Does Google Sniper/Micro Niche Sites Still Work

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Simple question from a newbie Warrior here.

We're talking about George Brown's Google Sniper 2.0.

I first heard about it two years ago and I don't know what this Penguin and Panda stuff is all about but apparently Google is trying to filter these kind of sites out?

Talk to me Warriors!
#google #niche #sites #sniper or micro #work
  • Profile picture of the author yosk
    Originally Posted by jchoros View Post

    Simple question from a newbie Warrior here.

    We're talking about George Brown's Google Sniper 2.0.

    I first heard about it two years ago and I don't know what this Penguin and Panda stuff is all about but apparently Google is trying to filter these kind of sites out?

    Talk to me Warriors!
    I don't know about Google Sniper ..but..if you want to know about it , it means you have the money to buy it.

    I suggest you to buy another product (that selles here , on the WF , and have a lot of sales and great feedback)
    take action , and make money.

    Plus , you don't even need money..some people publishing FREE WSO on a daily basis.

    You just have to Read & Take Action.
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  • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
    Nope, sniper sites are a very outdated idea. Yes, some still rank - but as an overall strategy you're fighting an uphill battle with a 'sniper site.'
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  • Profile picture of the author dreamogul
    g sniper is free on net if you know where, has some great intro info on SEO and keyword research, not worth the purchase, micro niche sites with some SEO works. I think CLICKBANK is the real problem. Their products are oversold B.S. ....if you have a unique niche product on clickbank soon 1000 other internet junkies will be pitching the same product and battling you for seo...lol
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    • Profile picture of the author marcokango
      I agree with performance man sniper sites are hard to rank .Authority sites is the way to go with unique content and some link building.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mark Fallaize
        Yes micro niche sites still work, especially if you find a niche with very low competition. It's just harder now to SEO these sites due to the google updates, but there are other ways to drive traffic to them and bypass the updates. For example, upload videos on youtube, optimize the tags, description and comments section with your keywords, and your video will rank highly in the google search results because of youtube's high PR and the fact that google owns youtube.

        There are however much easier ways to earn money online, including building a list with a squeeze page. Just search the forum for "list building" and related terms, but basically you send traffic to an email opt in form to build a list of customers you can market to.

        Hope it helps!
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    • Profile picture of the author butters
      Originally Posted by dreamogul View Post

      g sniper is free on net if you know where, has some great intro info on SEO and keyword research, not worth the purchase, micro niche sites with some SEO works.
      How about actually buying a product??

      I think CLICKBANK is the real problem. Their products are oversold B.S. ....if you have a unique niche product on clickbank soon 1000 other internet junkies will be pitching the same product and battling you for seo...lol
      Do you really think the people selling products on Clickbank actually care about SEO?
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  • Profile picture of the author dkla27
    From what I have read around I believe the core of these products is on-page SEO with a lot of gravity to the Exact Match Domain choice (choose a domain that is exactly the keyword you want to rank for).

    If that is the case then I'm afraid it doesn't work anymore, recent Google updates have substantially devalued domain name relevance in search rankings.
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    • Profile picture of the author livo
      I asked the same question on another forum a while ago and was told an astounding yes.

      I was told to just do a search on big G with relevant keywords that had high competition.

      So i did and after about a hundred i got the message.

      Although in do believe it is still being done, it is not as easy as it used to be.

      You just have to do it the right way
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  • Profile picture of the author Demetrius
    Do you really think the people selling products on Clickbank actually care about SEO?
    A very good question here. Personally I do not really think they care about SEO. They don't have to care about SEO.
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    • This may be bringing up a dead conversation, but SEO these days don't really matter as far as Penguin 2.0 is concerned. These days, it's about quality of content. I mean don't get me wrong, SEO does work, but it's not the key to the top page of Google anymore... These days, you actually have to put in the hard work and make relevant content... which really, shouldn't be that hard as long as you're delivering it to your email list and social networks.
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      • Profile picture of the author TheEye
        Google Sniper used to work well because exact match domains had a huge positive affect in the Google search algorithm.

        This often meant you could rank for keywords with little or no back linking.

        Now exact match domains have a much smaller positive affect and you now need to get more quality back links from a variety of sources.
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  • Yes, small sites like these used to rank, but for the most part they no longer do. Google is getting more efficient all the time.

    One thing we can all count on is that Google is going to continue to get better and better at putting only valuable sites at the top of search results. Your best bet is always going to be to build an authority site. These have every advantage over a micro-niche site.

    With a large website, even if you weren't getting traffic from Google, whoever did come to your site could end up clicking through many pages instead of just one or two. This can give you alot more chances to make your sales.
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  • Profile picture of the author 55sadhikar
    Rather than making niche sites,you should be making videos and promoting products. Video ranking is much easier these days than trying to rank sites..
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Silvey
      EMD's still work, but you have to EMD slap proof your site. A note to remember is there is less weight placed on domain names now then there used to be.

      1. Stay away from hyphenated lontail keywords for the domain name.

      Here is an example structure.

      Domain Name: Broad Global
      Page Title: Long Tail
      Description: Use related keywords.
      Content: Pepper related keywords.
      Alt tags: Pepper.
      H Tags: The same.
      Content Length - Optimize, nothing short under 1k length.
      Obtain backlinks naturally.


      Make sure the content is readable and makes sense.

      The EMD from my experience works along the lines of checking for keyword stuffing as well as inbound links. You want to deflate the use of the prime keywords with relative secondary keywords and synonyms.
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      • Profile picture of the author martinp
        I don't specifically follow George Brown's Google Sniper as there were a few things about his marketing strategy I didn't agree with. However, I know from experience that micro niche sites DO still work. Very well in fact, and they rank just as easily as before if you choose your keywords correctly.

        EMD's might not be as strong as they used to be in terms of ranking easily, but I still find value in them for smaller sites.

        Just to give you an example (sorry I can't give away the domain though) - I built a site around 1st April that is now getting 350 uniques daily, making about $50 a day, and I put no more than about 2-3 hours work into it.

        The site in question is built around a low comp, long tail keyword, I used an EMD, 5 articles of 800+ words each, and manually built about 15 links to it. It's ranked on page 1 of Google for 8 keywords and ranked no.2 for the main keyword.

        Things haven't changed THAT much in the last few years - you do have to be more careful about over optimization, backlink anchor text etc. but the basics still apply.

        It's true that micro niche sites don't have the same shelf life that an authority site would have, but when they're so quick to build and require relatively little effort to get ranked it'd be a waste not to add at least a few to your arsenal.
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        • Profile picture of the author CatherineMay
          Originally Posted by martinp View Post

          I don't specifically follow George Brown's Google Sniper as there were a few things about his marketing strategy I didn't agree with. However, I know from experience that micro niche sites DO still work. Very well in fact, and they rank just as easily as before if you choose your keywords correctly.

          EMD's might not be as strong as they used to be in terms of ranking easily, but I still find value in them for smaller sites.

          Just to give you an example (sorry I can't give away the domain though) - I built a site around 1st April that is now getting 350 uniques daily, making about $50 a day, and I put no more than about 2-3 hours work into it.

          The site in question is built around a low comp, long tail keyword, I used an EMD, 5 articles of 800+ words each, and manually built about 15 links to it. It's ranked on page 1 of Google for 8 keywords and ranked no.2 for the main keyword.

          Things haven't changed THAT much in the last few years - you do have to be more careful about over optimization, backlink anchor text etc. but the basics still apply.

          It's true that micro niche sites don't have the same shelf life that an authority site would have, but when they're so quick to build and require relatively little effort to get ranked it'd be a waste not to add at least a few to your arsenal.
          I found your post very encouraging. Would you please share what kind of manual backlinks you made?
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          • Profile picture of the author martinp
            Originally Posted by CatherineMay View Post

            I found your post very encouraging. Would you please share what kind of manual backlinks you made?
            Mostly just blog commenting on high quality blogs - most of my niche sites are health related so there are plenty of blogs that accept comments e.g. 60 Must-Read Health & Fitness Blogs for 2012 | Greatist

            I also paid $5 on Fiverr to have my blog manually submitted to 20 of the top social bookmarking sites - you could do that yourself if you have the time and don't want to pay for backlinks.

            Usually if I choose the right low competition keywords this is enough.

            I do have some blogs targetting more competitive keywords and I have a more comprehensive strategy for those. I prefer to keep things simple though when building micro niche sites.

            Low competition, high profitability keywords are harder to find, but worth it when you do because you can get your site ranked and making money with relatively little effort.
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        • Profile picture of the author humbledmarket
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          Originally Posted by martinp View Post

          I don't specifically follow George Brown's Google Sniper as there were a few things about his marketing strategy I didn't agree with. However, I know from experience that micro niche sites DO still work. Very well in fact, and they rank just as easily as before if you choose your keywords correctly.

          EMD's might not be as strong as they used to be in terms of ranking easily, but I still find value in them for smaller sites.

          Just to give you an example (sorry I can't give away the domain though) - I built a site around 1st April that is now getting 350 uniques daily, making about $50 a day, and I put no more than about 2-3 hours work into it.

          The site in question is built around a low comp, long tail keyword, I used an EMD, 5 articles of 800+ words each, and manually built about 15 links to it. It's ranked on page 1 of Google for 8 keywords and ranked no.2 for the main keyword.

          Things haven't changed THAT much in the last few years - you do have to be more careful about over optimization, backlink anchor text etc. but the basics still apply.

          It's true that micro niche sites don't have the same shelf life that an authority site would have, but when they're so quick to build and require relatively little effort to get ranked it'd be a waste not to add at least a few to your arsenal.
          Got to agree with you. While the exact match domain search engine short-cut has been slightly devalue, the ExactMatchDomain itself still does matter.

          1) I find it helps with the Click through (which then help with your SERPs). Users are more likely to click on a site directed towards what they are looking for - or a well known authority site.

          2) The Keyword domain makes targeting easier. You will still see the keywords bolded in your search. Having a keyword to build your site around makes it easy to set up quickly.

          They are still very likely to rank if you do it right. One of the key as you mentioned is picking the right keywords, don't go for those that have too long a keyword (having a really long domain doesn't look professional) and avoid overly competitive terms as well.

          Thanks for your post


          Though some important other things to consider nowadays is:
          - User experience, the problem with some EMD sites are they messy layout to earn from ads.
          - Bounce rates
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  • Profile picture of the author usfemail
    Micro niche sites still work, I still have some. But be sure that you build an email list. I wish I would have done this from the beginning.

    Don't make the same mistake that I made, put that opt-in box on your site.
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  • Profile picture of the author Koolkitkat
    Google Sniper is not worth it in my opinion.
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  • Profile picture of the author halfsaint
    I've been using Google sniper for about 2 months and I've made $124 in commissions, In my opinion it does work but I wouldn't rely on traffic from Google, like he outlines in the course make a YouTube video, post on forums related to what your promoting and if its a review product your promoting maybe try out adwords!
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarevok
    I'd say that it's possible to rank with sniper sites.

    But in my honest opinion it isn't really a long term and feasible solution.

    That being said, studying SEO best practice (which some of these SEO courses may or may not contain) is always a good idea right?

    I mean the more you study about SEO, the better.

    (If that's something you want to focus on).

    So, my $.02? If that kind of thing interests you, go for it.

    I personally don't really focus on SEO but I think in many instances it can be worthwhile to study. (Regardless if you're developing "sniper" sites or otherwise, studying SEO can be worthwhile).
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    I would focus on building a real business... a business built on traffic diversity, backend products, and continuity programs. Trying to "snipe" Google probably won't flourish.
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    • Profile picture of the author beasty513
      Originally Posted by procash View Post

      PredatorSystem Turned Out To Be A Scam Webinar

      We have all heard about George Montagu Brown, and the success he had with his Google Sniper Program when it was launched a few years ago. Now, George is about to launch his PredatorSystem.com offering under a wave of publicity. Is it a scam? Probably not.
      The better question to ask, is whether it actually works, and if people who will no doubt pay for this system will make any revenue, because no doubt the promises will be coming thick and fast. What you DO need to know, is that George's previous product, the Google Sniper System no longer works as advertised, and this could be key, especially if you are planning on taking up this latest offer with the cash.
      PredatorSystem Turned Out To Be A Scam Webinar



      ***Please see the update at the bottom of this post for updated details on why you should avoid investing in George Brown's Predator System***
      ***Please note, that personal information not available in the public domain has been removed from this thread, also personal information from tickets, that may have confidentiality clauses have also been removed. The rest if the thread is the original content on the Predator Software, and genuine customer experiences. I will post a lot of negative reviews on many other forums, Facebook groups and more***
      Who is George Montagu Brown?
      George Brown is mostly known for his Google Sniper product, which made him a multi-millionaire, and the system worked to varying degrees of success, although from what we have read, most people simply (for whatever reason) could NOT make it work as in my case and I am not just a random internet user, I work as a communication officer on cruise ships. The idea was that by targeting EXACT DOMAIN MATCH domains, Google would push you up in the searches for the terms you were looking to attract traffic from, and then you were advised to place a product on the page, for sale.
      So, Did Google Sniper Work?
      It worked for some more experienced marketers, but now Google Sniper does NOT work, as per discussion I just had this evening Jan-11-2014, with one of my friends who works for Google also as an IT officer. "The reason it no longer works is because Google have changed their algorithms to deduct value, or even 'kill' websites that took advantage of the exact domain match (EDM's), so hoards of these websites have now vanished of the face of the earth - well, at least out of the search engines. But it definitely worked for a while, no doubt, and the process was taken advantage of by countless internet marketers, no doubt in the same way that PredatorSystem will be." A.D. - ITO-Google Corporation.
      What exactly is Predator System? - Back to October 2012
      "The product has not launched yet, and we will be adding a review of it as soon as it does, BUT, we would be surprised if it is not similar to the sniper system, because that is what George knows. George knows that trying to manipulate the searches is an attractive proposition, and he could be looking at the local SEO angle with the Predator System, when local business owners are approached and asked if they would like help with their local search engine rankings. It is fairly old hat now, but maybe George has a different angle. We shall see."
      "George did send out an email a few months ago mentioning local marketing for local companies, so maybe this is the product he has been working on, and then called it Predator. If this is the product, then it is absolutely nothing new, because 'local marketing' has been hammered to death now, and every marketer on the planet has jumped on board with some idea, or another, as a way to tap into the market. The problem now, is that local businesses are tired of being contacted regarding their SEO, so George may have missed the boat here."
      Should I purchase The Predator System?
      My advice would be definitely not to jump in head first, because if, as I suspect, this is based around SEO, and local marketing of businesses, chances are that you will obtain limited success. There are now just far too many people, and products trying to achieve the same thing.
      I will add to this as, and when The Predator System launches.
      Update after the predator 'webinar' was launch:


      Was The Webinar By George Brown a Scam?
      Well, it was actually all smoke and mirrors, a pre-recorded webinar, with fake scarecity thrown into make the viewer believe there was a limit on the amount of sales (similar to the false advertising on The Warrior Forum),and Predator turned out to be a glorified email scraper system (at least that is what was shown on the 'webinar', as nothing else was demonstrated). The problem is, scraping emails and sending bulk email is illegal and likely to get your IP banned by your internet service provider. Very dodgy indeed, and definitely not worth the $797 that the Predator system is being sold for.
      Sure, there is probably some use for Predator as a marketing tool for scouping together names, address, and emails, but the problem comes when you use them for email purposes. There are now rules, and regulations in most countries that would FINE you for spamming the public in the way that George Brown promotes the tool.
      Also, here are a few other problems you are likely to come up against when using The Predator:
      1) Craigslist, etc. could very easily, and probably will ban the software.
      2) Your country probably already has laws against spamming.
      3) George Brown could disappear as he offers NO money back guarantee.
      4) The shear number of people that will buy this will saturate any potential Predator had.
      5) George Brown has shown ClickBank money amounts that DID NOT come using Predator.
      6) There are far too many pitfalls on this software, and illegalities!

      The way it was marketed also shown a total lack of respect for potential buyers, and this fact has also not gone down well with a large majority of internet marketers, most of which did respect George before this launch; although now, after the launch of Predator, many of the marketers feel George has tried to pull the wool over their eyes with this highly dubious launch.
      What now for George Brown?
      George obviously makes a lot of money from his products, but just how much his CUSTOMERS make, is debatable. Google Sniper is now all but finished after Google changed the rules on manipulating the SERPS, and marketers will NOT forget what George has tried to pull off here. Also, most people will not be impressed with a launch that took almost 2 years (predator system), only to be perceived, when launched, as nothing more than Predator being just an email scraper system, and one that could get your internet banned!

      My advice is NOT to purchase The Predator System by George Brown. I will post more proof on Warrior Forum, all IM Facebook Groups, Youtube and many more.

      Quite the eye opener.

      I was familiar with the Google Sniper 2 system.


      Thanks for the research and information above.
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  • Profile picture of the author aceshigh888
    Originally Posted by jchoros View Post

    Simple question from a newbie Warrior here.

    We're talking about George Brown's Google Sniper 2.0.

    I first heard about it two years ago and I don't know what this Penguin and Panda stuff is all about but apparently Google is trying to filter these kind of sites out?

    Talk to me Warriors!
    I bought a membership. I thought I was "extremely weak". Like you could find the coles notes on that online and figure out basically what they're instructing you to do for free. Plus that 47 is a monthly fee not a one time fee as I was lead to believe. I ended up asking for a refund as I thought the product was weak. I've seen worse but it was "average" at best. And it certainly didn't "work". To get it to work you'd still have to "build everything". All he's doing is basically showing you how to pick niche markets. All the rest you have to do, so it's not exactly plug and play.
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    i am also want to know details...
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