Does Article Marketing Still in Use?

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Hi,

I wanted to try Article marketing, i.e write articles for ezine and some other popular article sites with a link to my squeeze page. Does people are still using this method and is it working till today. I see Alexa Smith suggested me this long time ago, at that time my english was not so good enough for my article to get approved in ezine. Yesterday i noticed some of my articles got approved in ezine. So i would like to start article marketing. Should i go for this and write 3-5 articles daily and submit to ezine? Can i capture leads from ezine

Can anyone experienced in article marketing help me.
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  • Profile picture of the author jeffreyhuan
    Yes, it still works but is not as effective as before after Google's algorithm update.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ken Soszka
    Originally Posted by nocturnal911 View Post

    Hi,

    I wanted to try Article marketing, i.e write articles for ezine and some other popular article sites with a link to my squeeze page. Does people are still using this method and is it working till today. I see Alexa Smith suggested me this long time ago, at that time my english was not so good enough for my article to get approved in ezine. Yesterday i noticed some of my articles got approved in ezine. So i would like to start article marketing. Should i go for this and write 3-5 articles daily and submit to ezine? Can i capture leads from ezine

    Can anyone experienced in article marketing help me.
    Hi nocturnal,

    I have been considering some article marketing too, but from what I have read recently the Google Updates of the past year or so have really hurt article marketing, although I'm not sure exactly how or for what reasons.

    Maybe some forum members who are up to speed on this would care to comment?

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  • Profile picture of the author nocturnal911
    Ok, what about the people who already published thousands of articles. What methods are they using now to drive traffic to their squeeze pages?
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  • Profile picture of the author conanedo
    I'm not really sure article can get good rank at google now, but you can still get some traffic, just an idea you can change you article to pdf too and upload to doc sharing, my favorite are scribd.. i think my first clicbank sale form there
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    • Profile picture of the author trade4861
      Originally Posted by conanedo View Post

      I'm not really sure article can get good rank at google now, but you can still get some traffic, just an idea you can change you article to pdf too and upload to doc sharing, my favorite are scribd.. i think my first clicbank sale form there
      I publish content to my own article directory and rank on the first or second page with no problem, just depends on your writing quality.
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  • Profile picture of the author nocturnal911
    I am not talking about getting traffic from Google or backlinks, i've heard that publishing my article in ezine will get some good exposure and traffic. Is it ok to rely on Article marketing now a days?
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    • Originally Posted by nocturnal911 View Post

      I am not talking about getting traffic from Google or backlinks, i've heard that publishing my article in ezine will get some good exposure and traffic. Is it ok to rely on Article marketing now a days?
      As per the knowledge of internet after Google Updates, Articlee marketing is now not very popular. But you can always give it a try. You may never know what will work for whom. So all the best and go ahead with your plans.
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  • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
    Google figured the article directories out (laymen publishing "expert" articles, webmasters looking for backlinks, etc...). They don't get much SE traffic anymore. Another thing is that Google treats backlinks from places like EZA negatively. You actually get penalized.
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      Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot View Post

      Google figured the article directories out (laymen publishing "expert" articles, webmasters looking for backlinks, etc...). They don't get much SE traffic anymore. Another thing is that Google treats backlinks from places like EZA negatively. You actually get penalized.
      This is inaccurate. You do not get penalized unless you have spammy links, and a published article in ezine or most article directories DO NOT give you a penalty. However, most article sites do not pass any PR.

      Here's the story from the horse's mouth, Matt Cutts.

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  • Profile picture of the author nocturnal911
    But see this
    Ezinearticles.com Site Info

    It has about 448 Worldwide rank. That means a lot of traffic. If i publish some articles, will i not get any visits and optins?
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    • Profile picture of the author sanhal
      Some SEO people I know have recommended writing and submitting articles to directores for seo purposes.

      Submit 5 - 10 high quality articles a month to article directories, Web 2.0 and social sites that all link back to your site. Do not use article spinning for this.

      Link to those articles from profiles and social bookmark sites.

      That should help your article marketing efforts.

      Sandy
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  • Profile picture of the author challanger
    it is still effective but you have to be targeted... do targeted article marketing...
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  • Profile picture of the author nocturnal911
    Hi,

    But i am not looking for seo help here. I just want to make sure that whether list building is still possible with submitting articles to ezine?
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  • Profile picture of the author extravalue
    Diversity is the key in my IMO. You still have to grab some links from article directory if you have no links from article directory.
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  • Quality content will allways have its place on internet and therefor on Google as well. But the times when you just wrote x number of articles with the right combination of keywords to get ranked is over (or will be over soon). Write one article that truly helps people and it will not be that difficult to get ranked on it. Include statistics, quality sources, infographics etc and sure: article marketing works.
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  • Profile picture of the author himanuzo
    Article marketing is still working without the Google's SEO. You need to write a lot of articles then submit them to 5+ top article directories. e.g: 10 articles/day x 5 article direcotories x 30 days = 1500 articles per month. All articles must be unique in get max results for the approval.
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  • Profile picture of the author nocturnal911
    Has anyone still using this method?
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Can I just throw this out there before Alexa arrives?

      No one seems to have mentioned this side of article marketing.

      I know she doesn't use it for SEO at all. Like me, she wants her articles on sites that have lots of relevant traffic (Not EZA or an article directory, though I know she uses them for the purpose I'm about to mention).

      For example, if I write about dog training, I want it published on a dog training site, preferably with a lot of traffic. Some places will require 'unique' articles, some don't, either way, I never got any decent traffic from EZA. As for backlinks, I'd rather a traffic method I can control, rather than one that Google controls. I don't do article marketing for SEO.

      For those obsessed with SEO, even though Google shifts the goal posts daily, you also now have a nice relevant backlink from a relevant site, rather than an article directory.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by jeffreyhuan View Post

        Yes, it still works but is not as effective as before after Google's algorithm update.
        This is incorrect. Article marketing is actually more effective after Google's algorithm updates than it was before them. All the Panda updates of 2011/12, and Penguin update were helpful to article marketers.

        Over the last couple of years, there have been about 100 threads here full of posts from professional article marketers explaining in some detail how and why all those Google updates have helped us out (as Google updates always seem to).

        It's article directory marketing that isn't as effective (it was never very effective in the first place, though, because it was only ever based on a fundamental misunderstanding of how article directories work and what benefits they can and can't provide).

        Originally Posted by nocturnal911 View Post

        Should i go for this and write 3-5 articles daily
        No - definitely not.

        3-5 articles per day is far too many.

        I write 3 articles per month (per niche) and that's more than enough for all the content needs of my article marketing business.

        Article marketing isn't about how many articles you have. It's about who reads them.

        Nobody's who's writing 3-5 articles per day is producing the quality required, and nobody who does that has the time to get them published in the right places to attract the already-targeted traffic they need. Article directories are only an afterthought.

        Originally Posted by nocturnal911 View Post

        and submit to ezine?
        When you say "ezine", you mean the article directory called "Ezine Articles", I think? You're not actually asking about "ezines" at all? You can submit articles to EZA, of course, but make quite sure that you start off by understanding how article directories work, and don't try to draw your traffic from them, because not only doesn't that work, but it can even do your business a disservice rather than helping it!

        Originally Posted by nocturnal911 View Post

        Can i capture leads from ezine
        You could try, but it would be a big mistake. That isn't how article directories work.

        For all the reasons explained in this post, no article marketer wants to get his potential customer traffic coming to his site from an article directory (we all lose most of that traffic, and all of it's traffic which we could easily have arranged to have coming directly to our own site in the first place).

        Originally Posted by nocturnal911 View Post

        Can anyone experienced in article marketing help me.
        Yes, if you want to do quite a bit of reading! Start here: this post (and the links in it, which you also need to click on and read) explains in detail exactly how article directories work and how to use them): http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5068872

        And this is a kind of one-post overview of how article marketing works: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5035794

        If you want to see how I've built up my whole business on article marketing, start here (it's more or less how other successful article marketers have done it, also): http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5721774

        Originally Posted by Ken Soszka View Post

        from what I have read recently the Google Updates of the past year or so have really hurt article marketing
        No, this is completely wrong, Ken. It's "article directory marketing" that they've hurt, but that never worked very well anyway. All explained in the threads linked to above.

        Originally Posted by nocturnal911 View Post

        i've heard that publishing my article in ezine will get some good exposure and traffic.
        That has never been its purpose. That doesn't work. Publishing in EZA is a good and helpful thing to do, but not for exposure to customers or customer-traffic from EZA itself. That has nothing to do with why article directories are there, or how they should be used. The people trying to misuse them that way are all the ones starting off the threads with titles like "Is Article Marketing Dead?" (It is for them, because they don't know what they're doing, and they're trying to use article directories for objectives they can never serve, and were never even intended to provide. But what those people are all doing isn't actually "article marketing": it's only "article directory marketing").

        Originally Posted by nocturnal911 View Post

        Is it ok to rely on Article marketing now a days?
        Yes, "very ok": large and increasing numbers of Warriors are making our full-time livings from it. But you have to start by not confusing it with "article directory marketing" which is what many of the people posting above are mistakenly doing. That's why they all imagine that the Google updates were a bad thing, rather than the very good thing they actually were!

        Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot View Post

        Google treats backlinks from places like EZA negatively. You actually get penalized.
        This is nonsense.

        Originally Posted by sanhal View Post

        Some SEO people I know have recommended writing and submitting articles to directores for seo purposes.
        They simply have no idea what they're talking about, Sandy. They don't really even understand what an article directory is and what purposes it can serve. I suggest you ignore them completely and take your advice on the subject from people who are making a living from article marketing, not from people who (bizarrely) imagine that it has anything much to do with SEO.

        Originally Posted by himanuzo View Post

        You need to write a lot of articles then submit them to 5+ top article directories. e.g: 10 articles/day x 5 article direcotories x 30 days = 1500 articles per month. All articles must be unique in get max results for the approval.
        This is completely wrong, grotesquely misguided and just total nonsense. That's far, far more likely to damage your business than to help it. It's absolutely crazy. It was absolutely crazy even 5 years ago when it did actually have some theoretically possible benefits (it doesn't now). Nobody in their right mind should want to submit unique content to any article directory. http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...marketing.html

        Originally Posted by nocturnal911 View Post

        i willing to publish 10 articles a day in ezine with a link to my squeeze page. And after 1 month, i will be having around 300 articles published in ezine. Will i able to find any success with list building using ezine?
        Not using it that way, no - because that just isn't how it works. Anything you could do that way, you could do better and more efficiently attracting the traffic to your site rather than expecting to get customer-traffic/opt-in traffic coming to you from EZA. That's something you shouldn't want to do! The links above will explain the whole thing to you, in detail, but there's a lot of reading there.
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  • Profile picture of the author nocturnal911
    Hi,

    Thanks for the reply, but say like i willing to publish 10 articles a day in ezine with a link to my squeeze page. And after 1 month, i will be having around 300 articles published in ezine. Will i able to find any success with list building using ezine?
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  • Profile picture of the author nocturnal911
    Hi,

    Thanks for the reply Alexa. I have read all your threads which you mentioned above. But what i observed is take a look at here:
    EzineArticles Expert Authors

    I see many top ezinearticle authors quit publishing articles at the end of 2010 or later. I see they have a lot of articles got published earlier. Now they are not even publishing a single article in ezinearticles. Should i think that they are not getting any results with it. Or if they get results why would they stop it in middle?

    This is what pulling me back to go for article marketing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by nocturnal911 View Post

      I see many top ezinearticle authors quit publishing articles at the end of 2010 or later.
      Yes indeed: they were article directory marketers, not article marketers. They were trying to misuse article directories for purposes directories were never intended to fulfil in the first place, and from 2010-ish were totally unable to fulfil. Those people's entire business models were based on a fundamental misunderstanding of how article directories work.

      Originally Posted by nocturnal911 View Post

      I see they have a lot of articles got published earlier. Now they are not even publishing a single article in ezinearticles. Should i think that they are not getting any results with it. Or if they get results why would they stop it in middle?
      Yes - you're right to notice this and think about it. They were actually doing something very misguided and ill-informed and mistaken and not in keeping with the purposes and function of article directories even back then, but it did happen to work to some extent up until about 2009/10. It wasn't article marketing, anyway, even then!

      Originally Posted by nocturnal911 View Post

      This is what pulling me back to go for article marketing.
      That had nothing to do with article marketing.

      That was about article directory marketing. Nobody's suggesting you should try to do that! (Nobody who understands the difference between the two, anyway). :p
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by nocturnal911 View Post

      I see many top ezinearticle authors quit publishing articles at the end of 2010 or later. I see they have a lot of articles got published earlier. Now they are not even publishing a single article in ezinearticles. Should i think that they are not getting any results with it. Or if they get results why would they stop it in middle
      What do you think? Lots of articles pre 2010 and nothing after. What does that tell you? They were doing it lots before but suddenly stopped. Why would they stop publishing to EZA if it still worked?

      Sorry but where did she recommend you go down the article directory marketing route anyway?

      I'd have another look at what she wrote, she's not recommending you write lots of articles and publish them to EZA. She is saying the exact opposite.
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  • Profile picture of the author aerm85
    Do targetted articles and i'm sure you will have Traffic and conversions... Try to make 3 or 5 good articles per day and try to post every 2 o 3 hours. And you'll see the difference.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by aerm85 View Post

      Try to make 3 or 5 good articles per day and try to post every 2 o 3 hours. And you'll see the difference.
      Just a little tip for you: sometimes it helps to read the thread (i.e. not just the OP) before replying: in this case, much of the discussion above your post is explaining in some detail exactly why what you suggest is such a dreadfully misguided and inappropriate idea, and based only on a fundamental misunderstanding of what article marketing is.

      It's not about how many articles you have: it's about how widely published they are - and I don't mean in article directories! - and (therefore) who reads them.
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  • Profile picture of the author JMac
    If you are hoping for traffic to your website from Ezine, I think a lot of it depends on your niche. I have about 35 computer articles there and Ezine is always listed in the top ten traffic sources for my virus page. I have friends with other types of sites who get no traffic from Ezines. But like Alexa says, it is not really about getting traffic from Ezine.
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  • Profile picture of the author nocturnal911
    But, i still have some questions.

    Say for example: This author
    http://ezinearticles.com/?expert=Abhishek_Agarwal

    who had published over 7k articles. And according to alexa smith's recommended threads in this post, say he might wrote around 10 articles which are good. Don't i or you think that in his 8k posts not even 100 articles are not picked by the publishers who want relevant content for their blogs? And if they did so, he might get some targeted traffic to author link in the article from the blogs which republished EZA's article.

    But i don't understand onething, his posts might picked up by many publishers till today. But why did he stopped in the middle. He did the right thing what i wanted to do right now, I will write a good article with a link to my squeeze page. If my article is good enough the publishers who want content to their site might pick up my article and get it published in their sites with a link to my squeeze page or even my articles will send to many subscribers. This will eventually would have bought many optin's for him. But why did he stopped there after. I am not talking about that person, but many authors in EZA have stopped at some point having their articles published. I am confused with this.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by eedriyz View Post

      I'm almost seeing no result from my actions with the article directories these days
      That's because you're trying to use them for a purpose they're unable to fulfil.

      People who are using them for their intended purpose are seeing increasing success.

      Originally Posted by nocturnal911 View Post

      Don't i or you think that in his 8k posts not even 100 articles are not picked by the publishers who want relevant content for their blogs?
      Read them and judge for yourself whether they were written for syndication.

      If it's harder for you to judge this, I'll tell you: they weren't.

      No disrespect to Mr Agarwal, but the quality of his articles was such that the articles were unfit for article marketing. That's going to be true of almost all the people who submitted many thousands of articles there, and there are reasons for that.

      You're making my point for me. That author was clearly an article directory marketer, not an article marketer. (This is easy to see: anyone with 7,000 articles there can't be an article marketer!).

      Originally Posted by nocturnal911 View Post

      why did he stopped in the middle.
      I think it wasn't working for him, because he was trying to use article directories for purposes they can't possibly fulfil (and actually couldn't, even back then).

      Originally Posted by nocturnal911 View Post

      He did the right thing what i wanted to do right now
      Don't do it.

      It won't work.

      It has nothing to do with article marketing.

      Originally Posted by nocturnal911 View Post

      I will write a good article with a link to my squeeze page.
      EZA doesn't publish many of those. They'll say that the site linked to in your resource-box doesn't contain informative enough material for their readers. And they'll be right.

      That's article directory marketing. It isn't article marketing.

      It won't work.

      It won't help you.

      Sorry, but there's a limited number of ways I can say this, you know?

      Originally Posted by nocturnal911 View Post

      many authors in EZA have stopped at some point having their articles published. I am confused with this.
      That's because they were all trying to use EZA for a purpose which EZA wasn't able to fulfil.

      What they were trying to do was based only on a fundamental misunderstanding about how article directories work.

      It's exactly the same misunderstanding that you yourself also have
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      And the one you've mentioned, above, was clearly a good example of exactly that. It's easy to identify the people who are good examples of that: they all have absolutely enormous numbers of articles, because they imagined that "quantity" was somehow going to help them.

      It didn't, of course, so eventually they stopped doing it. Even though they didn't understand how article directories work and how to use them, and even though they wrongly imagined that what they were trying to do was "article marketing" (which it never was!), they certainly knew they weren't making any money from it!

      So they gave it up as a bad job, and some of them even came back here and started off threads with titles like "Article Marketing Doesn't Work Any More", because they still thought that what they'd so misguidedly been trying to do was "article marketing".

      Typically, they like to blame Google for "what happened". It's more comfortable for them to tell themselves that "Google's updates damaged article marketing" than saying "I screwed up completely because I don't understand how article marketing, and article directories, work". The huge irony of it is that all those Google updates were actually very helfpul indeed to those of us making our livings from article marketing!

      Article marketing isn't about how many articles you have. It's about how widely published they are and (therefore) who reads them.

      If you read this post (and post #2 in the same thread) you'll understand why it would be a huge mistake (just as it was for all those people years ago) to try to attract potential customer traffic to your squeeze page from large numbers of articles published in an article directory: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5075780
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  • Profile picture of the author eedriyz
    You're better off with web 2.0 these days. I'm almost seeing no result from my actions with the article directories these days
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  • Profile picture of the author WebPunch
    I have been submitting articles to differenet artilce directories and I dnt see any negative effect on my site.. The reason been simple that the quality of my article is high and when I have to submit it to like 100s of them I make sure I spun my article at atleast 90%+ unique..
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by WebPunch View Post

      I have been submitting articles to differenet artilce directories and I dnt see any negative effect on my site.. The reason been simple that the quality of my article is high and when I have to submit it to like 100s of them I make sure I spun my article at atleast 90%+ unique..
      Ok. Did you see a positive effect?

      I only ask as you've struggled to spell "article" so I'm a little concerned when you say your articles are of high quality. Then you mentioned spinning and I knew you were joking.

      But i don't understand onething, his posts might picked up by many publishers till today. But why did he stopped in the middle.
      They didn't stop in the middle of anything, they stopped at the end when it stopped working. Why just post to EZA in the hope of the article being picked up. Why not be proactive and actually approach sites, ezines and even offline publications. With all due respect, if you intend to sit there and wait for it to be picked up, you may want to consider something else.

      Sorry but this thread has gone on a while and I can see what Alexa is saying just isn't making sense. Also your confusion as to why someone wrote thousands of articles for EZA then stopped is getting a bit much. Forget the middle, it was the end.

      I know....do a test. Spend the next six months doing nothing but writing article after article after article and dumping them on EZA.

      Then, after, write less articles but of a much higher quality having searched and found some sites that are looking for content in your niche, see what their content is about and tailor it for them, then come back and tell us what you discovered.

      Also, if you find something that works and then, after a while it stops working for you, you can ask yourself the question "Why did I just stop doing that in the middle" and then you'll have your answer.
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  • Profile picture of the author nocturnal911
    Thank you alexa, but if my squeeze page is not going to accepted by ezine, then what link should i place in author's resource box? Should i place the clickbank url in the resource box?
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by nocturnal911 View Post

      Thank you alexa, but if my squeeze page is not going to accepted by ezine, then what link should i place in author's resource box? Should i place the clickbank url in the resource box?
      No, they won't allow that either.

      And you can't sell many ClickBank products without building a list, anyway: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7110523

      You shouldn't place anything in a resource-box, because you shouldn't have a resource-box, because you shouldn't be submitting articles to Ezine Articles for the purpose for which you intend to try to use it, because that isn't going to work. You yourself have noticed and correctly deduced that it didn't work for all those people back in 2009/10/11 and that they all stopped doing it, and I've explained why it didn't work for them, and why they all stopped doing it. And it's much, much more futile and pointless and difficult nowadays than it was when they all gave it up.

      Think again!
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  • Profile picture of the author jachu2
    I still do some article marketing with ezine articles. To be honest with you, the amount of clicks have dropped significantly in the last six months or so ever since these big algorithm changes by google. I would reccomend other forms of marketing such as paid traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author nocturnal911
    Hi,

    Again i was in confusion.

    Say here is what i am going to do.

    I choose a product correctly after reading this
    Selecting the product

    After that, i will write a well researched article of about 1000 to 1500 words and submit them to ezine and also post it in my blog.

    but here i am confused, as you said in the above placing a link to squeeze page in the resource box doesn't help at all for all the above mentioned people and so for me also it will happen. So i won't place a link in the authors resource box.

    But, how can i capture leads? How come targeted people visit my squeeze page as i am not placing my squeeze page link in the authors box but my article is getting syndicated in many sites, so how can they subscribe to my list for a free ebook or something?
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    • Profile picture of the author livo
      I used Article Marketing in my early days and used to receive lots of subscribers to my list but since the Google Panda update i feel it does not work quite as well.

      It still does work though
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      • Profile picture of the author nocturnal911
        Originally Posted by livo View Post

        I used Article Marketing in my early days and used to receive lots of subscribers to my list but since the Google Panda update i feel it does not work quite as well.

        It still does work though
        But alexa smith pointed a different approach how article directories to be used.. I am still waiting for her answer to my question.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by nocturnal911 View Post

      How come targeted people visit my squeeze page as i am not placing my squeeze page link in the authors box but my article is getting syndicated in many sites, so how can they subscribe to my list for a free ebook or something?
      This is how article marketers do that.

      Submission to Ezine Articles is a last-step afterthought designed solely to produce a little bit of further, passive syndication by people you haven't approached actively as potential publishers of your content.

      It isn't a business model in its own right.

      And to get any benefit from it at all, the articles need to be written for syndication in the first place.

      Nobody writing 3-5 articles per day is writing them for syndication. Sorry if it sounds arrogant, but I've been doing this as my full-time living for over 4 years, and I was a good writer even before that, and even I couldn't possibly write 3-5 articles per day, of the type needed for article marketing.

      People who imagine that they can do that are people who have a totally different conception of what an "article" is from an article marketer's perspective of what an article is and how it can bring you traffic. As you yourself have seen and commented on, the ones you can readily find are people who are no longer doing it (and I can tell you that the ones who are still doing it will eventually no longer be doing it, too, because they can't make a living from it or build a business from it, and there are understandable and logical reasons for that). The people who are writing articles of the type referred to in this post and this post, and putting them to the uses described in those posts, are the beneficiaries of article marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author nocturnal911
    Hi,

    I have read that post earlier, But see here i took a screenshot of it.



    In the above you mentioned that your article has got syndicated to many other sites with your link to your website. The targeted visitors click on that link from your article and comes to your blog and if they wanted your free book, they will subscribe to your list.

    But in this post you mentioned that squeeze page is not going to be accepted by EZA for having little or no content.

    See here is what i am going to do :

    Write 1000 to 1500 word article with lots of information and submit to EZA and my blog.
    I will write 1 article daily as it takes lots of research.
    If my article was well written, it will be picked by many other websites.
    But, should i place a link to my squeeze page in this article or not?
    If not, how the targeted people will know my website?
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by nocturnal911 View Post

      In the above you mentioned that your article has got syndicated to many other sites with your link to your website. The targeted visitors click on that link from your article and comes to your blog and if they wanted your free book, they will subscribe to your list.
      Yes; this is correct.

      That has nothing to do with EZA at all.
      It's the result of me running my article marketing business and arranging the syndication of my articles myself in the ways described and explained in that same post from which you're now quoting. If you read what I said there, you'll see that that happens before my article goes into Ezine Articles.

      Originally Posted by nocturnal911 View Post

      See here is what i am going to do :

      Write 1000 to 1500 word article with lots of information and submit to EZA and my blog.
      I will write 1 article daily as it takes lots of research.
      If my article was well written, it will be picked by many other websites.
      Well, you think that, and I think it won't.

      Sorry not to be able to agree with you, but you're imagining that passive syndication alone will work for you, and I think it won't.

      Originally Posted by nocturnal911 View Post

      But, should i place a link to my squeeze page in this article or not?
      I answered this question in post #29 and post #34 above.

      I appreciate that you didn't like the answer, and you wanted a different answer.

      Well, there are plenty of people posting in this thread who will give you different answers from the ones I'm giving you. (I replied to some of them in post #20 above.) But go with their answers, if you prefer them to mine.
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  • Profile picture of the author nocturnal911
    Hey Alexa,

    I am having really hard time understanding your posts. I am reading your posts again and again. But not able to get into a conclusion yet.

    Write 1000 to 1500 word article with lots of information and submit to EZA and my blog.
    I will write 1 article daily as it takes lots of research.
    If my article was well written, it will be picked by many other websites.
    Why passive syndication won't work for me? What else should i need to do? I can sit the whole day and do a lot of research and write a good article with lots of information. After then what i have to do? Submit to ezine? I will do that, but you are saying it will not help me for sure.

    If possible can you say it in few steps please..

    PS: Sorry for bothering you many times, but i am unable to understand this Article Marketing thing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by nocturnal911 View Post

      I am having really hard time understanding your posts.
      I'm sorry.

      Don't take this the wrong way, but that does make me wonder, a little, how you're going to get on with trying to write syndication-quality articles.

      Originally Posted by nocturnal911 View Post

      Why passive syndication won't work for me?
      I'll show you exactly how to find the answer to this (apart from in the posts above, I mean). Click on "Search" and then on "Advanced Search"; in the box on the top left, type the keyword "afterthought" and in the box on the top right put "Alexa Smith"; at the bottom left corner, change the setting from "threads" to "posts"; then search. The posts listed will tell you, in detail, everything you need to know about why it won't work for you.

      Originally Posted by nocturnal911 View Post

      What else should i need to do?
      You'd need to do active syndication, if this is a suitable business model for you at all. This. All the important parts of it, mentioned before the afterthought (there's that word, again!) of submitting articles to EZA.

      Originally Posted by nocturnal911 View Post

      i am unable to understand this Article Marketing thing.
      I see this. And I'm not sure whether it's a suitable business model for you. One thing I can tell you confidently, though: to have chances of making it work, you're going to need to try to do it in the ways described by all the posts/threads linked to higher up in this thread. Not just by "submitting your articles to EZA and hoping for the best".
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    • Profile picture of the author ijohnson
      Article Marketing is alive and well for those who know what they are doing. Creating great content and strategically placing it where it best serves the reader will render pretty good results for the article marketer.

      Trying to "game the system" should not be an option nor should it be what drives your creation of content.
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      • Profile picture of the author igg
        article marketing is still a viable option and can still yield impressive results. The key is to optimize your keywords,create an interesting title tag along with some great content :p.
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  • Profile picture of the author nocturnal911
    Got the answer.

    I need to go for active syndication mean which is described here:



    Am i correct what you mean? I hope this time i am right with what i am going to do.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by nocturnal911 View Post

      Am i correct what you mean?
      No.

      I don't understand why I can't seem to communicate with you successfully, today. Sorry. But sometimes all one can do in a conversation is keep saying the same thing over and over again, struggling for different words.

      The description of "active syndication" you've just quoted (in the post above) actually refers only to "following up passive syndicators and turning them into active syndicators". That's probably 2% of my syndication. It doesn't comment on the important 98% at all. So it's rather wide of the mark! (Who wrote that, anyway?).

      The process of active syndication is described in these two posts ...
      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5035794
      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7475055

      The point is that you're not going to get far, waiting for people to syndicate your articles before you contact them.

      Sorry, but I'm back to saying the same thing, again.
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  • Profile picture of the author Martin Avis
    To the OP: I hope I am not going to offend you, but in truth, although your use of English is not difficult to understand, it is still not really of a high enough standard for syndication. In order to get newsletter, website or blog publishers to want to publish your work, they will have to rate your writing in the top few percent.

    The kind of errors that you are showing in your posts here (not a problem in a forum setting, because we can all understand you fine) simply will not work if you are to be taken seriously as a professional writer.

    I hate to have to say it, but it is true.

    I don't know what your native language is, but is there an opportunity to write in that? The Internet is not just in English - I was looking at a category in ClickBank just yesterday and over half the ebooks availbale were in French, German, Italian and Spanish. Clearly that is a great opportunity for anyone fluent in those languages.
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  • Profile picture of the author nocturnal911
    Hi,

    Don't know whether i understood properly or not. But i read all your mentioned posts above.

    What i've observed is this

    Active syndication involves actually reaching out and offering your material to appropriate webmasters. The easiest way to accomplish this is to purchase a lifelong membership to the Directory of Ezines. It surely is one of the most valuable and under rated products for Internet Marketers around and definitely the most valuable product for building your syndication base.

    Also, be pro-active; expand your scope by seeking out likely places where it can be republished. Build a list of relevant search strings, for example:
    [niche keyword phrase] +”write for us”
    [niche keyword phrase] +”submit”
    [niche keyword phrase] +”author guidelines”
    [niche keyword phrase] +”writer guidelines”
    [niche keyword phrase] +”article submission”
    [niche keyword phrase] +”submit content”
    [niche keyword phrase] +”submit an article”
    [niche keyword phrase] +”author submission”
    [niche keyword phrase] +”article submission guidelines”
    Take a look at the content already published on the sites these searches uncover, and if you feel it matches your style, contact them with a sample of your writing.
    From here
    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ndication.html

    Is this what you mean by Active Syndication alexa?

    And whats with Directory of Ezines? Should i buy that product to get list of publishers who will accept my content.

    PS: Don't scold me for asking too many questions as i am confused with reading a lot posts here. If you really felt upset telling me, don't mind i will try to figure it myself.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by nocturnal911 View Post

      Is this what you mean by Active Syndication alexa?
      Yes!

      Part of it, anyway: that's one way of finding some potential webmaster-syndicators of your articles.

      Originally Posted by nocturnal911 View Post

      And whats with Directory of Ezines?
      That's a way of finding some ezine publisher-syndicators in your niche (that isn't actually the DoE's primary purpose, but it's one method, and can easily help with that).

      Here are others: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6575732

      And here: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7833719

      Originally Posted by nocturnal911 View Post

      Should i buy that product to get list of publishers who will accept my content.
      I'd wait until you know - from just a little bit of successful experience - that your articles are syndication-quality, before spending the $200 on it (I started off without it, myself).

      Originally Posted by nocturnal911 View Post

      PS: Don't scold me for asking too many questions as i am confused with reading a lot posts here.
      Sorry - I know.

      My concern (and Martin's, expressed above) is that this may well not be a suitable business model for you because it's really difficult to do, when it isn't your first language. Your articles need to be of the sort of quality that makes webmasters and ezine publishers sit up and pay attention and be so impressed that they want to share your content with their own readers/visitors/subscribers. I know I couldn't write well enough for that, in a language I don't quite speak fluently.
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