Is it possible to ignore google

by theaccountant 81 replies
Are the enough volume going through other search engines to be able to effectively concentrate on non google search engine traffic?
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
    With the way Google has been acting towards IMer's it is very possible. I would still try and get Google traffic, but wouldn't spend too much time on it, the internet is way bigger than Google.
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    • Profile picture of the author +newportone
      Yes , Amen , the internet is bigger than Google.
      Thanks,
      Thank God too, Google would erase us all if it could.
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      • Profile picture of the author PatriciaS
        Originally Posted by +newportone View Post

        Yes , Amen , the internet is bigger than Google.
        Thanks,
        Thank God too, Google would erase us all if it could.

        Give Google time, just a little more time. :-(
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    • Profile picture of the author KevL
      Originally Posted by Alex Blades View Post

      With the way Google has been acting towards IMer's it is very possible. I would still try and get Google traffic, but wouldn't spend too much time on it, the internet is way bigger than Google.
      I'm not quite with you ref:
      With the way Google has been acting towards IMer's
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  • Profile picture of the author latestnewsheadline
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    You can ignore google, but in my opinion, it's not recommended.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
    Originally Posted by theaccountant View Post

    Are the enough volume going through other search engines to be able to effectively concentrate on non google search engine traffic?
    You can totally ignore Google but you're looking at it in the wrong way. Ignore all search engines and focus on building your traffic from alternative sources such as video, PPC, banner ads, list building, Q&A sites, social media, forums, guest posting and so on. Find out where your target audience is and get your content and advertisements in front of them.

    If you do this properly eventually you will rank in the search engines anyway.
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    • Profile picture of the author andyjbenson
      Originally Posted by RockingLastsForever View Post

      You can totally ignore Google but you're looking at it in the wrong way. Ignore all search engines and focus on building your traffic from alternative sources such as video, PPC, banner ads, list building, Q&A sites, social media, forums, guest posting and so on. Find out where your target audience is and get your content and advertisements in front of them.

      If you do this properly eventually you will rank in the search engines anyway.
      Totally agree! Yes it requires work but in the long run you will reap the rewards, and traffic will begin to flow to you rather than chasing it all the time! Plus you wont be at the mercy of Google's forever changing algorithms!
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    Google is not the only place out there to advertise your business.

    Even if they don't get your site on their first pages does not mean that you will fail online. It just means that you will have to learn the easy way or the hard way on how to drive traffic with other strategies.

    Too many people just rely on them for traffic which is BAD.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Gram
    Sure it's possible but why would you ignore such a large traffic source? The best strategy is to concentrate on other sources of traffic AND organic SEO.
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  • Profile picture of the author erwin78
    Hi everyone,

    google is google you cannot ignore it but don't depend on it. You must have other traffic sources.

    Have a nice day.

    Erwin.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
    You CAN ignore it and still be a huge success and drive huge volumes of traffic to your site. There are so many avenues for traffic out there that Google doesn't control. Obviously if you can then you'd want to rank in Google because it's an extra source of traffic for you but spending all your time focusing on something which you have very little control over isn't a wise move. Work on the other traffic sources first, wait till you've mastered them, then think about google.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
    Originally Posted by theaccountant View Post

    Are the enough volume going through other search engines to be able to effectively concentrate on non google search engine traffic?
    Yep. And there's more than enough volume going through other websites that have nothing to do with Google. Also the paid advertising inventory out there is staggering.

    Google is less than 5% of my overall traffic, so I mostly ignore them everyday. lol

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    • Profile picture of the author AlphaWarrior
      Originally Posted by Rod Cortez View Post

      Yep. And there's more than enough volume going through other websites that have nothing to do with Google. Also the paid advertising inventory out there is staggering.

      Google is less than 5% of my overall traffic, so I mostly ignore them everyday. lol

      RoD

      Where does the 95% come from?
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeTucker
    I hear Google doesn't even have drivers in those cars,
    so I don't want them in my traffic!! :p


    Jokes aside, I hate Google traffic, for me it was always
    a bunch of broke time-wasters, so the question was never
    "Can I get enough traffic without them" it was more
    "How can I stop them from finding me!!?"

    Here is what I finally learned:


    1. Block them with the robots.txt file; and/or
    2. Use a noindex metatag in the header:

    <meta name="googlebot" content="noindex">
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  • Profile picture of the author Evocess
    Yes, it is really possible to ignore Google. But I don't recommend ignoring Google.
    As we all know that Google is the biggest search engine and it doesn't need to be ignored.
    Lots of people are using Google so take it as an advantage for your business.
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  • Profile picture of the author IMSince2003
    There are many ways of creating income online without Google's help. Build a community and create a place online where your customers (readers/subscribers) want to be and you'll always succeed. Also, there's many people on this very forum (me included) who do super well with paid traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author rmolina88
    I haven't relied on google for almost a year.
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    • Profile picture of the author Julius Minor
      Originally Posted by rmolina88 View Post

      I haven't relied on google for almost a year.
      I second that!
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  • Profile picture of the author run
    Forum & Social Marketing are very targeted sources of income for me. Therefore, I would rely on Google or other Search Engine.
    But, why would you want to ignor Google? If you don't want to mess with it, just leave it alone, but you still need the proper SEO structures of the site.
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    • Profile picture of the author Julius Minor
      Originally Posted by run View Post

      Forum & Social Marketing are very targeted sources of income for me. Therefore, I would rely on Google or other Search Engine.
      But, why would you want to ignor Google? If you don't want to mess with it, just leave it alone, but you still need the proper SEO structures of the site.
      I do proper keyword research and on-page SEO out of "habit".. so I naturally get traffic from Google.. But I don't "rely" on them..
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  • Profile picture of the author esr
    "Ignore" is a strong word. It's a good idea to practice at least basic seo methods on your site, but you don't have to drive yourself crazy over that number one spot.

    Look at it this way. At any time, without any warning, Google could switch things up, and somehow you lose that number one position that you've been counting on for all of your traffic.

    Now you've lost ALL of your traffic and you're back to square one.

    Google is one method for getting free traffic, but I honestly feel that it's dangerous to put all of your eggs in one basket. Especially a basket that has all the control.
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  • Profile picture of the author bryansgal
    Yes, it's possible. It all comes down to what your site is about, as to how to ignore G I have a blog that regularly gets 100+ visits per day passively. That's from ONE social network and I don't even post often at the moment. All my traffic on that site pretty much comes from that one place. But yes, it did take time to make that account an authority account... no bots, no crap.
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    • Profile picture of the author Julius Minor
      Originally Posted by bryansgal View Post

      Yes, it's possible. It all comes down to what your site is about, as to how to ignore G I have a blog that regularly gets 100+ visits per day passively. That's from ONE social network and I don't even post often at the moment. All my traffic on that site pretty much comes from that one place. But yes, it did take time to make that account an authority account... no bots, no crap.
      Good stuff.. I have a Tumblr account on the first page of Google for a 96K/Month keyword and it's been there for over a year.. I get hundreds of visits from there everyday. The funny part is that I was just using a syndication plugin that was hot back in 2011 that required me to use Tumblr. (I don't use the plugin anymore) but it introduced me to the power of Tumblr.
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      • Profile picture of the author Tony Marriott
        If you are really asking "can i ignore Google and only target the other search engines" then the answer really is NO.
        But then all search engines require some kind of SEO so whay not look at the biggest search provider if you are going to look at any of them.

        To many, Google just seems to become a huge scary, awkward, unfriendly beast that is somethig to be battled. It only looks that way if you take on the initial idea that it is a fight and the way to beat it is with "magic" backlinking and content creation tools.

        Those that embrace Google and the whole concept of supplying great content are the real winners (and always will be).

        You will still need some SEO of course but if you approach it sensibly and more "naturally" you will be surprised at just how little you have to do to rank good content.

        Social traffic is possible without really embracing Google if done correctly but in truth takes as much work as SEO.

        If you truly want to ignore Google then paid traffic is your obvious solution (Unless you want to use AdWords ).
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  • Profile picture of the author sabatek
    Originally Posted by theaccountant View Post

    Are the enough volume going through other search engines to be able to effectively concentrate on non google search engine traffic?
    Frank Kern had a eBook talking about using Yahoo and he also said and I quote "Have you ever heard of the Yahoo smack down?" So, yes you can concentrate on non Google search engine traffic and be successful but I wouldn't completely give up on Google.

    I learned some new up-to-date info from Russell Brunson of DotComSecretsX that has simplified organic SEO traffic with Google...

    If you learn from the right people and keep up with changes you don't have to discount Google.
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  • Profile picture of the author clever7
    You shouldn’t desire to ignore Google, but try to get organic traffic from Google, besides doing many other things to get traffic from other sources. Google is a powerful search engine, and Google+ is very helpful.





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  • Profile picture of the author jay walters
    I don't believe so, we can't ignore google, especially with the rise of the display ad network.
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  • Profile picture of the author Pete Lauder
    Is it possible to ignore Google?

    Of course it is.

    Is it wise to ignore the 500lb gorilla in the room, no way!

    Google has matured to the point that it can now dictate how serps are decided upon.

    It has shown, with panda, and penguin, that the old methods of ranking will be eradicated, and this will include backlinks one day.

    Your job is to keep up to date with what they are rolling out, and envision how the future rankings will be decided.

    I welcome the Google changes, and look forward to reaping the benefits.

    Perhaps you should also consider this path.
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  • Profile picture of the author ezplr
    Of course you can ignore Google if you are getting enough traffic from other sources.
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  • Profile picture of the author serafina
    google is not everything, google only one source for getting traffic... although the traffic were targeted ....there are still a lot other thing such youtube, pinterest, social media, bing, yahoo , forum, press release you can use for generating traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
    Your job is to keep up to date with what they are rolling out, and envision how the future rankings will be decided.

    I welcome the Google changes, and look forward to reaping the benefits.

    Perhaps you should also consider this path.
    Why spend all your time trying to keep up to date and ahead of their newest algorithm updates though when you can just use alternative traffic methods and not worry about it?

    I do SEO / backlinking still but for most of my sites it's not a priority, it's an uphill battle that there's no point in fighting.
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  • Profile picture of the author theaccountant
    I will buy my traffic . I could not be bothered to spend all my waking hours do time consuming Seo stuff or paying others to do Seo stuff ... You still paying right. At least with targeted paid traffic you cut through the bull and find out if your sales page concerts and if it does you have JV opportunities. Why waste time? You still going to spend the money one way or another to get the traffic?
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  • Profile picture of the author sparkah
    Google is the steadiest way to get LONG term traffic.

    Personally, i LOVE google because i can plan my business around it.

    Anything else, and you'll just get a blip of traffic. blips are impossible to plan to.
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      • Profile picture of the author theaccountant
        Originally Posted by MikeTucker View Post

        Yeah, good luck with that.



        LOL, what is "blip"?? Anyway it is still wrong. In fact, many other methods
        of traffic, including any number of paid traffic methods that the OP has already
        said he will use, are far easier to plan around.

        Mike the problem maybe in the mindset where people still believe SEO is free , which it is not. Also there is the change in google where its business model increasingly favour large corporate big spending. People can't seem to accept that the days when google appeared to favour the little people to leave their 9 to 5 grind and Achieve their dreams for free are almost over.

        Google was humble when it just started , one of us - a new kid on the block. Doing the search engine thing for the right reasons. Since its IPO it was obvious that having established search engine dominance, it's owners would and its institutional share holders will demand it cash in. Which it has and is continuing to do. Just watch how Facebook will go the same way.

        I have noticed that most small guys making it with google Seo play a cat and mouse game , flirting with grey if not black hat that gets found out then they have to move to the next technique.

        I could not be bothered with playing these time consuming games.
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeTucker
          Originally Posted by theaccountant View Post

          Mike the problem maybe in the mindset where people still believe SEO is free , which it is not. Also there is the change in google where its business model increasingly favour large corporate big spending. People can't seem to accept that the days when google appeared to favour the little people to leave their 9 to 5 grind and Achieve their dreams for free are almost over.

          Google was humble when it just started , one of us - a new kid on the block. Doing the search engine thing for the right reasons. Since its IPO it was obvious that having established search engine dominance, it's owners would and its institutional share holders will demand it cash in. Which it has and is continuing to do. Just watch how Facebook will go the same way.

          I have noticed that most small guys making it will google Seo play a cat and mouse game , flirting with grey if not black hat that gets found out then they have to move to the next technique.

          I could not be bothered with playing these time consuming games.
          It's not only the games, you also have to consider the traffic
          you'd be getting after all that work.

          If you have a local offline business, like a restaurant,
          you might get some benefit from it. But in your case, I don't
          think I would use a search engine to find my next accountant!!

          You don't want broke people looking for free information.
          Buy some good ads and hire some good writers for a few
          good articles, and get them placed in expensive publications.
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        • Profile picture of the author PatriciaS
          Originally Posted by theaccountant View Post


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          Google was humble when it just started , one of us - a new kid on the block. Doing the search engine thing for the right reasons. Since its IPO it was obvious that having established search engine dominance, it's owners would and its institutional share holders will demand it cash in. Which it has and is continuing to do. Just watch how Facebook will go the same way.

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          Oh, I sense this is so true.

          I have a love/hate relationship with Google. On the one hand, who doesn't love being able to use Search for anything and everything? Heck, people don't even bother boookmarking key, often-visited sites anymore, they just make Google go fetch their desired site. I personally use Google as my main spell checker since it's so much faster than the actual online dictionaries I know about and offers the RIGHT spelling, usually.

          But their power is immense and growing, and I'm not just talking about Search, though that's a key one. With their hegemonic Search function they now unbelievable power. Instead of just offering the most relevant or most visited or most popular sites, they now have the power to guide, influence, direct and manipulate what they once seemed to be merely observing and reporting. They can now create their version of reality, and if it serves corporations over the needs of surfers, then they are, IMO, becoming dangerous. Do we need some entity deciding for us what's important, what we should see? I wouldn't think so.
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  • Profile picture of the author cferfland247
    yes, you can ignore Google and Social Media's can be your main free traffic source.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
    I will buy my traffic . I could not be bothered to spend all my waking hours do time consuming Seo stuff or paying others to do Seo stuff ... You still paying right. At least with targeted paid traffic you cut through the bull and find out if your sales page concerts and if it does you have JV opportunities. Why waste time? You still going to spend the money one way or another to get the traffic?
    Indeed. It costs money to do SEO (unless you're getting natural links) so why pay for something which is uncertain when you can spend your money on guaranteed and instant traffic. I'm not anti-SEO and I DO use it on some projects where applicable but it's definitely not a long term winning solution.
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  • Profile picture of the author IMSince2003
    There's no reason to ignore on-page SEO. You should always be very clear about what your website content is about.
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  • Profile picture of the author ronrule
    I say no, it's not possible to ignore Google. Even in an offline/phone business.

    Case in point, one of my clients produces infomercials - a lot of the products you see on TV come from them. More than 50% of their orders come from the web - but they aren't from people typing the domain into the address bar. They type the product name or brand into Google.

    If they aren't in the top 3 spots, copycats and affiliates who are get their sale. Weeks of SEO prep go into getting each of these brands #1 for their keyword. If my team is unsuccessful in doing that, the product sales suffer dramatically. If we can't get there organically in time for the first airing, we run an AdWords campaign to own it, even if it's a product that would never make sense in a long-term strategy.

    So no, I say you can't ignore google... not if you want to actually make money.
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  • Profile picture of the author paul nicholls
    I don't work on any seo traffic these days

    All the traffic i get are from other free traffic sources which are way more stable than seo

    I spent 2 years making most of my money from seo traffic but i got to a point and said enough
    is enough

    I now generate 4 - 5k per month and rising to my IM blog all from free traffic and only about 1% of this traffic is from seo

    ever since i got away from seo I've been sleeping much better :-)

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  • Profile picture of the author Demetrius
    Originally Posted by theaccountant View Post

    Are the enough volume going through other search engines to be able to effectively concentrate on non google search engine traffic?
    If you ignore google now, you will be missing a lot. So my answer is-
    "Not now, please try 5 years later"
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  • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
    I've been focusing on ignoring them for a while now. Do the basic SEO and move on to marketing. Its better to pay as you go and get live traffic IMHO.
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  • Profile picture of the author Vallank2
    As my dad always said, "The Cream Shall Rise to the Top"...........just focus on stirring the bucket with, SEO, Blogging, Social Media etc., and focus on building your list and don't worry about google or any other search engine for that matter.

    Just my take.
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  • Profile picture of the author Broyde
    I think the thing is when you are new you are told that you can get traffic from google without having to pay money for it. That's true, but they don't tell you what you will have to pay to get google's rank. I said it earlier, and I will say it again...we can/must and are able to do better than google.
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  • Profile picture of the author ejullya
    Originally Posted by theaccountant View Post

    Are the enough volume going through other search engines to be able to effectively concentrate on non google search engine traffic?
    Google is the major search engine. Late 2012 stats showed Google with 84% searches followed by Bing/Yahoo at 12% and Baidu 2% and Ask 1%. So if you are going to go with search engines you might as well stick with Google.

    Do what you are doing, make sure you have good on page SEO, write for humans and not search engines, socialize including Google + and also use other free traffic methods to drive traffic to your site
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  • Profile picture of the author higherluv
    Ignore whom? :p
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    • Profile picture of the author m00d
      I agree with the majority, at this point if you don't have G on your side you don't have enough to sustain your business.
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  • Profile picture of the author semmyz
    do not fight or ignore google it will find u wherever you hide
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  • Profile picture of the author onlineexperts
    You can try....
    From my experience it's a tough war at the moment. I tried to ignore them 2 years ago but have just ended up coming back to them within 3 months. They're a royal pain at times but unfortunately, they run a lot of the show. Tap into Social Media ....not other search engines .
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  • Profile picture of the author ceenote100
    You can't ignore google. Google owns! Do whatever you can to rank very high not just on google but on other search engines as well. It will take some time but in the long run you'll reap the rewards big time.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Social IQ
    I just can't comprehend why you would ignore the biggest and most used search engine. Take it from someone who is in their early 20's, my generation basically uses google to type in anything we search even if we know the URL. We are a lazy bunch and rely on google to spell check for us (Im kidding... or am I?).

    Anyhow, Google and other search engines are great and shouldnt be ignored but your main focus should still be great and unique content no matter where you are going to promote it. Spam is the worst and no one likes that junk.
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    • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
      Originally Posted by The Social IQ View Post

      I just can't comprehend why you would ignore the biggest and most used search engine. Take it from someone who is in their early 20's, my generation basically uses google to type in anything we search even if we know the URL. We are a lazy bunch and rely on google to spell check for us (Im kidding... or am I?).

      Anyhow, Google and other search engines are great and shouldnt be ignored but your main focus should still be great and unique content no matter where you are going to promote it. Spam is the worst and no one likes that junk.
      Of course you WANT to rank high in Google but there's no point in spending all your hard earned cash and time on trying to do so only for Google to update their algorithm and all your efforts to go to waste.

      If you focus on generating masses of traffic from other sources first and get them sorted then think about SEO you'll be in a much stronger and better position for it.
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    • Profile picture of the author theaccountant
      Originally Posted by The Social IQ View Post

      I just can't comprehend why you would ignore the biggest and most used search engine. Take it from someone who is in their early 20's, my generation basically uses google to type in anything we search even if we know the URL. We are a lazy bunch and rely on google to spell check for us (Im kidding... or am I?).

      Anyhow, Google and other search engines are great and shouldnt be ignored but your main focus should still be great and unique content no matter where you are going to promote it. Spam is the worst and no one likes that junk.
      your generation more often than not want everything for free
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  • Profile picture of the author GuruGuna
    ABSOLUTELY possible.


    At the end of the day it all depends on what you are trying to market.

    Look at your sales funnel and see how you can drive your traffic up without Google.

    Here is a hint, build a list.
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  • Profile picture of the author HzCy
    No, google has about 95% of all searches. The other 5% are yahoo and bing.

    Dont focus on the last 2, go DEFINETLY WITH GOOGLE!
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  • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
    This might surprise a lot of people here...

    People are at all kinds of websites already. You can always consider leveraging that traffic to quickly build an audience without adding the additional friction of trying to redirect them to a website first.

    An example: A Facebook or Twitter page that goes directly to Amazon. Rather than spending years building up the credibility of your own website you can consider leveraging the credibility and audiences of Facebook and Amazon to make the sale.

    So many new marketers start blindly building websites to get traffic when traffic can be purchased or acquired cheaply.

    If I was just starting out and looking to make money I'd master the offer and getting sales and leave the website development until later when I had a very good understanding of my target market.
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  • Profile picture of the author Velant
    Originally Posted by theaccountant View Post

    Are the enough volume going through other search engines to be able to effectively concentrate on non google search engine traffic?
    I wouldn't concentrate on SE traffic solely, even Yahoo and Bing may prove to be unreliable. Although organic traffic is certainly a nice thing to enjoy, think of other avenues like ppc and emaill marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marcus Rockey
    One of the great aspects of internet marketing is the vast supply of modems to generate leads. Ignoring Google is fine provided you can supplement that potential loss of lead gen with other platforms.

    Even so, Google is only of use when we rank in the top 10 spots.

    I see it as a big mistake to focus too much on any one traffic source. This is something I used to do and quickly became unstuck with algorithm changes. Since then I prefer to scoop a little from all, a series of shallow holes rather than one big deep one.

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  • Profile picture of the author HorseStall
    Ignore at your own peril....
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  • Profile picture of the author roblawrence
    If you ignore Google you risk becoming irrelevant.

    If a tree falls in the woods, does it make a sound? Yes, but nobody hears it. So who cares?! It's as if it didn't fall at all.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
      Originally Posted by roblawrence View Post

      If you ignore Google you risk becoming irrelevant.

      If a tree falls in the woods, does it make a sound? Yes, but nobody hears it. So who cares?! It's as if it didn't fall at all.
      Just curious, what is this based on?

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    • Profile picture of the author MikeTucker
      Originally Posted by roblawrence View Post

      If you ignore Google you risk becoming irrelevant.

      If a tree falls in the woods, does it make a sound? Yes, but nobody hears it. So who cares?! It's as if it didn't fall at all.
      No, it makes a vibration. It is the act of hearing that
      turns that vibration into sound. :p

      Actually, by forcing Google to ignore my sites, I have more free
      time to invest on things that actually make me money, rather than
      the poor, broke people who used to find me through searches.

      Forum Marketing and Article Syndication produce far better leads.
      And, for most people, they produce far more leads as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author royst
    Perhaps the question about ignoring Google is one of common sense rather than possibilities lost. The risk versus reward versus effort equation for the average punter does tend to suggest that being pulled around by the Google nose ring doesn't make a lot of sense unless it is only part of a strategic plan
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  • Profile picture of the author khooster1
    Google only consists 4% of the daily Internet traffic.
    Can be overrated these days.
    Beside this, the competition for google traffic is substantially high as
    Compared to other search engine traffics such as bing, yahoo.
    You might have better success with other engines.

    Beside this, there are other very targeted traffic available such as
    Social media, paid media, solo ads, email marketing, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author WordpressManiac
    You have to diversify your traffic sources, don't rely on Google alone. Use PPC, PPV, Solo Ads, Facebook, Twitter and other social Media. One big part is Video Marketing these days to get traffic from inside YouTube AND Google.

    All in all use your brain and try what works best for you and your offer :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
    For people just starting it is BEST to ignore Google. Focus on the many other traffic generating ideas first.

    Starting with that 'SEO mindset' of building pages and WAITING for results is really bad. You're better off using a more active strategy.
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  • Profile picture of the author butters
    Whats Google?
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  • Profile picture of the author seoed
    I think most of us think that online marketing is the best way to get traffic.

    most offline marketers say the opposite. they even claim that offline traffic
    gets you much better conversions. go back and try old-fashioned techniques
    like flyer marketing, they still seem to work
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    • Profile picture of the author Kreator517
      Originally Posted by seoed View Post

      I think most of us think that online marketing is the best way to get traffic.

      most offline marketers say the opposite. they even claim that offline traffic
      gets you much better conversions. go back and try old-fashioned techniques
      like flyer marketing, they still seem to work
      Alright, yes, we all know that online methods will provide ongoing revenue for an open-ended length of time in exchange for a few hours of work (if you invest enough time and/ or money)

      Having cut my teeth as a territory salesman in college, I can 100% vouche for the fact that offline methods have some distinct advantages

      A. Covert better
      3 hours on the phone gets me 5 new SEO Clients. a WSO bump is worth 1.
      B.Are more loyal Clients
      The first florist I closed in London is STILL hosting with us.
      C. Are your best Affiliates.
      Entrepeurship tends to be genetic. You close one business owner. and establish a relationship, do a decent job, and his brothers, uncles, cousins, and in laws will roll in like a flood.... and stick with you.

      For my service, for every hour I spend online, I'm spending two at social functions crawling with potential leads.

      I mean, seriously,

      Where would you rather look for clients? hunched over a screen coding peaking at porn every now and then or out having a drink at a networking event with a lovely local girl wrapped around your arm
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    No matter what you do, if your website is public, Google will find it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kreator517
    As an SEO myself, my two bits are that ignoring Google is perfectly reasonable in certain situations.

    1. You can afford so much advertizing that you can't be bothered

    2. Your list is large (and targeted enough) for you not to be bothered

    3. You (or an untrustworthy service provider) earned your site a penalty so severe that ad, list, and social media traffic are all you can reasonably go after, which you may as well do as long as your domain registry last.

    Personally, 2 of my older affiliate sites have been ignored but still convert very well on ad and popunder traffic.
    For example,
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  • Profile picture of the author moo1
    i personally could easily just ignore google,with so many ppc,ppv,banner platforms to choose from i dont need them......but im starting to get involved with video marketing now and seeing as they own youtube i should be embracing the BIG G!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Rob Harris
    My offline business has got a lot of interest and bookings from Facebook ads sending people to our page, we're approaching 500 likes but made about over £1000 in a few months from it, so we're scaling up!

    I looked at the keyword tool for people searching for our service in our area and there are about 20 exact a month, so I thought other routes would be better.
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  • Profile picture of the author generalzod
    It can be possible to ignore Google - but only if you have a very large email list. I stopped worrying about them a long while back and it's been ok. Depends on your niche and what you're offering really. For many SEO companies, ranking in Google for big terms isn't worth the investment - but that doesn't mean you can't be profitable in doing it.

    Oh and having multiple revenue streams helps too...
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  • Profile picture of the author emini_guy
    This may not be the best question to ask. I think a better question is "can you ignore search engines?" and the answer is obviously NO.

    You should not ignore them, but I don't think you should really treat google in any special way. I have never done that and while I have been hit somewhat by all the recent google algorithm changes, I can't say I have wasted my time trying to game it.

    At the same time, my positions in Yahoo and Bing still remain pretty strong, so as you see as long as you stick to a broad range of search engines, you don't need to be particularly concerned about google.

    Just my 2 cents.
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