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So every single WSO is an amazing cash cow?

by cortsmith
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Why does every single WSO have overwhelmingly positive reviews? Surely, they're not all incredible, cant miss money making machines?

As level headed and unbiased as responses are in this section of the forum, the are that biased in the WSO section.

What gives?
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by cortsmith View Post

    Why does every single WSO have overwhelmingly positive reviews?
    They don't.

    There are hundreds of negative reviews there, as well.

    Some of the positive reviews are left by people who received "review copies". The forum's rules oblige them to disclose that, but some of them have forgotten to do so, in my opinion.

    Originally Posted by cortsmith View Post

    What gives?
    "Caveat emptor" gives - here, as everywhere else.

    But it's actually pretty easy to tell which ones are safe to buy: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7839280
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  • Profile picture of the author intergen
    What Alexa said Geez tried to post something but I don't have a chance against you Alexa - you're fast AND good.
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  • Profile picture of the author cindytsmile
    Here are a couple of things that I look for.

    I look at the claims, do they seem too good to be true?

    Does the WSO fit into my business plan already? If not, do I really need it?

    Is the price in my budget? Is the price appropriate to the product?
    In other words, if it seems too low, that might be a red flag.
    If the price is way too high, I would hesitate.

    I read comments below the WSO, not just the 'featured reviews'.

    Anyone else?
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  • Profile picture of the author Victor Edson
    A lot of WSO sellers give away their product in the Warrior Looking to Hire
    You section in exchange for reviews, and those are the ones you normally
    will see in the sales copy.

    For the real reviews, scroll to the end of the thread & read backwards..
    that's where you'll see if there are any real problems with the WSO.

    Also, don't buy crap you don't need.
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  • Profile picture of the author WordpressManiac
    I have to agree with Alexa too. That's why I always look at the last comment on the thread to get a more honest opinion.
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  • Profile picture of the author PvPGuy
    They don't all, but you've discovered a general axiom for the wso section and life: If you don't have something nice to say, you shouldn't say anything at all.

    On the surface, it may appear intuitively logical that you want negative reviews along with positive; that's more realistic, right? The problem is, that the wso section is not the place for arguing one subjective perception vs. another. In other words, one man's garbage just might be another man's treasure.

    That doesn't mean there isn't true garbage there; likewise, there are plenty of honest reviews - but even the not so positive reviews will not necessarily be negative. And that is just a part of learning the decorum of any forum.

    In reality, as your knowledge and experience in IM grows, so does what you consider "garbage." That doesn't mean it won't be helpful to someone else. So bringing negative reviews is frowned upon. Honest reviews are fine, but negative ones can quickly devolve - this is a forum after all, where people love to strut like peacocks and fight like roosters :p
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Originally Posted by cortsmith View Post

    Why does every single WSO have overwhelmingly positive reviews?
    Every single WSO does not have positive reviews. I've seen many crash and burn and I've seen a number of them closed by a moderator.
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    • Profile picture of the author OnlineStoreHelp
      I just did my first WSO on March 6 and I tried to go out of my way to be as honest and upfront as possible without giving away how my WSO works. I was surprised you said you wouldn't buy video WSO's as that was the only way to really show how my system worked. A PDF wouldn't work.

      That being said, I gave three review copies out. One I gave I wish I hadn't as he came and gave a canned response in the thread which I felt cheapened it. The other two never left reviews but just used it to evaluate whether it was good for their customers and I got several sales from them. My best review was from a buying customer who was quite honest in its assessment which I think added a ton of value.

      I spent a good amount of time answering questions in thread as well as questions by email for people that bought. I didn't make any income claims, just a way to do what Animoto does, without having to pay a monthly fee for HD video slide shows. I priced it at half the cost of one month of Animoto.

      I do go and check the number of refund requests. You figure there will always be a few but if you see a ton of them, that's a red flag. (So far I have had zero refund requests.) I won't buy any WSO's from sellers that are belligerent or ridicule those who ask questions. There are a couple sellers on here that have "great reputations" that 6 months later I am still waiting for a reply on my ticket. Guess what, you read any threads of their WSO's and they are outright rude.
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  • Profile picture of the author craig crawford
    Originally Posted by cortsmith View Post

    Why does every single WSO have overwhelmingly positive reviews? Surely, they're not all incredible, cant miss money making machines?

    As level headed and unbiased as responses are in this section of the forum, the are that biased in the WSO section.

    What gives?
    It's because the reviews are left by people who got them for free buddy.. or by friends! If its a good product.. then Why not? I say!

    hope this helps
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  • Profile picture of the author mialove
    Last page on the thread this is where i start to read This way you can see a different picture usually.
    Sometimes, a very bad WSO only get positive reviews, and its weird.
    I would like to give an example, but i am not sure i want to deal with it, lol.
    Anyway, i will not mention any names, but i bought a truly suck WSO, not only it was black hat method and super unethical (to steal content and so on), but also, the owner lied in the thread.
    The funny thing...no one say anything.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by mialove View Post

      i bought a truly suck WSO, not only it was black hat method and super unethical (to steal content and so on), but also, the owner lied in the thread.
      The funny thing...no one say anything.
      That's very bad. If only the early buyers would mention and demonstrate to the moderators that it involves stealing content, it (and maybe its vendor) would promptly be removed. But they can't do anything if people don't tell them.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        That's very bad. If only the early buyers would mention and demonstrate to the moderators that it involves stealing content, it (and maybe its vendor) would promptly be removed. But they can't do anything if people don't tell them.
        Darn it Alexa. I steal your content all the time because it is excellent content. Thing is I do not publish it on the web.. I publish it in my head.

        Shhh don't tell a mod

        Jeffery 100% :-)
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        • Profile picture of the author WillR
          Originally Posted by Victor Edson View Post

          Also, don't buy crap you don't need.
          He took the words right outta my mouth.

          The best advice you will ever get around this forum.

          Originally Posted by Danny Cutts View Post

          To be honest I think its a case you scratch my back I will scratch yours.....
          It most certainly is. I have seen both sides of the equation. I have seen what goes on 'behind closed doors'. You would be very well advised to ignore the first page or two of reviews in the bigger product launches. You'll find a lot of them are just coaching students, fellow members of mastermind groups, facebook groups, etc leaving positive reviews on each others products. You'll start to see the pattern if you look hard enough.

          Wait a day or two until you start to see the comments and feedback from REAL customers who do not know the vendor and have paid REAL money to buy the product. Their opinion is a lot more frank and counts for a lot more (I think).
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    • Profile picture of the author glennshep
      Originally Posted by mialove View Post

      Last page on the thread this is where i start to read This way you can see a different picture usually
      This is what I usually do now too. When I was new to buying WSOs I, like so many others I'm sure, fell victim to believing the good 'reviews' and then after buying the product being puzzled as to how it got all those glowing reviews.

      On the other side of the coin, though, some WSOs get slated unfairly, perhaps because someone has an issue of some kind with the seller, is making assumptions that the product is rubbish without even seeing it, is just trying prove some point, or is just trying to be clever. Whichever way, it can be difficult to get an accurate picture from both good and bad reviews.

      I think it's important to learn how to look a little deeper and to sift out the chaff. These days, if there's something that I'm interested in I look for reviews that give details and say WHY they're giving it a good or bad review. If a WSO thread is just a list of vague praise or equally vague castigation then I'll be unlikely to purchase myself until I see evidence of accurate, detailed reviews that state the reasons as to why and in what specific ways the product is good or bad
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    To be honest I think its a case you scratch my back I will scratch yours.....
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  • Profile picture of the author mialove
    That's very bad. If only the early buyers would mention and demonstrate to the moderators that it involves stealing content, it (and maybe its vendor) would promptly be removed. But they can't do anything if people don't tell them.
    I agree with you.
    Who exactly deal with this stuff on the forum? I can send him a PM.
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  • Profile picture of the author TimothyTorrents
    I am guessing a lot of the reviews are from review samples. In other words, the product in exchange for a review. Just a thought.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim_Carter
    Ignore any reviews until you see some from people who put it into action. Those are the only ones that count.

    Reviews that say how great the content is mean nothing.
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    Originally Posted by cortsmith View Post

    Why does every single WSO have overwhelmingly positive reviews? Surely, they're not all incredible, cant miss money making machines?

    As level headed and unbiased as responses are in this section of the forum, the are that biased in the WSO section.

    What gives?
    Why is it that every new member with fewer than 15 posts complains about WSOs being amazing cash cows? What gives? :rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author salegurus
      Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

      Why is it that every new member with fewer than 15 posts complains about WSOs being amazing cash cows? What gives? :rolleyes:
      Wish there were more people like the OP who actually question things and who don't follow blindly like sheep.
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by salegurus View Post

        Wish there were more people like the OP who actually question things and who don't follow blindly like sheep.
        Actually, the OP is based on a complete untruth.

        Every single WSO is overwhelmingly positive reviews
        Simply not true. He hasn't seen every single WSO and he certainly hasn't read all the ones I've read that were a train wreck. So really, all those who are agreeing are just following blindly like sheep. :rolleyes:
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        • Profile picture of the author salegurus
          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          Actually, the OP is based on a complete untruth.



          Simply not true. He hasn't seen every single WSO and he certainly hasn't read all the ones I've read that were a train wreck. So really, all those who are agreeing are just following blindly like sheep. :rolleyes:
          You are playing with words Suzanne ^^^, are you just being different to be different again? :p
          Anyway, my point was it's good to see that some newbies don't fall for the Hype, exaggerated claims of earnings, super duper methods etc...
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          • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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            Originally Posted by salegurus View Post

            You are playing with words Suzanne ^^^, are you just being different to be different again? :p
            Anyway, my point was it's good to see that some newbies don't fall for the Hype, exaggerated claims of earnings, super duper methods etc...
            lol ... first everyone is following blindly like sheep and now I'm just being different to be different.

            I'm glad that there are some newbies (too few actually) who don't fall for the hype and exaggerated claims, but I don't like broad brushes either and made up statistics.

            When I post a WSO, I don't post it with reviews. The reviews come of their own accord without giving away review copies. I only tried that once and most of the people who got review copies didn't bother to leave a review.

            It's fairly obvious that some reviews read very canned and I would ignore them completely. If the WSO goes on for pages, you can generally just jump to the last page and work forward for the real reviews that are unsolicited.

            That's exactly how I've found the "train wrecks" that I've seen and I've seen a lot of them.

            The fact is, if you're not the kind of person who is looking for the next shiny object and not the kind of person who is gullible and believes all the hype and fake claims, then there are a lot of really great WSOs out there. I've never bought the "method" WSOs or WSOs that have income claims. I stick to software, plugins, graphics, and courses on things I need to know more about and am rarely disappointed.
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  • Profile picture of the author Malcolm Thomas
    Because many people are given review copies which makes their review (generally) bias right off the bat.
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  • Profile picture of the author rmolina88
    I released my first WSO over a week ago and while the reception and sales have been incredibly positive, I've only gotten a small amount of negative feedback. I know I'm still going to see more of both sides as time goes on.
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  • Profile picture of the author JMac
    I hate to say it but the first few reviews never seem to tell the whole story. I tend to wait until there is a page or two of reviews before deciding to buy. I also google the product and look in other places too...
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    • Profile picture of the author sal64
      hmmm...

      This whole WSO argument is a bit like...

      Don't argue with idiots. Must see - YouTube
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      • Profile picture of the author PvPGuy
        Originally Posted by sal64 View Post

        hmmm...

        This whole WSO argument is a bit like...

        Don't argue with idiots. Must see - YouTube
        Ha! Ty for that. Illustrates your point beautifully.
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        • Profile picture of the author retirewithsandie
          Originally Posted by cortsmith View Post

          Why does every single WSO have overwhelmingly positive reviews? Surely, they're not all incredible, cant miss money making machines?
          As some have said above, there are plenty of negative reviews as well...you often have to dig to find them as they're buried deep in the thread or if you're lucky on the last page or two.

          I've reviewed several WSOs & have left negative feedback on several. One there were TONS of positive reviews, however, only me & one other gave some negative feedback.

          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          Simply not true. He hasn't seen every single WSO and he certainly hasn't read all the ones I've read that were a train wreck. So really, all those who are agreeing are just following blindly like sheep. :rolleyes:
          ^^that
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  • Profile picture of the author Jim35
    I don't fall for many and I have been disappointed a few times. If I give a review the seller better have a great product because I wouldn't lie about it. I have given reviews on a different forum and sometimes had to say it was garbage and I did feel bad but I was honest.
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    • Profile picture of the author LexiB
      I've only bought 1 WSO in my life and I didn't even download the product. I just wanted to test out the WSO Pro sales and delivery process before doing my WSO. With that said, I have gotten review copies of WSOs from people.

      My opinion is that, form the WSOs I've seen, there has always been something I can take out of it. Even if it's something as simple as how they structured the download page or something in the ebook design that I liked.

      Whenever you buy any type of information you have to be able to pick out the good points.

      The other thing I noticed with the whole WSO thing is that sometimes people seem to just be out for you personally for whatever reason. I had a person on my thread basically call me a liar because I said "a few thousand" then I said "$5,000". Problems with a product or questions is one thing but when people start to go to that level it's a little discouraging for everyone I think.

      I also think getting reviews done before you launch is extremely important. I need to know that my downloads work, the PDFs are in good shape, videos play, etc. And I also want to make sure that the content is GREAT. I think it's great because I created it but I want other opinions. IF the reviews come back bad, I'm not launching the product. Not because I don't want negative reviews, because I look at the negative reviews and try to improve the product so that the audience gets the best I can give. And yes, if the reviews come back good, they're going in the copy.
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert Montgomery
    I always take the reviews with a pinch of salt, I see many that come from the free review copies which I disregard as valid reviews for me to buy.

    Then what I class are premature reviews the ones that are from people that have bought the WSO and within an hour or 2 have already left a review saying things like "just bought this full of great information its a must for anyone wanting to make succeed online I will use this for sure" again these reviews I see as pointless its all well and good that there is "great information" but does it work as claimed in the WSO sales page?

    If the WSO says earn x amount a week I want to see more reviews from people saying that have actually earnt that x amount a week with proof unfortunately I don't see enough of these types of reviews when looking at WSO's so I usually pass and move on.
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