Smart Safelist Traffic

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Does anyone know about Smart Safelist? smartsafelist.com...is it a good way to get leads? How does the website actually work for getting traffic? Should I sign up for a lifetime membership for $77? Any experience or success with this way of getting traffic?
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  • Profile picture of the author AlexanderBeloev
    Originally Posted by intmark5 View Post

    Does anyone know about Smart Safelist? smartsafelist.com...is it a good way to get leads? How does the website actually work for getting traffic? Should I sign up for a lifetime membership for $77? Any experience or success with this way of getting traffic?
    There are proven ways to get traffic. I am not sure that something like this will work for anyone except its owners.

    This site seems to be something like those sites for exchange of Like, Followers Shares and etc.

    It's better to buy 100 clicks for 77 dollars from a proven to convert email list. You can find a lot here on the forum.

    Best regards,

    Alex
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  • Sites like these COULD work for you, but if you want better/higher quality results you should definitely look into solo ads from the marketplace here on WF, like Alexander suggested.
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    • Profile picture of the author talfighel
      Originally Posted by Frederik Jorgensen View Post

      Sites like these COULD work for you, but if you want better/higher quality results you should definitely look into solo ads from the marketplace here on WF, like Alexander suggested.
      Solo ads do work but if a lot of marketers use the same offer to send to these lists over and over again, you will probably not make as much sales as you would like.

      If you are going to use solo ads, make sure that you track your sales conversions with each vendor.
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      • Profile picture of the author agmccall
        using safelists can be good for listbuilding. Although, you have to do it right and in order to do it right, you will need to be participating in at least 10 safelists. This might seem very time consuming, but, once you set your system up you could easily add 100 or more people to your list monthly.

        People are correct in that the traffic is mostly crap, but, the signups are not.

        I learned what I know about safelists through Jamie Cinq-Mars his site is here
        Directory Of Safelists (not affiliate link) lots of free information, tools, and resources.

        it is not for everyone, but if you want to add subscribers and only invest some time then this could be a viable strategy.

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    • Profile picture of the author Roderick Gardner
      Personally I don't use site's like that as I perfer to but solo ads or clicks from other source's.
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  • Profile picture of the author gjohansson1
    I cannot stand using the actual safelist as a traffic method as the responsiveness is horrible. You're lucky to get a 2% click through rate.

    BUT

    I can definitely recommend purchasing a contact solo ad from these types of sites. They usually are in the $10-$20 price range which can be easily recouped with a solid funnel.

    The reason why safelists aren't any good is because they have you use 2 emails: A safelist email that gets all the members emails, and a contact email for admin and solo ads.

    The traffic is still incentive-based as the users are usually offered many times more mailing credits for clicking on these contact solo ads.

    I still recommend traditional solo ads over these contact solos, but it's always good to test out different sources.
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  • Profile picture of the author nitesh
    The concept of this site looks similar to the traffic selling sites. You can get good traffic by buying their membership but actually that traffic will be worthless for you. Traffic to sites from such sources come from the other users of the site like you who might have registered on the site just to get more traffic. Many of these users open a website in their autosurf browser, minimize it and continue doing other work. So while the browser is visiting your site, the real user is currently doing some other work. Now decide yourself how effective such traffic could be.
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  • Profile picture of the author WorkAtHomeExpert
    Even though the results are no way as good as paid traffic methods, Safelist sites do work. They work best for getting leads / growing your list. Then market low cost products to that list. With safelist sites I always advise marketers using safelist sites to use it first to experience how responsive it is. If you get clicks and leads as a free member, then you can consider upgrading.

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  • Profile picture of the author awledd
    listjoe made me few sales. it can work for you but u should have lots of patience and wisdom.
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  • Profile picture of the author cjsewell
    My personal feeling is that you should run, not walk, away from these sites. Keep that $77 in your pocket for something else.

    Here's how those sites work.

    People join, for $77, to send offers and receive offers via email. The problem is that after a while, the people you the 'safelist' and sick of all the crap offers they get everyday.

    No human and absorb that much , buy-me-stuff, everyday.

    After a while, the people on these safelists stop reading their email. Some setup email filters to automatically trash any messages from the safelist provider. This means no one actually sees your message or offer.

    You may have sent a message out to 10K people, but only 1k read the message, and 10 visited your offer page.

    If you want cheap targeted traffic to your offers, reply to posts in forums like what I'm doing now. Offer helpful advice and people will see your signature file below and visit your website or offer page.

    I hope this helps.

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    • Profile picture of the author tonyabw31
      As a newbie, I thought that this was an intriguing way to get my business in front of other entrepreneurs. I just joined one and will report back about my experience. I actually like the emails I am getting from the safelist because it shows me what is out there, what people are promoting and gives me great ideas. Also, if I see something I can benefit from I definitely will take a look. I hope this helps.
      I appreciate all of the other comments and warnings. I heard you. I am also going to look at solo ads on this forum. I've received awesome info here!


      -Tonya W

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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by cjsewell View Post

      My personal feeling is that you should run, not walk, away from these sites. Keep that $77 in your pocket for something else.

      Here's how those sites work.

      People join, for $77, to send offers and receive offers via email. The problem is that after a while, the people you the 'safelist' and sick of all the crap offers they get everyday.

      No human and absorb that much , buy-me-stuff, everyday.

      After a while, the people on these safelists stop reading their email. Some setup email filters to automatically trash any messages from the safelist provider. This means no one actually sees your message or offer.

      You may have sent a message out to 10K people, but only 1k read the message, and 10 visited your offer page.

      If you want cheap targeted traffic to your offers, reply to posts in forums like what I'm doing now. Offer helpful advice and people will see your signature file below and visit your website or offer page.

      I hope this helps.

      Uncle C. J.
      If any thing it seems to do an excellent job in pissing some people off


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  • Profile picture of the author Richard Weberg
    How to use safelist and mailers Successfully..

    First off, I do not own any my self, and never have.

    I have been using safelist, mailers and manual traffic exchanges for about 12 years now as one of my main traffic sources. They produce over 80% of all my traffic.

    Secondly, It is extremely targeted traffic (for those selling anything in the make money online niche)..Safelist, mailers and traffic exchanges are chalk full of internet marketers, there are literally tens of thousands of people who use them everyday. Some have member ships that exceed over a million members, and some of those larger ones literally have over 1000 new people join them everyday, 365 days a year.

    Thirdly, I get over 10,000 visitors a day to all my offers, without trying, Safelist, mailers and manual traffic exchanges pay me to use them, and my traffic is residual. Some I have so much traffic available in, that I send it to my personal referrals, because I can not even use it all.

    Fourth let me give you some real facts...

    1. They are totally free to join and use, with (optional upgrades) and most give out promo codes and out right free credits just for joining.

    2. They attract masses of internet marketers because of number 1, I mean who dose not want free traffic or should I say the ability to create free traffic very easily??

    3. They give away credits to people for referring other people, and for active referrals surfing.

    4. They are referral based. Every member can earn commissions, most even pay commissions to free members on upgraded referrals. If your upgraded yourself, you can earn larger commissions.

    5. So here is a traffic source that is never ending, and you have the ability to literally reach tens of thousands of other internet marketers (everyday) totally for free, or even get paid to do so...

    6. Safelist, mailers and manual traffic exchanges have been around longer then I have been marketing online, so before 2003, because that is when I started using them.


    Now back to my point..
    How to use safelist and mailers Successfully..

    1. Only advertise an opt-in page, with an offer that has to do with the make money online niche, if you have a product or service that will help people build more traffic, build their list faster, build better pages, create videos, create membership sites, help them with blogging, a mlm opportunity, Anything to do with internet marketing,etc...Then they will work for you.

    But if your trying to sell stuff like shoes or sun glasses, very doubtful.


    2. Get good upgrades in the top safelist and mailers. Most offer, lifetime, yearly, or monthly discounted upgrades, especially upon first joining or when they are first launching.

    Example, if you can get a lifetime upgrade in a safelist, lets say for $77.00 (this means you never pay again). And lets say that upgrade lets you mail 3000 people every 48 hours, this means you will send 547,500 emails by the end of the year in that one safelist. Now if this is a top safelist with a good owner, or a new one with a good owner, that safelist will continue to grow, and potentially will be around for years. So as the site grows, the number of people you reach will grow and cost you nothing extra.

    3. Multiple your upgrades (best is always lifetime), the example above was only one, lets say you had 20 of these lifetime upgrades. You had a one-time cost and and permanent advertising resource.

    20 times 3000 is 60,000 emails sent every 48 hours, now take that by every 48 hours, 365 days in a year , and you send over 10 million emails in them a year.

    Once you learn how to use a safelists or mailers, it only takes maybe a minute per each one to log in and send out your email in each. So lets say a half hour every other day to send out over 10 million emails a year...

    4. I ask again, who does not want free traffic? So the last step is to make your safelist and mailers pay you to use them.

    How do I do this, after taking a lifetime upgrade in any safelist, I then send an ad to my list with my referral link for that safelist. I am an upgraded member, so usually I get 50% commissions. Now many people take me up on the offer and some use it as a free member and others upgrade in it. So lets say I make $250.00 in commissions after sending it to my list. I paid $77.00 one-time lifetime payment to upgrade in it, so I just made $173.00. They now have paid me to advertise my own offers, it cost me nothing, except the time it takes to log in and hit send...

    Plus my referrals earn me residual traffic credits. Most pay me commissions every month..


    Now my last point is..They absolutely work, you can not argue this, I have built huge list using these traffic sites, and I continue to do so. Now they may not work in the context like a solo ad does where you buy 100 clicks for $70.00 and you get 30 or 40 immediate opt-ins.

    But now that solo ad is done, if it didn't convert into any worthwhile prospect, your money was wasted, and its over, NO MORE TRAFFIC. You have to go buy another solo ad, and if your a regular buyer of solo ads you know as well as I do, that many end up worthless...

    Safelist, mailers, manual traffic exchanges, offer several different advertising options, because of them I also have over a million banner and text ads running across the internet at all times.

    My partner in one of my membership sites, started this strategy when she first started marketing online, and after doing this, by the end of her second year she was sending over 200,000 emails a day, thats over 70 million emails in a year...She started one lifetime membership at a time, and took her profits and reinvested them into more. (and believe me she gets results

    Some lifetime upgrades cost more some cost less then the example I gave, depends on how big, new or old the exchange is..And when they run specials. Well the example I gave you is the best way, lifetimes are always the best choice, you can also do it having monthlies and yearly upgrades...

    All traffic strategies work, does not matter what avenue you choose, its taking the time to figure out what works with them..Not trying something, I never try something..If you just try something it will always fail, you have to be committed and make it work, otherwise do not bother, you are just wasting your time.

    To Your Success In All You Do!
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    • Profile picture of the author Willowgal
      Awesome post Richard ... Am going to PM you next ...

      Thanks,
      Gareth

      Originally Posted by Richard Weberg View Post

      How to use safelist and mailers Successfully..

      First off, I do not own any my self, and never have.

      I have been using safelist, mailers and manual traffic exchanges for about 12 years now as one of my main traffic sources. They produce over 80% of all my traffic.

      Secondly, It is extremely targeted traffic (for those selling anything in the make money online niche)..Safelist, mailers and traffic exchanges are chalk full of internet marketers, there are literally tens of thousands of people who use them everyday. Some have member ships that exceed over a million members, and some of those larger ones literally have over 1000 new people join them everyday, 365 days a year.

      Thirdly, I get over 10,000 visitors a day to all my offers, without trying, Safelist, mailers and manual traffic exchanges pay me to use them, and my traffic is residual. Some I have so much traffic available in, that I send it to my personal referrals, because I can not even use it all.

      Fourth let me give you some real facts...

      1. They are totally free to join and use, with (optional upgrades) and most give out promo codes and out right free credits just for joining.

      2. They attract masses of internet marketers because of number 1, I mean who dose not want free traffic or should I say the ability to create free traffic very easily??

      3. They give away credits to people for referring other people, and for active referrals surfing.

      4. They are referral based. Every member can earn commissions, most even pay commissions to free members on upgraded referrals. If your upgraded yourself, you can earn larger commissions.

      5. So here is a traffic source that is never ending, and you have the ability to literally reach tens of thousands of other internet marketers (everyday) totally for free, or even get paid to do so...

      6. Safelist, mailers and manual traffic exchanges have been around longer then I have been marketing online, so before 2003, because that is when I started using them.


      Now back to my point..
      How to use safelist and mailers Successfully..

      1. Only advertise an opt-in page, with an offer that has to do with the make money online niche, if you have a product or service that will help people build more traffic, build their list faster, build better pages, create videos, create membership sites, help them with blogging, a mlm opportunity, Anything to do with internet marketing,etc...Then they will work for you.

      But if your trying to sell stuff like shoes or sun glasses, very doubtful.


      2. Get good upgrades in the top safelist and mailers. Most offer, lifetime, yearly, or monthly discounted upgrades, especially upon first joining or when they are first launching.

      Example, if you can get a lifetime upgrade in a safelist, lets say for $77.00 (this means you never pay again). And lets say that upgrade lets you mail 3000 people every 48 hours, this means you will send 547,500 emails by the end of the year in that one safelist. Now if this is a top safelist with a good owner, or a new one with a good owner, that safelist will continue to grow, and potentially will be around for years. So as the site grows, the number of people you reach will grow and cost you nothing extra.

      3. Multiple your upgrades (best is always lifetime), the example above was only one, lets say you had 20 of these lifetime upgrades. You had a one-time cost and and permanent advertising resource.

      20 times 3000 is 60,000 emails sent every 48 hours, now take that by every 48 hours, 365 days in a year , and you send over 10 million emails in them a year.

      Once you learn how to use a safelists or mailers, it only takes maybe a minute per each one to log in and send out your email in each. So lets say a half hour every other day to send out over 10 million emails a year...

      4. I ask again, who does not want free traffic? So the last step is to make your safelist and mailers pay you to use them.

      How do I do this, after taking a lifetime upgrade in any safelist, I then send an ad to my list with my referral link for that safelist. I am an upgraded member, so usually I get 50% commissions. Now many people take me up on the offer and some use it as a free member and others upgrade in it. So lets say I make $250.00 in commissions after sending it to my list. I paid $77.00 one-time lifetime payment to upgrade in it, so I just made $173.00. They now have paid me to advertise my own offers, it cost me nothing, except the time it takes to log in and hit send...

      Plus my referrals earn me residual traffic credits. Most pay me commissions every month..


      Now my last point is..They absolutely work, you can not argue this, I have built huge list using these traffic sites, and I continue to do so. Now they may not work in the context like a solo ad does where you buy 100 clicks for $70.00 and you get 30 or 40 immediate opt-ins.

      But now that solo ad is done, if it didn't convert into any worthwhile prospect, your money was wasted, and its over, NO MORE TRAFFIC. You have to go buy another solo ad, and if your a regular buyer of solo ads you know as well as I do, that many end up worthless...

      Safelist, mailers, manual traffic exchanges, offer several different advertising options, because of them I also have over a million banner and text ads running across the internet at all times.

      My partner in one of my membership sites, started this strategy when she first started marketing online, and after doing this, by the end of her second year she was sending over 200,000 emails a day, thats over 70 million emails in a year...She started one lifetime membership at a time, and took her profits and reinvested them into more. (and believe me she gets results

      Some lifetime upgrades cost more some cost less then the example I gave, depends on how big, new or old the exchange is..And when they run specials. Well the example I gave you is the best way, lifetimes are always the best choice, you can also do it having monthlies and yearly upgrades...

      All traffic strategies work, does not matter what avenue you choose, its taking the time to figure out what works with them..Not trying something, I never try something..If you just try something it will always fail, you have to be committed and make it work, otherwise do not bother, you are just wasting your time.

      To Your Success In All You Do!
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  • Profile picture of the author Shaolinsteve
    Originally Posted by intmark5 View Post

    Does anyone know about Smart Safelist? smartsafelist.com...is it a good way to get leads? How does the website actually work for getting traffic? Should I sign up for a lifetime membership for $77? Any experience or success with this way of getting traffic?
    If you're intending on building or have a safelist business, then it could possibly work out. But for anything else, I highly doubt these leads would gain any benefit. The odd few maybe... but certainly not worth investing in unless it's going to be related. I've upgraded to some in the past and found them completely useless.

    People open emails and click to gain points and earn "email promotion credits" as far as I know. If your aim is to get people opening your emails and join your business opportunity then to be honest... your chances are very slim, because their only purpose (for most) is to simply gain credits.

    You'd be far better off investing it in solo ads, Facebook or Bing PPC if you know what you're doing and working with those to build your business.
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    If you need to get some leads in your affiliate program you can see this GIG
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  • Profile picture of the author winnermarketing
    You could try Smart Safelist service if you have to increase your mailing ilst!
    after that you can optimize conversion by your work!
    Try it for a month or two and see results!
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  • Profile picture of the author mjcole76
    safelists do work, and smart safelist is a decent one, but the quality isn't always great, since people on safelist just go through your ads, just to get credits for their ads, you better off getting a solo ad if thats the case from like clickdrop
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