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I have just watched a sales video by Ryan Deiss where he claimed that blogging was dead. He was talking about building authority websites by finding and paying writers, who already have a following in their niche, to write for your site. Ryan claims that not only are you buying content but also traffic since these writers will put out lots of social signals to their following about their posts on your site. Doing the same with a number of writers gets lots of social signals pointing back at your site and gives it lots of authority in Google's eyes. It is then up to the sire owner to monetise this traffic. The first problem I see is getting people to write for a site that is new and has no authority. It's a bit of a chicken and egg situation. I would be interested to hear peoples thoughts on this model.
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  • Profile picture of the author sanhal
    There are a lot of bloggers who don't think it is dead and are happy with their results but I guess it depends on what you want to achieve from your blog.

    Sandy
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  • Profile picture of the author Greedy
    LOL no blogging isn't going anywhere.

    He is just using as a figure of speech, saying "there a bigger and better money makers."

    Which could also be debated and is somewhat vague, it really depends on your niche and your product what site is the best.

    I've been making plenty of money blogging, and it is only increasing.
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    • Profile picture of the author angshuy2k
      Now, lets have a look at it like this way, blogging:

      Have got several blogs and many of you have them as well. I do keep updating my blogs every other day with unique content and keep my visitors engaged. What I get in return is that, some loyal viewers as well as some customers for my various products and enough to pay for myself and my family living.

      So, what are my blogs about, I have several blogs on SEO, Marketing techniques, pregnancy websites, legal advice sites, gadgets sites, jewellery sites and many more. They all provide new info, coupons, worlds trends and many others almost like a portal. Have got some regular readers who come in and read.

      Now, How I do many money out of them: Banner ads; selling clickbank products; ask guest blog writers to write quality content for their products as well and show case them, sell numerous digital products as well as services.

      My blogging makes me to run my whole family in the UK. You can imagine how hard it might be because many of you are like me who was made redundant. But anyway, blogging is one thing that kept me going and soon I will finish my university degree ( I think I have made a mistake ) shouldn't have gone to uni for further education after loosing the job. Should have kept working as a freelancer IT guy in Kent, UK. But there you go, blogging and writing about new stuff does help me going and passive income became the main stream income and which is mostly earned from referral.

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    • Profile picture of the author kumarvijay
      Originally Posted by Greedy View Post

      LOL no blogging isn't going anywhere.

      He is just using as a figure of speech, saying "there a bigger and better money makers."

      Which could also be debated and is somewhat vague, it really depends on your niche and your product what site is the best.
      Agree with you,you give clear idea.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shaolinsteve
    Blogging is a huge topic and as Sandy said, people are happy with their results... look at Pat Flynn for example... he is always making money from his blog (which is only 1 stream of income for him).

    If you have a very responsive list, and they interact with your blog posts that's not exactly dead, or if your blog and posts have been optimized for SEO and you're getting good traffic that's not exactly dead. I know that this is not exactly what Ryan was talking about so don't get caught up about the "figure of speech" as Greedy puts it.

    If you really wanted to know if blogging is dead, go and ask Glen Allsopp from ViperChill, I bet he would have a good answer
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  • Profile picture of the author BlueFrogSEO
    Blogging isn't going nowhere fast... It's a great tool for driving traffic to your site. Ryan Deiss method sounds good and would work extremely well in addition to your own Bloggs.

    I like the question on blogging though, a good topic and I'm interested to see what other comments spring up.

    Thanks

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  • Profile picture of the author ATTEK
    No no no I make much of money using a blog system
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Hill SEO
    I kind of get where Ryan is coming from but have to disagree him...I see blogging as one person's journey on the way to establishing themselves as an authoritative source in a given field.

    We all know that automation is the way forward right...? Sure you could outsource this and do it quicker but will it ever be better? Steve mentioned Pat Flynn...a great example of how blogging is not dead and how that personal touch will always continue to resonate with people.

    I think as a theoretical business model it makes a lot of sense and there are definite advantages. Take Pat Flynn again (not a stalker, I promise) - you take him out of the equation and SPI is brought to it's knees as he is the USP. With this method you could quite easily set up multiple sites and put them on auto-pilot...

    Personally, I think there is nothing better than seeing someone strike success with a blog they have nurtured over time. Sure blogging is slow and can feel like you are speaking in an empty room but when it does take off, the returns can be exponential.

    In short, I do not think blogging will ever "be dead" but realise that you do not always have to do things yourself. This method is not for me and I will continue to blog. Good luck to everyone who tries this, I dare say there will some success.
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  • Profile picture of the author PeterKnight
    When listening to sales pitches is wise to dial your inner-bs-detector to full strength.

    Blogging is actually bigger than ever, I'd say, and only growing. Especially when a lot of people are seeing the downsides and limitations of FB/Google plus and Twitter. Numbers back it up, blogspot and WordPress.com are top traffic sites and WP downloads get higher with every new release.
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  • Profile picture of the author butters
    No way, a marketer using scarcity, unfounded claims and hype to sell a product! (Sarcasm )
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  • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
    Originally Posted by frank1475 View Post

    I have just watched a sales video by Ryan Deiss where he claimed that blogging was dead.
    Aw, well - if he said it in a sales video then in HAS to be true

    Now, my ClickBank affiliate blog has generated $486.51 in the last 2 and half days so I'm going to go out on a limb and say, blogging isn't dead. Proclaiming things dead as some sort of linkbait should be though
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  • Profile picture of the author Malcolm Thomas
    Blogging is NOT dead. Blogging (when done right) can be very beneficial to your branding and ability to connect with your subscribers. Blogging still works.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lightlysalted
    If anything, Google's recent changes have boosted the roll of bloggers, especially in terms of article length, inclusion of pictures and repeat visitor traffic. Personally I would consider paying content writers on sites like textbroker to write articles.
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  • Profile picture of the author wendyann
    I have read a couple of these emails too and, while it may work in theory, I don't think it would work for everyone. What exactly is he selling at the end of it anyway?

    Originally Posted by frank1475 View Post

    I have just watched a sales video by Ryan Deiss where he claimed that blogging was dead. He was talking about building authority websites by finding and paying writers, who already have a following in their niche, to write for your site. Ryan claims that not only are you buying content but also traffic since these writers will put out lots of social signals to their following about their posts on your site. Doing the same with a number of writers gets lots of social signals pointing back at your site and gives it lots of authority in Google's eyes. It is then up to the sire owner to monetise this traffic. The first problem I see is getting people to write for a site that is new and has no authority. It's a bit of a chicken and egg situation. I would be interested to hear peoples thoughts on this model.
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  • Profile picture of the author gabibeowulf
    He did not say "dead", he said "broken". He's using an angle to sell to you. His product is pretty good nevertheless and I believe it's a smart twist on traditional blogging.

    Anyway, there are plenty of successful bloggers. Think of John Chow or Perez Hilton. I bet you heard of them, haven't you?

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  • Profile picture of the author dome
    When Google die ===> Blogging DEAD
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    • Profile picture of the author fin
      Or you could build up your blog until successful bloggers want to guest post on it to drive traffic to their own blog.

      Pay them or not, he has only talked about ONE traffic generation method.
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        "Whatever you're doing now is dead. Long live my new product..."

        Same old, same old. :rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
      Originally Posted by dome View Post

      When Google die ===> Blogging DEAD
      That's the funniest thing I've read so far this morning. There are plenty of bloggers who don't rely on Google for their traffic.

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    GURU trash talk.
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  • Profile picture of the author CaesarSEO
    It's funny how these guys would wake up some day and claim something is dead, it's just REALLY funny lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author Wayne
    I think Ryan was saying the way that people do blogging is dead, not that blogging itself is dead. I watched through the long video, and it looked to me like the sites they build for you are even built on Wordpress. With his program, instead of writing the posts yourself, you are paying someone else to write the posts, and hopefully you would get good writers which would also build more traffic for your site. I don't understand how they say you get a $2000 website for free, but then it costs $97 and probably a lot more with their upsells.
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    • Profile picture of the author livitweb
      I believe it depends on the type of blog you put up and your purposes for creating and maintaining one. If you do blogging in order to earn, you have to monetize your site properly and promote it so that you will gain lots of traffic to your site. You need to configure your site so that the traffic you get from visitors will convert into sales and/or commissions for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
    Originally Posted by frank1475 View Post

    I have just watched a sales video by Ryan Deiss where he claimed that blogging was dead.
    I stopped reading your post after this first sentence.

    If Ryan Deiss is saying blogging is dead, then he is simply unable to sell "blog your way to millions" info products anymore. That's really all there is to it.
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  • Profile picture of the author ceenote100
    Blogging isn't going anywhere anytime soon. People were saying the same thing about article writing a couple of years ago.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
    Ryan is known for killing many things during his launches.

    He's very good at this "killing" thing.
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  • Profile picture of the author ejullya
    Hi Frank,

    Of course Ryan is going to say that blogging is dead. It gets your attention and as a matter of fact so much so that now we are having a thread about it on this forum.

    When you listen to this video further on he does not say that blogging is dead, he just wants you to jump on his bandwagon and pay for the services he offers.

    Certainly, many things have changed, and small, crappy adsense blogs are the thing of the past.

    A blog that offers fresh and value content is going to stay. Yeah some of the things are changing, like social interactions but that is OK. Bloggers need to adapt to changes. But for that matter any business, be it online or offline needs to adapt to and accept changes and new developments to keep up with 21st century.
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  • Blogging certainly isn't dead. And yes, he's using this as a way to sell his product.

    It's possible to make a good amount of money blogging, but you have to monetize well with great, relevant affiliate offers.
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  • Profile picture of the author coconutisa
    Who the heck is Ryan Reid's ? So is this you do marketing to sell your stuff? Wow!
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    What a crock of shit.

    They're just reclycling crap and propaganda in order to pimp their latest BS.

    Why are people so attracted to this garbage?

    Quit chasing dreams. Get to work.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
      Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

      What a crock of shit.

      They're just reclycling crap and propaganda in order to pimp their latest BS.

      Why are people so attracted to this garbage?

      Quit chasing dreams. Get to work.
      Can we still chase girls?

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  • Profile picture of the author sal64
    Originally Posted by frank1475 View Post

    I have just watched a sales video by Ryan Deiss where he claimed that blogging was dead. He was talking about building authority websites by finding and paying writers, who already have a following in their niche, to write for your site. Ryan claims that not only are you buying content but also traffic since these writers will put out lots of social signals to their following about their posts on your site. Doing the same with a number of writers gets lots of social signals pointing back at your site and gives it lots of authority in Google's eyes. It is then up to the sire owner to monetise this traffic. The first problem I see is getting people to write for a site that is new and has no authority. It's a bit of a chicken and egg situation. I would be interested to hear peoples thoughts on this model.
    Why don't you pay the money, sign up and see for yourself?
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  • Profile picture of the author Devin X
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    Quite the opposite is happening, actually. "Blogging" (building authority sites) is fast becoming one of the last things someone can do online that is sustainable and scalable. (in terms of digital marketing)

    Oh, and typically, when a guru says something is dying...he is just selling you one of his "shortcuts/systems" which are either outdated or becoming outdated.
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  • Profile picture of the author betterwtveter
    Wow really? Blogging is definately not dead. I believe it will still be around for a very long time. It is still one of my main streams of income to grow my business.
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  • Profile picture of the author sal64
    Flogging is not dead!
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  • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
    You can make up a pile of threads just by writing:
    "Is [insert your IM strategy here] dead?"

    And the answer is always: "No it still works just fine
    as long as you keep in mind the end user and what
    THEY want."

    Online high quality, unique, highly targeted content
    rules.

    That's never going to change and bloggers who are
    delivering that are always going to get targeted traffic.

    What they do with that traffic is up to them.

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    • Profile picture of the author sal64
      Andrew,

      I think it's actually best to explain what the OP was on about.

      Deiss has launched a new product. His premise is that blogging is broken.

      He makes a valid point about people spending hundreds of hours writing content that no one sees.

      What his product is about is instead of blogging, create an authority site which uses content from established authors and experts. why? Because they have a ready made audience and reach. Reach is somethign that 99% of wannabe bloggers do not have.

      So that in itself is a strategy worthy of merit in my opinion. It differs from the usual stuff about how to make money with blogs. For example, people say that you should guest blog for traffic, but if no one reads that person's blog... is it worth the effort? No matter how good your content is.

      what I am seeing in the OP is a classic buying objection. He wants to believe but doesn't want to outlay the initial $97. well that's my take on it. Given that the training does teach you how and where to find writers, I don't see this thread as a discussion, but rather a validation seeking comment by the OP.

      Sal

      Originally Posted by AndrewCavanagh View Post

      You can make up a pile of threads just by writing:
      "Is [insert your IM strategy here] dead?"

      And the answer is always: "No it still works just fine
      as long as you keep in mind the end user and what
      THEY want."

      Online high quality, unique, highly targeted content
      rules.

      That's never going to change and bloggers who are
      delivering that are always going to get targeted traffic.

      What they do with that traffic is up to them.

      Kindest regards,
      Andrew Cavanagh
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    so funny this horse shit comes out about every 4 weeks nowadays. Learn to put your blinkers on, and do some work. Otherwise, you will get nothing done.

    Blogging for us even after the google updates is working better, becuase all the trashy and auto crap blogs get penalized at present and moved us up in rankings.

    So no blogging does not work the same any more, if you give your blog good content, it will work EVEN BETTER THAN BEFORE!

    There I said it.
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    • Profile picture of the author sal64
      Originally Posted by celente View Post


      So no blogging does not work the same any more, if you give your blog good content, it will work EVEN BETTER THAN BEFORE!

      There I said it.
      well cut my legs off at the knees and call me a tripod!

      This is exactly what the product / video in question is all about.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    People want results without any effort.

    "I know, I'll just rehash someones else's crap in order to get my face in front of someone elses audience because I don't have time to create my own content....."

    Total laziness.

    Established marketers push this stuff because they know it sells - because people are dumb enough to buy into it. That's the bottom line.

    Their target market are people that want instant riches, want push button results, want to invest in shortcuts.

    Guess what?

    They make the sales, they sell you this garbage, then 12 months later, you're here posting on Warriorforums saying "I remember that course, I wasted $5,000 on it, but I lost interest and gave up, or ...it didn't work, and I gave up .....or, it was a waste of time and money"

    Meanwhile, the same "expert" is rehashing the next piece of bullshit to sell you the same rubbish all over again.

    And so the cycle continues, over and over and over.

    I've been at this now since 2004, and I can tell you in all honesty - if you want to make money online - quit chasing bullshit. Get to work. There is no easy way.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarkBrook
    wooopss how come blogging is dead until unless you are producing uniqueness and quality it will never every going anywhere but if you are still supning or copy pasting yes it will dead for you.
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    • Profile picture of the author edlewis
      Alot of negativity in this thread...especially considering that most of those complaining don't even seem to have the slightest grasp of the nature of the product being discussed.

      That's the really funny thing...

      For one, I'm pretty sure he didn't say "dead", but "broken"...

      Anyone who has been around for even a little while knows this is just a way to rile people up and get attention. But that doesn't also mean there isn't some validity to it.

      It also doesn't mean that "blogging" in a traditional sense won't work for people...

      What's being talked about here is taking a different look at things...looking at this more like a publisher than a writer or blogger.

      You're still going to use WordPress (unless maybe you prefer Joomla), and you are still going to be publishing content...some of it may even be your own....while some of it may be content you pay outsourcers for...and some that you pay "experts" for.

      It's really not much different than "blogging", if you want to be honest. More like a "twist" on it.

      There are advantages and disadvantages to using this model...

      One disadvantage would be COST....it will cost you some startup money to get a site like this going because you will be paying for content. Obviously, if you are an expert and want to start your own personal blog...cost is hardly a factor as you can build it with WordPress and a theme(free or premium) and start filling it with all of your own content almost immediately.

      An advantage though is that you don't necessarily need to be an "expert" to start. If you decide to use this model in the "Paleo Diet" niche, you don't need to be an "expert" like Robb Wolf or Mark Sisson. You can build more of a "magazine"-style of site and leverage the authority of others instead.

      It's no different than the "reporter" strategy Allen Says talked about YEARS ago...or the idea of having an infoproduct or book/ebook created by interviewing an "expert".

      The idea itself is hardly "new"...in fact, it's just taking the whole "guest blogging" idea and spinning it on it's head a little bit.


      BOTH of these models are legit...in fact, in a way they both help support the other in the long run.

      Those who build authority sites like this need "bloggers" for content, and experts with their own traditional blogs can use the authority sites to get PAID for content while also getting prestige, validation, and even traffic.

      It's a win-win...not a "zero sum" game here.



      Last point....

      The idea that this is somehow a "get-rich-quick" idea is kind of funny...

      Here is a guy talking about building a site that is MORE than just a "blog" and more like an online magazine....talking about paying for content, not the latest "whiz-bang" SEO trick, scheme, or push-button software....talking about investing money and building a brand, a list, and a business, not just slapping up affiliate ads everywhere(aka "thin affiliate sites")....

      ...and this is what is labeled as "get-rich-quick"?

      I gotta be honest with ya...that's confusing as all hell to me.
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  • Profile picture of the author jentheray
    At the end of the day it comes down to results. As others have said, there are many people—warrior forum members included—who still generate big numbers using blogs. However, one of the biggest things we have to do to make money in IM is diversify. So I would say if you are already making money and have the capital to reinvest in building your online presence, why not do both? Having an “authoritative” website that’s bringing in organic traffic is always a good thing. So diversify, split test and see what happens. Don’t be too quick to believe everything you hear; everyone has their own agenda. Consider the source of the information, and unless the person has results backing their information it’s not worth listening. Numbers don’t lie.
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  • Profile picture of the author sal64
    There's a lot of ego, if not testosterone in some of the replies on here.

    Perhaps people should understand the product first before canning it. Of course blogging is not dead. all we have is blogging with a twist to maximize visitors and rankings. But hey, just because a successful marketer comes out with it, then it must be crap.

    Like any method, it will only be as good as you make it. But at least understand what it is before spouting off BS criticism and big noting oneself.

    For the record, the methods and product both have merit.
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  • Profile picture of the author mindtricks18
    Don't think about it " that Blogging Is Dead", you should Always think to develop high quality article (content) , It is very important to write quality posts for your blog. search Engine can filter to poor quality and duplicate content not block to search any quality content .
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    • Profile picture of the author edlewis
      One more thing...

      There can also be hybrid's using this model...not everything is black-and-white.

      Two examples off the top of my head are CopyBlogger and Pat Flynn.

      CopyBlogger takes the concept of "content marketing" to another level, something talked about with this model too. They also don't slap up ads everywhere that lead visitors away from their site, instead choosing to use that space to really focus on listbuilding and promoting their own stuff.

      It's not a site built around one person..it's more of a brand.

      You may look at Pat Flynn as just a "blogger", but he's more of a hybrid. For one, he uses other people's content on his site especially in the form of his podcast.

      However, unlike CopyBlogger he has built his brand around himself. There are clearly some advantages to this, and some possible disadvantages.

      Neither model is "dead"...and it's not one or the other, it can even be a combo of both.
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  • Blogging is booming and is not dead for the time being and is also not going anywhere. It's just a phrase to bring awareness that blogging is a stream to make good amount of money.
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  • Profile picture of the author thedark
    Originally Posted by frank1475 View Post

    I have just watched a sales video by Ryan Deiss where he claimed that blogging was dead. He was talking about building authority websites by finding and paying writers, who already have a following in their niche, to write for your site. Ryan claims that not only are you buying content but also traffic since these writers will put out lots of social signals to their following about their posts on your site. Doing the same with a number of writers gets lots of social signals pointing back at your site and gives it lots of authority in Google's eyes. It is then up to the sire owner to monetise this traffic. The first problem I see is getting people to write for a site that is new and has no authority. It's a bit of a chicken and egg situation. I would be interested to hear peoples thoughts on this model.
    Will you believe every crap told by IMers who always try to sell you something ?
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Not only is blogging dead but so is...

      Charlie Chaplin
      Hula Hoops
      Silly Putty
      Drive In Movies
      The Ben Afleck Fan Club
      The Brady Bunch
      New Coke

      And controversy at Internet Marketing Forums

      The last one was a joke in case you missed it.

      ** Disclaimer ** I am in no way responsible for how you use or misuse the
      above information.
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      • Profile picture of the author celente
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        Not only is blogging dead but so is...

        Charlie Chaplin
        Hula Hoops
        Silly Putty
        Drive In Movies
        The Ben Afleck Fan Club
        The Brady Bunch
        New Coke

        And controversy at Internet Marketing Forums

        The last one was a joke in case you missed it.

        ** Disclaimer ** I am in no way responsible for how you use or misuse the
        above information.
        haha,

        The only things I wish would die, would be the THE DEATH OF..... threads.

        I mean seriously...comon!
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    • Profile picture of the author Anne0521
      Nope...I don't think so!

      Blogging helps a lot of people earn money..blogging is still effective and many internet marketers use it till this day to promote their products. Of course you have to start from the scratch being a new site and all, you need to build a strong follower. Just post quality contents constantly to make your blog active. If you build your site with SEO in mind then its better.
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    • Profile picture of the author newmarket
      Yes, it past away tomorrow.
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  • Profile picture of the author RogozRazvan
    For this guy (Deiss) everything is dead as long as he's got something to sell. This is why I've stopped following his updates long time ago - he's like the 5PM news.
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  • Profile picture of the author deekay
    How blogging started--- Blogging is nothing but extension of static websites which we still see on internet. Blogging or web logging just gave a twist in presentation of information in unique and personal way.
    But with the advent of social media sice 2010 now blogging or just any website has got new dimension i.e. social presence. Ryan deiss concept is making use of this dimension in you site or blog to reach broader audience in your niche.
    You can carry on with your individual blog posts as usual but if you apply this strategy then you will increase your traffic manifold.
    This concept will benefit you in multiple way...
    SEO- as your social presence will increase by riding the social benefit of your guest authors, you will get boost in your social SEO
    Traffic- as you will receive traffic from your normal visitors as well as additional traffic from authors following
    Money- boost in your revenue from increase in traffic
    Work Load- You just have to select high profile authors for your guest posts OR if your receive any guest post request then select author with high social media presence....

    Please add more benefits from this strategy...
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  • Profile picture of the author fated82
    No, blogging is not dead. I have built significant traffic using my blog. It's still alive and kicking.

    I like the idea though, hiring influential blogger to blog for us.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dazzling Content
    What he's saying is still blogging. Of course, he's just trying to stir controversy to hype up his product. Marketers do it all the time.
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  • Profile picture of the author infoway
    Blogging won't ever die. Bloggers or blogging will remain alive to make money. To improve personal or professional networking blogging won't ever die.
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    • Profile picture of the author fin
      It's definitely a weird strategy to be promoting to dream chasers.

      Will they have enough money to pay bloggers with big audiences to write for them? Will they feckle.

      It would cost hundreds and hundreds to persuade someone with a name to write for you + pimp you around to everyone they know.

      It would take a lot of articles to build up an audience for yourself and that's only if your blog is good enough that they want to come back.

      Or you could guest post on blogs that have a big audience, which might take longer but you wouldn't be throwing $10,000 around to try and get an audience.
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by fin View Post

        It's definitely a weird strategy to be promoting to dream chasers.

        Will they have enough money to pay bloggers with big audiences to write for them? Will they feckle.
        Somehow I doubt this is a major concern for Deiss and company. As long as they can scrape up the initial $97, anything that happens after that is not his concern. If they jump in without sufficient resources, who is to blame?

        It's the old "run the whole school into the net and sort out the bycatch later" maneuver.

        Like I said before, same old, same old...
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        • Profile picture of the author sal64
          Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

          Somehow I doubt this is a major concern for Deiss and company. As long as they can scrape up the initial $97, anything that happens after that is not his concern. If they jump in without sufficient resources, who is to blame?

          It's the old "run the whole school into the net and sort out the bycatch later" maneuver.

          Like I said before, same old, same old...
          Actually he is up front about there being costs involved. Namely to pay writers. In fact, this si one of the most hype free promos I have seen in along while (yeah clever marketing etc). But at least he is up front about it.

          His claim is that it will cost to get writers, but he shows you how to do it. some have stated that good marketers only write and publish for themselves, but this isn't targeted at getting good marketers to write for you. It's about other niches, and approaching recognized experts / authors in that industry.

          Entrepreneur.com is a great example of this type of site. My friend is a twice author about social media, so is considered an expert. But he isn't a household name. But they are still happy for him to write articles for him, and he gets additional exposure for his books.

          Although I doubt it, I hope this clarifies things somewhat.

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          • Profile picture of the author fin
            Originally Posted by sal64 View Post


            Entrepreneur.com is a great example of this type of site.
            Great example.

            I'm sure people buying the product will have a site as big as Entrepreneur.com.
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            • Profile picture of the author sal64
              Originally Posted by fin View Post

              Great example.

              I'm sure people buying the product will have a site as big as Entrepreneur.com.
              Probably not... then again, he's not promising they will. Once again, another case of taking a comment out of context and seeing what you want to see. I gave the example of a site that accepts authorities to write for them and the relationship it creates with my friend who contributes. Never said that everyone will end up having a site like this.

              For the record...

              I am not endorsing Deiss or anyone else for that matter. Nor do I advocate that people accept claims etc on face value.

              what i do believe, however is that one should always keep an open mind and be open to new ideas. You never know what you may learn.

              If you or anyone else do something successfully and then create a how-to product around it to make money, then I don't see the problem with that at all.

              But to simply dismiss a product / marketer without knowing a product etc or simply because they are looked upon as Gurus is myopic at best and arrogant at worst.

              So do we have a discussion on the merits of blogging in today's context or do we have the usual race to the bottom of guru bashing and people spewing their own hate without any factual base for their comments? Obviously it's the latter.

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              • Profile picture of the author fin
                Originally Posted by sal64 View Post

                Probably not... then again, he's not promising they will.
                True.

                No doubt the technique must work in some way. If people have the money to pay for writers then good luck to them.
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                • Profile picture of the author sal64
                  Originally Posted by fin View Post

                  True.

                  No doubt the technique must work in some way. If people have the money to pay for writers then good luck to them.
                  Just on that topic...

                  what are your expectations of payment fees for writers?

                  how does this differ from just paying hacks to write stuff (which most do)?

                  Does it make sense that having an article published on your blog by an expert as opposed to just you, would have more cred?

                  And even if you pay for the article (assuming no one does it for free), what is the cost per lead associated with the article as opposed to the usual article marketing, solo ads, ppc, the latest SEP deal etc?

                  My main point here is that it is part of an overall marketing strategy, and not the holy grail itself.

                  Finally, we are in business and we invest in marketing and promotion. That should be a given on here. So let me ask you... if you had to pay $100 for an article from an expert in your market... who had a few hundred if not thousand followers on facebook and twitter, high back link juice and potential targeted traffic to your site to read the article (unique content of course)... is it worth the investment? Assuming once again that you have a funnel and capture form etc on your site.

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                  • Profile picture of the author fin
                    Originally Posted by sal64 View Post

                    Just on that topic...

                    what are your expectations of payment fees for writers?

                    how does this differ from just paying hacks to write stuff (which most do)?

                    Does it make sense that having an article published on your blog by an expert as opposed to just you, would have more cred?

                    And even if you pay for the article (assuming no one does it for free), what is the cost per lead associated with the article as opposed to the usual article marketing, solo ads, ppc, the latest SEP deal etc?

                    My main point here is that it is part of an overall marketing strategy, and not the holy grail itself.

                    Finally, we are in business and we invest in marketing and promotion. That should be a given on here. So let me ask you... if you had to pay $100 for an article from an expert in your market... who had a few hundred if not thousand followers on facebook and twitter, high back link juice and potential targeted traffic to your site to read the article (unique content of course)... is it worth the investment? Assuming once again that you have a funnel and capture form etc on your site.

                    Sal
                    I think it's something that would would require testing.

                    I can't personally see any expert with a big enough following writing articles for a basic site and only charging $100.

                    I also can't see any results from a few thousand Twitter followers.

                    But I'm sure someone would start small and work their way up.

                    It might be different on a more established site.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rich Lowe
        Originally Posted by fin View Post

        It's definitely a weird strategy to be promoting to dream chasers.

        Will they have enough money to pay bloggers with big audiences to write for them? Will they feckle.

        It would cost hundreds and hundreds to persuade someone with a name to write for you + pimp you around to everyone they know.

        It would take a lot of articles to build up an audience for yourself and that's only if your blog is good enough that they want to come back.

        Or you could guest post on blogs that have a big audience, which might take longer but you wouldn't be throwing $10,000 around to try and get an audience.
        Hello Fin,

        Absolutely SPOT ON!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Established marketers are smart enough to know they only publish to their own properties, OR to properties that are going to HELP THEM.

    Its highly unlikely that any big names are going to sit down and write you a 800 word article because you asked nicely.
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    • Profile picture of the author fin
      Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

      OR to properties that are going to HELP THEM.
      This is the important part. Some big bloggers do it, but only on bigger blogs.

      I'm not suggesting a big blogger couldn't be persuaded to write an article for a pr0 site with zero traffic, but I wonder how much they'd need to get paid if they're already making a full-time income.
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    • Profile picture of the author sal64
      Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

      Established marketers are smart enough to know they only publish to their own properties, OR to properties that are going to HELP THEM.

      Its highly unlikely that any big names are going to sit down and write you a 800 word article because you asked nicely.
      Once again, a half arsed opinion based on a lack of knowledge of the product.

      Keep it up mate.
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      • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
        Originally Posted by sal64 View Post

        Once again, a half arsed opinion
        Tell that to Seth Godin when you ask him to create content for you, or perhaps James Schramko.
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        • Profile picture of the author sal64
          Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

          Tell that to Seth Godin when you ask him to create content for you, or perhaps James Schramko.
          And again! Keep going mate. Why the hell would I approach Godin or Schramko... or even Chow for that matter when my market may well be outside blogging or IM? DUH!!!

          See now you are making assertions and half arsed assumptions again. Can you honestly prove to me 100% that there are not experts out there who are not willing to provide content for your site?

          Once again you are talking out of your arse... assuming to know all when you are in fact uniformed.

          Question for you...

          Do you have the product in question? If not, what makes you qualified to comment on it or the strategies? Better yet, are you fully aware of what the promise is?

          See this is what happens when people shoot off their mouth before engaging their brains.

          As for Deis positioning himself using the dead angle, it's no different than how you position yourself as the anti-guru guru in order to sell more products. No better - no worse.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rich Lowe
      Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

      Established marketers are smart enough to know they only publish to their own properties, OR to properties that are going to HELP THEM.

      Its highly unlikely that any big names are going to sit down and write you a 800 word article because you asked nicely.
      Well said, John.

      A friend of mine who works for Google says some of the employees are laughing their heads off at Ryan's video and say he couldn't be further from the truth.

      Interesting!

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  • Profile picture of the author Shaamj
    I think blogging is one of the strongest methods of online marketing. If you starting out I would suggest that you dont focus to much on blogging at fist but rather writing 2-3 posts a week and then focus on guest posting because theres no use in writing a bunch of articles every week when theres no one to read it
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  • Profile picture of the author freotech
    Re: Is Blogging dead?
    No. But Autoblogging and Blogging to the blank are Dead.
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  • Profile picture of the author businessmanic
    Originally Posted by frank1475 View Post

    I have just watched a sales video by Ryan Deiss where he claimed that blogging was dead. He was talking about building authority websites by finding and paying writers, who already have a following in their niche, to write for your site. Ryan claims that not only are you buying content but also traffic since these writers will put out lots of social signals to their following about their posts on your site. Doing the same with a number of writers gets lots of social signals pointing back at your site and gives it lots of authority in Google's eyes. It is then up to the sire owner to monetise this traffic. The first problem I see is getting people to write for a site that is new and has no authority. It's a bit of a chicken and egg situation. I would be interested to hear peoples thoughts on this model.
    I would say, your question is from a point of view of newbie people. Blogging is not a specific way to just earn money. It's a way to even express your thoughts. It's never dead. There are millions of Blogs out there with Billions of Traffic. So research my friend!!
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  • Profile picture of the author RoadBandit
    Gotta agree with the majority here...Blogging is still here and bigger and better than ever!

    After reviewing other Internet Marketers with Authority Blogging Sites I just launched a new Internet Marketing blog that I have been preparing for and I wouldn't have followed through if I thought blogging was dead.

    What blogging really requires to be successful is CONSISTENCY! Produce Valuable Content Regularly for your market and your Blog will last. It's definitely not easy but if you stay the course good things will happen.

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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Worner
    Ryan Deiss said blogging is dead? If he said that it must be true! :rolleyes:

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  • Profile picture of the author pvijeh
    why is he giving blogging such a flogging?
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  • Profile picture of the author Reinhart Osmond
    I think it's just the thought of her own.
    Because as long as there is internet blogging will never die until anytime between blogging and the internet something that can not be separated.
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  • Profile picture of the author quain88
    blogging isnt dead, its just the mind and negativity that makes you think that it is
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  • Profile picture of the author mert
    I am not thinking about blogs so much (not anymore). If I do blogs I make it sure that it has a point of view and sense of humor and not just offering crappy and too flashy content. We should think of our readers intentions, what's the right reason would they be reading our blogs.

    That's why we should make blogs that are informative to gain respect and loyalty of our reader. If you can pull the right triggers at the right time, you can nail this in no time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gail B
    Blogging is not dead. There are a lot of people who earn by using their blogs. BUT, whatever you produce in your blog should have genuinely unique content which would attract the right readers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Wightley
    No Way is blogging dead, it does take time and you must blog about real stuff not just crap. Pick the subject you love and start writing people will come and after A while then Monetize it. It works and always will.
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  • Profile picture of the author WeavingThoughts
    Originally Posted by frank1475

    Is blogging dead/
    You kidding me bro!

    Is Facebook dead? According to you it is I think...
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  • Profile picture of the author YellowGreenMedia
    Ryan Deiss is a douche-bag with overhyped products filled with nothing, and that would answer your question

    But if it doesnt let me tell you that blogging is far from being dead, i just started a blog about lead generation and i already get 20/30 visitors per day without any promotion and only three post lol.

    So there you go, blogging is still alive and kicking
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  • Profile picture of the author evilgenius142
    no it will never be dead
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  • Profile picture of the author WeavingThoughts
    Blogging is a lifestyle choice. Lifestyle products never go out of fashion. It isn't aimed at product sellers alone, in fact, they are the minority with blogs.
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  • Profile picture of the author bsummers
    Content is the King and that means that blogging is not dead or isn't even dying. It will only evolve as time goes by. And here, those who declare that blogging is dead is because they don't create contents that are shareable, useful and informational. Another one, as I've said it is evolving. Check your strategies and techniques. Maybe you only blog for SEO purposes and for marketing and advertising. It's a NO NO. Always your audience. If you create high quality and helpful contents, it will go viral through social media.
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  • Profile picture of the author CollegeCEO
    Like others in this thread have said, blogging is far from dead. It just takes time and unfortunately the major goal for people starting out is to "get rich quick" thanks to all of the products (some sold here) that make unrealistic claims.
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  • Profile picture of the author thewealthapostle
    Originally Posted by frank1475 View Post

    I have just watched a sales video by Ryan Deiss where he claimed that blogging was dead. He was talking about building authority websites by finding and paying writers, who already have a following in their niche, to write for your site. Ryan claims that not only are you buying content but also traffic since these writers will put out lots of social signals to their following about their posts on your site. Doing the same with a number of writers gets lots of social signals pointing back at your site and gives it lots of authority in Google's eyes. It is then up to the sire owner to monetise this traffic. The first problem I see is getting people to write for a site that is new and has no authority. It's a bit of a chicken and egg situation. I would be interested to hear peoples thoughts on this model.
    To my mind, blogging remains the most viable option for long term sustainable free traffic on the internet. All you need is to do a search for any keyword...almost invariably, the top 10 sites served up by search engines (i.e google or yahoo) will include about 7-8 blogs. Thus confirming the staying power of NATURAL blogs long term.

    So, whoever is saying blogging is dead is simply trying to use scare tactics to sell ideas for a new kind of 'authority' site building that would probably be swept aside by the next google slap or Camel tsunami or whatever.

    I think google has been trying to send a message that only ORGANIC growth sites are welcome and that any attempt to artificially manipulate google rankings will always be penalised eventually but we all never seem to learn. In any case, SEO 'EXPERTS' will never let us accept that becos then they will be out of business.

    Blogging will still be here after the next google Penguin or Ostrich or Elephant or whatever slap is coming next I think.
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  • Profile picture of the author codingku
    a lot of bloggers who made money whould disagree...
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  • Profile picture of the author mrozlat
    he's basically changed guest blogging and made it more... you can do it without the course and make it work from simply watching his free videos... although i'm sure there are some nuggets that he saved for the actual course
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    • Profile picture of the author sal64
      Originally Posted by mrozlat View Post

      he's basically changed guest blogging and made it more... you can do it without the course and make it work from simply watching his free videos... although i'm sure there are some nuggets that he saved for the actual course
      Also pretty sure he said it was broken.

      Anyway I find it amusing that last year I started a thread on the importance of blogging and got shot down by people who had been doing it and never had any success. Now we see people defending it. Most state that other people make money...

      The reality is that the majority fail - especially if they are in the IM niche. Funny how we haven't heard from them on this thread.

      It's an interesting product. However, the info is somewhat basic much as a $27 ebook would contain. However, it is still an interesting concept that with a little effort and as part of your overall strategy, can make a huge difference. People are focusing on getting writers nd yes it will be a challenge at the start.

      But the other benefits include backlinks and seo. The higher it ranks, the more views etc and traffic. so it does snowball. I liken this strategy to an additional momentum booster.

      Is it worth the 3 x $97? That is subjective. Part of the deal is that his team will build, install and host your site... max it for seo and appearance. It also provides you with a pool of sites to link to.

      So yes, you can probably outsource it all. But what he has done, is thrown in the done-for-service and expanded a $27 product to almost $300.

      Like it or not, it is a brilliant marketing effort and one that many on here would do well to study and try to emulate. A great lesson on how to add value to your product and multiply your profits by almost 1000%... instead of playing the WSO $7 lottery.

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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew D
    why would people listen to a fake propaganda like that. Blogging is still alive and it is the best way to accommodate your visitor and fans. Blogging will give you a targeted audience that might become your list someday. Investing on blog is a definite way to build a trusty audience, Pat Flynn is a good example.
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  • I hope its still alive, always hated blogging but over the last few months have started to enjoy blogging more and more so I hope its around for a while yet.
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  • Profile picture of the author sal64
    Can people actually get over the whole it's dead marketing angle?

    People saying how great they are, can you please share the link to your blog as well as the traffic stats?
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  • Profile picture of the author drbrucehoag
    I saw the same video.

    I think it was just a attention-grabbing headline.

    The problem with blogging, article writing, participating in forums, etc is that they're unwilling to do enough of it for it to work.

    They want to have a sip, instead of drinking the whole barrel.
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    Blogging is alive.its hard work and requires consistency.
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  • Profile picture of the author mulesmurf
    Originally Posted by frank1475 View Post

    I have just watched a sales video by Ryan Deiss where he claimed that blogging was dead. He was talking about building authority websites by finding and paying writers, who already have a following in their niche, to write for your site. Ryan claims that not only are you buying content but also traffic since these writers will put out lots of social signals to their following about their posts on your site. Doing the same with a number of writers gets lots of social signals pointing back at your site and gives it lots of authority in Google's eyes. It is then up to the sire owner to monetise this traffic. The first problem I see is getting people to write for a site that is new and has no authority. It's a bit of a chicken and egg situation. I would be interested to hear peoples thoughts on this model.
    Let me rephrase:
    I am Ryan Deiss Guru Extraordinaire!
    I have made a NEW SHINY TOY!
    Listen to ME D@#$ it!
    You need BETTER CONTENT!
    Buy it from ME!
    Don't try to make Better Content
    Buy it from Me!

    If you don't buy NOW!
    You are just a Loser!

    Thank You
    RD

    I will follow up!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Amod Oke
    A friend of mine who works for Google says some of the employees are laughing their heads off at Ryan's video and say he couldn't be further from the truth.
    What's google got to do with anything he's teaching or doing??? Or is it something like 'if a prestigious google employee laughs at it, it must be stupid??'

    No offense to anyone, but many things that Deiss teaches should of course be taken with a tub of salt, but then again, if you watch him market, you WILL pick up many cool things on the way! Just be on his list and learn how he markets, no need to buy any shiney gadget!
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  • Ryan doesn't literally mean that blogging is dead.

    His point is that it's broken or highly inefficient, and he has a point since blogging, in a nutshell, means writing recurrently an endless amount of content that you give away for free (whereas you could actually charge for it if you distribute it in any other format than blogging).

    I personally agree with Ryan.
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  • Profile picture of the author PolicyMaker
    Not As long As you are Providing Quality and Useful Information on your Blogs...
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    • Profile picture of the author sal64
      Originally Posted by Amod Oke View Post

      What's google got to do with anything he's teaching or doing??? Or is it something like 'if a prestigious google employee laughs at it, it must be stupid??'

      No offense to anyone, but many things that Deiss teaches should of course be taken with a tub of salt, but then again, if you watch him market, you WILL pick up many cool things on the way! Just be on his list and learn how he markets, no need to buy any shiney gadget!
      Just like web designers (many) don't have a clue about designing sites that rank, or marketing in general. Good point.

      Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

      Ryan doesn't literally mean that blogging is dead.

      His point is that it's broken or highly inefficient, and he has a point since blogging, in a nutshell, means writing recurrently an endless amount of content that you give away for free (whereas you could actually charge for it if you distribute it in any other format than blogging).

      I personally agree with Ryan.
      I personally agree with you... but just this once so we are not friends or anything like that.

      Originally Posted by PolicyMaker View Post

      Not As long As you are Providing Quality and Useful Information on your Blogs...
      Bulltish. Only a half-truth argument here. No pint having 1 million quality, informative articles on your blog if no one is reading them or visiting your site.

      And that my friend is the critical element of blogs.

      As afar as the vitriol goes on here, it saddens me that supposed marketers can get so personal about successful marketers doing their job. If anyone isn't doing what Deiss does then you are in the wrong business.

      Seriously, everyone here assumingly sells products - some good other just average - or promote things that they have never tested or woned, but that's ok. But as soon as someone who makes big bucks does, people pour scorn on them.

      Calling someone a douche bag says more about the poster than the Deiss IMO.

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  • Profile picture of the author Boricua
    Originally Posted by frank1475 View Post

    I have just watched a sales video by Ryan Deiss where he claimed that blogging was dead. He was talking about building authority websites by finding and paying writers, who already have a following in their niche, to write for your site. Ryan claims that not only are you buying content but also traffic since these writers will put out lots of social signals to their following about their posts on your site. Doing the same with a number of writers gets lots of social signals pointing back at your site and gives it lots of authority in Google's eyes. It is then up to the sire owner to monetise this traffic. The first problem I see is getting people to write for a site that is new and has no authority. It's a bit of a chicken and egg situation. I would be interested to hear peoples thoughts on this model.
    Re: Is Blogging dead?
    Blogging for the sake of blogging has always been dead. I bet that's what he meant. Now a days blogging has been scrutinized by media saying it's the new heavens for part-time income, no wonder, insanity cruises the moment people don't earn as much as they thought they would or supplement their income their job income. With that general mindset, dead in the water indeed. Ryan knows 99.99% of the people in his list won't turn into a problogger.net resource, so he follows the average way of thought. Blogging is surely dead!

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  • Profile picture of the author bloghands
    Out of every SEO strategy blogging is by far one of the most effective and it's not going anywhere anytime soon. The only way blogging can be dead is if you're doing it completely wrong.
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  • Profile picture of the author rmolina88
    Autoblogging is dead.

    Real blogging is eternal.

    I'm still getting pretty good sales from my guide blog and I barely have to do anything to promote it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ian Jackson
    What he's saying is that you have no chance of being a successful blogger unless you invest in his expertise... which of course will show you how to do it properly
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  • Profile picture of the author jenmidas
    It was a pure marketing strategy. It will create a buzz. His server will be exploded due to the 'lemmings' attack with 'What?!! I can't believe this! He must know something I don't" in their head.

    Buy button clicked. Then RD will rectify his claim in his course.
    I still remember those days he produced a report of the dead of website.
    Perhap it's a "same song but different chorus"
    I could be wrong on this.....


    John Chow is making 6figures with his blog. That's not DUMB. That's financially intelligent.
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    • Profile picture of the author sal64
      Originally Posted by jenmidas View Post

      It was a pure marketing strategy. It will create a buzz. His server will be exploded due to the 'lemmings' attack with 'What?!! I can't believe this! He must know something I don't" in their head.

      Buy button clicked. Then RD will rectify his claim in his course.
      I still remember those days he produced a report of the dead of website.
      Perhap it's a "same song but different chorus"
      I could be wrong on this.....


      John Chow is making 6figures with his blog. That's not DUMB. That's financially intelligent.

      Jon Chow is the exception and not the norm.

      Perhaps it should be said that Blogging is a dead cause for most people?
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      • Profile picture of the author jenmidas
        Originally Posted by sal64 View Post

        Jon Chow is the exception and not the norm.

        Perhaps it should be said that Blogging is a dead cause for most people?
        Yup. Agree with you. RD is a genius marketer.
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  • Profile picture of the author philipdwyer
    Frank,
    I did not buy his product, but it appears that Ryan was stating that blogging is dead with tongue in cheek. Especially since many websites out there use a blogging type style to get their product out there. So I would say, "No, blogging is not dead."
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  • Profile picture of the author roblawrence
    A blog is just a website. People seem to belittle the word "blog" meaning that it's just an online diary of sorts. Websites and blogs both have articles, videos, writers, use the same wordpress software, have a hosting account, aweber sign up, comments, etc. The only difference is that a "blog" might be written in a more personal tone than a "website" would. When you start publishing other people's content, you really aren't a blog anymore because YOUR voice isn't the main factor. Now you're a publisher, and running a "website". But, the mechanics behind both are the same.
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    • Profile picture of the author Arete Infinitum
      Originally Posted by roblawrence View Post

      A blog is just a website. People seem to belittle the word "blog" meaning that it's just an online diary of sorts. Websites and blogs both have articles, videos, writers, use the same wordpress software, have a hosting account, aweber sign up, comments, etc. The only difference is that a "blog" might be written in a more personal tone than a "website" would. When you start publishing other people's content, you really aren't a blog anymore because YOUR voice isn't the main factor. Now you're a publisher, and running a "website". But, the mechanics behind both are the same.
      Aren't there blogs that feature recurring guest posters?
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  • Profile picture of the author A S M
    Just like most of the other businesses out there, if you don't know how to attract people to your blog , then you wont have any income. If blogging is truly what you love and you are passionate about it .... you will do anything it takes to get it up and running and be successful .

    It takes time but can be very rewarding and worth every minute and penny you spend .

    Good luck to you !
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  • Profile picture of the author Bsperling
    Blogging when done the right way can be a great source of targeted traffic and will benefit the branding of your business. its a great way to connect with your subcribers and will only help grow your business $$
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  • Profile picture of the author Monja
    the point is that a blog is just a platform, your base. you could also say that shops in town are dead or websites in general. it's b***s in my eyes because you "use" a blog as a way to communicate with your customers. you can use any other way if you prefer. the point is to connect and be in touch and for that a blog is a great tool but definitely not the onl one
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  • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
    Blogging is not dead. It's still a really effective way to convert traffic into customers.
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  • Profile picture of the author bertsocias
    Anyone who would make "Blogging is dead" as a headline or title to a post or video is simply following a good marketing technique - catching attention. This works very well knowing that a lot of online marketers has a blog or has been blogging. This creates controversy and gets people to disagree and argue and so on....

    So if you got hooked and read the article or seen the video because of the title and reacted to it-- mission accomplished.
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