If someone calls someone a Guru then so be it, but if someone calls themselves a Guru then I think its time to bust a gut laughing...

Yawn ... outdated, outmoded and outlandish term.

Oh, and by the way, there are no gurus in IM.

Will

Anyone that claims they are a guru is like anyone that tells you that you should respect them. Deluded.

Respect is earned, not asked for. The label "guru", if it is to be used at all, is earned not asked for.

A person that you see as a guru in any field might not be the same person that I would see as a guru.

I would look for someone who has a lot of knowledge, is able and willing to pass on that knowledge and who treats others with respect.

They call me the love guru lol jk No one uses that word in the IM industry and if they do it is actually looked down on anymore.

Lifelong spiritual training, a white robe, and a llama.

Everyone else is just a marketer.

Guru??? In marketing that doesn't exists. No one knows it all - everyone is doing this through trial and error.

It's just internet slang. Lol. I wrote a blog post on this:

Guru: A spiritual teacher - (original definition)


Guru (Internet Slang): One who has made millions or 6 figures, internet marketing and who teaches others how to do the same.


Here are some Top Real Internet Marketing Guru's: Dave Wood, Dave Sharpe, Russell Brunson, Frank Kern, Mike Filsane, Deagan Smith, Marie Forleo, John Chow (sorry if I forget anyone) -

I am a Guru.

Seriously, what matters most is the income generated online.

Haha I never realised the term was thought of upon like that. I think it would of been better if I had worded it differently.

When I said GURU, I was referring to the big people in the IM, the ones that all the newbies seem be drawn too. I hope that explains it better

The only thing that makes someone a "Guru" or expert is positioning. People who are good at positioning themselves as an expert will be seen as the expert. Money, cars, houses, etc. really don't matter. It's all about positioning.

Well... their astonishing income... and their ability to teach people how to achieve that same income.. that's pretty much a guru in my eyes lol.

I think it's someone who's achieved a very bold feat, like I guess you could consider Warren Buffett a financial guru. But there are not many, you see Warren doesn't try to build an audience. People are naturally attracted to his investing wisdom.

You could of considered Steve Jobs a marketing guru. But someone who can sell $5MM of software (info product) to me isn't anything special. There's plenty of unheard of software companies that do that every quater.

That's my take on the term anyway.

A better way of thinking about this is actually 'who do I pick as my mentor'. That 'G' word is just a bad slang way of describing the concept of a leader.

True leaders, mentors and coaches in IM are focussed on inspiring your results from their own real experience so that's probably how the G word evolved.

I think it's too 'fluffy' a term now to provide a reference point for picking mentors today though.

The only think you need to be a guru is an 8 dollar domain name.

To me it's someone who uses cool terminology like:

autopilot
dirty little secrets
Ninja strategies
...little or no effort...
Done for you...
Oh, yeah... Screenshots of really impressive earnings along with pics of bikini babes, fast cars and cash swirling around in the background. Yeah, baby. That's a guru for sure.

You know, the dream makers. My heroes. :rolleyes:

It seems to me that the term 'guru', in Internet Marketing, is hurled at an imaginary group of marketers who know everything, have all the money, and don't want you to succeed....! LOL

Its a great tactic to knock them down, when in fact anyone can knock over a straw-man!

There seems to be an aura of unapproachability about the so called gurus! Who started it? Did some top marketers (perhaps thought of as gurus) to protect what they had (knowing the Internet moves so fast, and when you become BIG its harder to respond), or was it someone who aspired to be a top marketer (but knew they were not) and decided to become the Guru Sniper?

Richard

Don't ask about Ninjas...people who do just disapear for no reason.

Here's a great article on "social media gurus (etc)" stats (it's a growth industry) which pretty much shows how completely worthless that term is today.

Regards,
jim

Guru is just a term that someone gets when they are of high status in their field, financial etc. Most of the time I see the term "I'm no Guru" here on the forum. But as mentioned in a previous post, it is an outdated term and not used in IM. If someone states they are an IM guru, then run as fast as you can...lol

You calling yourself a guru and people accepting you as one. That's it.

From what I understand a Guru is a Master "teacher"

So, if you are a Master at teaching, then you could be called a Guru.

But Guru's never call themselves Guru's ever, only those who recognize their ability and have great respect for them call them Guru's.

I only listen to anti-gurus...due to my contrarian nature....

Brass Balls.

That's one of the main traits gurus have.

They don't wait to be anointed.

They jump out there and boldly say that they're THE
ONE in their subject area.

Then they attract clients and partners who help them
reinforce their positioning in the marketplace.

Of course, you need to have the real expertise to back
it up (if you want to last long-term), but brass balls is
where it starts.

Dedicated to mutual success,

Shaun

For me, a Guru is someone who is very knowledgeable about something, yet doesn't call himself a Guru. The ones who call him that are the other people who know his work and respect him for his knowledge and contribution to whatever industry/market he is in.

Nothing...the term "guru" is a made up word that has different meanings to different people in the MMO IM world.

RoD

In marketing there really is no such thing as a guru.

Some people teach what they know and some are better
at teaching than others.

The whole idea that someone would be "all wise and all knowing"
in an industry that changes constantly is laughable.


The dictionary definitions of guru are as follows:

1
: a personal religious teacher and spiritual guide in Hinduism
2
a : a teacher and especially intellectual guide in matters of fundamental concern
b : one who is an acknowledged leader or chief proponent
c : a person with knowledge or expertise


Almost everyone on this forum would qualify as 2c after they've
been here a couple of weeks so I guess you could say we're all
gurus or more realistic would be to say none of us are gurus.

Kindest regards,
Andrew Cavanagh

What do you believe makes someone a GURU?



Granted I may not agree with them, but, if someone has market placement they are perceived as an expert guru, and, is compensated handsomely from the effect most times.

P.S. LOL, just read Shaun say the same thing. That's what happen when you post without reading comments. Like minds tend to think alike.