Twitter "Dropping the Hammer"?

by LB
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Ok, I'm new to Twitter so feel free to clue me in.

I've read a lot about building big amounts of Twitter followers etc. but according to tweets I'm seeing over the last couple of days and a few blog posts...it appears this is coming to an end?

I've seen two people who were banned for following 100 people per day, one says he was reinstated with a warning.

I've read tweets from about 4 different people that had 10,000-40,000 followers saying that Twitter has locked them down and they can't follow anyone anymore. Of the profiles I looked over, these were not spammers and at least one of them had about 5k updates that were real conversational style tweets. Two of the accounts were over a year old.

So...did Twitter drop the hammer? It seems you can't build your own following as easily as before.

If true, it seems that Twitter wants to just be a platform for celebrities and businesses to create an audience and not a real social networking platform.

So Twitter experts, has something changed or am I just finding an odd collection of people with bad luck?
#dropping the hammer #twitter
  • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
    Originally Posted by LB View Post

    I've read tweets from about 4 different people that had 10,000-40,000 followers saying that Twitter has locked them down and they can't follow anyone anymore. Of the profiles I looked over, these were not spammers and at least one of them had about 5k updates that were real conversational style tweets. Two of the accounts were over a year old.

    Did they get a notice from Twitter that they were "locked down" or were they just unable to follow more people? If the latter, are you sure they didn't hit a limit? You can follow 10% more people than follow you. Once you hit that 10%, you won't be able to follow more until you gain followers or drop unfollowers.
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    • Profile picture of the author YiKeS
      Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

      Did they get a notice from Twitter that they were "locked down" or were they just unable to follow more people? If the latter, are you sure they didn't hit a limit? You can follow 10% more people than follow you. Once you hit that 10%, you won't be able to follow more until you gain followers or drop unfollowers.

      10%?? ... so I joined yesterday and have only 4 following me (I deleted
      a few "porn promoters ... Yoko Ono followed me tho .. ) ... so by the
      formulae given I should only be able to follow 4.4 people? (say 5)

      Could the fact that I am following around 30 be the
      reason my public page doesn`t show at the moment??


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        Originally Posted by YiKeS View Post

        10%?? ... so I joined yesterday and have only 4 following me (I deleted
        a few "porn promoters ... Yoko Ono followed me tho .. ) ... so by the
        formulae given I should only be able to follow 4.4 people? (say 5)
        Sorry. I didn't explain it fully. The OP was talking about people with 10k+ followers, so I didn't think to give the full explanation.

        You can follow 10% more than follow you or 2000, whichever is greater. So, if you have 4 followers, you can follow 2000, because that's the greater of 4.4 and 2000. If you have 2000 followers, you can follow 2200. And so on.
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          Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

          Sorry. I didn't explain it fully. The OP was talking about people with 10k+ followers, so I didn't think to give the full explanation.

          You can follow 10% more than follow you or 2000, whichever is greater. So, if you have 4 followers, you can follow 2000, because that's the greater of 4.4 and 2000. If you have 2000 followers, you can follow 2200. And so on.

          Ahhh ... so ... chinese too me! I don`t plan on dominating it ... I
          don`t want thousands of "followers" ... I`ve already banned more than
          is following me.

          I`m with Art (g`day mate) ... a severe case of Marketosis
          ... which is why I won`t put my twitURL up here ...


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      • Profile picture of the author mojojuju
        Yeah, something is going on. I kicked off my account with an autofollow script. Worked great until a bug in the script caused it to stop unfollowing people as it was supposed to in order to avoid a high following/follower ratio.

        Anyhow, in a nutshell, twitter blocked me from following or unfollowing people. After some time, they let me do both of those operations, but only using the web interface. So I don't know if they've suspended me based on my IP or based on some other means like the script's usage patterns.

        No worries though. I may start up a new twitter account & modify the autofollow script to be a bit less aggressive (It was mad. 5,000 new followers a month). Now that I think about it, I may just give it another shot soon. Maybe that will be my next rainy day project.
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        • Profile picture of the author wbnetwork
          I use Twitter friend added and haven't had a problem yet. It just takes too much time to add them yourself. I've gotten decent traffic from it. i wouldn't say its a waste of time, but dont spend more then 30-40 minutes a day on it.
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        • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
          Originally Posted by mojojuju View Post

          Yeah, something is going on. I kicked off my account with an autofollow script. Worked great until a bug in the script caused it to stop unfollowing people as it was supposed to in order to avoid a high following/follower ratio.

          Anyhow, in a nutshell, twitter blocked me from following or unfollowing people. After some time, they let me do both of those operations, but only using the web interface. So I don't know if they've suspended me based on my IP or based on some other means like the script's usage patterns.

          No worries though. I may start up a new twitter account & modify the autofollow script to be a bit less aggressive (It was mad. 5,000 new followers a month). Now that I think about it, I may just give it another shot soon. Maybe that will be my next rainy day project.
          You probably ran into API limits and that might have triggered a look at your account.
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          • Profile picture of the author mojojuju
            Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

            You probably ran into API limits and that might have triggered a look at your account.
            That I certainly did. I knew from the get go that twitter's published API rate limit was 100 requests/hour. But I learned that the rate can be exceeded without anything (immediately) happening. At one point for about a week straight, I was making 5 follow & 5 unfollow requests every 2 minutes. That's a total of 300 requests per hour.

            I figured that since I didn't notice any automatic suspension based on that, then maybe the rate limit published in twitter's API docs was outdated, or that it was just a guideline that wasn't enforced. Anyway, it's a soft limit which seems to be enforced.

            I do think twitter is doing the right thing by not sending out explicit suspension notices. Without clear suspension criteria, people may be less likely to push the limits.
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            • Profile picture of the author steveweber
              I just wanted to add my 2 cents on how useful twitter can be as a marketing tool. Some in this thread have discounted it. I for one now find that twitter is my number 1 list building tool...plus, the leads are converting.

              Do I put all my eggs there? No.

              Will it last forever? Who knows.

              But for now twitter is a great tool for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christophe Young
    I really don't get Twitter. Seems like a huge new fad and a big popularity contest. Everyone is competing like mad to get the most followers. Why? I have no idea?

    I guess if you want to see Shaq tweet about his new diet or follow some other celebrity then it's useful.

    Personally, I have more important things to do.
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    • Profile picture of the author unintuitive
      Originally Posted by Christophe Young View Post

      I really don't get Twitter. Seems like a huge new fad and a big popularity contest. Everyone is competing like mad to get the most followers. Why? I have no idea?
      Twitter is a combination of a chat room and email. Anyone can see what you're writing and respond to you, similar to a chat room. But, like email, it's not a real-time conversation.

      The search function of Twitter is fairly powerful, although Twitter hasn't emphasized it very much.

      Google Search is a search engine for information; think of Twitter Search as a kind of search engine for conversations.

      As for a business model, I'm expecting them to sell ad placements in the Twitter SERPS.
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    • Profile picture of the author CoDRoX
      Originally Posted by Christophe Young View Post

      I really don't get Twitter. Seems like a huge new fad and a big popularity contest. Everyone is competing like mad to get the most followers. Why? I have no idea?

      I guess if you want to see Shaq tweet about his new diet or follow some other celebrity then it's useful.

      Personally, I have more important things to do.
      I agree. Seems like more of a celeb fad (then the sheep follow).
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      Originally Posted by Christophe Young View Post

      I really don't get Twitter. Seems like a huge new fad and a big popularity contest. Everyone is competing like mad to get the most followers. Why? I have no idea?

      I guess if you want to see Shaq tweet about his new diet or follow some other celebrity then it's useful.

      Personally, I have more important things to do.
      Twitter can be a very effective way to drive traffic. I have just under 5000 followers. I created a page on my blog that lists my top ten twitter tools. I can make a Tweet that simply says "Top Ten Twitter Tools" with a link to the page. I can get an extra 100 or so visitors to my blog that day. Once they are on the blog, most usually take a look around. I'd say that this can be pretty powerful when used properly.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
    I'm waiting for Twitter to die sooner or later.

    From what I understand, they haven't been able to monetize the service. They're living off borrowed funds.

    Sooner or later, I see them introducing paid plans for people with 1000+ followers. Or enormous amounts of advertising.
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      Originally Posted by BlueSquares View Post

      I'm waiting for Twitter to die sooner or later.

      From what I understand, they haven't been able to monetize the service. They're living off borrowed funds.

      Sooner or later, I see them introducing paid plans for people with 1000+ followers. Or enormous amounts of advertising.
      As the case may be, we're living charmed lives now with sites like YouTube, Twitter and Facebook, all of which are UNPROFITABLE sites.

      We're winning because they're unprofitable.

      We can expect more ads, locked out features only available to paying members and less choices when it comes to these sites in the future once they look to seriously monetize them.

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  • Profile picture of the author artwebster
    Twitter seems to be suffering from terminal marketeritis.

    It seems that a good social idea has been hi-jacked and converted to a marketing platform with all sorts of twittering going on about the latest, greatest worm fest. Aren't the same sort of comments being made about several of the bigger social sites?
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  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    Ask Ashton if his twitter account has been locked down. He has over 1 million followers!

    I think its just a bunch of crap like back in the day when you'd receive an spam mail saying that if you did not do something or other that msn messenger or yahoo chat will no longer be free, or the recent Myspace crap that said your account will be deleted if you do not log in immediately and show activity.
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  • Profile picture of the author Final Verdict
    I have heard of people being banned, but my twitter life time lasted about a week, I never really saw the overall appeal of it, besides being more limited than facebook and myspace.
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  • Profile picture of the author TimothyW
    It's what I call CB-radio syndrome. Remember them? The minute a new way of communicating becomes a fad, everyone moves over to that side of the ferry. Then the ferry tips over.

    It's like bars/pubs/taverns -- the public latches on to one, then it becomes all the rage, then it goes out of business.

    I say, if it doesn't result in *actual* transactions, it's a fad to be avoided. Getting attention is but one aspect of successful marketing. (Merely) getting attention does not (necessarily) guarantee success (read: transactions)!

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    Honestly I think it will just turn into another spam site until twitter cleans it up. At that point it probably will become so cumbersome to promote anything on it that people will stop using it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
      Originally Posted by -Jericho- View Post

      Honestly I think it will just turn into another spam site until twitter cleans it up.
      Twitter does a good job of kicking out the spammers. I kept track one day, and most of the new spammer accounts were given the boot within hours.

      At that point it probably will become so cumbersome to promote anything on it that people will stop using it.
      Twitter wasn't designed to be a marketing tool, so if you go in with the approach that it is, you probably won't have a lot of success with it.
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    I have a friend who constantly wants to chat on Yahoo Messenger, and I've had to tell them to leave me alone except for certain times - mainly when I initiate it. Ha! It seems like once you start chatting on IM, there's no way to stop the conversation.

    Well, Twitter seems a lot like that to me too. If you want to actually follow a conversation, you have to spend a lot of time on the site. How the heck can you get anything else done?

    I just haven't been able to get all "turned on" about it either.

    I check in every so often, and post something, but you can't let it take control.
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      Originally Posted by doublee View Post

      I have a friend who constantly wants to chat on Yahoo Messenger, and I've had to tell them to leave me alone except for certain times - mainly when I initiate it. Ha! It seems like once you start chatting on IM, there's no way to stop the conversation.

      Well, Twitter seems a lot like that to me too. If you want to actually follow a conversation, you have to spend a lot of time on the site. How the heck can you get anything else done?

      I just haven't been able to get all "turned on" about it either.

      I check in every so often, and post something, but you can't let it take control.
      Like anything you have to schedule your "tweet" time. I set aside time for tasks like email and twitter is on the list as well. If you don't you lose productivity. I tweet on my lunch hour at work and for about 30 minutes in the evening.
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonParker
    Originally Posted by LB View Post

    Ok, I'm new to Twitter so feel free to clue me in.

    I've read a lot about building big amounts of Twitter followers etc. but according to tweets I'm seeing over the last couple of days and a few blog posts...it appears this is coming to an end?

    I've seen two people who were banned for following 100 people per day, one says he was reinstated with a warning.

    I've read tweets from about 4 different people that had 10,000-40,000 followers saying that Twitter has locked them down and they can't follow anyone anymore. Of the profiles I looked over, these were not spammers and at least one of them had about 5k updates that were real conversational style tweets. Two of the accounts were over a year old.

    So...did Twitter drop the hammer? It seems you can't build your own following as easily as before.

    If true, it seems that Twitter wants to just be a platform for celebrities and businesses to create an audience and not a real social networking platform.

    So Twitter experts, has something changed or am I just finding an odd collection of people with bad luck?
    I'm thinking it's because there are tools out there that automate your "follower-building." Like twollow.com.

    Anyone can use a tool like this, build a list on autopilot, and start selling to them.
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  • Profile picture of the author zerofill
    Twitter has plans to introduce advertising...they said it at one time... I just don't think the advertisers will get the ROI they would expect from the traffic.

    The one thing with twitter is...successful marketing via twitter is done from marketers that use twitter just like they do their normal opt-in lists. You have to think of Twitter more as an opt-in then a place to just spam away for sales.

    Me I don't really like twitter either....heh But I know it can be useful for the people that make their money from lists only and their whole business model is based on lists. Those people dominate on twitter.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
    Good thing that twitter didn't drop the hammer before everyone that wants to spam the bejeezus out of twitter built up 20 profiles with 5,000+ followers each. Morons.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Twitter has also been down quite a bit lately due to exceeding its capacity. Seems like dropping the hammer on some users might help that problem.

      I didn't see it mentioned here but Facebook is not in profit either - and I'd think without profit the life expectancy of these site would be questionable.

      If Twitter went to paid service at a ridiculously low fee (say $10 a year) it would be profitable quickly, wouldn't it?

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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayhew
    I just read where they are limiting follows to a max of 1,000 a day.
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    • Profile picture of the author steveweber
      Originally Posted by Michael Mayhew View Post

      I just read where they are limiting follows to a max of 1,000 a day.
      Yes, they put that into place last Sunday. I predict more and more controls will be put into place. I've been quite involved in twitter since last Novemeber. It's amazing how much the landscape has changed in just that amount of time with respect to the amount of spammers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Devon Brown
    I don't know what's up with Twitter.. but I lost my account for a few days. The password mysteriously changed and Twitter couldn't send the password reset email to me (but it could directly email me?)
    It's straightened out now.. thanks to A LOT of emailing to them.
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  • Profile picture of the author monopuff
    So what would define a spammer on twitter?

    Certainly someone who sets up an account and posts the same message / link repeatedly .. But then there is a gray area with semi auto post accounts that do post relevant content to whatever niche they choose, but also the occasional affiliate link will show up .. Is this spam ??

    Is twitter only supposed to be used to let people know what you had for dinner (grilled chicken breast) ?

    There is a reason it is so hard to explain to someone exactly what twitter is .. Everyone uses it differently.. You build your own experience on twitter

    So if people choose to use it as there news source, they can follow some account that posts google alerts on a certain topic... everyone's happy
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    • Profile picture of the author Eric Lorence
      Originally Posted by monopuff View Post

      So what would define a spammer on twitter?
      That's exactly what they mean, last week I was followed by 30 or so accounts with names like "thsygdtefscs" and the same one "check this forex bla bla bla" message.

      Then the "tweet bombers", the ones whos face will dominate the first three pages of your account, with some promotion, every couple days.
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    Any tool used badly -- no matter how great the tool is -- is ineffective.

    If you respect the people you interact with and the community you foster there, it can be an incredible source of targeted attention for your content and offers, or a great tool for things like customer service tasks and market research. This has been proven by many, many businesses and individuals on the site.

    If you're using it in a "spam" way or pitching people before you've created value, then you won't be able to foster any community or positive response.

    It's one more tool in the toolbox, and "fad" or not, if you use it wisely, it will have a positive impact on your business.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    The thing about Twitter is, like Myspace, it's hugely popular for whatever silly reason, so the marketers think it's a golden opportunity to exploit the hell out of it ... There's already automation to follow people by keyword, etc. and automation to remove those who aren't following back and automation to schedule tweets and on and on. Twitter will eventually come down hard on this, like Myspace did.

    I have heard many claims about Twitter marketing but have yet to see some bonafide screenshots of how they turned Twitter into profit. Twitter users historically hate Twitter spam. You might get a few here and there to convert, but show me the proof ... in dollars and cents and verified that it came from Twitter.
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    • Now, as some people were saying, that they think it is dying.

      As a marketing company, we personally believe that what makes these networks die is the over marketers and the ones that only join these networks for marketing purposes.

      These networks were not created for marketing purpose only, they were intended for communication, socializing, and networking purpose, NOT marketing purpose.

      Now, I won't say that we have not used some of these networks to market, as almost everyone here has, but it is those that OVER use it, that get on twitter and make nothing but marketing updates. Things that noone else will care to hear about.

      If people started to use these networks as they were designed to be used, these networks would last and would be more effective.
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  • Profile picture of the author anonymous123567
    Nope, it's not dropped the hammer yet!

    I'm managing around 10 different twitter accounts right now, if you use the service how it's meant to be used you'll be fine. I'd recommend people limit the following to 400-500 a day, but it's really up to you guys.

    ps. Just to add SIS is 100%, you've got to think.... do your tweets pass the "who cares" test? (for those that want to find out more about this, I recommend Twitter Power, by Joel Comm)
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  • Profile picture of the author TheCren
    Twitter automatically disallows following when you reach a limit. But they do not lock your account for following too many people at once. I follow, unfollow, and re-follow regularly to build my followers list and it works as far as I can tell.

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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    I immediately unfollow those who send out lame marketing messages.
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    • Profile picture of the author Eric Lorence
      The question is, with all this automation...

      How long will it take for all these users to just end up following everybody else?

      Most don't even bother to check who they're following, much less even bother reading what they're saying.

      And the point will come... 50k followers or more, so what?

      How many of them will even know who you are? Read your tweets? interact with you at all?

      How many of those are just trying to sell you something? Increase their own celebrity?

      Just thinking aloud...
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  • Profile picture of the author timpears
    Personally I have not caught the Twitter bug, yet. And, from reading this thread I probably will not. It doesn't seem to me that the Twitter folks are not too brite. If someone can't figure out how to monetize the amount of traffic they must have, they obviously don't know much about internet marketing. It is no wonder so many people have a poor opinion of them.

    Or, am I being too harsh.
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  • Profile picture of the author LB
    Thanks for the info everyone. It looks like there were some changes to the API and that's what I was hearing about.

    Primarily it looks like they want you to have more followers than friends after a certain point.

    Here's my opinion on Twitter from the eyes of a newbie. It's probably a fad, but it's nowhere near as useless as some seem to think. I've only made a few updates and still had some cool exchanges with people via direct message. I've also seen some really cool links and tips.

    Some people are spamming it, but out of the few hundred I've followed most seem genuine.

    My honest opinion is that it's going to be a pain to monetize for Twitter, but it will have to soon or it will fail long-term. For marketers, I think it can be used responsibly as a great way to list build- just don't overdo it and be genuine.

    Obviously it's working for the big names that continue to use it.
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by LB View Post

      Obviously it's working for the big names that continue to use it.
      Is it? The big names were already big names when they started Twittering. So any news on how many more sales they have because of Twitter? That's my point. Twitter cannot even monetize itself and I don't see any real claims of big income due to Twitter .. other than the people who are marketing "Twitter Marketing" products.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Lake
    I'm surprised by the number of people within this thread that don't care for Twitter. I can't say I've yet gotten business from it, but I can say that I've found an invaluable amount of information and tools from it.

    I'm fairly recent to Twitter, but my advice is to follow people that are providing great information. There is a reason Guy Kawasaki is so popular on Twitter. He gets it. Most of his tweets have great information, with the occasional entertainment. He's been taken to task recently because of his promotion of his site, but after being introduced to his site (alltop.com), I found some more terrific information.

    I think from the perspective of being an information resource, it's a gold mine. As far as getting your follower's attention so that they will buy one's product or service, I don't know yet. But, I am working it to find out.

    Remember: There was a time that not many thought the internet was good for much, either.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    A few have some good info, but it's kind of transparent when your followers call themselves "ColonCleanse" and "FourexMagic" and ... well, you get the drift. When I see all those weird scammy names following me I know exactly what to expect from them.
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  • Profile picture of the author danemorgan
    What's with all the "spammer" labels.

    Last I checked, Twitter is a 100% Opt-In system.

    YOU chose who you follow. If you don't like what you're reading in your timeline, YOU made poor choices.
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by danemorgan View Post

      What's with all the "spammer" labels.

      Last I checked, Twitter is a 100% Opt-In system.

      YOU chose who you follow. If you don't like what you're reading in your timeline, YOU made poor choices.
      And I quickly correct them.
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      • Profile picture of the author whawk57
        Absolutely correct. twitter is a gold mine really, I choose the cool fellas,while you follow the spammers. lol guess its your choice. I am getting such quality info and links where i cant find elsewhere. Problem is you want to have 100 million fellers? to promote or spam , aint accepted.
        I use twhirl and twitter bar for live action
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    • Profile picture of the author Eric Lorence
      Originally Posted by danemorgan View Post

      What's with all the "spammer" labels.

      Last I checked, Twitter is a 100% Opt-In system.

      YOU chose who you follow. If you don't like what you're reading in your timeline, YOU made poor choices.
      That's a tricky one too, trying to be a good Twitter citizen, and giving a follow to those just starting out so you read the few posts they have what seems to be like harmless banter.

      Then comes the "stream" of Viagra pitches or whatever... :rolleyes:
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      • Profile picture of the author bigdaddy
        Originally Posted by Eric Lorence View Post

        That's a tricky one too, trying to be a good Twitter citizen, and giving a follow to those just starting out so you read the few posts they have what seems to be like harmless banter.

        Then comes the "stream" of Viagra pitches or whatever... :rolleyes:
        That's what the "unfollow" button is for!
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        • Profile picture of the author mojojuju
          I have found it to be an easy way to get back links. Notice that most people use twitter have a blog, a Facebook account, or some other website that allows them to post links. If you write a good article on your blog, and you have a decent amount of interest followers, tweeting your latest blog post is a simple way to promote your links.

          I've noticed that when I tweet a blog post, if it's something that people like, it gets re-tweeted for days, and sometimes submitted to sites like Digg or Reddit. From there, other sites pick up the link, and even more back links will appear.
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        • Profile picture of the author Eric Lorence
          Originally Posted by bigdaddy View Post

          That's what the "unfollow" button is for!
          Yeah OK, thanks for that... :rolleyes:

          Anyway, I like Twitter and see the potential for good, and ":evil" I guess.
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  • Profile picture of the author rlnorthcutt
    I was on the fence/unsure about Twitter, but recently took the plunge and started digging into it... fascinating system.

    Because of the open API, there are tons' of cool tools that are being created. As for its usefulness, thats pretty easy:

    Twitter (like email lists, blogs, etc.) is a version of "One to Many" communication. You make a tweet, and your whole list can theoretically read it. If that tweet contains a link to a site/offer then you have a chance to convert a tweet into a lead, etc.

    I personally think of Twitter as a variation on a mailing list, but with a different market segment and additional list-building options.

    For example, you can easily see who is following a Guru in a niche, and choose to follow/pickup his followers. If you know what to look for, you can build a highly responsive list that will check out whatever links you send.

    Of course, the same GIGO rules apply - its not a magic bullet. But the ability to feed in Facebook statuses, links, blog posts, etc. makes it a very convenient communications channel for your content.

    I am actually putting together a report on what I have learned about Twitter, how to use it for marketing, and how I have build up 1600+ followers in a week (and the way to keep it going). Good stuff!
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    I like to test out new ways to communicate as well, but what I see in store for the future of Twitter marketing is different. Following people is already automated if you choose it to be. Unfollowing is also automated. With these handy tools available, marketers will flock to Twitter and everyone will have a few thousand or followers and numerous accounts. You'll be sitting there looking at your Twitter screen and instead of seeing some lively, amusing, and sometimes funny tweets, you'll be seeing an endless stream of marketing messages, which people will just unfollow eventually and become a whole lot more selective about who they follow ... if they are there to use it as an actual social network rather than a streaming billboard.

    Right now I have a few hundred direct messages from people I've never communicated with saying "I make money tweeting" ... "Make money with Twitter" and on and on. Most of them are about making money with Twitter. I did find one that said ... hey, thanks for following. I hope you enjoy my tweets.
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  • Profile picture of the author danemorgan
    I'm follow a pretty large number of people and I don't recall ever seeing a vigara tweet. And there are none in my DM list.

    Last week I signed on to some thing or another that actually automatically adds a handful of follows a day for me and I still don't see any problems. Prior to that I added anyone who had something interesting to me in their time line.

    And who really cares is Britny or Amy or whoever the current hot little celeb is had 1m followers? Who's following someone else has no effect on MY experience with twitter.

    I honestly think a LOT of the complaining about twitter ammounts to nothing more than sour grapes (and in some cases sour puss) syndrome.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    What would I have to be sour about? I'm not smitten with Twitter so seeing the marketing takeover doesn't bother me either way. It's the people who really enjoy Twitter as a social platform that will be bothered, but of course, they won't see that crap anyway ... they'll just unfollow. With over 100 direct messages that all say practically the same thing ... see how much money I make on Twitter, and see how I make a million bucks in my pjs and blah blah blah, does anyone actually think I'd take the time to read any of that or check out their pitch?

    If they used Twitter marketing in a smarter way ... they would try to build relationships with it and build reputation ... but no .... they just blurt out their lame little pitches to deaf ears over and over again.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brawnydt
    I'm pretty sure the twitter bubble will burst for marketers. People think it's cool right now to have 40000 followers, and it's a big fad. Soon people will start to realize that it's not that cool and it's just a bunch of spam and they will start to seriously whittle down their follow lists.

    Most of these people with 40000 followers use tweetdeck or the like to actually follow only 10 people or so. This will be more and more common as more and more spammers come on and give up since nobody cares about their constant link Spit.

    Twitter is about building relationships and networking, not squawking garishly on a megaphone in the middle of a crowd. Soon people will start to realize this.
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  • Profile picture of the author KristenArnold
    I agree that Twitter is a very useful tool for networking, building relationships and keeping tabs on your industry. I have had great things come from using Twitter for my business and amazing connections that I would not have made otherwise.

    It is people that use it just to force their crappy product links out or the "wanna know how I get 2000 followers a day, check out xyz", especially with those automatic tools, and try to get hundreds of random people (which I might add is a waste in time) that should be banned. It is understandable that they "don't get it".. frankly, I prefer them to lose interest and move on and leave the resource and not ruin it for others that benefit from it.
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  • Profile picture of the author jgand
    Twitter is constantly evolving and trying to adapt to what happening on the net. As of late twitter is getting a lot of media attention. Personally, I don't see how twitter truly increases business unless you are in a certain niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author Craig Fenton
    Hi LB:

    There is a person that may be the reason for what you are eluding to having come to fruition. Somebody emailed me the beginning of the week they had their account pulled without ever a negative post or a plug for anything they do. They used one of the Twitter software paid programs on building followers/following.

    Not only is the creator of the software selling the product in high volumes but encourages every person to sign up for the affiliate program and make a Tweet on how to get followers as well as a welcome message that plugs the product.

    What bothers me about people having their accounts pulled is while some will tell you it is a free service and not as if they got banned after paying 1000 dollars, time and energy is money. If they cultivated a good following and mixed excellent information with the good rule of thumb 1 out of 10 Tweets plugging something, this cost them time, effort, and money.

    I have decided from the start that I wouldn't use any methods other than my own to get follower and to follow. I wouldn't want any account that doesn't spread messages of hate, violence, or unethical activity to be taken away without warning.

    If Tom and Terri Twitter are reading how about at least 1 warning to those that break a rule before you pull the plug.

    Thanks for your time and post!
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