Why do all my attempts fail?

by ATTEK
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Hello Warriors.

My name is Tommy and I'm almost 20, I live in Sweden and I've working with customer support.

I've been here & BHW for 2 year, and some months ago i decided to try my own wings.

I've bought a few WSO'S, but nothing seemed to work, so i gave up since i didn't understand HOW i should succeed.

I need some extra cash beside my work, I'd be glad if i could do 20$ a day.

I have about 50-70$ that i can burn for a WORKING system, to get it going.

I don't want any haters with this message, i just need some tips, or guidance, or help.

What would you do if you had 50-70$ to start a working system? (remember that I'm a newbie)

Thank you, Tom
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  • Profile picture of the author larryboy03
    Originally Posted by ATTEK View Post

    Hello Warriors.

    My name is Tommy and I'm almost 20, I live in Sweden and I've working with customer support.

    I've been here & BHW for 2 year, and some months ago i decided to try my own wings.

    I've bought a few WSO'S, but nothing seemed to work, so i gave up since i didn't understand HOW i should succeed.

    I need some extra cash beside my work, I'd be glad if i could do 20$ a day.

    I have about 50-70$ that i can burn for a WORKING system, to get it going.

    I don't want any haters with this message, i just need some tips, or guidance, or help.

    What would you do if you had 50-70$ to start a working system? (remember that I'm a newbie)

    Thank you, Tom
    If I were you, id do deep research and find a hidden niche and make a blog. Then keep writing good content and turn the site into an authority for that niche.

    Its not as hard as you may think, if you can find a low comp niche and produce really high valuable content, you can generate a lot of traffic without link building at all.

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  • Profile picture of the author vickybabe
    Building a list is a really sustainable business model. I bought a course a few days ago that should really help you out to build a great list of buyers. Just do a search for lexiB, i am not affiliated with it, it is just a really great product
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  • Profile picture of the author a1pena
    Do you have a sqz page, a sales funnel, a free gift. My suggestion for any one that starts out it get a sqz page build, get a follow up sequence built with an autoresponder, on the back end sell something in your niche a cpa offer. Send traffic with a solo ad. you should be able to build a list quick, just keep reinvesting and building your list. \\

    Make sure you treat your list with respect and give them what they want in regards of content and products.
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    • Profile picture of the author ATTEK
      Originally Posted by a1pena View Post

      Do you have a sqz page, a sales funnel, a free gift. My suggestion for any one that starts out it get a sqz page build, get a follow up sequence built with an autoresponder, on the back end sell something in your niche a cpa offer. Send traffic with a solo ad. you should be able to build a list quick, just keep reinvesting and building your list. \

      Make sure you treat your list with respect and give them what they want in regards of content and products.
      Whoa, thanks mate for this answer

      I've read about this, the problem is that I'm so new so i don't got the information needed to do this, I don't know how. But I'm sure It's a great way though!
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  • Profile picture of the author TanyaRebrov
    By "working" you mean "able to give you passive income of $20 a day". Umm... I have this weird idea involving your skill as a customer support, I am sure you will be a great VA. Try online working desk, start your rate at $10 an hour. prove your capability, increase your rate by $5 each months and keep doing it until you learn a system that works from your employee. If they can hire you with that rate, I am sure you are more than capable to earn more than $20 a day after learning how the business of your client work.
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  • Profile picture of the author a1pena
    Also no matter what you do Tom, DO NOT GIVE UP!!!!

    I cant tell you how many times i have failed with internet marketing. But you must develope an unstoppable mindset and will succeed no matter the cost. Just bust your butt everyday, talk with people on here and do what works, Stay away from the shinny objects and take massive daily action!!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Chri5123
    Originally Posted by ATTEK View Post

    Hello Warriors.

    My name is Tommy and I'm almost 20, I live in Sweden and I've working with customer support.

    I've been here & BHW for 2 year, and some months ago i decided to try my own wings.

    I've bought a few WSO'S, but nothing seemed to work, so i gave up since i didn't understand HOW i should succeed.

    I need some extra cash beside my work, I'd be glad if i could do 20$ a day.

    I have about 50-70$ that i can burn for a WORKING system, to get it going.

    I don't want any haters with this message, i just need some tips, or guidance, or help.

    What would you do if you had 50-70$ to start a working system? (remember that I'm a newbie)

    Thank you, Tom
    Hey Tom,

    Welcome to the forum,

    My first piece of advice is stop buying systems, in fact don't buy anything to start with.

    Some work, some don't but you need to make the money to be able to spend it right.

    You will find plenty of help here, but let me know EXACTLY what you have tried in the past 2 years or your time in IM.

    How long have you worked on one project?

    Why do you think it failed? etc...

    In my experience, a lot of people that have trouble making money online will not stick with one thing for long enough.
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  • Profile picture of the author therealfactoid
    yea, I've had a similar experience for far more than 2 years, but i finally realised to just find something i'm driven to work at and find a way to turn it into a nice niche website or blog.

    I'm still not all the way where i need to be, but getting closer everyday.

    also a key for me has been sites like fiverr... they can really help with link building and PRs to get you traffic. cheap traffic has been a hang up for me until now.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnyEnglish
    Originally Posted by ATTEK View Post

    Hello Warriors.

    My name is Tommy and I'm almost 20, I live in Sweden and I've working with customer support.

    I've been here & BHW for 2 year, and some months ago i decided to try my own wings.

    I've bought a few WSO'S, but nothing seemed to work, so i gave up since i didn't understand HOW i should succeed.

    I need some extra cash beside my work, I'd be glad if i could do 20$ a day.

    I have about 50-70$ that i can burn for a WORKING system, to get it going.

    I don't want any haters with this message, i just need some tips, or guidance, or help.

    What would you do if you had 50-70$ to start a working system? (remember that I'm a newbie)

    Thank you, Tom
    Im in same shoes.. What im doing now is stop buying wso.. And focus on what im doing ( business that i believe i can build a long time business ).

    But you need to spend money to make money.. I asked someone made squeeze page, report, then buy solo ads.. I started build lists since this week.. Now i already have 150++ and growing list.. All from solo ads..

    So my next target is jump into solo ads business.. But i don't know how to do it.. lol

    But of course you need time to research on that.. Many free things you can get when you're in this forum..
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  • Profile picture of the author ATTEK
    I really appreciate these fast and awesome replies, thank y'all!
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  • Profile picture of the author TheInfoMarket
    A mistake that many newbies make is looking at Internet Marketing as the business. IM is just the tools that help build and grow your business.

    Focus on a niche.

    This could be a niche you already know about, or it could be something you are willing to learn about. But it does need to have a viable market. i.e. You can make a profit.

    Think about these questions:
    In the attempts you've made so far, what was your niche?
    Can you describe the business in one or two sentences?
    Why do you think it failed? Which part of the business let you down?

    Research your niche thoroughly. Don't take any shortcuts.

    Understand who your potential buyers are, and where they hang around online.
    Know your competition. Don't work on your business in ignorance.
    Setup a Google Alert, for the main keywords in your niche.

    Establish your online presence.

    Before you worry about creating a product or service, you should create an online presence. Make yourself known within your niche. This means using a personal blog, Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter etc. The important thing is you have first chosen a focused niche to work in and now can start developing money making strategies.

    Search online to learn the basics about:
    - List Building
    - Blog Creation (WordPress, Blogger etc.)
    - Squeeze pages & Landing pages
    - Product creation (ebooks, reports, video series or even physical products)

    There isn't really a "working system" as such, your success depends on good research, organisation and taking the right actions. There's no magic system that can guarantee results. In the same way you have to work hard building a resume and promote yourself to get a job, you have to do the same in starting a business.

    With $50-70, you can get the essentials such as a domain, hosting and email autoresponder.

    Write down a plan to give yourself something to aim for, enjoy working on your business and don't give up.
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    • Profile picture of the author ATTEK
      Originally Posted by TheInfoMarket View Post

      A mistake that many newbies make is looking at Internet Marketing as the business. IM is just the tools that help build and grow your business.

      Focus on a niche.

      This could be a niche you already know about, or it could be something you are willing to learn about. But it does need to have a viable market. i.e. You can make a profit.

      Think about these questions:
      In the attempts you've made so far, what was your niche?
      Can you describe the business in one or two sentences?
      Why do you think it failed? Which part of the business let you down?

      Research your niche thoroughly. Don't take any shortcuts.

      Understand who your potential buyers are, and where they hang around online.
      Know your competition. Don't work on your business in ignorance.
      Setup a Google Alert, for the main keywords in your niche.

      Establish your online presence.

      Before you worry about creating a product or service, you should create an online presence. Make yourself known within your niche. This means using a personal blog, Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter etc. The important thing is you have first chosen a focused niche to work in and now can start developing money making strategies.

      Search online to learn the basics about:
      - List Building
      - Blog Creation (WordPress, Blogger etc.)
      - Squeeze pages & Landing pages
      - Product creation (ebooks, reports, video series or even physical products)

      There isn't really a "working system" as such, your success depends on good research, organisation and taking the right actions. There's no magic system that can guarantee results. In the same way you have to work hard building a resume and promote yourself to get a job, you have to do the same in starting a business.

      With $50-70, you can get the essentials such as a domain, hosting and email autoresponder.
      Wow, thank you!
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by ATTEK View Post

    Why do all my attempts fail?
    Hard to say with confidence, but it's usually a combination - in various proportions - of ...
    • lack of skills/experience
    • trying to follow "systems" that don't work
    • jumping about and trying several different things without ever fully following-through on one activity and analyzing where and why it's going wrong, but just giving up on it instead and moving on to something different, whereupon the same pattern tends to repeat itself

    Originally Posted by ATTEK View Post

    What would you do if you had 50-70$ to start a working system? (remember that I'm a newbie)
    I'd start by choosing an appropriate and suitable niche and writing/producing a small PDF to give away as the "free report" to build a list. Then I'd get a domain-name and a subscription to GetResponse or Aweber (first month free/$1), put up a niche blog on my own hosting with three or four pages of content and the opt-in, and set to work driving non-SEO traffic to it, intending to monetize by promoting affiliate products (perhaps of the ClickBank type) by email. Every part of that involves some skills, of course.

    I spent less that $70 doing that, when I started.

    The common mistakes/disasters/accidents-waiting-to-happen I'd specifically avoid include ...
    • Using "hosted facilities" (Blogspot/Squidoo/HubPages)
    • Depending on SEO traffic/backlinks
    • Putting up a site without building a list from day one
    • Anything to do with "MMO/IM niches"
    • "Free autoresponders"
    Obviously, there's a lot more to it than just that, and a large variety of different skills are required, as well. But that's the "broadest, simplest overview" of what I'd do (and what I actually did): http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5721774
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    • Profile picture of the author Malcolm Thomas
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Hard to say with confidence, but it's usually a combination - in various proportions - of ...
      • lack of skills/experience
      • trying to follow "systems" that don't work
      • jumping about and trying several different things without ever fully following-through on one activity and analyzing where and why it's going wrong, but just giving up on it instead and moving on to something different, whereupon the same pattern tends to repeat itself



      I'd start by choosing an appropriate and suitable niche and writing/producing a small PDF to give away as the "free report" to build a list. Then I'd get a domain-name and a subscription to GetResponse or Aweber (first month free/$1), put up a niche blog on my own hosting with three or four pages of content and the opt-in, and set to work driving non-SEO traffic to it, intending to monetize by promoting affiliate products (perhaps of the ClickBank type) by email. Every part of that involves some skills, of course.

      I spent less that $70 doing that, when I started.

      The common mistakes/disasters I'd specifically avoid include ...
      • Using "hosted facilities" (Blogspot/Squidoo/HubPages)
      • Depending on SEO traffic/backlinks
      • Putting up a site without building a list from day one
      • Anything to do with "MMO/IM niches"
      • "free autoresponders"
      Obviously, there's a lot more to it than just that, and a large variety of different skills are required, as well. But that's the "broadest, simplest overview" of what I'd do (and what I actually did): http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5721774
      This is some solid advice that Alexa has just now given you. Purchase a domain name in a niche you have a passion for, purchase hosting, get a 1 month trial of a high level autoresponder, post up high quality content to your blog, drive FREE traffic to your site, and promote affiliate products to the people on your list. This is a blueprint to success online if you can follow through with it.
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    • Profile picture of the author greenowl123
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Hard to say with confidence, but it's usually a combination - in various proportions - of ...
      • lack of skills/experience
      • trying to follow "systems" that don't work
      • jumping about and trying several different things without ever fully following-through on one activity and analyzing where and why it's going wrong, but just giving up on it instead and moving on to something different, whereupon the same pattern tends to repeat itself



      I'd start by choosing an appropriate and suitable niche and writing/producing a small PDF to give away as the "free report" to build a list. Then I'd get a domain-name and a subscription to GetResponse or Aweber (first month free/$1), put up a niche blog on my own hosting with three or four pages of content and the opt-in, and set to work driving non-SEO traffic to it, intending to monetize by promoting affiliate products (perhaps of the ClickBank type) by email. Every part of that involves some skills, of course.

      I spent less that $70 doing that, when I started.

      The common mistakes/disasters/accidents-waiting-to-happen I'd specifically avoid include ...
      • Using "hosted facilities" (Blogspot/Squidoo/HubPages)
      • Depending on SEO traffic/backlinks
      • Putting up a site without building a list from day one
      • Anything to do with "MMO/IM niches"
      • "Free autoresponders"
      Obviously, there's a lot more to it than just that, and a large variety of different skills are required, as well. But that's the "broadest, simplest overview" of what I'd do (and what I actually did): http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5721774
      Extremely good advice above.

      I regret spending time making blogspot blogs to have them taken down for no apparent reason...

      I regret relying so much on SEO traffic (especially after the Penguin update hit).

      I am curious on why Alexa recommends to avoid the MMO / IM niches though..

      If you are reading this, Alexa, can you share why ? Too much competition ? Other niches more profitable ? Just curious...

      But yeah, she gave you EXCELLENT advice to get started. Take it !
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by greenowl123 View Post

        I am curious on why Alexa recommends to avoid the MMO / IM niches though..

        If you are reading this, Alexa, can you share why ? Too much competition ? Other niches more profitable ? Just curious...

        But yeah, she gave you EXCELLENT advice to get started. Take it !
        A combination of reasons ...

        Just my perspective, but I think that starting off, for beginning marketers, in IM/MMO niches is maybe the single commonest mistake made, and the single commonest reason for failing.

        They're really trying to "teach"/"advise" about something of which they have no successful experience at all, and have no credibility and little integrity in doing so.

        It's going to be impossible for them even to assess - themselves - which products are any good, so they can't even make very honest/personally informed recommendations.

        It's also desperately competitive.

        Then there's also the specific problem that promoting IM/MMO products from ClickBank (which so many people try, when they start!) is really very misguided, because it's a pretty sure-fire recipe for "not getting paid". I've been making a good living from ClickBank for years, and I won't touch those products, myself (I've tried some, unsuccessfully). There's one, specific really simple, really compelling reason, explained in this post: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7881396

        I also think that for most people, "selling to other newbie marketers" is about the least useful learning-curve one could select, on which to embark, but that's perhaps another matter ...
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  • Profile picture of the author SuperoMarketing
    Originally Posted by ATTEK View Post

    Hello Warriors.

    My name is Tommy and I'm almost 20, I live in Sweden and I've working with customer support.

    I've been here & BHW for 2 year, and some months ago i decided to try my own wings.

    I've bought a few WSO'S, but nothing seemed to work, so i gave up since i didn't understand HOW i should succeed.

    I need some extra cash beside my work, I'd be glad if i could do 20$ a day.

    I have about 50-70$ that i can burn for a WORKING system, to get it going.

    I don't want any haters with this message, i just need some tips, or guidance, or help.

    What would you do if you had 50-70$ to start a working system? (remember that I'm a newbie)

    Thank you, Tom
    Hi Tom,

    I would say to either go with the list building option through solo ads or focus on building mini niche websites and driving traffic to them with SEO.

    Either one of these is a great place to start in my opinion and they will both put you on the path to building a sustainable online business that you can continuously scale up.

    Wishing you the best,
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Originally Posted by ATTEK View Post

    Why do all my attempts fail?
    The answer lies in your question.

    "all"

    Just do ONE THING, and do it well.
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  • Profile picture of the author sabatek
    What is your niche? What are you marketing? What you should invest in depends on that. Are you looking for long term or short. There so many ways to go about it.
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  • Profile picture of the author WarrenPeterson
    Originally Posted by ATTEK View Post

    ...

    I have about 50-70$ that i can burn for a WORKING system, to get it going.

    ...
    First, understand that systems do not work. None of them. Systems/products/strategies/etc... are nothing more than information.

    To illustrate, here is a system:

    1) Design and build a restaurant that sells cheeseburgers, and keep changing the restaurant until it is running a a peak level.
    2) Fully document every single step of the operation.
    3) Open a second location to test out the documentation, and ensure the processes are running as projected.
    4) Franchise the model.
    5) Find and recruit franchise owners.
    6) Support the franchise owners.
    7) Rinse and Repeat

    There is the system that franchised burger joints use. Yes, I left out a few hundred more steps along the way, but I'm sure you get the point... And realize, this system doesn't make anyone a penny. However, those who fully invest and implement this system though are part of a group of people who have made many many billions....

    So realize that no system will ever make money - ever. What you choose to do with the information presented in a plan/strategy/system is what will dictate your earnings. And, what you need to do, should be tied to your skill set, your interests, your passions, and your level of dedication.


    You have enough to get a domain name and hosting, the rest is going to have to come from your own hard work and pursuit of your end goal.
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  • Profile picture of the author jamescanz
    Originally Posted by ATTEK View Post

    What would you do if you had 50-70$ to start a working system? (remember that I'm a newbie)
    50-70$ isn't exactly a ton of money to play with, which is why I would recommend doing things online that fit your budget.

    Is there anything you love doing in general? For example, writing, making videos, any hidden talents, etc.

    You can always find ways to monetize skills / talents you have to help out others, and Fiverr is a great place to do that.

    Besides that, elance.com, odesk.com, and guru.com are other great sites where you can get paid to do tasks for others.

    If you have a camera, or even a webcam, I'd recommend doing marketing via YouTube.

    CPA offers seem to convert well and the best part is that you can do it all for no-cost, to accommodate your budget.

    Granted, you might have to 'dig a little more' when it comes to video marketing info, but as the old saying goes...

    "When the student is ready ... the teacher arrives."
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  • Profile picture of the author shane_k
    Well here is my advice.

    1) Read Nightengales' response in this post here (post #66). This should give you some clarity

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-newbie-2.html

    And

    2) Check out this thread, there is a ton of options and possibilities here.

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...desperate.html
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    • Profile picture of the author Nightengale
      Originally Posted by shane_k View Post

      Well here is my advice: Read Nightengales' response in this post here (post #66). This should give you some clarity.
      Thank you Shane! I appreciate the recommendation.

      But first, I'd like to point something out:

      Listbuilding is NOT a business!!!

      I've seen people say "listbuilding" when asked for business model/niche recommendations. Building a list is a fundamental activity of ANY type of good direct response business, no matter what your business model or niche is.

      But IT IS NOT a business in itself! It is a marketing activity for ANY type of direct response business. (And such recommendations demonstrate a fundamental lack of understanding of direct response and Internet marketing in general.)

      Ok, here's my original post so you don't have to click over and scroll down:

      IM CAN be very confusing and overwhelming. Believe me, I know! Been there, done that.

      Clarity is a HUGE part of IM success. I hope this post brings some clarity. It's so simple when you know it -- and darn difficult when you don't! I owe my mentors a world of thanks for bringing this clarity.

      IM is actually pretty simple: you can sell only one of two things:

      1. Products
      2. Services

      That's it!

      And selling products or services online happens in the same basic way for everyone, no matter what they're selling:

      Traffic > Opt-in page > Autoresponder series (or e-zine) > Sales page

      That's it! It's just that simple. (We IMers tend to overcomplicate things.)

      But no matter what your niche is, or whether you're selling a product or a service, do you know what your business model is?

      A business model is the framework or skeleton of your business. Essentially there are three types of online business models:

      1. Membership-based model

      A membership-based business model allows you to build a community of people (your members) who are as passionate about your subject as you are. Your membership fees can be monthly or annual, but either way, you're building recurring, passive income.

      There are a lot of resources and information out there to help you build a membership-based business if you're interested in doing this.

      2. Product-based model

      Selling products allows you to maximize your time and effort by selling items over and over again. This can be hard goods or it can be information products. Information marketing is it's own business model under the product-based model. Information marketing allows you to take your brain to the bank by creating a product ONCE based on what you know and selling it over and over again.

      Affiliate marketing falls under both models. You can choose to market either products or services as an affiliate.

      3. Service-based model

      Selling services can be great for 1) generating quick cash (as in the case of article writing or video producing) and 2) establishing your expertise and getting testimonials.

      However, in the long run, your goal should be to offer services at a PREMIUM. The biggest advantage of IM is LEVERAGE. You're able to leverage your time, money and expertise exponentially online. We all have just 24 hours each day. Time to get ruthless about what you expect for those hours you spend in IM each day. Expect more of yourself and more from your business friends, clients, partners, etc.

      What results are you getting for those hours you spend online each day? Ultimately, your services should be at the bottom of your funnel and cost the most since they involve your time and personal attention. (We all have a limited amount of time each day.)

      The fun (and confusion) comes in with all of the endless mix-and-match possibilities of the above models. If you're just starting or still struggling to make money, keep it simple:

      Pick just ONE!

      1. Pick ONE niche. (Something you're interested in and know something about.)

      2. Pick ONE target market for your product or service. (Who will buy what you're offering? The more specific you are, the more you narrow it down, the more successful you'll be.)

      3. Pick ONE business model.

      Now that you're clear about what business you're in, FOCUS! (And stop buying any info not related to your niche and target market, period!)

      F -- Follow
      O -- One
      C -- Course
      U -- Until
      S -- Successful

      And remember: build a list, Build a List, BUILD A LIST!

      In IM, it's easy to put the cart before the horse. Take a deep breath, step back and consider what type of business you REALLY want. Don't worry about getting traffic or buying that expensive traffic product until you know 1) what your business model is, 2) what niche you're in and 3) WHO your target market is!

      Successful business people will tell you that MARKETING is more than half the effort that's needed for success anyway. So pick a niche, target market and business model. Then spend most of your time and effort marketing it.

      If you DON'T have a solid plan or system, THAT'S when it's hard. A good system will shave YEARS (and save you big $$$) off of your learning curve

      That's why I recommend investing in at least one good, comprehensive IM course (or mentor who will give you such a system) instead of jumping from one $37 e-book to the next. A lot of people here complain about not being able to make any money. But neither are they willing to invest in their business. (Buying a random bunch of $37 e-books doesn't count.)

      The best thing I ever did was invest in a comprehensive IM course aimed at REAL business owners, not just other IM wannabes. Yes it was $1500. (It's no longer available.) But it was truly some of the best A-Z IM info I ever bought. Everything else I've learned (from the $37 e-books) since has simply been plugged into this system.

      Get a solid plan or system and then work the plan!

      Hope this helps!

      Michelle
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      • Profile picture of the author ATTEK
        Originally Posted by Nightengale View Post

        Thank you Shane! I appreciate the recommendation.

        But first, I'd like to point something out:

        Listbuilding is NOT a business!!!

        I've seen people say "listbuilding" when asked for business model/niche recommendations. Building a list is a fundamental activity of ANY type of good direct response business, no matter what your business model or niche is.

        But IT IS NOT a business in itself! It is a marketing activity for ANY type of direct response business. (And such recommendations demonstrate a fundamental lack of understanding of direct response and Internet marketing in general.)

        Ok, here's my original post so you don't have to click over and scroll down:

        IM CAN be very confusing and overwhelming. Believe me, I know! Been there, done that.

        Clarity is a HUGE part of IM success. I hope this post brings some clarity. It's so simple when you know it -- and darn difficult when you don't! I owe my mentors a world of thanks for bringing this clarity.

        IM is actually pretty simple: you can sell only one of two things:

        1. Products
        2. Services

        That's it!

        And selling products or services online happens in the same basic way for everyone, no matter what they're selling:

        Traffic > Opt-in page > Autoresponder series (or e-zine) > Sales page

        That's it! It's just that simple. (We IMers tend to overcomplicate things.)

        But no matter what your niche is, or whether you're selling a product or a service, do you know what your business model is?

        A business model is the framework or skeleton of your business. Essentially there are three types of online business models:

        1. Membership-based model

        A membership-based business model allows you to build a community of people (your members) who are as passionate about your subject as you are. Your membership fees can be monthly or annual, but either way, you're building recurring, passive income.

        There are a lot of resources and information out there to help you build a membership-based business if you're interested in doing this.

        2. Product-based model

        Selling products allows you to maximize your time and effort by selling items over and over again. This can be hard goods or it can be information products. Information marketing is it's own business model under the product-based model. Information marketing allows you to take your brain to the bank by creating a product ONCE based on what you know and selling it over and over again.

        Affiliate marketing falls under both models. You can choose to market either products or services as an affiliate.

        3. Service-based model

        Selling services can be great for 1) generating quick cash (as in the case of article writing or video producing) and 2) establishing your expertise and getting testimonials.

        However, in the long run, your goal should be to offer services at a PREMIUM. The biggest advantage of IM is LEVERAGE. You're able to leverage your time, money and expertise exponentially online. We all have just 24 hours each day. Time to get ruthless about what you expect for those hours you spend in IM each day. Expect more of yourself and more from your business friends, clients, partners, etc.

        What results are you getting for those hours you spend online each day? Ultimately, your services should be at the bottom of your funnel and cost the most since they involve your time and personal attention. (We all have a limited amount of time each day.)

        The fun (and confusion) comes in with all of the endless mix-and-match possibilities of the above models. If you're just starting or still struggling to make money, keep it simple:

        Pick just ONE!

        1. Pick ONE niche. (Something you're interested in and know something about.)

        2. Pick ONE target market for your product or service. (Who will buy what you're offering? The more specific you are, the more you narrow it down, the more successful you'll be.)

        3. Pick ONE business model.

        Now that you're clear about what business you're in, FOCUS! (And stop buying any info not related to your niche and target market, period!)

        F -- Follow
        O -- One
        C -- Course
        U -- Until
        S -- Successful

        And remember: build a list, Build a List, BUILD A LIST!

        In IM, it's easy to put the cart before the horse. Take a deep breath, step back and consider what type of business you REALLY want. Don't worry about getting traffic or buying that expensive traffic product until you know 1) what your business model is, 2) what niche you're in and 3) WHO your target market is!

        Successful business people will tell you that MARKETING is more than half the effort that's needed for success anyway. So pick a niche, target market and business model. Then spend most of your time and effort marketing it.

        If you DON'T have a solid plan or system, THAT'S when it's hard. A good system will shave YEARS (and save you big $$$) off of your learning curve

        That's why I recommend investing in at least one good, comprehensive IM course (or mentor who will give you such a system) instead of jumping from one $37 e-book to the next. A lot of people here complain about not being able to make any money. But neither are they willing to invest in their business. (Buying a random bunch of $37 e-books doesn't count.)

        The best thing I ever did was invest in a comprehensive IM course aimed at REAL business owners, not just other IM wannabes. Yes it was $1500. (It's no longer available.) But it was truly some of the best A-Z IM info I ever bought. Everything else I've learned (from the $37 e-books) since has simply been plugged into this system.

        Get a solid plan or system and then work the plan!

        Hope this helps!

        Michelle
        Thank you so much for this reply, It means a lot
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  • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
    so i gave up
    So you gave up and you're not sure why you failed? Of course you failed if you stopped trying there wasn't anything else that could have happened.
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  • Profile picture of the author isabelruiz305
    Tommy, #1 giving up is not an option. You just started. #2 lets NOT talk about the problems, lets talk about the solution.

    So let me just make sure I understand. You want to make an extra $20 a day.
    Do you have a product?
    Are you looking for traffic?
    How new are we talking about here?
    What exacting have you done for training so far?

    Talk to me. I need specifics to be able to help you.
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    Maybe you are committing the error I mentioned at http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...m-because.html

    You are focusing the BULK of your time on stuff that don't produce much results. Flip it and get better results. I spelled out a STEP BY STEP way to do this.
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    Maybe you are committing the error I mentioned at http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...m-because.html

    You are focusing the BULK of your time on stuff that don't produce much results. Flip it and get better results. I spelled out a STEP BY STEP way to do this.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gengis
    You've only been at it a few months.. DO NOT GIVE UP NO MATTER WHAT.

    Fiverr is a very easy way to get started online as well as Ebay.. I started making money with ebay when i was like 19 and loved it.. I can't sell these days on their because of their policies protecting only buyers i've gotten screwed a few times and finally got banned from selling..

    But while it was alive, i always generated atleast a few hundred monthly with ebay..

    With Fiverr it's extremely easy in my opinion.. I went on there over a year ago and made over $250 my first month but i made a decision to make it work.. What i did was look at people making money and copied some of the gigs i knew i can provide but made them look nicer and with nicer descriptions.

    The bottom line is you need to sit down and figure out what exactly you can provide to the market then taking action to put it out there so people can buy it and it will happen.

    Don't give up!
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  • Profile picture of the author ATTEK
    Thanks a lot for the help, It gave me a lot of inspiration and motivation!
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  • Profile picture of the author BrainCopy
    Thomas Edison's teachers said he was "too stupid to learn anything." He was fired from his first two jobs for being "non-productive." As an inventor, Edison made 1,000 unsuccessful attempts at inventing the light bulb. When a reporter asked, "How did it feel to fail 1,000 times?" Edison replied, I didn’t fail 1,000 times. The light bulb was an invention with 1,000 steps. Never Quit!
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  • Profile picture of the author StevenJones
    Tommy do you think getting send to different stuff - that's all over the place - will help you? A lot of good intentions.. But as the saying goes.. ''The road to hell is paved with good intentions".

    Seems there is also a 'mindset' problem. As you gave up. An entrepreneur always finds a way, Tommy.

    $50 - $75 is something you can start with.. But would that be an entire budget? I mean is that a monthly budget? Or your last shot? Is this something you can invest weekly?
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  • Profile picture of the author GuruGuna
    Build a list.

    Find Your Product you want to promote. Build your System. Promote It.

    and make sure It works before you jump on to something else. you have to stick to one thing. many fail because they do not stick to one thing.
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    • Profile picture of the author StevenJones
      Originally Posted by GuruGuna View Post

      Build a list.

      Find Your Product you want to promote. Build your System. Promote It.

      and make sure It works before you jump on to something else. you have to stick to one thing. many fail because they do not stick to one thing.
      Yes please take the advice from someone that's earning $750,000 a year.. WAIT! WHAT.. Sharing it for FREE.

      Perhaps this is something Tommy can use?

      Please note the sarcasm.
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  • Profile picture of the author typoo999
    Keep it simple, try to sell services! You can easily outsource it if you want! Don't know what to offer? Check out buy/sell threads on forums!
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  • Profile picture of the author mootonandy
    "Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up" - Thomas Edison.

    BELIEVE IN IT!
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