Information Product Coaching?

by Greedy
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I have 3 membership site based around info products.

These sites are making me around $10k a month total.

I really they're not optimized too good. I feel like I can take them to the next level.

Any suggestion on top tier coaching or products? And why they could help me?
#coaching #information #product
  • Profile picture of the author salegurus
    You are making $10K per month? That's probably more than 95% of the mebers here.
    You should be coaching others...
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    • Profile picture of the author Greedy
      Originally Posted by salegurus View Post

      You are making $10K per month? That's probably more than 95% of the mebers here.
      You should be coaching others...
      Yes maybe true, I work hard and am blessed.

      But there are bigger fish in sea.

      Trying to connect/learn from with them.
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    • Profile picture of the author WillR
      Originally Posted by salegurus View Post

      You should be coaching others...
      Terrible advice. Someone who starts making a steady income online shouldn't necessarily turn right around and teach others. It's like telling the guy who hits his first home run to start teaching others baseball.

      THAT is what's wrong with the industry. Too many 'experts' and not enough experts.
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      • Profile picture of the author salegurus
        Originally Posted by WillR View Post

        Terrible advice. Someone who starts making a steady income online shouldn't necessarily turn right around and teach others.
        Don't hold back Will...
        It was not intended as advice but i do agree with you there are too many know-it-alls on this forum....
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        • Profile picture of the author WillR
          Originally Posted by salegurus View Post

          Don't hold back Will...
          It was not intended as advice but i do agree with you there are too many know-it-alls on this forum....
          'Know-it-alls' (as you call them) are fine so long as they do actually know what they are talking about. The problem is most do not.

          What I was referring to was your comment recommending someone should start teaching others just because they have started to make an income online. I don't agree with that. There are far too many people in this industry trying to teach others when they are yet to master it themselves. I know it's what this industry thrives on but it doesn't make it right.

          So just be careful when looking for coaching. Make sure you find someone with a proven track record. Not someone who is just coaching but someone who is doing or has done what you want to do several times over.
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            • Profile picture of the author salegurus
              Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

              @Will,
              I believe he was being sarcastic.
              Thanks Joseph, you obviously saw it for what it was...
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          • Profile picture of the author salegurus
            Originally Posted by WillR View Post

            What I was referring to was your comment recommending someone should start teaching others just because they have started to make an income online.
            I will say it one more time, it was not intended as a recommendation or advice or anything similar....
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  • Profile picture of the author Coby
    I would contact those who you already follow and see if they offer coaching. Since you already have some experience it will be easy for you to judge who is "real" and who is "faking".

    Cheers,
    Coby
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  • Profile picture of the author theory expert
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    By your own admission you said you haven't optimized your sites. Perhaps you could use some outsource help to optimize your sites instead of buying coaching?

    Maybe get even more articles out. SEO onsite offsite, and affiliate funnel etc. Take at look at all the things you may have not done to maximize your site and find someone to hire to do them. Just my penny ante advice.
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    • Profile picture of the author ElGuapo
      One of the more obvious things you can do is sign up to some of the big IM membership sites and make some notes on their sales funnels, how they interact with subscribers, the common elements in their sales letters etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author Malcolm Thomas
    As others have said, to be Generating $10,000 per month makes you ahead of most marketers online. I believe you don't even really need a coach. Just continue to scale up your efforts
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  • Profile picture of the author Alpha123
    What makes you say they are not optimized?
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    Just from what I've heard by reputation, you'd have to do your due diligence:
    Jason Fladlien, Robert Plank, Perry Marshall, Mark Hendricks, Alex Jeffries
    Probably other Warriors - I just don't know em.

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    • Profile picture of the author sal64
      Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

      Just from what I've heard by reputation, you'd have to do your due diligence:
      Jason Fladlien, Robert Plank, Perry Marshall, Mark Hendricks, Alex Jeffries
      Probably other Warriors - I just don't know em.

      Dan
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      • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
        Originally Posted by sal64 View Post

        ^^^Him ^^^^
        Agreed on Perry Marshall. Or Glenn Livingston.
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  • Profile picture of the author Greedy
    Thanks for all the feedback guys ...

    It's like telling the guy who hits his first home run to start teaching others baseball.
    Well this isn't my first home run, been making good money full-time online for almost 6 years now. But honestly I don't have time to do coaching, I've got bigger fish to fry. So lets all not worry about that.

    By your own admission you said you haven't optimized your sites. Perhaps you could use some outsource help to optimize your sites instead of buying coaching?
    I'm currently knocking out optimizations daily, but I know there are things I maybe over looking.

    One of the more obvious things you can do is sign up to some of the big IM membership sites
    Yes this would be ideal, any recommendation. I've been nearly every CPA forum, and while they touch on sales funnels I need something like them that focus on sales funnels.

    Thanks, I think I need to start searching around for advice on "sales funnels" instead "information products" / "membership sites"
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    • Profile picture of the author Coby
      Originally Posted by Greedy View Post

      Thanks, I think I need to start searching around for advice on "sales funnels" instead "information products" / "membership sites"
      Now you are getting somewhere

      That's what I would focus your attention on also. Sales funnels are vital to most business models. Since you have 3 membership sites you can add these into the backend of these funnels to really start scaling up, maybe by adding in some paid traffic.

      I would look up "Charles Kirkland" for expertise on this. I've followed him for years and he knows his stuff when it comes to sales funnels and paid traffic.

      Good luck.

      Cheers,
      Coby
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      • Profile picture of the author gurugrimmer
        Originally Posted by Coby View Post

        Now you are getting somewhere

        That's what I would focus your attention on also. Sales funnels are vital to most business models. Since you have 3 membership sites you can add these into the backend of these funnels to really start scaling up, maybe by adding in some paid traffic.

        I would look up "Charles Kirkland" for expertise on this. I've followed him for years and he knows his stuff when it comes to sales funnels and paid traffic.

        Good luck.

        Cheers,
        Coby

        I second that... Charles is a top guy.
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  • Profile picture of the author BamaGuy
    If you can connect with Kenster, he would be a great one to learn from. He knows his stuff and teaches it very well. He is one that really cares about the success of those that work with him. I know this first hand.

    Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author John47
    Have a look at Alex Jeffreys. He specialises in this area.
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  • Profile picture of the author jsc420
    I agree with John47. Alex Jeffrey's course on sales funnel is top notch.
    Helped me a lot.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Greedy, what exactly do you need help with?

    If I cant help you, I certainly know of someone who can.
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  • Profile picture of the author mert
    Hmmm I'm not sure a lot of guys out there are making that much from coaching alone. I can offer recommendations but we need to know what's cookin and what's not.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Wightley
    Firstly I'd like to say you are doing better than most and you should be coaching others or maybe even put what you've learn't and your methods into your own product.

    But to answer your question the best coaches to help you take it to the next level would be Alex Jeffery's and John Thornhill. Both are great and I have learn't plenty from these guys.
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  • Profile picture of the author jbsmith
    Two areas I would suggest you work on...

    1. Ramp up big time using partners and launch techniques...this will get tons of attention, some good JV partners on board and really get things humming in terms of traffic and sales

    2. Look at optimizing your conversions...do you have any idea on what visitor/conversion stats are today? Are you converting 1-2%, more? Less?

    Finally, how is retention? Are you keeping your members, what is their drop rate?

    I myself run several infoproduct businesses, some with membership sites. To be honest, what worked the best for me is focusing on the points I outlined above. Speeds things up from slow growth of organic or the hit and miss technique of paid ads.

    Jeff
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  • Profile picture of the author butters
    Why not invest x amounts of thousands and pay someone who actually knows their stuff to optimise it for you, small investment, more money earnt!
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  • Profile picture of the author Greedy
    Awesome feedback everyone, I'm checking out these big name marketers now.

    Thanks all the input.

    Great stuff!
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  • Profile picture of the author Greedy
    Finally, how is retention? Are you keeping your members, what is their drop rate?
    How can I track this in wishlist?
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  • Profile picture of the author Advanpro
    Greedy , I am not affiliated with the guy , however he is the best coach around in my opinion. Check out Alex Jeffries he will have you making double you 10 k in no time. You are his ideal client. You will thank me for this, he is the best
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  • Profile picture of the author MoneyKattz
    Hi Greedy, I have a few marketers in mind that I think might be able to help Mike Filsaime or Lee Mcintyre have some coaching programs but depending on what you want there might be some better choices out there. I have a friend who started a successful online business through SEO perhaps I can get a hold of him and he can help you.
    PS
    I'm starting a site that will have some interviews with successful marketers, based on your success might you have some interest and having a promotional interview? There would also be an opportunity for you to make a residual income from it too, so message me if that sounds like something you might be interested in.
    Either way I hope some of what I said helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author tayuyaa
    Hi Greedy,

    I think at this point you should try to connect with big million dollars marketers in mastermind groups. One I really like is John Carlton, there are also others that are good too as some people mentioned in this thread...

    Anyway that is what I would do to take my business to the next level, connecting, networking.

    Cheers.

    Tim
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  • Profile picture of the author solos
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    Why don't you just continue what you are doing now? Its working for you so just repeat what you are doing and build on it to increase your income?

    Or outsource it?
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  • Profile picture of the author jbsmith
    Greedy, I haven't used Wishlist in some time, our membership sites now support members in the thousands so we had to move to something more robust. If I recall correctly the reporting was limited, but I would suspect you have a report to view members who have left/cancelled in the last week/month - from there you may need to triage how long they are staying. You should also be able to tell just from running a weekly/monthly report on active members. If you have 10 new members join in the month and your active membership stays the same, you know you are losing them as fast as they are joining.

    Jeff
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  • Profile picture of the author mayagh
    You can try russell brunson as well, hes an internet millionaire that offers coaching and his program is amazing.
    I agree with you, you need to take it level higher and learn always from the best ... !!!
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  • Profile picture of the author ecoverartist
    That's a great job! Congratulations on reaching a level that most people only dream of!

    Regarding your sites, I do conversion optimization coaching and have done so for many years. Basically, I help you get more people to buy what you're selling, through a combination of well-designed sites, search engine optimization infrastructures in those sites, share-worthy content and good old human psychology.

    I don't advertise it often on the forum here but I'd be delighted to discuss things with you further if you're interested.

    Kind Regards,
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  • Profile picture of the author PPC-Coach
    amember is my favorite one. I've used that since 2007 on all my sites.

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  • Profile picture of the author ebusyness
    I was recommended this company as I asked for some advice as a newbie. He said he outsourced everything for around $3000 and now makes $15,000 a month. He started by using this company and got top rankings for 25 keywords.

    Send 'em an email, they certainly look to have good credentials. Ask for some results

    This is part of what he sent me... and his email is at the bottom

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  • Profile picture of the author Prayer Warrior
    Hi Greedy,

    Because it is membership site optimization that you require, I would suggest using a well established marketer with a proven track record & most importantly, who has very successful membership sites!! Two people who immediately come to mind are Dean Holland & his mentor the one & only Alex Jeffreys. I modelled my own membership site after Dean Holland's site (I was a paying member of his site for years). Just make sure you focus on over delivering great value for money re: content offered to members & constantly communicating with the members to promptly resolve any issues that they may have.

    Hope this helps,

    Ryan.
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