Yes, no matter what it is - it's dead...

Sure you were...

You don't need your account deleted in order to leave. Just don't visit the forum! I'm still a member of loads of forums that I no longer use.

As to being frustrated here. Is it because people don't always agree with you? That's pretty much how it is for everyone here. It's the same on every forum. No matter what you have to say, someone, somewhere will have an opposite point of view. That's just life!

But my friend, this is what you yourself are doing! You are seeing things in one angle. Your observation of what "gurus" are doing is just your interpretation. What are you a guru now to "know" what it is that they're doing?

Then they are just "gurus" of one thing only! They are not intelligent thinkers enough to know how to deal with a changing environment? This is what true entrepreneurs can do - adapt quickly and thrive!

So whatever is happening to the online world can only mimic the real one - and both need innovators who take changing situations and create new ways of building income and society. It may be getting tough for those who only copy others - to them I say "wait" and then copy the new leaders that will rise. Winners never quit!

What you see is repudiation to negative and defeatist mentalities. Champions overcome the negative. We are not victims of the online world - we are the shapers of the online world. So get out there and shape your success!

Who be your master? Who is running this online world? You are one in many who simply shape it. No matter what happens, computers and interaction will be until somebody from within or without shuts off the electronic faculty of this planet.

So I plan to profit from it and to reach out from it all I can possibly muster until I begin to look for nuts in the trees. IMHO.