Do you think Internet Marketers are entrepreneurs?

Isaiah Coe

13 years ago

Not all Internet Marketers are entrepreneurs, even though I am both.

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WillR

13 years ago

It really depends on what your definition of entrepreneur is.

But no, I don't think so.

I would say only a very small section of Internet Marketers are true entrepreneurs.

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Mr Lim 13 years ago

Originally Posted by WillR

It really depends on what your definition of entrepreneur is.

I think this is the point.
What's your define for "entrepreneur" OP?
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retsced

13 years ago

Even the ones who aren't making any money?

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Joe Benjamin

13 years ago

Some would call internet marketers hobbyists
UNTIL their making money to live off on.

Are you really a doctor until you're in a hospital?

Are you really a judge until you're in a court?

Are you really an officer until you're on a beat?

Even before I was doing well, I only saw myself
as an entrepreneur. I saw myself that way, and
others do as well.

Most people don't relate to internet marketing.

They DO relate to entrepreneur. So, regardless if
the label is appropriate or not, it's relatable and
understandable.

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Alexa Smith Banned 13 years ago

I'd say that a proportion of successful ones are. Just like a proportion of successful non-online marketers are.
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ymest

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Joe Benjamin

Some would call internet marketers hobbyists
UNTIL their making money to live off on.

Are you really a doctor until you're in a hospital?

Are you really a judge until you're in a court?

Are you really an officer until you're on a beat?

Even before I was doing well, I only saw myself
as an entrepreneur. I saw myself that way, and
others do as well.

Most people don't relate to internet marketing.

They DO relate to entrepreneur. So, regardless if
the label is appropriate or not, it's relatable and
understandable.

Spot on! Totally agree with you there!

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ymest 13 years ago

Just like George W Bush once said " It's a shame the French don't have a word for ENTREPRENEUR............."""!!
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WeavingThoughts

13 years ago

If you don't think and act like an entrepreneur as an IMer, then you will either end fail soon or never succeed big time.

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betterwtveter

13 years ago

Yes I believe so only if they actually build a business from scratch instead of taking someone elses idea.

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funkynassau

13 years ago

I agree with the post above this one. We had our own idea and made it work in real life and online. It's not easy, there's been a lot of ups and downs but as time goes on it gets better. I see our glass as half full!

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InsightIM

13 years ago

Ugh, I hate that word... entrepreneurs... In my mind an entrepreneur is a guy who loses money and doesn't care. Some of us are business owners, but all successful internet marketers are just marketers who specialize in online marketing.

Marketing used to be a respectable title back before all the "9 out of 10 dentists recommend" commercials in the 80's

I do real marketing, I may suck at it sometimes and lose money on some projects, but in my mind that's different than being an entrepreneur and just failing at businesses.

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Charanjit

13 years ago

the word entrepreneur is over used in business. Some one opens a corner shop they suddenly become and entrepreneur, someone opens a blog and gets one subscriber they are an entrepreneur.

Come on dreamers get real, get financial freedom and then you might be classified in that bracket, secondly ''I dont claim to be one it is a term others impose on me" sir alan sugar.

so to all the guys that think every tom, dick and harry that has a web site with adwords on it is an entrepreneur get real, stop dreaming and do things that work.

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Daniel Evans 13 years ago

Ah, the great, self assigned "entrepreneur" label. Nothing is cooler, bar my title:

Uber Ninja Ultra Adventurer and Mega Risk Taker Deluxe (with fries and a 7-up).

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moinuddin

13 years ago

Online marketers are definitely entreprenurs but nobody understand what they are doing

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InsightIM

13 years ago

I like genius billionaire playboy philanthropist. My wife doesn't like the playboy part though.

And since I'm not a billionaire... really I'm just left genius philanthropist. Thank you Tony Stark

He has better hair than I do too

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Scoop

13 years ago

Some people go into IM because they think it will be easy money and are sadly disappointed when it doesn't come as expected. The entrepreneurs are the ones who are not put off by the difficulties and will always find a way of making it work.

As for the proportion of internet marketers who are real entrepreneurs, I guess it is on the low side.

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RogueOne 13 years ago

Of course they are.

What a stupid question.
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Charanjit

13 years ago

My definition of an entrepreneur - a person who has created wealth, to the minimum value of 5 million.

so to all the self titled entrepreneur's get results first, titles second. I would rather be rich and have no title, than be a poor entrepreneur.

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Karen Blundell

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Charanjit

My definition of an entrepreneur - a person who has created wealth, to the minimum value of 5 million.

so to all the self titled entrepreneur's get results first, titles second. I would rather be rich and have no title, than be a poor entrepreneur.

nowhere in the dictionary meaning does it say that in order to be considered an entrepreneur a person has to create wealth to any minimum standard.

an entrepreneur is:

a person who organizes and manages any enterprise, especially a business, usually with considerable initiative and risk.

source: Entrepreneur | Define Entrepreneur at Dictionary.com

based on the above actual meaning - yes, Internet marketers are entrepreneurs.

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WeavingThoughts

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Charanjit

My definition of an entrepreneur - a person who has created wealth, to the minimum value of 5 million.

so to all the self titled entrepreneur's get results first, titles second. I would rather be rich and have no title, than be a poor entrepreneur.

You are wrong. PERIOD!

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koreancowboy

13 years ago

I think that our society is too fixated on titles...most of us want to be the CEO, President, etc.

Me? I'm happy with my current titles...Automotive Journalist and Dating Writer.

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Danit98765

13 years ago

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I think they are. As long as they built their business from scratch and didn't steal someone else's idea. entrepreneuring is organizing and operating a business taking on financial risk to do so. Most internet marketers meet the definition of "entrepreneurs". You don't have to start your own start-up company in order to be called: "entrepreneur".

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onegoodman

13 years ago

I would add another option "maybe"

Internet Marketers are not the same.

You should consider if the type of work you are doing is considered a startup

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rjames

13 years ago

I think they are, even if they are selling someone elses product.

I guess my answer is pretty simple...If someone sets out on their own with no safety net to catch them in hopes of making their own way, then they are an entrepreneur...even if they fail...

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Ruck

13 years ago

I just consider Internet Marketing a branch of my Entrepreneurship :-)

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SuperDJ

13 years ago

Does it really matter? :/ it's a title isn't it?

I just see it as someone who creates solutions to complex problems through the business they started up. Who cares how much they earn or how popular they are besides themselves?

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UnclePeter 13 years ago

An entrepreneur is simply someone who owns an enterprise, so, effectively yes all internet marketers are entrepreneurs.
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WarrenPeterson

13 years ago

Either someone is an entrepreneur, or they are not. Choosing to utilize internet marketing in their business doesn't change that... There are plenty of people who use internet marketing in their careers, and they are not entrepreneurs - and have no desire to be one.

The definition of entrepreneur is pretty well established, I'm somewhat surprised at the discussion over the word itself.

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James Clark 13 years ago

What difference does it make? Its what you believe, period
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Charanjit

13 years ago

If you read my post, it clearly stats the words - my definition (A definition is a statement that explains the meaning of a term (a word, phrase, or other set of symbols), i.e what it means to me, sorry I was taught to have an opinion (n general, an opinion is a belief about matters commonly considered to be subjective, i.e., it is based on that which is less than absolutely certain, and is the result of emotion or interpretation of facts.) and not follow the words of the English dictionary blindly.

And the question was asked - In your opinion

I express my opinion and someones recites the dictionary. Talk about forming an opinion of your own.

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marketingdynasty 13 years ago

When you have an established online business - I believe Internet Marketers do become entrepreneurs.
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Charanjit

13 years ago

I don't mind mind being wrong, gives me great pleasure to be put right. Seems I upset a few self titled Entrepreneurs.

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BackLinkiT 13 years ago

Bunging up a squeeze page promising untold riches, driving traffic to it and then spamming the heck out of your list does not make you an entrepreneur
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- UnclePeter 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by BackLinkiT
  
  Bunging up a squeeze page promising untold riches, driving traffic to it and then spamming the heck out of your list does not make you an entrepreneur
  
  Sorry but it does, it's an enterprise that you are running.
  
  It just may not fit with people's perception of the word's meaning.
  
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  BackLinkiT 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by UnclePeter
  
  Sorry but it does, it's an enterprise that you are running.
  
  It just may not fit with people's perception of the word's meaning.
  
  Where's the 'considerable initiative' and the risk?
  
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  UnclePeter 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by BackLinkiT
  
  Where's the 'considerable initiative' and the risk?
  
  I agree there isn't any but the definition states:
  
  a person who organizes and manages any enterprise, especially a business, usually with considerable initiative and risk.
  
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  BackLinkiT 13 years ago
  
  Entrepreneur - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  
  No.
  
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  UnclePeter 13 years ago
  
  OK - Fair point well made
  
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Lateef Olajide

13 years ago

I will say no. Truth is majority of internet marketers don't treat this as business. So in a way not all internet marketers are entreprenuers.

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Mark Singletary

13 years ago

Just curious for those that say that Internet Marketers are not entrepreneurs ("The term entrepreneur is a loanword from French, and is commonly used to describe an individual who organizes and operates a business or businesses, taking on financial risk to do so." Wikipedia.org), what do you call yourselves or consider yourselves even if you don't call yourself anything?

Or what do you call yourself if people ask what you are doing online with those web pages?

Business Owner?
Consider it all a hobby only or playtime?
Employee?
Just some guy who is trying to sell some stuff on the internet?
Guru?
Sucker Seeker?

Mark

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BackLinkiT

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Mark Singletary

Just curious for those that say that Internet Marketers are not entrepreneurs ("The term entrepreneur is a loanword from French, and is commonly used to describe an individual who organizes and operates a business or businesses, taking on financial risk to do so." Wikipedia.org), what do you call yourselves or consider yourselves even if you don't call yourself anything?

Or what do you call yourself if people ask what you are doing online with those web pages?

Business Owner?
Consider it all a hobby only or playtime?
Employee?
Just some guy who is trying to sell some stuff on the internet?
Guru?
Sucker Seeker?

Mark

Internet marketer, of course! Or perhaps webmaster. But I would never suggest there is anything entrepreneurial about it!

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Mark Singletary

13 years ago

Originally Posted by BackLinkiT

Internet marketer, of course! Or perhaps webmaster. But I would never suggest there is anything entrepreneurial about it!

The problem is that Internet marketer has tended to become associated with those who sell how to make money online courses and many of us don't.

Was Amazon.com, Google.com, Ebay.com, Paypal.com, or Yahoo.com started by entrepreneurs or Internet marketers?

You could also use "Online marketer" but for many of us the online part is only part of what we do.

You could say "Marketer" but for many of us marketing is only a small part of what we do. There is also the management, content creation, human resources, legal & contractual compliance, customer service, etc. sides of what we do.

Mark

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BackLinkiT

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Mark Singletary

You could say "Marketer" but for many of us marketing is only a small part of what we do. There is also the management, content creation, human resources, legal & contractual compliance, customer service, etc. sides of what we do.
Mark

That makes you a businessman, Mark, or manager perhaps.

Innovation and financial risk are the key elements of being an entrepreneur.

Therefore, building affiliate sites = Internet marketing.

Building a list = Internet marketing.

Mortgaging your house and investing the money in a new and innovative site or app = entrepreneur.