A whole new ClickBank?

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ClickBank has updated their website... ClickBank

ClickBank is also offering some new solutions for vendors and affiliates which includes training as well as hosting your own Vendor/Blog website that integrates with ClickBank. The hosted/website part is called ClickBank Powered... Our Platform | ClickBank

Just curious as to what your feedback was on the new site? As well as the new ClickBank Powered?

To me it really seems that they're moving towards a model where they host the site for vendors instead of Vendors doing it on their own. If you look around as if you're a new vendor then you'll notice that the design takes you down the road of signing up for ClickBank Powered. Which could be good for new vendors who want that option.

I also noticed that you have to be signed in with ClickBank to see the ClickBank Marketplace.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chri5123
    Could see them moving this way. Before Premier status had to be earned but now it looks like you can buy all of the features. Not knocking it though, will be interesting to see how it takes off.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohsin Rasool
    Wow, it seems totally changed Clickbank site. I like new look and style, fully responsive design and fresh look. I really love it

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  • Profile picture of the author picalot
    Originally Posted by Chris Kent View Post

    I think it's a great idea. Many marketers find the technical aspects of web sites a major barrier to entry.

    This will also help Clickbank to become more mainstream and less associated with the wild west world of IM.

    I like how u said THE WILD WEST WORLD OF IM jaja that is so true..

    And for the new look on clickbank I gatta say it looks way cleaner and smother I like
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  • Profile picture of the author vilmosg
    I think the marketplace has got a better search engine. It was awful, but now it is much better.
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  • Profile picture of the author timber
    Still on the fence about the new Clickbank... since I usually use my Master account login to track all of the accounts from one place, but that portal now appears to be changed. Any ideas as to where it went? I'm still looking through their FAQ for it, but so far, no luck. -

    After speaking with Customer Support, I now have access to the Master Account again, problem was on my end after all...

    Nevermind...
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
      I don't see any significant change from the last update apart from the homepage?
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      • Profile picture of the author KenJ
        Looks much better. More professional and business like.

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        • Profile picture of the author MilesBaker
          There's actually a lot of changes once you dig in. ClickBank appears to be going into a whole new direction with their ClickBank Powered service.

          As a new visitor to ClickBank who has never been there before you wouldn't know you could be a vendor without using ClickBank Powered unless you dug around a LOT to finally see the option 'ClickBank DIY'. Even once you are presented with that option you are still encouraged to use ClickBank Powered unless you are according to ClickBank a "die-hard" do-it-yourselfer.

          So I really see ClickBank moving away from the current vendor model over to this new one.

          I also found it very hard to just find out where to become an affiliate for free. It seems many of the paths all take you to an opt-in form or a book for $27.

          In addition, I have to wonder why the products they are featuring are not their best looking or top sellers, but they're all very small niche books or products.

          I will be interested to see how the site changes over the coming weeks and months, and how much they continue to promote the ClickBank Powered service.
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          • Profile picture of the author SunilTanna
            Originally Posted by MilesBaker View Post

            So I really see ClickBank moving away from the current vendor model over to this new one.

            I also found it very hard to just find out where to become an affiliate for free. It seems many of the paths all take you to an opt-in form or a book for $27.
            That's exactly my point of concern.

            If they put too much emphasis on extracting money directly from affiliates and vendors, that could potentially detract from enabling affiliates and vendors from making as many sales (therefore as much money as possible) for both ClickBank and themselves.

            Or to put it another way, they Would they prefer to emphasize getting 1% or 2% of new affiliate members to buy a $27 book, or would they prefer to enable as many as possible of the new affiliates to get going free and quickly, and begin making sales.

            I realize these things aren't necessarily in conflict, but it's going to be a difficult balance to strike to make sure they continue not to conflict.
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            Originally Posted by MilesBaker View Post

            In addition, I have to wonder why the products they are featuring are not their best looking or top sellers, but they're all very small niche books or products.
            I love this angle. I think this appeals to people with the notion that "there is a book in everybody" (and not just ones about making money online or real estate investing, or how to get your ex back ). My guess is that Clickbank wants to tap into the knowledge of everyday people who have expertise, but may not be professional online marketers (yet). If I understand who Clickbank is trying to appeal to with this, I think it's going to end up adding a lot of good products to their marketplace.

            I like what Clickbank is doing and their site looks much more trustworthy than it's ever looked.
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      • Profile picture of the author CalinDan
        Originally Posted by Daniel Evans View Post

        I don't see any significant change from the last update apart from the homepage?
        I don't see that much of an improvement either.

        Maybe it's just me but a lot of great courses and programs on the topic "Clickbank" have become obsolete.

        Regards,
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve King
      Originally Posted by timber View Post

      Still on the fence about the new Clickbank... since I usually use my Master account login to track all of the accounts from one place, but that portal now appears to be changed. Any ideas as to where it went? I'm still looking through their FAQ for it, but so far, no luck. -

      After speaking with Customer Support, I now have access to the Master Account again, problem was on my end after all...

      Nevermind...
      Hi Timber,
      I have the same problem with my Master Account, what did they tell you?
      thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author michaelfreeman
    I am looking into creating an affiliation network with click bank. Good to know. I think click bank is probably the most reliable mediator between affiliates and product/service money sites. Very interesting. Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author SunilTanna
    It looks way better.

    A quick glance shows much more emphasis on offering services to their vendors. I haven't really looked at the site in any detail yet.

    This is probably a good thing, especially for smaller vendors - but will the most successful vendors (who probably make the bulk volume of ClickBank's business) really want a ClickBank-hosted solution? I'd imagine, part of the reason that they are successful because they have control & flexibility, and vendors would loathe to lose that.

    ClickBank need to walk a couple of tightropes here

    First they want to make sure they don't lose flexibility (hopefully they won't). A lot of the things that allowed ClickBank to grow were things that vendors and affiliates discovered and invented, and which ClickBank's system allowed. That "openness" for innovation needs to continue. Yes ClickBank are a multi-million $ company, but a 100,000+ affiliates, and 10,000+ vendors will always be able to come up with and test more innovative ideas than ClickBank themselves.

    Secondly, it is a good to offer services to vendors to enable the vendors to sell more (which helps both ClickBank and the vendor, because the transaction fees are ClickBank's bread and butter).... but ClickBank need to be careful about putting to much emphasis on getting extra money out vendors, as I don't imagine fees from vendors will ever be their main source of profit.

    I hope they get the balance right.
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  • Profile picture of the author SeoDemon
    Wow looks great, and very professional. I'm also thinking of trying hosted/website by them.
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    • Profile picture of the author mervp
      Yes, it LOOKS good and more professional, but is it delivering enough usability to be helping affiliates and vendors in a professional way? I notice 'Marketplace' has been replaced by 'featured products,' but now there is no search or filter feature to more quickly find products and quickly judge their value as a consumer or marketer.

      You can sign in to get this data, but what if you you want to make these decisions prior to signing up, as a newcomer? How come we still can't get a straightforward idea of the refund rates on products? To me, less access or disclosure = less professionalism, regardless of the prettier new template.
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      • Profile picture of the author SunilTanna
        Originally Posted by mervp View Post

        Yes, it LOOKS good and more professional, but is it delivering enough usability to be helping affiliates and vendors in a professional way? I notice 'Marketplace' has been replaced by 'featured products,' but now there is no search or filter feature to more quickly find products and quickly judge their value as a consumer or marketer.

        You can sign in to get this data, but what if you you want to make these decisions prior to signing up, as a newcomer? How come we still can't get a straightforward idea of the refund rates on products? To me, less access or disclosure = less professionalism, regardless of the prettier new template.
        Absolutely agree the marketplace should be publicly viewable without sign-in.
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  • Profile picture of the author Josh Monroe
    Man I hate the new layout, I much prefer the Old one.

    But then again I don't like change.
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  • I just bought it, I'm about to finish a new product so I'll upload it and test drive it.

    So far I see is a website DIY system, email lists system but I don't see how to put a domain for my product. I guess I'll just build it and see what URL it's on.

    Looks like product activation is now part of this system, you probably have to wait for it still like before.

    And also I see media upload so on the first look it might be that you can upload videos on their server. I'll have more in a day or two.
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  • Profile picture of the author Raydal
    I must admit I love the new look. Has a more corporate
    appearance which may mean more credibility?

    I'm looking for more deeper changes though than just
    website appearance, like less refund parties.

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    • Profile picture of the author MelanieandMiles
      Originally Posted by Raydal View Post

      I must admit I love the new look. Has a more corporate
      appearance which may mean more credibility?
      Absolutely! Much more credible look and feel now...

      Perception indeed creates reality and I think this makeover has been a long time coming for them with how much business they have transacted.

      The whole enchilada package makes sense... Lots of $ left on the table when new info marketers get overwhelmed, so they have rectified that.

      I really do miss the 'Marketplace' link on the home page w/o having to log in and feel that gives more exposure to our program.

      Going to go through the process of signing up as a new affiliate and see what that is like... Really want potential partners to know that it is indeed free to partner with our program in Clickbank and I hope they aren't over complicating that process for a book add on product.
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  • Profile picture of the author williamtan
    Big change indeed! I've actually got to double check the URL on my browser to ascertain I'm at the right ClickBank, LOL.

    The site now looks more professional and clean. But is unclear about the "direction" its heading to. Kindly worried when I see subscription plans.
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  • Profile picture of the author art72
    Pheeeewww... that was quite an undertaking, but I as an infopreneur 'in the works' - there is definitely some expansive marketing fixing to take place over at CB. I was pretty 'impressed'... and 'hopped up' (lol) going over the marketing platform... hell, I'd promote their high end product and gladly nibble on some recurring slices of that pie... it outta be quite fruitful.

    I think it's a win/win/win for vendors, affiliates, and CB. So long as the focus doesn't shift in an effort to ween the vendors from the affiliates, whereby CB takes the position to become less welcoming in allowing new affiliates to promote products. Obviously, the platform still relies heavily on its affiliate base, so I doubt we/they (*the affilliates) will suffer any sleep over CB's expansive vision for the future of info-marketing.

    At first read of the OP's post, I was a touch concerned if CB began doing all this in-house hosting, auto-responder, marketing breakdowns and evaluations...it could hurt the affiliates. But after reading a good deal of the info (and some aforethought), - I believe this platform will be pretty kick ass and make it easier for all parties to make money, with a greater emphasis on quality control, no doubt.

    I'm cool with that, and looking forward to seeing my sales increase exponentially as a result. Hell, I was almost impressed enough to buy their $27 - video serie and guides. I Still might... the sales page was purdy darn tight

    Time will tell...
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    It looks really good.... need to spend some time to learn the new things there....
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  • Profile picture of the author SunilTanna
    In other threads we read about people losing control of, or even all of, their sites because the sites are on squid or twitter's blogging system. How do people feel about click bank being both your host and your retailer?

    I've been with click bank for nearly 14 years, and do not anticipate going with another retailer or payment system, but I've always had the option to relatively easily do so if I wanted or needed to.
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  • Profile picture of the author vick2011
    I love how they're trying to sell their own product using their own system, haha.
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  • Profile picture of the author julesw
    Looks smart, interesting shift they are making into a subscription model. Also discovered I am on their featured products list!
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  • Profile picture of the author Zend
    Glad to know that there will be more newbie competitors in clickbank. Maybe this is the time where clickbank can compete with Amazon and other affiliate marketing site. I don't know what happen next but I am sure Amazon will start making a move sooner or later. I like the new interface on this new site, some words are too small for my 17" but I can still read it anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author KevL
    Yeah it's interesting - they seem to have gone all up market all of a sudden with design etc., - they seem to have improved in many areas; has anyone phoned them for support recently? I got an answer within a few seconds from a human being, who was incredibly nice, helpful & well trained & had my query answered in a very short time, in fact I don't remember ever being so impressed with a support call!
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    • Profile picture of the author tinknocker
      WOW! I'm impressed with the new look. I had given up on them because they seemed to be going in the wrong direction with all the confusing new way of dealing with affiliates. I am definitely going to be checking them out and hope they are moving in a more business/affiliate friendly direction.
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesColin
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    Hi, I've seen it too this morning when I loggued in clickbank that they now offer a monthly subscription to get blog hosting and email service (autoresponder and broadcast) for affiliates and even more for vendors:
    CLICKBANK POWERED AUDIENCE BUILDER AND PLATFORM ON FEBRUARY 2013

    I think it is a smart move, they are going to earn much more money by providing these services to their existing members and will change their perception. At least they have already in my mind by making that move, compared to just yesterday when I was still under the impression that they were not moving forward, just doing business as usual.

    Are you going to buy the subscription either for affiliates or vendors or are you just going to continue as before with your hosting and emailing?
    Personally I'm not going to move, but if I was new to all this, yes I would sign up for those integrated packages. At least the audience builder one as an affiliate. But now I'm already engaged/commited with websites and email service (aweber) and I don't feel like moving since I can do the things they offer for $27 a month. But yes it's tempting if it was just 6 months ago when I started more seriously in affiliate marketing, I could have taken it to ease the process.
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  • I found the first big problem, the videos can't be with them or Amazon s3 but has to be vimeo or youtube. I'm assuming it's going to have the control bar. Now sure how you can do a long video presentation like the regular optimize press sites, so this right now is starting to look like a big problem.

    But I can see they built a huge Cadillac and if you are just starting I think it could work , but I'm not sure if it's going to be the most optimal thing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Markus Mar
      Originally Posted by HelpingYouBeAnExpert View Post

      I found the first big problem, the videos can't be with them or Amazon s3 but has to be vimeo or youtube. I'm assuming it's going to have the control bar. Now sure how you can do a long video presentation like the regular optimize press sites, so this right now is starting to look like a big problem.

      But I can see they built a huge Cadillac and if you are just starting I think it could work , but I'm not sure if it's going to be the most optimal thing.
      Hello, could you please elaborate on what kind of videos can't be used with them?

      Is it the video sales letter?

      Thanks,

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      • Originally Posted by Markus Mar View Post

        Hello, could you please elaborate on what kind of videos can't be used with them?

        Is it the video sales letter?

        Thanks,

        Markus
        As far as I can see they want Youtube or Vimeo, I haven't figure out how to put like a custom player like I have plugins for wordpress.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Doesn't change the fact that 95% of the affiliates there have no idea what they're doing.
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    • Profile picture of the author GlenH
      Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

      Doesn't change the fact that 95% of the affiliates there have no idea what they're doing.
      Too true John..

      I'd say that about ever second or third affiliate that signs up through CB to sell my products end up emailing me saying...."ok...I've signed up...now what do I do?"

      I was just dumb-stuck when I got the first email like that, but now I'm getting so many more

      My god
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      • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
        Originally Posted by GlenH View Post

        Too true John..

        I'd say that about ever second or third affiliate that signs up through CB to sell my products end up emailing me saying...."ok...I've signed up...now what do I do?"

        I was just dumb-stuck when I got the first email like that, but now I'm getting so many more

        My god
        You're right Glen. Its ridiculous.

        Especially when you get hammered with useless traffic, and affiliates copying your stuff. Has anyone here actually considered the fact that affiliates might be HURTING you in the SERPS? (erm, Panda???)

        I'm in the process of getting out of there.

        Totally over it.
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        • Profile picture of the author MovingAround
          Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

          You're right Glen. Its ridiculous.

          Especially when you get hammered with useless traffic, and affiliates copying your stuff. Has anyone here actually considered the fact that affiliates might be HURTING you in the SERPS? (erm, Panda???)

          I'm in the process of getting out of there.

          Totally over it.
          John,

          Can I ask, how would you protect yourself from affiliates hurting you in SERPs or harming one's brand or ebook?

          I'm aware CB is full of sleazy affiliates though I'm surprised you'd want out of there considering it has the biggest affiliates in there (or so I've read).
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          • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
            Originally Posted by MovingAround View Post

            John,

            Can I ask, how would you protect yourself from affiliates hurting you in SERPs or harming one's brand or ebook?

            I'm aware CB is full of sleazy affiliates though I'm surprised you'd want out of there considering it has the biggest affiliates in there (or so I've read).
            Hi,

            Firstly, having the most affiliates doesn't mean it's somehow the "best".

            Secondly, in all honesty, I think the answer to your question depends heavily on what you're doing. If you're just in it to "churn n burn" and make as much money as possible, with no interest in establishing your brand within your industry, then this won't matter. Let affiliates run amok and blast crap everywhere and hope for the best.

            However, if you're trying to do the opposite - that is, building a real asset, an authority site that you're willing to put 10 years into, and you want to protect that, then you'll want to take an entirely different approach.

            Have a read of the suggestion that I made below.

            http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7787302
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            • Profile picture of the author gracetog
              Wow Clickbank! Couldn't believe my eyes - I thought it was the wrong site I was in. I thought someone had hi-jacked their site! Had to come into warrior forum to check what's going on after I tried again after a few days! Clickbank was no longer Clickbank!
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              • Profile picture of the author Theo Encarnado
                I can't figure out how to sign up as an affiliate on their new website. Can someone shed some light as to where and how to sign up as a new affiliate...
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                • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
                  Nothing has changed other than the requirement to be logged in to browse the Marketplace.

                  Login, find the product you want to promote, click "Promote", then "create" and you have your affiliate link.


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  • Profile picture of the author pjinter
    The new design is better and they finally got rid of the horrible sheep!
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  • Profile picture of the author pjinter
    The new look and feel of the "new" Clickbank is pretty awesome.

    I'm interested in their "ClickBank Powered Audience Builder and Platform" and I find that it lacks a lot in details. For instance, can we built multiple sites, how about domain name(s), follow-ups to list and incoming subscriptions among other clarifications.

    Does anyone know about existing videos or more elaborate specs?

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author MilesBaker
      Originally Posted by pjinter View Post

      The new look and feel of the "new" Clickbank is pretty awesome.

      I'm interested in their "ClickBank Powered Audience Builder and Platform" and I find that it lacks a lot in details. For instance, can we built multiple sites, how about domain name(s), follow-ups to list and incoming subscriptions among other clarifications.

      Does anyone know about existing videos or more elaborate specs?
      Yeah, the details are seriously lacking, I agree. I had a tour of the platform and it's very simplistic and basic. They will likely be adding more features and flexibility, but for now I would say it's for beginners who are only looking for the basics.
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  • Profile picture of the author djleon1
    I think the CB powered is a great idea. It is going to wipe out a lot of the IM products on there but that has been happening already with the color rating. A lot of those products are moving out of CB anyway.

    Hopefully it helps a lot of newcomers and saves them money in the long run.
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    CB powered - id wait a few months - major lack is customization - too cookie cutter
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    • Originally Posted by designgururyan View Post

      CB powered - id wait a few months - major lack is customization - too cookie cutter
      I agree I bought it and it's very very cookie cutter and un-flexible. I have decided not to use it.
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    Finally they dumped their childish design!
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    Will continue to focus on...
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    • Profile picture of the author KitschWitch
      I find the Help/Knowledgebase harder to navigate with the new design.
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    I purchased the 27.00 product, it is actually videos on a wordpress site they own. The vids were really good, they are worth the 27.00 plus you have the option to download a pdf version of the videos. I am seriously thinking about going with the powered service.
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