing... Just started a FB campaign for $5 per day to get "Likes" (they claim 4-30 new likes per day - I'm up 198 for 5 days).. I always post on the social sites just listed every post I make on my site.
    Posting your articles to your social networks isn't enough. You need to find out where your target audience already are, what forums and blogs they visit and so on, and get your content / adverts in front of them. Talk to them directly, don't just post your content to your site and social networks and expect them to find you. Get networking with the other people in your niche as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author ditryin
    Ok. So consensus semms like I really need to sop doing the fiverr backlinks gigs and do this on my own. So aside from posting regular high quality content on my site, the best recommendation is to get involved with forums/blogs that are related to my niche?

    I'm still a bit unsure of what or how to get high quality backlinks to various inner pages of my site though. How can I properly increase their SE ranking in an effective and non-penalizing manner?
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by ditryin View Post

      Ok. So consensus semms like I really need to sop doing the fiverr backlinks gigs
      That's for sure.

      Originally Posted by ditryin View Post

      So aside from posting regular high quality content on my site, the best recommendation is to get involved with forums/blogs that are related to my niche?
      I don't know enough about your business and your skills to know whether it's "the best recommendation" (and maybe nobody else who's posted knows that, either?), but it's certainly one good recommendation, anyway. These are both things I do myself, and I benefit from both of them, but I wouldn't think it's a complete traffic-generation plan, on its own.

      Originally Posted by ditryin View Post

      I'm still a bit unsure of what or how to get high quality backlinks to various inner pages of my site though. How can I properly increase their SE ranking in an effective and non-penalizing manner?
      Why are you thinking of everything in terms of backlinks and rankings?

      I'm not making comments in relevant forums or on relevant blogs primarily as a way of getting backlinks at all. I admit I do benefit a little from those backlinks, because they're links from relevant sites (which Google, of course, "likes"), but all you can ever get from off-page SEO is search-engine traffic, and that's no way to build a business, is it? Personally, I'd advise you not to put too much of your time and effort into trying to attract SEO traffic, for two main reasons: first, it's very precarious, makes your business Google-dependent, and any business that's Google-dependent is no more than one algorithm-change away from a potential accident (or even a potential disaster), as so many Warriors have been finding out over the last year or two, some of them to their very great cost; secondly, for me, search engine traffic has been uniformly the worst-converting traffic out of everything I've ever tried - search engine visitors to all my websites typically stay the least time, view the fewest pages, opt in the least often and actually buy anything by far the least often. I admit I do get tons of search engine traffic to all my main sites (because high rankings happen to be a minor side-benefit of the major targeted traffic-generation method I use) but I'd hate to have to make a living just from that traffic.

      Think more about what RockingLastsForever wisely said, just above ...
      Posting your articles to your social networks isn't enough. You need to find out where your target audience already are, what forums and blogs they visit and so on, and get your content / adverts in front of them. Talk to them directly, don't just post your content to your site and social networks and expect them to find you.
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  • Profile picture of the author ditryin
    I've never posted in forums related to my niche before so I'm a bit unsure of how to go about doing this to maximize my response but in an appropriate manner. I've read comments from others that state they link to pages on their site through sigs attached to their posts. I've been doing a bit of searching and found some forums state that "no links are allowed in signatures/posts" so am I to assume that these forums are not of interest to me?
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    • Profile picture of the author vickybabe
      I would suggest checking this out:

      Why Your Backlinks SUCK – Creating The Perfect Backlink | Money Mindset

      I am in no way affiliated with these guys, but they really know their $#!T
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    • Profile picture of the author TerranceCharles
      I've had some of those fiverr back-links gigs cause me some major SEO problems. They always sound good, and quick - however it's mostly blackhat type methods they're using to blast your URL out to these article directories and social media bookmarking sites, using the same keywords over and over for other clients. The best way is always to build your back-links manually, it takes time - but it's long-term.

      However, don't too much concentrate on SEO traffic, it's too unpredictable. Instead concentrate on building your blog audience by engaging and building your blogging tribe by joining blog networks like blogengage, justretweet, famousbloggers.net etc. Social media is one of the best platforms for blogging, it's already made to be social and viral.

      Go where the bloggers already are active and sharing, the audience will be there too
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  • Profile picture of the author sabatek
    Originally Posted by ditryin View Post

    I am a bit stumped. I have been writing high quality posts for my blog (HealthyChoicesInLife.com) for the past 9 months, have researched long tail keywords that have low competition, and building my posts around them - ensuring they are in the titles, h1 tags, and at a decent density throughout the post (500-900 words in length). Since the site is a wordpress site, I always include keywords, summary, and titles in the appropriate section, and use a SiteMap plugin to immediately send to the Google, Bing, and Yahoo.

    I then build backlinks (using fiverr High PR links gigs only) and also submit posts to article directories such as Ezine Articles and Articlesbase.

    However, when I checked my ranking for some of the lower competition keywords (ones with less than 200 sites - using MicroNicheFinder) I am not even in the top ten pages from search results! And some of these posts have been out since July so they aren't super new.

    Am I missing something obvious here? Are there other things I should be doing for each of my posts, or to help boost SE placement? Please help. I'm at a loss and getting a bit frustrated from my hours of work daily to see very little traffic trickle into my site which now has over 100+ pages/posts.
    I have paid for back-links on fiverr and still reached top 3 on google. Sometimes I am in the #1 spot. Its because you need to buy link wheels, pyramids and or edu back-links. THEN you buy links for the links. Yes redundant but the links are not strong enough by themselves.

    The most quality back-links wins top spot.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zend
    Back-link building rule #1, never trust fiverr gig. Google will angry if you do a wild back link, spam is definitely a black hat method.
    here is the right way to do it:
    1. use SEOquake add-on, you can gain access to view page rank automatically, each time you search something in Google, or visiting website in general.
    2. find blog with more than 3 PR
    3. do the deed, give an interesting and unique comment, followed with your link.
    4. Rinse and Repeat the process. 5 times a day is enough.
    5. Profit.
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    • Profile picture of the author ditryin
      Zend: Thanks for the tips. I'm curious to know when you post responses to blogs and include the link you are "promoting" or backlinking, how do you go about doing this properly so not to upset the community? I've noticed on some forums they state that there are no links allowed even in your sig... are these ones that I want to avoid and just search for some that do allow links to be included?
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  • Profile picture of the author raheelmushtaq
    Building back links slowly and properly is the key these days if you go for automated back links on sites like fiver you're not gonna go anywhere
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