Newbie looking for a push in the right direction

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Hello everyone!

I've just joined the forums recently, finally having enough of my own procrastination. I'm looking for a bit of advice here... you see, I am new to the internet marketing world, but I'm fairly certain I'm down with the basics. I've lurked around here for some time, learning all I can, and awhile back I tried out something many of you have probably heard of... "DotComSecrets X" by Russel Brunson, I believe. This was about a year ago, actually. I paid the $1 for 30 days of his course, and picked up on a few things. The only issue at the time was.. well, I couldn't afford to invest any money in paid ads, so eventually I sulked and got back to focusing on my day job.

Here I am now, wanting to learn more and finally jump start myself, having a little more means and time to invest into this desire. I'm looking for opinions, advice, ect. The amount of "guru" products and courses out there can be overwhelming.. I don't wish to fall for a scam, or buy into a product that just isn't worth the money.

Is there a good course out there for someone like me, something worth investing into? Should I just get back into DCSX? Just looking for some input from some more seasoned IMs.

Any and all help would be very much appreciated.
#advice #direction #newbie #push
  • Profile picture of the author a1pena
    Originally Posted by Paigeki View Post

    Hello everyone!

    I've just joined the forums recently, finally having enough of my own procrastination. I'm looking for a bit of advice here... you see, I am new to the internet marketing world, but I'm fairly certain I'm down with the basics. I've lurked around here for some time, learning all I can, and awhile back I tried out something many of you have probably heard of... "DotComSecrets X" by Russel Brunson, I believe. This was about a year ago, actually. I paid the $1 for 30 days of his course, and picked up on a few things. The only issue at the time was.. well, I couldn't afford to invest any money in paid ads, so eventually I sulked and got back to focusing on my day job.

    Here I am now, wanting to learn more and finally jump start myself, having a little more means and time to invest into this desire. I'm looking for opinions, advice, ect. The amount of "guru" products and courses out there can be overwhelming.. I don't wish to fall for a scam, or buy into a product that just isn't worth the money.

    Is there a good course out there for someone like me, something worth investing into? Should I just get back into DCSX? Just looking for some input from some more seasoned IMs.

    Any and all help would be very much appreciated.
    Hey man!

    I was in your exact shoes not to long ago. This is a good place to hang around if this is what you want out of life, Abundance, freedom, and fun (which most of us do). I invested in a program called six figure allinace with Kenster. It got me the push i needed to go forward. I tried everything half ass it was not until i actually had a laser focus it started to get rolling for me
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    • Profile picture of the author Paigeki
      Thanks for the reply! I'll be looking into some different options, but I'll certainly look into your suggestion in the mean time. Yeah it seems like this sort of thing WOULD need a good amount of focus and work, I'm well up to the challenge though.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jgowen77
    Work, learn, work more. I started in earnest about three weeks ago and it's been quite an interesting, and fairly expensive, ride thus far. I'm in with the long term in mind. I've found some good people here and a few parading as successful experts. Overall this is a fantastic forum. However, discernment and patience are vital to success.
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    • Profile picture of the author Paigeki
      Exciting yet terrifying at the same time, haha. While I'm willing to invest into this, I'm a bit afraid that the expenses might pile beyond my means. I'm by no means wealthy, just a bit of extra income that I can spare here and there, I have put aside a small savings for this though. I'll make sure to spend wisely though.
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      • Profile picture of the author ElGuapo
        Paigeki: do you feel you have stronger skills in any particular area (design, writing, handling data etc)? Do you have any particular financial goals in mind, at least to start with?
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  • Profile picture of the author Paigeki
    Financial goals? I guess mine would be to eventually make a living from IM, around $2,000 monthly if I wanted a specific, more or less. Single, student, working, renting an apartment. I don't need much. Currently I'm finishing up a semester, then breaking for summer.

    Out of the above, I'd say writing is my strongest. What I've learned so far is list building, solo ads, setting up squeeze pages, and learned my way around aweber.
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    • Profile picture of the author sethalexander
      Originally Posted by Paigeki View Post

      student
      What are you studying? Might as well take advantage of your teachers if you're paying them. There is a lot of great info all over the place but finding an in person mentor in real life can do A LOT to pushing you consistently. Especially if they're an expert on something and you can harness that in a new way for them (taking it online). Kind of a JV with a professor. If I had the knowledge I have now when I was still in school that's the way I would do things. I know many a professor I had who would've jumped at the chance to earn some side $$$.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Monetize your knowledge, experience, or your interests.

    Build a long term asset, avoid the bullshit, and stick to the basics.

    Most importantly - be patient.
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  • Profile picture of the author Heathj
    I have tried many different things. I spent a few years chasing the latest shiny toy. I have spent a lot of money on different programs, WSO's and various opportunities. And although there are tons of ways to make money on the internet, some are less expensive than others.

    For me, I picked a niche that has a lot of traffic and less competition than some of the bigger niches like make money, weight loss etc....

    I built a website around it, with an opt in form to start building a list. I am giving away a free ebook to get opt ins.

    Then I start marketing to that list as it grows. I send out lots of great content in the form of articles and then I try and sell to the list with various affiliate products I have decided to run a campaign around.

    Now, I'm at the phase of driving traffic to the site. I am just starting that process and so cannot comment too much on that.

    But, thus far, all I have had to pay for is the domain name, the hosting and aweber. The costs have been pretty low so far. I know you can pay a lot of money trying to drive traffic to your site, but like I said, I'm not there yet.

    The other tip I have FINALLY learned is....stick with one thing and learn to do it well. So, now as new ideas pop into my head, if they do not apply to my current project, I write them down to remember them and then I put away that list and have no current plans to bother with it.

    I am staying focused on this one site until I get it to work.

    Good luck, these forums are a great resource.

    Heath
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  • Profile picture of the author RichBeck
    Originally Posted by Paigeki View Post

    Hello everyone!

    I've just joined the forums recently, finally having enough of my own procrastination. I'm looking for a bit of advice here... you see, I am new to the internet marketing world, but I'm fairly certain I'm down with the basics. I've lurked around here for some time, learning all I can, and awhile back I tried out something many of you have probably heard of... "DotComSecrets X" by Russel Brunson, I believe. This was about a year ago, actually. I paid the $1 for 30 days of his course, and picked up on a few things. The only issue at the time was.. well, I couldn't afford to invest any money in paid ads, so eventually I sulked and got back to focusing on my day job.

    Here I am now, wanting to learn more and finally jump start myself, having a little more means and time to invest into this desire. I'm looking for opinions, advice, ect. The amount of "guru" products and courses out there can be overwhelming.. I don't wish to fall for a scam, or buy into a product that just isn't worth the money.

    Is there a good course out there for someone like me, something worth investing into? Should I just get back into DCSX? Just looking for some input from some more seasoned IMs.

    Any and all help would be very much appreciated.
    Paigeki,

    If I were in your shoes..... I would forgot about everything..... and focus on Copywriting.

    Buy the following:

    Power Copywriting for The Internet - Bob Serling - A Step-By-Step Guide To Writing Million-Dollar Advertising Copy (This is NOT an affiliate link....)

    Read it end to end as many times as you need until you "get it." I would suggest 3 to 4 times at least.

    Write 4 or 5 sales letters based on the formula in the e-book.

    Next, enroll in Paul Hancox's program:

    Become An ULTIMATE Copywriter: Master The Critical Skill Of Selling With Words - Here's How... (This is NOT an affiliate link....)

    Write 7 or 8 more sales letters...

    Finally, enroll Vin Montello's:

    Conversion Training (This is NOT an affiliate link....)

    Write 10 to 15 more sales letters...

    Congratulations! You are now ahead of 99.9999% of the "IMers" on the planet!

    I know....

    You're wondering... What the hell?

    What do I do now?

    First, you can sell your Copywriting services.....

    Second, you can JV with Product Creators....

    Third, you can create your own products.... and write your own copy. Check out the following post by Harlan:

    What I Do INSTEAD of Writing For Clients

    These are just three possibilities that pop into my head..... There is a myriad of other options...

    Always remember this.....

    "Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." - Thomas A. Edison


    God Bless,

    Rich Beck BCIP, MCSD, MCIS
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  • Profile picture of the author StevenJones
    Alright... So you think anyone can become a word magician? Weird advice, but that is me being frank.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gonzosan
      Don't invest in a "system" but learn from everyone and find what works best for you. There is always money to be made. Understand that there is always some problem that needs to be resolved and once you realize that you'll understand that there are literally billions of ideas that can make you money.

      Best of all since you're doing it online you can reach billions of people as well. I know that's pretty vague information to go off of, but too many people forget the basics. Look at the problem then find a solution then sell it.
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    • Profile picture of the author RichBeck
      Originally Posted by StevenJones View Post

      Alright... So you think anyone can become a word magician? Weird advice, but that is me being frank.
      Steven,

      I think you are missing what I wrote....

      Yes, anyone can become a "competent" Copywriter... No doubt at all.

      The huge problem is..... 99% of the people are not willing to put in the number of hours required....

      You can argue exactly how many hours it will take to reach "competency." It varies from person to person... It could be 500 hours.... It could be 1,000 hours... or more!


      We are not talking about your so called "IM business" where you earn $10,000 a month after reading an e-book.... :rolleyes:


      Now, having that "competency," will you be able to compete with the "big gun" Copywriters or "word magicians" as you called them..... and earn $10,000 plus a percentage per sales letter? No.

      You will need to slowly build your reputation and spend many, many more hours honing your skills to compete with the "big guns."

      The bottom line.... There is... and will always be a strong demand for "competent mid-level" Copywriters.

      As I wrote above, you can leverage those Copywriting skills in many ways.... you are not "stuck" writing only for clients.

      I know this goes against the "get rich quick" mindset seen so much here....

      Instead, I'm recommending learning a real, tangible skill you can profit from in each and every future endeavor.

      God Bless,

      Rich Beck BCIP, MCSD, MCIS
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      • Profile picture of the author StevenJones
        Originally Posted by RichBeck View Post

        Steven,

        I think you are missing what I wrote....

        Yes, anyone can become a "competent" Copywriter... No doubt at all.

        The huge problem is..... 99% of the people are not willing to put in the number of hours required....

        You can argue exactly how many hours it will take to reach "competency." It varies from person to person... It could be 500 hours.... It could be 1,000 hours... or more!


        We are not talking about your so called "IM business" where you earn $10,000 a month after reading an e-book.... :rolleyes:


        Now, having that "competency," will you be able to compete with the "big gun" Copywriters or "word magicians" as you called them..... and earn $10,000 plus a percentage per sales letter? No.

        You will need to slowly build your reputation and spend many, many more hours honing your skills to compete with the "big guns."

        The bottom line.... There is... and will always be a strong demand for "competent mid-level" Copywriters.

        As I wrote above, you can leverage those Copywriting skills in many ways.... you are not "stuck" writing only for clients.

        I know this goes against the "get rich quick" mindset seen so much here....

        Instead, I'm recommending learning a real, tangible skill you can profit from in each and every future endeavor.

        God Bless,

        Rich Beck BCIP, MCSD, MCIS
        Still copy writing is not for everyone. If you were a good copy writer you'd know.
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        • Profile picture of the author RichBeck
          Originally Posted by StevenJones View Post

          Still copy writing is not for everyone. If you were a good copy writer you'd know.
          Steven,

          I never wrote Copywriting is for everyone as a profession.....

          I did write.... It is an essential skill for all IMers.... And most people are simply too lazy to put in the time to become "competent"...

          I'm not a "good copy writer" because there is no such thing.... :rolleyes: to the best of my knowledge.

          However, I'm a good Copywriter....

          God Bless,

          Rich Beck BCIP, MCSD, MCIS
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  • Profile picture of the author Malcolm Thomas
    As another poster above me noted, focus on sticking to the basics, make sure that you build a list, and always be taking action and learning from your mistakes.

    That is the ticket to achieving success online.
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  • Profile picture of the author t3cn1c0
    Everyone was once a newbie, but what separates the successful ones from the failure is the ability to never give up.

    This forum is rich with info that any newbie can easily get into, not to mention ZERO investment. Read and test out what you learned, then stick to the ones that work for you.

    IMO, you should start learning how to build email list and copywriting as well as adviced by RichBeck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paigeki
    Thanks so much for all of your suggestions and advice everyone. I've even gotten some offers for help in pms, all of you have been wonderful and informative. I'm continuing my research today, don't want to jump into anything TOO soon, heheh.
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    • Profile picture of the author ElGuapo
      RichBeck's advice is solid. Copywriting is the number one weapon you can have in marketing.

      If you commit to developing your skill at it, then you can write your own paychecks: provide copywriting services for Warriors (presells, sales letters, even autoresponder chains); an article-writing service for which you could charge a good whack; writing successful ads for PPC, solo mailings; creating your own product whose success - especially with affiliates - would be based on a strong sales letter.
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  • Profile picture of the author jpsween88
    Starting off and staying committed to something is the hardest part. I spent over 2 years tossing and turning over every new "get rich" product that came out. I learned fast that most of it was all sales hype and very little information.

    I sent you a PM about some more info
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  • Profile picture of the author Apra Barua
    Some courses are really good. But even good courses will not help unless you find something which you can work on, to build your online empire by taking required action everyday. A definite actionable plan and goal setting helps a lot...
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    • Profile picture of the author chiqita
      Yeah, there's a LOT of great stuff available here. It can leave you overwhelmed with which ones to go for. But really at the end of the day, it boils down to being focus, discipline and not giving up! This is definitely one of the biggest challenge in any business.
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  • Profile picture of the author nitesh
    I suggest to buy a PLR graphics package and some good PLR ebooks to keep your cost down and performance high.
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  • Profile picture of the author TedTheodore
    Paigeki,
    Like you..a while ago..was also a 'newbie'.
    Overwhelmed by the amount of products out there..
    I was totally confused which way to go !
    To cut a long story short..
    I found someone who took me by the hand..( of course the hand that had the money in it )
    & pretty much showed me the way.
    I was dumbfounded by its simplicity..
    because I always thought..'there's a secret'..
    but there isn't..!
    No Magic Button..Backdoor..Loophole..etc
    Having said that..there is one thing that's absolutely needed..
    & that's WORK !!

    PM me if you'd like to chat further.
    Would love to help.

    -Ted-
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  • Profile picture of the author acharles
    Originally Posted by Paigeki View Post

    Hello everyone!

    I've just joined the forums recently, finally having enough of my own procrastination. I'm looking for a bit of advice here... you see, I am new to the internet marketing world, but I'm fairly certain I'm down with the basics. I've lurked around here for some time, learning all I can, and awhile back I tried out something many of you have probably heard of... "DotComSecrets X" by Russel Brunson, I believe. This was about a year ago, actually. I paid the $1 for 30 days of his course, and picked up on a few things. The only issue at the time was.. well, I couldn't afford to invest any money in paid ads, so eventually I sulked and got back to focusing on my day job.

    Here I am now, wanting to learn more and finally jump start myself, having a little more means and time to invest into this desire. I'm looking for opinions, advice, ect. The amount of "guru" products and courses out there can be overwhelming.. I don't wish to fall for a scam, or buy into a product that just isn't worth the money.

    Is there a good course out there for someone like me, something worth investing into? Should I just get back into DCSX? Just looking for some input from some more seasoned IMs.

    Any and all help would be very much appreciated.
    I've been guilty of exactly the same procrastination as yourself and am a sufferer of shiny object syndrome, but , I've decided to start over and hold myself accountable by starting up a blog (1st post yesterday) to help me keep track of where I'm at, what I need to do, what I'm going wrong and to help me focus.

    I'll be following this thread closely to see what advice the guys have for you as it will surely help me too.

    Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author ContentIn48Hours
    When I first started, I spent way too much time learning. My best advice is too pick a marketing concept that you are interested in and focus on that.

    Most people who are inexperienced buy product after product and don't implement any of it. If you run into problems along the way, feel free to ask.

    Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author loganwenger
    Originally Posted by Paigeki View Post

    Hello everyone!

    I've just joined the forums recently, finally having enough of my own procrastination. I'm looking for a bit of advice here... you see, I am new to the internet marketing world, but I'm fairly certain I'm down with the basics. I've lurked around here for some time, learning all I can, and awhile back I tried out something many of you have probably heard of... "DotComSecrets X" by Russel Brunson, I believe. This was about a year ago, actually. I paid the $1 for 30 days of his course, and picked up on a few things. The only issue at the time was.. well, I couldn't afford to invest any money in paid ads, so eventually I sulked and got back to focusing on my day job.

    Here I am now, wanting to learn more and finally jump start myself, having a little more means and time to invest into this desire. I'm looking for opinions, advice, ect. The amount of "guru" products and courses out there can be overwhelming.. I don't wish to fall for a scam, or buy into a product that just isn't worth the money.

    Is there a good course out there for someone like me, something worth investing into? Should I just get back into DCSX? Just looking for some input from some more seasoned IMs.

    Any and all help would be very much appreciated.

    As a six year Internet marketing failure whom is in massive debt, I recently discovered the very simple truth about making money online. Here is something to think about and I quote Alex Jeffreys:

    There are a million ways to make a million dollars. However, to make a million dollars you should only do a few things.
    I recently came across this post by Alex http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...ey-period.html and everything made total sense to me and for $10, well I can add that to my existing debt.

    Basically, get a domain name, hosting, an autoresponder account and everything else will fall into place. Alex goes into more detail in his product, obviously, but after I watched The Money Trigger, everything came together.

    Best,
    Logan
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  • Profile picture of the author jchengery
    Hello Paigeki,

    Information overload is one of the greatest deterrents to succeeding online, both in the forms of the "crap" that is out there and the actual good information and then the actual good information that is out there in many different fields (copywriting, article writing, JVs, product creation, content curation, Kindle publishing, etc., etc.).

    It's hard to keep everything straight or knowing exactly what you need or don't need. I echo those who would look toward 1-3 mentors in areas that complement each other that emphasize your skills/interests and following them and their advice. I would take note of RichBeck's post on the courses he mentions, especially if you're interested in copywriting. He's also correct in the number of avenues you can pursue with copywriting.

    Copywriting, like information product creation and Kindle publications, will not go out of business or style anytime soon- people are always in need of information, and thus, online and offline marketers will always need people who can write quality sales letters to sell those products. Thus, if you have an interest in writing/copywriting and are willing to put in the time and effort required (and every profitable avenue online and offline does require that - WORK - there's no "magic buttons"), you can be successful in time.

    Hope this helps! Good luck in your efforts- keep us informed, and don't be afraid to ask for further advice or assistance.

    Take care,

    Joe Chengery
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