Video - Powerpoint, Camtasia GoTo Webinar or something else?

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Sure some of you have put training type videos together - I have pulled together a large slide presentation on powerpoint and narrated over the slides. Is this the best way?? I know some people use record facility on gotowebinar and some use other sources.

Appreciate if you have some knowledge around this as to the most efficient way to create 10 x 30 minute videos.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Generally, you want to record the audio first, load it into Powerpoint (or any video program, for that matter), then sync the video with the audio.
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      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Generally, you want to record the audio first, load it into Powerpoint (or any video program, for that matter), then sync the video with the audio.
      Hmm, I'm not sure why you would bother going through that process. Camtasia has a Powerpoint plugin built right into it. You can fire up your Powerpoint Presentation and then record it along with your audio in one go. Trying to synch things later can often be a nightmare. Just record them together since programs like Camtasia make it drop dead simple to do exactly that.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kurt
        Originally Posted by WillR View Post

        Hmm, I'm not sure why you would bother going through that process. Camtasia has a Powerpoint plugin built right into it. You can fire up your Powerpoint Presentation and then record it along with your audio in one go. Trying to synch things later can often be a nightmare. Just record them together since programs like Camtasia make it drop dead simple to do exactly that.
        First, I didn't assume the OP had Camtasia. Second, tell it to the pros, who record audio first, then sync the video to the audio.

        Recording both together will work for simple screen capture videos, but try doing it that way for even simple animated videos, let alone animations that are more complex.

        And you can record the audio using Audacity (free), load the audio right into Powerpoint, sync your animations around the audio to enhance the content of the audio, then export as video. No need for Camtasia.
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        • Profile picture of the author WillR
          Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

          First, I didn't assume the OP had Camtasia.
          He mentioned Camtasia in the thread title so I assume it was one of the options he is looking into.

          Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

          Second, tell it to the pros, who record audio first, then sync the video to the audio.
          If you are creating any type of animated video then the last place you would want to be doing that is inside of Powerpoint. Yes, that's exactly right. But your original post was referring to Powerpoint type videos which is why I said exactly what I said.

          Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

          Recording both together will work for simple screen capture videos
          Correct. Exactly as I said. And since the OP said he is trying to create training videos with powerpoint and audio, then the animated videos don't really come into this so recording things together inside of Powerpoint using Camtasia is basically the simplest way to get this done. I've done plenty of them myself exactly like this.
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          • Profile picture of the author Kurt
            Originally Posted by WillR View Post

            He mentioned Camtasia in the thread title so I assume it was one of the options he is looking into.
            Yep. So what? You assumed it, I didn't.

            If you are creating any type of animated video then the last place you would want to be doing that is inside of Powerpoint. Yes, that's exactly right. But your original post was referring to Powerpoint type videos which is why I said exactly what I said.
            PP has tons of animations available, including text, fly-ins, etc. Based on your comment in bold, I'll just assume you don't know how to take advantage of them. See the videos below for some ideas.

            If someone isn't going to take advantage of the animation options offered in PP, then they may as well use Paint/Photoshop and create static slides and import them into a number of free slideshow programs, such as Windows Movie Maker or DVD slideshow GUI.

            Correct. Exactly as I said. And since the OP said he is trying to create training videos with powerpoint and audio, then the animated videos don't really come into this so recording things together inside of Powerpoint using Camtasia is basically the simplest way to get this done. I've done plenty of them myself exactly like this.
            Again, if you don't use the animation features PowerPoint offers, why even use it instead of static "slides" created using any graphics program such as Paint, Photoshop or Gimp?

            The "simpliest" way I've found is to do just that, static jpg "slides" imported into DVD Slideshow GUI.

            And again, you don't need Camtasia.

            Will said, "If you are creating any type of animated video then the last place you would want to be doing that is inside of Powerpoint. Yes, that's exactly right."

            Here's a few videos to show those with an open mind what can be done using PowerPoint for animation.

            In this video, we find an impressive animated video created with PowerPoint, along with a voice over. I promise the audio was recorded first for this, then the animations synced to the voice-over.


            This is a GREAT tutorial first posted by a member of the High Voltage Video forum a few weeks ago showing how to use Powerpoint to create kinetic (animated) text:


            Here's a video that shows some of the animation features of PowerPoint. As anyone can see, PowerPoint even has a tab that says "Animations":

            This video doesn't have a voice over, so in this case you'd do the animations first, then add the sound efx after:
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            • Profile picture of the author Ollie Pilgrim
              Snagit is another good program for video screen capture. Its by the same guys who make Camtasia but doesn't have a lot of the editing features that Camtasia does. However, after you've recorded your screen capture in Snagit and saved the file as an an mp4, you can then import the file into a free video editing program like Avidemux where you can cut out the unwanted parts of the file, silences, umms and ahhs etc. It's by no means as easy as editing in Camtasia but a much cheaper option to if your on a budget.
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              • Profile picture of the author barry500
                Hey guys

                Thanks again, as it happens - right now this all sits on powerpoint - and I was looking for advice on best methodology.

                Appreciate what you say Kurt, like WillR in my head it looks simpler to have a set of slides and then start talking as I click through them, putting me in control of how long each slide remains . But that may well just be what I understand whereas if I created the video and then tried to sync my voice do I not run the risk of slide jumping as I race to finish a sentence?

                Once complete though I have 100 slide presentation. Just wonder how I make that into bit size chunks of video / best platform.

                Also before asking about video forum I should have seen your link, looks great - I'm in.

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                • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
                  Originally Posted by barry500 View Post

                  But that may well just be what I understand whereas if I created the video and then tried to sync my voice do I not run the risk of slide jumping as I race to finish a sentence?
                  There are 2 ways to handle this.

                  You can create the slides first, and use screen capture software to record while you manually change slides while talking through your presentation.

                  Or, you could do audio first, and this will determine your slide durations.

                  I personally prefer the first mentioned as If I have to pause or re-say a sentence it is easier for me to straight cut spots out than to sync - but that is personal preference.
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                • Profile picture of the author WillR
                  Originally Posted by barry500 View Post

                  Appreciate what you say Kurt, like WillR in my head it looks simpler to have a set of slides and then start talking as I click through them, putting me in control of how long each slide remains . But that may well just be what I understand whereas if I created the video and then tried to sync my voice do I not run the risk of slide jumping as I race to finish a sentence?
                  Yep, I agree with Jill.

                  It's definitely much easier to just record the video of slides and audio at the same time. There is absolutely no reason to do them separately. It's just creating more unnecessary work for you. I always record those videos inside of powerpoint using the Camtasia plugin. Piece of cake.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
                    Originally Posted by WillR View Post

                    Yep, I agree with Jill.

                    It's definitely much easier to just record the video of slides and audio at the same time. There is absolutely no reason to do them separately. It's just creating more unnecessary work for you. I always record those videos inside of powerpoint using the Camtasia plugin. Piece of cake.
                    You keep saying this, despite it being proven wrong. I showed you plenty of animated PP presentations where your way would be virtually impossible, contrary to your claims that there was no need to use Powerpoint for animations, which is pretty funny actually.

                    Not to mention, what if you want to outsource the voice over? That isn't a valid reason to do them seperately?

                    BTW, if you read my first post, I said "in general", which doesn't mean all the time. For simple PP presentations where you click to move the slides manually each time, your way is fine. However, it won't work if you want more sophisticated animations, which many clients want now-a-days.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Marty S
                      Originally Posted by barry500 View Post

                      Appreciate if you have some knowledge around this as to the most efficient way to create 10 x 30 minute videos.
                      I am wondering what this is for? 30 minutes of a slide presentation in video form is normally an awesome cure for insomnia. If it is just a lecture for example, I could see it being acceptable, as students/associates would be "forced" to watch it for content.

                      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

                      Generally, you want to record the audio first, load it into Powerpoint (or any video program, for that matter), then sync the video with the audio.
                      Normally yes, agreed. Especially when a lot of visual editing is required.

                      Originally Posted by barry500 View Post

                      But that may well just be what I understand whereas if I created the video and then tried to sync my voice do I not run the risk of slide jumping as I race to finish a sentence?

                      Once complete though I have 100 slide presentation. Just wonder how I make that into bit size chunks of video / best platform.
                      Editing the timing of your slides is MUCH easier than trying to time your voice over to visual effects, especially doing it on the fly. But as noted above, if you persist in making your videos that long AND you can speak fairly fluently, recording your voice over the slides is probably better.

                      Originally Posted by WillR View Post

                      It's definitely much easier to just record the video of slides and audio at the same time. There is absolutely no reason to do them separately. It's just creating more unnecessary work for you.
                      Hi Will. I can think of a dozen reasons to record audio separately in like 99% of video productions, but if this works for you then great. I would say most people trying to do this will create a clumsy, irritating video with a horrid amount of verbal miscues and stumbles - myself included.
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                      • Profile picture of the author barry500
                        Marty

                        Not a lecture per se but personal/company training - there is a PDF workbook which user should be filling out as presentation runs. I think it
                        has a more cogent feel than me standing in front of a whiteboard.

                        Just going to check your link - first time doing a video so open to ideas etc.

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                        • Profile picture of the author barry500
                          Three minutes in very cool Marty...


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                          • Profile picture of the author WillR
                            Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

                            You keep saying this, despite it being proven wrong. I showed you plenty of animated PP presentations where your way would be virtually impossible, contrary to your claims that there was no need to use Powerpoint for animations, which is pretty funny actually.
                            Kurt,

                            In forum threads what I like to do is to respond to the question that has actually been asked by the OP. I find it helps them much better. So in this instance if someone is saying...

                            "I have pulled together a large slide presentation on powerpoint and narrated over the slides"

                            Then I will respond and give them the best advice for the question they are asking. No one ever mentioned animations in the original question. So for this person to record a simple powerpoint with voice they are much easier to do it all at the same time.

                            I have done this plenty of times over. Thanks all the same.

                            Originally Posted by Marty S View Post

                            Hi Will. I can think of a dozen reasons to record audio separately in like 99% of video productions, but if this works for you then great. I would say most people trying to do this will create a clumsy, irritating video with a horrid amount of verbal miscues and stumbles - myself included.
                            Please see above.

                            Let's stick to the question that was ACTUALLY being asked here.

                            Kurt mentioned animations. No one else did... certainly not the OP who asked the question.
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                            • Profile picture of the author Marty S
                              I think my responses were quite relevant.

                              I like to help too and hope the OP thinks so.
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                            • Profile picture of the author Kurt
                              Originally Posted by WillR View Post

                              Kurt,

                              In forum threads what I like to do is to respond to the question that has actually been asked by the OP. I find it helps them much better. So in this instance if someone is saying..
                              So do I. I suggest you reread the thread and see my first post was directed to the OP. It was YOUR comments that I had to correct. Comments like not using PP for animations. I'll remind you ONE MORE TIME what you said:

                              If you are creating any type of animated video then the last place you would want to be doing that is inside of Powerpoint. Yes, that's exactly right. But your original post was referring to Powerpoint type videos which is why I said exactly what I said.
                              You were so confident about your point of view. Too bad you were also WRONG. FACTUALLY WRONG. But you simply can't admit it.

                              I also like to help others that may read the thread and didn't have a specific question. I bet a few of them appreciated the videos I posted, showing some of the things that can be done with PP. Too bad you didn't find any value in them.

                              "I have pulled together a large slide presentation on powerpoint and narrated over the slides"
                              Good for you.

                              Then I will respond and give them the best advice for the question they are asking. No one ever mentioned animations in the original question. So for this person to record a simple powerpoint with voice they are much easier to do it all at the same time.

                              I have done this plenty of times over. Thanks all the same.
                              Another correction. You will give them what, in your opinion, you THINK is the best advice.


                              Let's stick to the question that was ACTUALLY being asked here.

                              Kurt mentioned animations. No one else did... certainly not the OP who asked the question.
                              Who died and made Will the king of this thread?

                              And Will, you may want to follow your own advice. I brought up animation in passing, as I didn't assume (like you) that the OP wouldn't be using them. It is your lack of understanding about the power of Powerpoint that has lead to much of my posting on this thread.


                              BTW Will, your last posts aren't helping the OP, they are trying to prove yourself correct.

                              If you are going to give bad advice, such as:
                              If you are creating any type of animated video then the last place you would want to be doing that is inside of Powerpoint.
                              ...don't complain when I (or others) correct you, and then claim I am being off-topic.
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                              • Profile picture of the author NathanZad
                                I have done a few video sales letters and made a few video training courses in my day.

                                My opinion based on the work I've done is this:

                                If you've got a script that you want to stick to, whether for brevity or for impact, record the audio first until you've got it just the way you want it. Then do the slides (with or without animations), and sync the slides to the audio. You'll get a tight video that moves along nicely.

                                If you plan to go 'off script' because you know your subject well and can provide extra value without stumbling over your words too much, do the slides and audio together. This will be looser and longer, but will allow you to ad-lib and is less labour intensive.

                                Hope it helps.

                                PS. If you're on a Mac, you can use Quick Time to record your screen as you cycle the PPT slides.
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                                • Profile picture of the author Marty S
                                  Originally Posted by NathanZad View Post

                                  PS. If you're on a Mac, you can use Quick Time to record your screen as you cycle the PPT slides.
                                  Decent tip, except you will still need editing software to complete the video. I suppose if you are really on a budget you could then transfer it to iMovie, but it lacks a lot of screencasting features for tutorial type productions.
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                                  • Profile picture of the author Gonzosan
                                    I use Camtasia for Mac and I love it. I do video training videos for game design so I need a screen capture program. If you're doing a mostly text based presentation then Powerpoint would definitely be good just spruce it up a bit with some nice background images. I don't see why PP wouldn't be a good setup for you unless you're doing tutorials on using certain software in which case using Camtasia would be a much better option.
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                                    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
                                      Originally Posted by Marty S View Post

                                      I would say most people trying to do this will create a clumsy, irritating video with a horrid amount of verbal miscues and stumbles - myself included.
                                      [Raises hand and waves]

                                      I'm most certainly an "um" queen. But knowing this, I'm a video chop queen as well.

                                      10 x 30 minute videos - that is a LOT of video and I would say a project worth investing in camtasia or screenflow (depending on what operating system you've got). But I'm jaded. I started years ago with learning final cut pro long before I even touched a powerpoint slide.

                                      I have pulled together a large slide presentation on powerpoint and narrated over the slides.
                                      In the end it boils down for what works best for you, your budget, and best quality you can put out.

                                      I am wondering what this is for? 30 minutes of a slide presentation in video form is normally an awesome cure for insomnia.
                                      LOL.

                                      A good argument for adding some fun animation or something to liven it up.

                                      I spent a fair amount of time doing continuity and script supervision for film.

                                      And I was able to translate that quickly in broadcast school for a radio project.

                                      We had to do a live radio show of some kind. I wrote a script about an unknown super hero named Sugar Plum Bob. His secret power was the ability to see through underwear so he could tell if the bad guys were hiding weapons.

                                      Anyway, we needed to liven up our radio show by incorporating some sound effects. While this could be done live, I had figured out the timing of the written script and created a full background tape to play in the background so we could all focus on just reading our lines.

                                      It worked out really well in that the guy on the controls didn't have to flip the sound carts in and out and worry about any timing or forgetting to put a sound in while he had to read lines too.

                                      There is a bit more prep work involved when you want to up the presentation value of any show.

                                      I don't know Barry500's niche - but I do have to agree with Marty that 30 minutes of video with just slides and someone talking could be a bit risky.

                                      On the flip site I'm in a program that puts out 2 hour and sometimes longer webinars - but they are on subjects I want to learn about so I do force myself to hear them out.

                                      Some of those are completely slide driven - but the slides often include some pictures to illustrate things.

                                      The shows are incorporated with some personal life stories, and while I'm sure there was some planning and an outline done, the person is most definitely not reading from a script.

                                      Something else that is a draw on those too is that they are initially recorded live. Even when I am only able to watch on re-play, I have the feeling like I'm not completely alone in the room with the presenter when listening.
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                              • Profile picture of the author WillR
                                Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

                                So do I. I suggest you reread the thread and see my first post was directed to the OP. It was YOUR comments that I had to correct. Comments like not using PP for animations. I'll remind you ONE MORE TIME what you said:
                                Ask any decent animator that does true animation videos and the last place they will ever tell you to do animation type videos is inside Powerpoint. Check out my signature and you will see a number of very professional animated videos. They are created in programs much more substantial than Powerpoint. I am not talking about a piece of text sliding from one side to the other. I am talking about truly animated videos with animated graphics.

                                Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

                                Too bad you were also WRONG. FACTUALLY WRONG. But you simply can't admit it.
                                I wasn't wrong about anything I said. True animation would never be done inside Powerpoint. I still stand by that point. I've had plenty of these videos created. I know exactly what I am talking about.

                                Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

                                BTW Will, your last posts aren't helping the OP, they are trying to prove yourself correct.

                                If you are going to give bad advice, such as:

                                ...don't complain when I (or others) correct you, and then claim I am being off-topic.
                                I am giving advice based on real experience. I am not trying to get anyone to join my video forum. I've got nothing to gain by giving my advice. It's free.

                                Anyway, the OP now knows that they can record their slide and audio video inside Powerpoint using the Camtasia plugin and that's the easiest way to do it. So they will be fine now. Their problem is solved. As it was after post #7.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gengis
    That's perfect. I've used both Camtasia and slides or anything i want to record as a background and Screenflow now that i have a Macbook and it's good either way..

    And yes with the powerpoint slides i've done this many times, that's a video sales letter..
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  • Profile picture of the author Coby
    Camtasia works...

    But here is the one I use most now...

    Screencast-O-Matic - Free online screen recorder for instant screen capture video sharing.

    I use the "pro" version which is currently $15/year.

    For a webinar service that outputs the video in Mp4 you can check out...

    http://www.clickwebinar.com

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    • Profile picture of the author barry500
      Love this forum - great guys giving advice without agenda. Thanks lads.

      @kurt I joined both War room and Kindle room and received great value.
      Wasn't aware of the Video private area. Is there a place where I can see what it does/who it's for/investment etc

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        Originally Posted by barry500 View Post

        Love this forum - great guys giving advice without agenda. Thanks lads.

        @kurt I joined both War room and Kindle room and received great value.
        Wasn't aware of the Video private area. Is there a place where I can see what it does/who it's for/investment etc

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        As far as "seeing" the contents, I'm very protective of the content, as it maintains value for the members. I prefer to lose sales than take from the value of paying members.

        I will say, it's the most complete video marketing and creation resource anywhere, and has something for video marketers of all levels. And if there's something that isn't there, just ask.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Fallaize
    Camtasia all the way. As someone mentioned, a good way to make instructional videos is to record the audio first, then synch the video using Camtasia. You can add markers to the audio, and even time stretch the videos to fit perfectly with the audio. Yes, Camtasia also comes with a powerpoint plugin which may make life easier for you, either way is good.

    You can also used the screen recording function to demonstrate how you use the net, for example with search engine optimization, you can record yourself doing keyword research.

    Recording live webinars with a digital pen to draw images on your screen must be the fastest way to make an instructional video, much like a non-virtual teacher with a whiteboard. No synching required!

    Hope it helps!
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    You can use Camstudio (free), and configure it to record volume from your computer... whether that's music, a text to speech software, or your own self speaking into a microphone.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim_Carter
    For my tutorials I use Camtasia. I capture the screen and record my voice as I go. Makes for a live tutorial which my customers prefer over static slides.
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  • Profile picture of the author joshuamason
    I have to agree with the posts above. Camtasia is the best! Screenr is a great open source option too, but I believe it has a time limit on how much you can record at once. I think it stops at 5 minutes. ScreenFlow is another great source as well. here is a great video of what ScreenFlow can do: Q&A: Review of ScreenFlow? What is it capable of? - YouTube

    Good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author WillR
      Originally Posted by Tim_Carter View Post

      For my tutorials I use Camtasia. I capture the screen and record my voice as I go.
      Originally Posted by joshuamason View Post

      I have to agree with the posts above. Camtasia is the best!
      Yep, same. Seems most people do.

      Maybe Kurt has learnt something in this thread if he cares to take note.
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      • Profile picture of the author Marty S
        Originally Posted by WillR View Post

        Yep, same. Seems most people do.
        Maybe Kurt has learnt something in this thread if he cares to take note.
        It's all opinion I suppose, but I don't think there is anything in this thread Kurt did not know already. Matter of preference for work flow of course, but recording audio separately is something I teach in my ScreenFlow course. I feel I was also one of the first forum members here to explain that concept to new video producers - 2 or 3 years ago now!

        After my subscribers learn this method, it is almost always met with an "ah ha" moment, and their videos rapidly improve from that point on. This is what I was trying to explain to OP, as was Jill Carpenter.

        Sure not for everyone, as Tim_Carter proved, but even in his (outstanding PLR) videos, I would never be able to speak that fluently even for 1 minute. So for the rest of us mortals - you can make yourself sound really professional by doing the audio track separately.
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  • Profile picture of the author barry500
    I understand that it helps to take a break when recording audio - today I am further behind than ever - just cannot seem to implement this valuable advice -
    Tried powerpoint only on slides where I had save some audio as a practice - I have tried for last three hours to remove the audio so that I can re-record audio without success. I have read all the support materials available without success.

    I want audio removed but can't do it I have tried clicking the icon on each slide but all that comes up is a slider graphic.

    Cannot believe that I cannot just record over old audio - but when I try it plays back both old and new audio tracks. Completely flummoxed.

    So I tried to download to camtasia - click the powerpoint button in tools and it opens a new powerpoint window - cannot figure how to open previously saved file and work on it. Watched the camtasia tutorial videos - but my PC does not seem to give what I see on screen.
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