Hype or Truth? $99,400 per month, $236.00 a day, $400 a week, $5385 in 9 days

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$40,000 a month. Superguru made me a millionaire. $5,000 in solo ads. These are all headlines from WSOs or the ads on the forum. I changed the numbers just a tad. Come on. Does anybody believe you can simply buy one of these WSOs and make this kind of money?

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  • Profile picture of the author AlexanderBeloev
    Originally Posted by DeePower View Post

    $40,000 a month. Superguru made me a millionaire. $5,000 in solo ads. These are all headlines from WSOs or the ads on the forum. Come on. Does anybody believe this stuff?

    Dee
    For sure there are people making this amount of money here on the forum. But for sure you cannot make $99K in your first month or year with just investing $7 (the price of the WSO)

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  • Profile picture of the author Kukelka
    Originally Posted by DeePower View Post

    $40,000 a month. Superguru made me a millionaire. $5,000 in solo ads. These are all headlines from WSOs or the ads on the forum. I changed the numbers just a tad. Come on. Does anybody believe this stuff?

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    I believe Soon I reach this numbers also !
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  • Profile picture of the author himanuzo
    I believe the earning $40.000/mo. You must have knowledge about how to earn it, persistence and clear goal to reach this level.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chri5123
    Originally Posted by DeePower View Post

    $40,000 a month. Superguru made me a millionaire. $5,000 in solo ads. These are all headlines from WSOs or the ads on the forum. I changed the numbers just a tad. Come on. Does anybody believe this stuff?

    Dee
    This is an age old topic.

    Yes, people do believe it and unfortunately it is normally the people that should be keeping their money that buy in to schemes, tricks and methods to make money.

    The truth is that if the numbers ARE real it is normally down to months of hard work, setting up JV's, email blasts etc... to achieve those numbers and someone brand new to IM is probably not going to achieve that.

    But you have to start somewhere I guess.
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    • Profile picture of the author DeePower
      I'm not saying you can't make money on the Internet, even lots of money. I'm saying I don't believe it's possible to buy a WSO that magically stuffs your paypal account with $100 bills.
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      • Profile picture of the author AlexanderBeloev
        Originally Posted by DeePower View Post

        I'm not saying you can't make money on the Internet, even lots of money. I'm saying I don't believe it's possible to buy a WSO that magically stuffs your paypal account with $100 bills.
        You said it right! Not just any WSO, but any product on the internet can't magically stuffs your PayPal account with $100 bills.
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      • Profile picture of the author George Wright
        Originally Posted by DeePower View Post

        I'm not saying you can't make money on the Internet, even lots of money. I'm saying I don't believe it's possible to buy a WSO that magically stuffs your paypal account with $100 bills.
        The same as a doctor or lawyer won't make millions just because they spent 6 figures on a Harvard education. They have to do something with their education.

        There's nothing magical at all. Successful professionals work hard.

        I've never heard the pitch from Harvard, however, I have heard the hype from lesser educational institutions and their hype makes the WSO forum look quite tame and their spiel is given to kids.

        If people actually paid big money for WSOs instead the small amounts that are paid, they might take the time and make the effort to be successful.

        As it is, it's easy to buy, buy, buy, jumping from one WSO to another, never taking the time to prove or not prove if any of them will work.

        To quote a man who I witnessed buying 10 lottery tickets...

        After scratching them and losing on all of them he said, "Well, at least I had fun."

        I was trying to make a point, but, I forget what it was.

        I'm off to buy another WSO.

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      • Profile picture of the author Tsnyder
        Originally Posted by DeePower View Post

        I'm not saying you can't make money on the Internet, even lots of money. I'm saying I don't believe it's possible to buy a WSO that magically stuffs your paypal account with $100 bills.
        Of course not. Are you missing the part where you
        actually have to do the work described in the product?
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      • Profile picture of the author mallick
        Originally Posted by DeePower View Post

        I'm not saying you can't make money on the Internet, even lots of money. I'm saying I don't believe it's possible to buy a WSO that magically stuffs your paypal account with $100 bills.
        In that $9 WSO they will tell you how to invest more and more money to get the huge amount of money That's it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Malcolm Thomas
      Originally Posted by Chri5123 View Post

      This is an age old topic.

      Yes, people do believe it and unfortunately it is normally the people that should be keeping their money that buy in to schemes, tricks and methods to make money.

      The truth is that if the numbers ARE real it is normally down to months of hard work, setting up JV's, email blasts etc... to achieve those numbers and someone brand new to IM is probably not going to achieve that.

      But you have to start somewhere I guess.
      This is the correct answer. Success online ultimately comes down to a person's work ethic. How hard they work, how smart they work, whether or not they take action, whether or not they learn from their mistakes,etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author jurojin
    It is possible. Not everybody though
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by DeePower View Post

    $40,000 a month. Superguru made me a millionaire. $5,000 in solo ads. These are all headlines from WSOs or the ads on the forum. I changed the numbers just a tad. Come on. Does anybody believe this stuff?
    I don't know ... but I urge people not to buy products (here or anywhere else) which market themselves with income claims of that kind. And I so much wish that the forum wouldn't allow those to be posted here.
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  • Profile picture of the author New Comer
    It's a giant turn off isn't it?

    Don't you wonder how those people live with themselves?

    Yeah yeah, it's 7 dollars and the information is valid, so it's technically not a scam. We already know.
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  • Profile picture of the author butters
    If I ever see a number I walk away, income claims are never backed up with actual proof. Systems sold online are either reaching the end of their life spam, don't work or something someone read in a book. Your better of searching for your answers instead of looking for the golden bullet in a book!
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    • Profile picture of the author Janice Sperry
      Originally Posted by butters View Post

      If I ever see a number I walk away, income claims are never backed up with actual proof. Systems sold online are either reaching the end of their life spam, don't work or something someone read in a book. Your better of searching for your answers instead of looking for the golden bullet in a book!
      That is either:
      1. The best typo I have seen in a long time
      2. The best Freudian slip I have seen in a long time
      3. The best pun I have seen in a long time

      Good post and thanks for the bonus laugh.
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    had to do it
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    • Profile picture of the author Kukelka
      Originally Posted by New Comer View Post

      had to do it
      I personaly really hate these types of claims ... i think everybody knows what it's impossible to earn what much .Impossible. I think moderators should change some wso section rules ,because some people will believe the headline , buy this stuff , will not make any money and warrior forum reputation gets hurt...
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      • Profile picture of the author Ian Jackson
        I will only invest in a WSO that suggests I can learn a method or technique from which I can potentially earn extra income, than one that shouts at me that I can make $$$$'s in 5 days flat.

        Sadly, the shiny-object syndrome lives on (until they're banned). Often the folly of "investing" in shiny objects is something that is only learned over time, and painful experience. It's common sense, but the problem with common sense is that...
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        • Profile picture of the author DeePower
          Rod said "By the way, I just made 8,712,777 dollars this morning in my underwear selling stuff in my pajamas."

          So you were selling what you stuffed in your pajamas?

          On a more serious note. I think that those headlines at the top of the WF impact what visitors and potential new members think of the forum and participants.

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          • Profile picture of the author New Comer
            Originally Posted by DeePower View Post

            Rod said "By the way, I just made 8,712,777 dollars this morning in my underwear selling stuff in my pajamas."

            So you were selling what you stuffed in your pajamas?

            On a more serious note. I think that those headlines at the top of the WF impact what visitors and potential new members think of the forum and participants.

            Dee
            They definitely impact my thoughts of the place. I've met some cool people here also seen some shiesters
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        • Profile picture of the author OldLodgeSkins
          Originally Posted by Ian Jackson View Post

          Sadly, the shiny-object syndrome lives on
          Unfortunately, yes it does...
          If you look at the WSO section it seems the offers that attract the most interest are those that promise to make a huge amount of money in a short amount of time.
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  • Profile picture of the author OldLodgeSkins
    IMHO the people who actually make $40,000 a month or similar don't brag about it...
    It is most certainly possible. But that kind of claim tends to make me suspicious from the get go... I think having more reasonable objectives, at least when you're just starting out, is far better. The first thing is to live off your online activity, which is already a challenge, once you get there then maybe start thinking about making $40k per month...
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by OldLodgeSkins View Post

      IMHO the people who actually make $40,000 a month or similar don't brag about it...
      I'm inclined to agree.

      The people I know, myself, earning amounts like that have nothing to do with any "MMO" niches/markets anyway, so they'd typically have no need or wish to brag about it.

      Originally Posted by OldLodgeSkins View Post

      It is most certainly possible. But that kind of claim tends to make me suspicious from the get go...
      Me too, if it's being used as a way of selling something with the obvious inference "you could earn this sort of money, too". That's only a narrow hairsbreadth away from being downright fraudulent. Some people imagine that just because something's true, that necessarily makes it legitimate to state it as a sales representation however and in whatever words they feel like it. Their lawyers think otherwise. So does the FTC but it moves selectively and often disappointingly slowly.

      Originally Posted by Rod Cortez View Post

      I just made 8,712,777 dollars this morning in my underwear selling stuff in my pajamas
      Never mind that - I want to know how much you make in your pajamas when you're selling it in your underwear.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
    Originally Posted by DeePower View Post

    $40,000 a month. Superguru made me a millionaire. $5,000 in solo ads. These are all headlines from WSOs or the ads on the forum. I changed the numbers just a tad. Come on. Does anybody believe you can simply buy one of these WSOs and make this kind of money?

    Dee
    Well, here's the conundrum: I personally know more than a few WSO sellers who pull in those kinds of numbers, consistently, and it's not just from selling their WSO(s). Of course, I also know of few who knowingly exaggerate their earnings or they make up a catchy headline with an income claim insertion and I make it a point never to do business with them (and if they are breaking any of the WSO rules I report them).

    So, who do you actually believe?

    On the flipside of that logic, who do you actually not believe?

    And though this topic has been done to death, there are still plenty of newcomers who haven't read any of the older threads that discuss this.

    There's something to be said about doing your research before purchasing a WSO. One of the easiest things you can do is contact the seller and ask them questions to see how they respond to you. Do they have refund policy? An iron-clad money back guarantee?

    I'm always leery of anyone who sells something in the WSO forum and they don't have any track record that I can research on. So make sure you do your research before purchasing any Warrior Special Offer.

    By the way, I just made 8,712,777 dollars this morning in my underwear selling stuff in my pajamas......

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  • Profile picture of the author New Comer
    All i need is 3k a month to start! Then up to 5!
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I'm actually surprised that the FTC isn't having a hay-day with these WSOs. It's illegal to make any claims that you can't prove to be "average results". If one of those agents got in here, there'd be a massive "cull" of marketers in that forum.
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    • Profile picture of the author DeePower
      And that's why it's a puzzle to me that the WF allows the income claims. Wouldn't the owners of WF be held accountable by the FTC as well?

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      • Profile picture of the author New Comer
        Originally Posted by DeePower View Post

        Wouldn't the owners of WF be held accountable by the FTC as well?

        Dee
        I hope so. They are JUST as guilty in my eyes. They're like the kingpins of the whole thing.

        As long as they keep getting paid I think they'll keep looking the other way.

        Probably some deeply embedded term/condition somewhere that makes them not responsible for anything.
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      • Profile picture of the author WarrenPeterson
        Originally Posted by DeePower View Post

        And that's why it's a puzzle to me that the WF allows the income claims. Wouldn't the owners of WF be held accountable by the FTC as well?

        Dee
        In general, forum or website owners usually aren't liable for what the users of the forum or website do/say/post. However, in this case, as the owners are compensated in exchange for the paid posts, that might open a loophole. I would guess they have already had this discussion though, with both their legal and accounting folks...
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennisknows
    It's all hype to attract the people they want to attract.

    I was chilling with a big name internet marketer and he was telling me why he never did any IM products. He said because many people who want to do IM aren't the type of people he wants in his business.

    They don't want to build a list
    ...don't want to create a product
    ...don't want to talk to people
    ...don't want to learn how to build a website..
    etc... The list goes on...

    They just want to sit back, collect checks and go to the beach....

    I'm sure there are people earning this type of money but if they told people what they went through to get there, no one would buy they're products...

    The same goes for all the late night infomercials. I remember the real estate ones. Talking about how easy it is to buy a home with no money, no credit. This is 100% true because Ive closed a few real estate deals and made money but 9 times out of 10, you'll have to spend a lot of money in advertising.

    The selling point is the give the "buyer" just what they want up front.... after they "Buy" it's up to them where or not they take action....

    Now for the pink elephant in the room

    No one really states how most products are sold based on the fact that most people will buy product after product and do nothing with them. We're talking about a big percentage of people.

    They never take action. There are marketers who depend heavily on these types of buyers.

    It's a fact that our society is full of people who want big things without doing anything.

    So the question is, are the people wrong for their thinking or are the marketers wrong simply for capitalizing on an opportunity to make money that otherwise, would just be sitting there?

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    • Profile picture of the author New Comer
      Originally Posted by Dennisknows View Post

      So the question is, are the people wrong for their thinking or are the marketers wrong simply for capitalizing on an opportunity to make money that otherwise, would just be sitting there?
      I ask my self the same thing. I just don't see that as a "real" or "sustainable" business. I mean there will always be lazy people who will buy promises of a lot of something for a little nothing, but is that right?

      Is it just because I'm jealous those guys are making money?

      I am confident I could launch a successful basic IM WSO with all the stuff I've learned over the past year, definitely if I aimed at total newbs who know little to nothing about how money is made online.

      But I don't do it because that's not the type of person I am. I'm not trying to hate on anyone who does that stuff I mean hey, ya'll eatin! I'm broke....but still I just wanna build something better.

      And don't think the site in my sig is my idea of better. That site sucks and I'm probably gonna ditch it soon. I just set it up as a membership site the other day from a site selling individual beats but I just haven't got that far the past year. Another reason I don't launch my WSO haha
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  • Profile picture of the author IMStrategus
    You Can't.

    You still have to put in lots of work, implement it and take action.

    Just buying WSO's is not event your first step it's just the training before the race.
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    • Profile picture of the author New Comer
      I just got a very, very interesting email in my inbox from this thread.

      I can't even email the person back because somethings wrong with their email address....

      Some chilling info about certain members on this board.

      One of them happens to have made an appearance in this thread.....
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  • Profile picture of the author ZephyrIon
    Originally Posted by DeePower View Post

    $40,000 a month. Superguru made me a millionaire. $5,000 in solo ads. These are all headlines from WSOs or the ads on the forum. I changed the numbers just a tad. Come on. Does anybody believe you can simply buy one of these WSOs and make this kind of money?

    Dee
    Of course, but not by just buying a WSO.

    For instance if you have a CPC of .01 and your EPC is .02 and you only have $1000 you'll only make $2000 after you make your money back.

    You have to remember. There is no magic in all of this.

    I have a friend that was making $30,000 a month doing something called lead generation arbitrage. I know another guy that spend $350,000 a month and makes $800,000 you have to learn how to optimize ads and the simple fact that when you see an ad all the time it probably is converting well so copy it.
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  • Profile picture of the author timpears
    Sure you can, you don't even have to do anything, just buy it and have it on your hard drive and the money will start rolling into your bank account.

    Does anyone believe that crap?
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  • Profile picture of the author theaccountant
    the fact that you have to ask about whether this claim of making in effect a mil a year just like that is credible make me wonder...about you
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  • Profile picture of the author beauxesprits
    People believe these things and buy there ebooks.... and they earn from it..... I have learnt one thing from IM... The people left with no options only write ebooks. This is the last way to earn money.
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    • Profile picture of the author New Comer
      Originally Posted by beauxesprits View Post

      People believe these things and buy there ebooks.... and they earn from it..... I have learnt one thing from IM... The people left with no options only write ebooks about how to make money online doing something else. This is the last way to earn money.
      fixed that for you
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  • Profile picture of the author Victor Edson
    In business there are 2 types of people

    Buyers
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    Sellers

    One gets rich while the other wonders why they're broke.

    Nothin wrong with being either one.. Your life is what you make it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Hess
    Why worry about it? If they want to use crazy income claims let them.

    When you are constantly bothered by this sort of stuff it invites negativity...

    Who cares what other people are doing and focus on your own business.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Kendo
    THE TRUTH

    Yes, some are earning this kind of money

    No, none of them are doing it from purchasing one wso.

    No, none are doing it without many, many hours invested in learning and pursuing a goal.

    No, none are doing it within 30 days of starting an internet business for the first time.

    Yes, that is a lot of hype.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikeac
    Nothing but alot of hype. Don't ever trust any WSO that says "$40,000 in days with this simple push button miracle". Better yet save yourself the trouble and don't click on them.
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  • Profile picture of the author thedanbrown
    That's called sales...

    Have you ever seen a health ad? I bet the person you see working out in front of you is in pretty damn good shape, and I bet you some of their testimonials have awesome stories too about losing lots of weight really quickly...

    The point is, it's all about what you do. If you don't take massive action you won't make money, that's it! The gurus you hear about in the IM industry who are making serious money like that don't spend their time consuming information, instead they spend their time marketing and creating. They work only at the things that will make them money...

    Focus is one of the biggest secrets to IM.
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  • Profile picture of the author theory expert
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    This goes back to the beating the system mindset. Nobody wants to believe they are going to take years to succeed. They say, "it's not gonna be me". Here is where we fail as humans.

    I may not know much, but, one thing I know works for sure is selling shovels to the miners. I might be going into the dream seller business myself. I know marketers like to say do what you love, but, that is a path that you have nothing to model after. Just look around this forum and you can figure out how to sell MM products. It is right in your face. That's why so many people are selling shovels here and not doing what they preach. What % of these guys income come from something other than MM niche. If they took away the MM niche and consulting they might be broke. This is just a legal way to be a crook. Albeit a snakish way that makes me feel slimmy, but, hey what else are you gonna do.
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    • Profile picture of the author New Comer
      Originally Posted by theory expert View Post

      This is just a legal way to be a crook. Albeit a snakish way that makes me feel slimmy, but, hey what else are you gonna do.
      100% correct.


      And that's where we differ. I could easily do what so many others are doing on this site. Easily.

      But I'm way better than that. I'll stay broke for as long as it takes to build something legit that provides real value.

      I've even seen people on here offering free WSO reviews in return for testimonials saying "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours"


      Sick.
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      • Profile picture of the author theory expert
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        Originally Posted by New Comer View Post

        I'll stay broke for as long as it takes to build something legit that provides real value.
        Providing value doing what? Are you not in the MM niche? If not, how are your learning in the niche you are in? Any mentors? I am just asking out of curiosity.
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        • Profile picture of the author New Comer
          Originally Posted by theory expert View Post

          Providing value doing what? Are you not in the MM niche? If not, how are your learning in the niche you are in? Any mentors? I am just asking out of curiosity.
          No, not in MMO niche.

          I'm learning my niche by making every mistake I can possibly make.

          I'm in a very tough market lol.

          I'm trying to sell my beats online, and sell things to producers (drum samples, possibly info products in the future, etc).

          It's hard to explain to people who aren't familiar with the culture. What I mean by that is most of the prospects in my niche don't have a lot of money, they dont want to buy a damn thing, and they have terrible mind states.

          I've made about $500 over the past 14/15 months, and thats just total revenue. I'm probably negative when you compare that to expenses. Definitely negative.

          I was trying to sell my beats one by one before, but I just redesigned my site as a membership site.

          Jamie Lewis found a way to make it work I can do the same.

          I do want to get out of the niche and in to something else though, I just have no clue what.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Ten
    I bought one WSO once. I won't buy another one for a long while, if ever.
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    • Profile picture of the author New Comer
      Originally Posted by Michael Ten View Post

      I bought one WSO once. I won't buy another one for a long while, if ever.
      Fool me once, shame on me.

      Won't fool me again lol.

      If nothing else we can all learn from their tactics.

      They're pretty damn good at building curiosity.

      Even when I KNOW it's bullshit I often wanna get it just thinking man, what the hell is this BS
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  • Profile picture of the author CaesarSEO
    Originally Posted by DeePower View Post

    $40,000 a month. Superguru made me a millionaire. $5,000 in solo ads. These are all headlines from WSOs or the ads on the forum. I changed the numbers just a tad. Come on. Does anybody believe you can simply buy one of these WSOs and make this kind of money?

    Dee
    I'm living proof of the fact that WSO can make a "knows nothing guy" to make a lot of money online. I'm telling you, I'm the living proof.

    But obviously I put in a lot of work from my part.
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