How to start on ClickBank?

11 years ago

Hi,

You can simply go to

Sell Products - ClickBank

and check out the options like vendor help, selling basics etc on the right hand side.

This way you will gte an understanding how much they charge per sale.

To search for a product, we go to advanced search.
Search Marketplace - ClickBank

You can type the keyword there and then

A product with a gravity of 30 to 70 is really good.

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konakid

11 years ago

On ClickBank it is easy to make an account and then check out the marketplace to see what is currently selling well. You can search by keyword or see products by category.

ClickBank uses a term called Gravity to rank how well each product is selling. They define gravity as:

"Number of distinct affiliates who earned a commission by referring a paying customer to the vendor's products. This is a weighted sum and not an actual total. For each affiliate paid in the last 8 weeks we add an amount between 0.1 and 1.0 to the total. The more recent the last referral, the higher the value added."

So products with high gravity have more people selling them. You can use this to gauge which products and niches are selling well. You can then try to make something similar.

Your product could be an ebook, video series, audio, or other digital media.

I'd suggest just getting started by making an account and exploring what is selling well and the sales pages those products use.

Good luck!

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Henry Chan 11 years ago

Hi Helder,

Firstly, you need to decide which path will you take. Become a vendor at ClickBank, or an affiliate?

I'm a newbie as well and I started my IM career as ClickBank affiliate..
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- Paul Hooper-Kelly 11 years ago
  
  Hi Helder,
  
  Henry Chan is right on the money: you need to decide if you want to be a vendor or affiliate.
  
  Of course what will decide it for you is if you have a product to sell as a vendor.
  
  Affiliates can join ClickBank for free, but vendors have to pay $50.
  
  Starting off as an affiliate is far the best course. Why? Because there are far more vital skills to learn right out of the gate than creating products.
  
  For example, whether you are selling your own product or someone else's as an affiliate, you must master traffic generation, which is the lifeblood of internet marketing.
  
  So the best course of action is as follows:
  
  Choose a market that is evergreen (weight loss, make money, hobbies etc ...) then decide on a niche within that market. For example if you choose sport, then you might go for the golf niche.
  
  Then build a list of folks interested in golf by creating a squeeze page where you give away a free book - for example: 'Six surefire tips to improve your golf swing'.
  
  Then, when you have folks on your list, nourish them with even more helpful tips.
  
  Meanwhile, select a ClickBank product and buy it. Buy it via your own affiliate link to keep the cost down.
  
  Then create a review (preferably using video) that will leave all the other affiliates, who merely scraped a few morsels off the vendor's website, wondering why you are making all the sales.
  
  Then, when you've built a relationship with the good folks on your list by sending them plenty of good free stuff, hit them with a promo email, sending them to your review web site.
  
  Meantime, get to work on your second review web site, following the same pattern.
  
  More free stuff for your list and then offer them your second review ... and so on until you have covered all the decent products in the golf niche (or whatever niche you chose).
  
  Warmest regards,
  
  Paul
  
  P.S. Take ClickBank's Gravity with a whole warehouse of salt.
  
  For reasons too complicated to cover here, this can be highly misleading. Do your own research and choose on the basis of a good sales page and (coming soon) ClickBank's new rating system, that takes account of the refund rate. That's very important now, because the refund rate of the products you offer as an affiliate will impact directly on your personal standing.
  
  Also, be very wary of promoting a product where the vendor has an opt in form on the sales page.
  
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  helderguzman 11 years ago
  
  Thanks for the answers,
  
  I want to become an affiate
  
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Alexa Smith

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by konakid

ClickBank uses a term called Gravity to rank how well each product is selling.

This is incorrect. That isn't what gravity measures - nor does it claim to be able to measure that.

Originally Posted by konakid

So products with high gravity have more people selling them.

No, that often isn't true. Some high-gravity products have no (or very few) affiliates promoting them (just many buying one copy each, through their own affiliate links - very common indeed, especially in IM/MMO niches!). You've actually quoted what ClickBank themselves say about gravity, but the conclusion you've drawn from it isn't right at all.

Originally Posted by konakid

You can use this to gauge which products and niches are selling well.

Not so much, I'm afraid! This is quite widely believed, but it isn't actually true - people just read it in rather ill-informed "guidebooks", and quite often they accept and believe it and then they end up repeating it, which helps nobody. For example, there are many products with single figure gravities steadily and consistently outselling products with three-figure gravities, and that isn't just an arbitrary coincidence: there are reasons for it. Some of them are explained in the following posts/threads. There's no correlation per se between gravity score and sales numbers. That just isn't what gravity measures ...

Gravity High or Lower - Which Sells Best & Why?
Clickbank gravity - is there a sweet-spot here?
Understanding Clickbank Gravity
Clickbank and gravity

Originally Posted by helderguzman

basically, how to start on Clickback affiliate programs?

Here are two posts which may help you, Helder.

This post explains "the three essentials of promoting ClickBank products as an affiliate", and might be a good starting-point for you: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7110523

And this one offers ten little "guidelines" for selecting products to promote as an affiliate (they've worked successfully for many people): http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post2161932

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Bisturi

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

This is incorrect. That isn't what gravity measures - nor does it claim to be able to measure that.

No, that often isn't true. Some high-gravity products have no (or very few) affiliates promoting them (just many buying one copy each, through their own affiliate links - very common indeed, especially in IM/MMO niches!). You've actually quoted what ClickBank themselves say about gravity, but the conclusion you've drawn from it isn't right at all.

Not so much, I'm afraid! This is quite widely believed, but it isn't actually true - people just read it in rather ill-informed "guidebooks", and quite often they accept and believe it and then they end up repeating it, which helps nobody. For example, there are many products with single figure gravities steadily and consistently outselling products with three-figure gravities, and that isn't just an arbitrary coincidence: there are reasons for it. Some of them are explained in the following posts/threads. There's no correlation per se between gravity score and sales numbers. That just isn't what gravity measures ...

Gravity High or Lower - Which Sells Best & Why?
Clickbank gravity - is there a sweet-spot here?
Understanding Clickbank Gravity
Clickbank and gravity

Here are two posts which may help you, Helder.

This post explains "the three essentials of promoting ClickBank products as an affiliate", and might be a good starting-point for you: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7110523

And this one offers ten little "guidelines" for selecting products to promote as an affiliate (they've worked successfully for many people): http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post2161932

Excellent reply by Alexa. My only question though is, is CB aware of the confusion people have of their gravity metric? Surely some great products are being miss by people associating gravity ranking with how successful is a product.

Is there any link where CB clarifies exactly what gravity entails and is the link/article visible in CB?

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Alexa Smith Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Bisturi

My only question though is, is CB aware of the confusion people have of their gravity metric?

I can tell you only (from my own experience) that some of their staff are aware of this. Some of them make the point (and it's a perfectly valid and correct one, to be honest) that they have actually explained, entirely openly and accurately, how "gravity" works, on their website, and that it isn't their responsibility that so many affiliates take their advice from misguided and ill-informed third-party sources.

Originally Posted by Bisturi

Surely some great products are being miss by people associating gravity ranking with how successful is a product.

This is unquestionably true.

I'm promoting about 30 of those "widely missed" products, myself.

Originally Posted by Bisturi

Is there any link where CB clarifies exactly what gravity entails and is the link/article visible in CB?

It's only one little paragraph, really, and it's on this page (very near the bottom of the page): Finding Products to Promote in the Marketplace

It's totally correct, needless to say, but it isn't all that helpful, really. It's fairly easy for people to draw the wrong conclusions from it (as happens here, every time the subject's discussed) but that's mostly not ClickBank's fault: it arises because people have read ill-informed "guidebooks" - some of which are WSO's, I'm sorry to say - which collectively give beginning marketers inaccurate and misguided information, much of which becomes part of the whole "urban myth culture" of internet marketing. As many people misunderstand "how gravity works" as the number of people who imagine that Ezine Articles publishes only unique content - that's also nonsense - and actually they misunderstand it for exactly the same reasons).
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RoyChan

11 years ago

Hi Helder,

Check out this tool: cbengine.com

Even the free tool is good for starters.

Cheers!

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ymest

11 years ago

I'll give you one piece of advice! Avoid any product that has an opt-in! You want people to opt-into your box not the product owner's! Plus, there is a risk--and I have unfortunately experienced it-- of getting your commissions syphoned off!!! So, anything that has an opt-in......stay away!

As for the rest, the question is really vague but I'd start with one topic and one product! I'd buy a domain, hosting and drive traffic to it! There are lots of threads on the WF about traffic generating methods! Just have a look around. Blog and forum commenting is really useful! So is article marketing, when done correctly! I am not too big on videos...not at all in fact! They do put me off and if you've never done one before, then I'd advise you to concentrate on other things first or hand it over to a professional!

As for gravity, Alexa's right! Especially about IM/MMO! But not only! I have promoted products that were totally unrelated to the IM/MMO niche and bought it to review, understand and know what was inside the product! It's the basic, actually and something that most internet marketers forget to mention! You want to sell something? Be an expert at it and start by buying the product!

Anyway, good luck with everything!

Yoan

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MilesBaker

11 years ago

Originally Posted by ymest

I'll give you one piece of advice! Avoid any product that has an opt-in! You want people to opt-into your box not the product owner's! Plus, there is a risk--and I have unfortunately experienced it-- of getting your commissions syphoned off!!! So, anything that has an opt-in......stay away!

I would totally disagree. Sign up for the opt-in and see what happens. Many GOOD vendors actually still pay the affiliate, some will even include your nickname in the links in the follow-up emails if they know what they're doing. So to just make a general rule to "stay away" because you see an opt-in isn't the best advice. You can also contact the vendor as ask them about it too.

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ymest

11 years ago

Originally Posted by MilesBaker

I would totally disagree. Sign up for the opt-in and see what happens. Many GOOD vendors actually still pay the affiliate, some will even include your nickname in the links in the follow-up emails if they know what they're doing. So to just make a general rule to "stay away" because you see an opt-in isn't the best advice. You can also contact the vendor as ask them about it too.

You can disagree but I did get ripped off and I know of others who got ripped off too, so it's a no no for me!

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Sarevok

11 years ago

It's my intention to summarize the broad spectrum of affiliate marketing as I know it in 50 words or less. (This is simply how I look at it).

1) You need to recognize a demographic that wants something or is especially prone to needing something

2) You need easy (and economical) access to that demographic

3) You need a method to effectively "deliver" a solution (A sales process)

To summarize:

1) Demographic Recognition (Who Are They?)
2) Are They Accessible? (Economically Feasible Access)
3) Sales Process (Solution Delivery)

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jbsmith

11 years ago

I have mainly led with my own products, affiliate products I promote are to my own list and thus are mainly adjacent, add-on or highly relevant to where my own leads/customers are in their process at a given time.

What I look for is...

1. Useful
2. Quality sales page that converts (based on a combination of my, other affiliates and what information I pull out of the site owner)
3. Often, my relationship with the site owner

This means I only have promoted a few products from CB over the last year, but I do well with them and my customers are happy.

My main piece of advice is that whatever market you decide to jump into - look at it as a business, build relationships, build a list, create a sales funnel and look at your prospects/customers as long-term customers rather than a path to a quick buck.

Jeff

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Alexa Smith Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by MilesBaker

Sign up for the opt-in and see what happens.

All that can tell you is what happened to you (if you really want to wait 60 days - the duration of a ClickBank cookie - to find out).

Not what happens to various different proportions of your potential customers (it's typically not the same for all of them, needless to say).

Originally Posted by MilesBaker

to just make a general rule to "stay away" because you see an opt-in isn't the best advice.

It's my advice.

It's also the advice of all the serious, professional, full-time affiliates I know.

There's a huge amount of mistaken thinking about this subject. The true issue doesn't relate to "whether or not the prospective customer should be opted in, if possible". That goes without saying. It's about by whom they should be opted in.

In this complicated but very worthwhile and interesting thread (to be read carefully and in its entirety!), a whole succession of people who are successfully making their livings as ClickBank affiliates explain in detail all their shared reasons for never promoting a ClickBank product with a vendor's opt-in on its sales page.

Many successful vendors make available (sometimes "on the quiet") an alternative version of their sales page, without their opt-in, because time and experience have taught them that they won't attract any serious, pro-affiliates without doing that.

Overall, this may be something that only 5% of affiliates care about and 95% don't. It's worth remembering that (as any highly successful "bulk vendor", not to mention ClickBank themselves, too, will confirm) 5% of the affiliates make 95% of the sales.

Originally Posted by MilesBaker

You can also contact the vendor as ask them about it too.

Indeed.

Recommended. (One wouldn't want to promote a product as an affiliate without contacting the vendor first, one way or another, anyway - right? ). And ask them for a copy of the sales page to be provided without the opt-in. And - if they really won't provide that for you - ask yourself why, and what they're really telling you about how they like to do business (it takes them almost no time and costs them almost nothing at all to provide it. I've only ever encountered two vendors who simply wouldn't do that, on request. They have everything to gain and nothing to lose from it, after all ).

In summary, it's like just about everything else in internet marketing: the mistakes are everywhere, just waiting to be made; people have to decide for themselves by whom they want to be guided - incentivized people making their livings by selling products/services targeted at people who want to do it, or unincentivized people making their livings by doing it themselves.
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wakey7

11 years ago

I've just started with Clickbank and RAPBank. I started by building a list of people interested in the evergreen make money niche. This was done using a squeeze page offering a free guide on traffic generation that I wrote. This then takes the user through a sales funnel which really helps to recoup any traffic costs (I use high quality solo ads to drie traffic to the squeeze page). Once they're in the list, it's all about having a structure to your email program and business relationships.

Remember, nobody likes spam. The first question I ask people when they join my list is 'how can I help you?'. I often have people respond and ill send them a personal response back where I can. I bud relationships and sell products based on what they tell me their problems are with making money.

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