If you had to do it all over again...

by sb06
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And go back to school to get a degree... what would you get a degree in?


ALSO if you already have one, what is it and has it helped you in you career? IM related or not...(Or is your degree and career completely unrelated)


I'm 25 and have changed my major at least 3 times... been in and out of community college since I graduated HS, but I'm 99.9% sure I've finally decided to get serious and get my BS in Business (possible emphasis on marketing). I'm also planning on being fully active in my IM ventures while in school... but at least this way if I fail in IM (as the stats aren't really in my favor haha) I'll have something to fall back on
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  • Profile picture of the author Gonzosan
    I personally think degrees are useless, but that's just me. I'm in the military and I've tried the school route and hated it. The "instructors" were lazy and/or everything they taught I pretty much knew. I went in for mobile development and hated the fact that I'd have to wait nearly 2 years before I started learning the good stuff, which was the programming aspects. I quit school about 6 months after I started as I felt it was just holding me back. I've learned so much more on my own but then again I've always been very proactive and ambitious.

    I've learned more through my experience in the military than anything. Not to say that things are directly translatable but a lot of the principles I've learned I've applied to my own IM businesses. I became a freelance web designer when I was still in high school all from learning through books and just experimenting. So that's where I've learned to work on websites, which also taught me about Flash, Photoshop and even 3D programs which I use intensively through my sites. I also wrote and self published a digital book which I didn't learn in any school.

    I personally don't think you need school to become successful. If you really want something bad enough you'll learn how to do these things, apply them and repeat. That's just my take though, don't get offended.
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  • Profile picture of the author HarrieB
    Yeah, Degrees can definitely help.

    I did a Bachelors in computers and then went the programming route.

    Now I design Php applications and softwares and earn handsomely via IM.

    I further did a course in Corporate communication and it has helped me a lot in how to deal with people and of course convince them.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheSalesBooster
    Something practical like programming.
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    Software engineering. I'd still write though. I consider writing as essential as breathing.
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  • Profile picture of the author theory expert
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    Originally Posted by sb06 View Post

    And go back to school to get a degree... what would you get a degree in?


    ALSO if you already have one, what is it and has it helped you in you career? IM related or not...(Or is your degree and career completely unrelated)


    I'm 25 and have changed my major at least 3 times... been in and out of community college since I graduated HS, but I'm 99.9% sure I've finally decided to get serious and get my BS in Business (possible emphasis on marketing). I'm also planning on being fully active in my IM ventures while in school... but at least this way if I fail in IM (as the stats aren't really in my favor haha) I'll have something to fall back on
    I changed my major, though it was a minor change that didn't really effect my credits. I dont think I would have went to college for a degree unless it was for something very specific for a job entry like health administration, paralegal, exercise physiology to be a team college trainer etc.

    Otherwise I would have used creative apprenticing, and, initiative to get me through life. Hindsight is always 20/20
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  • Profile picture of the author koreancowboy
    If I had to go back and do it all over again, I would have really applied myself and graduated from HS (got a GED), then went to college to study Psychology, with a double Minor in Marketing and Dance.

    Also, once I transitioned out of adult and into mainstream online marketing, I would have saved some more money during my break a couple of years ago, so that I could apply it towards SEO/linkbuilding/paid traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author davidfrankk
    If I could go back, I would do engineering again. Those 4 years really changed my life and made me the person I am today.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashley Walker
      programming is a good choice, specifically software engineering that have so much demand in today's business. I would love to go back and enter that program after my HS. But in the IM business, I also would like to know more about marketing which can be learned at business management.
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      • Profile picture of the author wisdomoto
        I have a masters in finance and commerce, worth it (:
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    Listbuilding. :-)

    That is the one thing I should of done from day one.
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    • Profile picture of the author 4DayWeekend
      If you're looking to build a 'career' the best degrees IMO are those that actually have a dedicated career at the end of them. The likes of Medicine, Dentistry, Law, Pharmacy. After going through the process of getting qualified you're highly likely to obtain an above average salary job.

      The likes of computing (which my degree is in by the way), business, marketing etc are all very generic and there is no set career path after you graduate. They might get you onto a graduate scheme where you start on a 'decent' wage but progression will depend a lot on how you talk rather than how you perform.

      If I could go back, personally, I wouldn't get a degree. Because I've always been entrepreneurial and when you run your own business the percentage of people who care if you have a degree is minimal. They're more influenced by how you present yourself and perform.

      Not to say a degree is useless for an entrepreneur because the time at uni does build you as a person and you will learn some skills that will help. Although IMO it doesn't justify the cost of being there (course cost, salary/income lost, time etc).
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Education is about what stays with you long after all the "precise stuff you learned" has been forgotten.

        With occasional vocational exceptions like business, law, accounting and medicine, it isn't really about "earning money", and it shouldn't be.

        My original degree was technically called "History and Philosophy of Science" but its title doesn't describe its content well: I really studied recent/current developments in medical sociology, medical education, environmental medicine and epidemiology, and that's what I'm continuing to research (very, very, very part-time) for my PhD (if I ever finish it).

        If I had my time again, I'd do the same or something very similar - possibly including some anthropology.

        My "formal education" has been majorly and directly useful to me in setting up and running my internet marketing business successfully: I wouldn't be nearly so successful without it, because I wouldn't have developed the judgement and learning and analytical skills necessary to apply to new and different and unrelated situations. And of course that's the true purpose and value of education.

        And because of that, like many people in universities, I think that degree courses would be more useful to more people if they were centered more on academic studies and less on vocational, practical skills which are far more easily acquired.

        Originally Posted by sb06 View Post

        I'm 25 and have changed my major at least 3 times...
        It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what the exact subject-matter is. It's just the process of doing it, and the thinking/learning skills acquired during that process, that matter.

        Originally Posted by sb06 View Post

        at least this way if I fail in IM (as the stats aren't really in my favor haha) I'll have something to fall back on
        That's true, of course, but more importantly the chances are that you'll be more successful in your internet marketing business through having acquired the judgement, analytical and learning skills involved in doing a college degree, whether it's business-related or not. And good luck!
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        • Profile picture of the author Lucian Lada
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          And because of that, like many people in universities, I think that degree courses would be more useful to more people if they were centered more on academic studies and less on vocational, practical skills which are far more easily acquired.
          Well, to most people academic studies are what pure math is for mathematicians.

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          While good in theory, I don't know how many people (students, in particular) are going to embrace it, although I do see your point, and I too think that most people just don't know how to discern the good from the bad.

          As for what I've done if I had to do it all over again, I'd probably go to a uni in the UK or USA (or other western countries, if I knew other languages well enough). Higher education here is a joke, together with the salaries. My children will only set foot in a local university over my (literally) dead body.
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  • Profile picture of the author sarahAttkinson
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    I believe it is important to know what you really want in life. This is what makes it easier to get there. Confusion, hesitation are misleading. I do not know it a degree counts as much. I know people that do just fine without a degree and are happy with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author marcos08
    My degree is in business studies and my Masters is in Business Management, I agree with someone earlier when they say they think they are a waste of time! If I had to do it all over again I would choose Law, which is what I really wanted to do but thought it would be too long! However by the time I had completed degree and then the masters (as I studied part time) it was just as long!. Also another option would be computer science etc. I really think though that the degrees and education should be more focused on actual work / career path training as opposed to text theory. Just my opinion!
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  • Profile picture of the author substance
    I would have done the same i.e. my Civil Engg degree. Anyhow, Though I am employed full time, I still like to dabble on the IM world having tasted some small success from time to time.

    Also planning to go for passive income now.
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    IT is the rave of the moment atleast as an IMer I wish it was what I studied.
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  • Profile picture of the author butters
    Currently taking a degree in Biomedical Science (Pathology).

    I have learnt a load of critical skills which can be used in any professions, correct, thorough research, only trust a reliable reputable source (already knew but its a nice refresher), made some great friends, learnt a lot do with something which interests me, practical skills, the list goes on and on. I do not regret doing this degree one second, it is by far teaching me so much.
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  • Profile picture of the author arivera1219
    I'm also of the school of thought that a degree is not necessarily a pathway to success. It honestly depends on what you're ultimate goal is. If you're looking to be an entrepreneur, don't waste time and money on Bachelor's degrees. You'd be better off taking some separate courses for specific skills you'd like to learn related to your entrepreneurial goals.

    I'm midway through with a Bachelor's of Science in Marketing. The only reason I had even started seeking the degree was because of my corporate prisons. The story was always the same, "We could consider you for the position/raise if you had a degree behind you." I always found this to be an exceptionally irritating line of bullshit since I was already doing the same work my manager's did and getting paid a fraction of their salary. At this point, if I do decide to finish that degree it will be more for the sake of feeling I accomplished it than anything else.

    Sadly college has become a never ending cycle of insanity. You need a degree for a decent job but you need a decent job to be able to pay for the overpriced education in the first place. After racking up a debt that will no doubt be well in excess of $25,000, you may regret having wasted your time.

    I'm not completely opposed to college, I'm just suggesting that you be sure that it fits into your ultimate goals because it is very time consuming and expensive. If your ultimate goal is solely to be an entrepreneur, skip the degree. There are other ways to learn the skills you need to become a huge success.

    Either way, good luck in your ventures!
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