heres my problem with internet marketing

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Hi,

My main problem with internet marketing is its hard to help people. It seems like everyone is so concerned about making money. People are promoting guides on how to cure health problems etc. The problem is a lot of these guides don't work. I don't want to be part of this.

I want to sale good quality products that help people. This is why I like amazon. At least these are quality products that I feel good selling. But many of the ebooks were garbage. But surely I am missing something? Maybe someone can help me?

- I want to build a list in a niche where I can help people ( build list with solo ads but not in health or mmo niche)
- I want to have many products/ guides to sale this list

What niche should I look into? I like click bank sometimes as long as the ebooks are good. I just want to make money and help people at true same time
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  • Profile picture of the author yjtung
    some good niches are:

    weight loss
    IM
    Forex
    Real Estate
    Dating

    there will always be people looking for help in these niches
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  • Profile picture of the author coreytucker
    Thanks I am really considering dating/relationships. That niche would work for sure right? What about cat care/training too? I suppose the dating one is better right?
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    • Profile picture of the author Matt Kendo
      Originally Posted by coreytucker View Post

      Thanks I am really considering dating/relationships. That niche would work for sure right? What about cat care/training too? I suppose the dating one is better right?
      Dating niche is huge, like another comment said, if you can invest in solo ads and build a good list in this you are gold. Just pick between the 2 most popular sub niches of 1. Get your ex back and 2. being able to pick up new relationships/dates
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    • Profile picture of the author Dennisknows
      Originally Posted by coreytucker View Post

      Thanks I am really considering dating/relationships. That niche would work for sure right? What about cat care/training too? I suppose the dating one is better right?
      That's a good one. I'm studying a lot of stuff in that niche. I may link up with someone later down the line..

      But i think weightloss and relationship stuff is the most fulfilling.

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  • Profile picture of the author Oliver Williams
    You can't go wrong with a good list in the dating niche. Pet care is also a huge (under rated) niche with many sub niches.

    Also if you can get into the travel niche there are many opportunities there that most people have not yet capitalised on.
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    • Profile picture of the author datingworld
      [QUOTE=Oliver Williams;7955895]You can't go wrong with a good list in the dating niche. QUOTE]

      A friend of mine wanted to build list in dating and relationship niche.
      He asked my favour and put links to his squeeze page on two of my dating sites. He offered 1 free Guide Book "Essentials of Strong Relationship" for optin. He was able to build a list of 3700 in just 52 days times. His list is still growing and is making money for him.
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  • Profile picture of the author icemonkey9
    Hey corey,

    I was actually trying to think of niches that don't help people and was really struggling to think of any. Most of marketing is centered around improving someone else's life. Like you said though, it just depends on what you are selling them. Some of these guides and eBooks are indeed not worth the digital paper they are virtually written on. That's why it is incumbant on you as an ethical business person to full validate what you are selling first. If you don't, you're guilty like the rest of the people you are pointing out. If you try it, like it, use it and it works (or know someone personally that it did help) then you can market the remedy/product/whatever with a guilt free conscious.

    In terms of "dating/relationships that would work for sure" the answer is of course, it depends. It certainly could work... it just depends on your micro-niche and marketing abilities.
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  • Profile picture of the author iSBP
    Dude, Amazon is so untapped. You can make money selling anything. My wife for example told me about a commercial she saw about the new Dyson DC41 vacuum and how she really wanted one. Be an expert on vacuums. Take the time to do the research.

    I am doing nothing but providing more info on stuff like this. Everyday stuff. That's why Amazon is a billion dollar company. People like us give people like my wife more info about something they were going to buy anyway and Amazon gives us a commission.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheSalesBooster
    The responses in this thread are why there are so many crap products out there to begin with.

    Everyone has their 2 cents about how you can go out and make money by jumping into all these different niches and do this and that and you're good to go!

    Problem is... You aren't an expert in these niches and you have no product. Do you know where this is leading? It's leading to the part where you are that exact person you were talking about in your original post...

    "People are promoting guides on how to cure health problems etc. The problem is a lot of these guides don't work. I don't want to be part of this."

    If you don't want to be one of these "people" you need to do more than just "invest in solo ads and build a good list". You have to become an expert or hire one to create a product that can add value to your niche.

    Otherwise you're no better than those people pumping out crappy products.
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    • Profile picture of the author Stephen Crooks
      I Couldn't agree more with this post.. I would just like to also point out that by starting off with the attitude of trying to make money from a niche you are doomed to become part of that crap you hate.

      Rather, start off with the attitude of "how can I create something of interest to this group of people" and the money will roll but you will also have done something good and valuable as well.

      Originally Posted by TheSalesBooster View Post

      The responses in this thread are why there are so many crap products out there to begin with.

      Everyone has their 2 cents about how you can go out and make money by jumping into all these different niches and do this and that and you're good to go!

      Problem is... You aren't an expert in these niches and you have no product. Do you know where this is leading? It's leading to the part where you are that exact person you were talking about in your original post...

      "People are promoting guides on how to cure health problems etc. The problem is a lot of these guides don't work. I don't want to be part of this."

      If you don't want to be one of these "people" you need to do more than just "invest in solo ads and build a good list". You have to become an expert or hire one to create a product that can add value to your niche.

      Otherwise you're no better than those people pumping out crappy products.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    Originally Posted by coreytucker View Post

    Hi,

    My main problem with internet marketing is its hard to help people. It seems like everyone is so concerned about making money. People are promoting guides on how to cure health problems etc. The problem is a lot of these guides don't work. I don't want to be part of this.
    Aren't you interested in making money too?

    How do you know that a lot of these guides don't work? How many have you bought and faithfully followed out of the thousands for sale?

    I want to sale good quality products that help people. This is why I like amazon. At least these are quality products that I feel good selling. But many of the ebooks were garbage. But surely I am missing something? Maybe someone can help me?
    How many of the Amazon books have you bought so that you can know that these are quality products?

    - I want to build a list in a niche where I can help people ( build list with solo ads but not in health or mmo niche)
    - I want to have many products/ guides to sale this list

    What niche should I look into? I like click bank sometimes as long as the ebooks are good. I just want to make money and help people at true same time
    How do you want to help people? What can you offer them that will make their lives better because they bought your product?

    Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    You should look into a niche that you are interested in. Are you interested in dating? Do you want to spend hours every day thinking about it and writing content on it, communicating with people on Facebook and tweeting about it?

    You're probably going to need to do all those things in order to develop trust in your audience and grow your business.

    If not, pick something you are interested in. What unique knowledge or skills do you have that could provide value to others? What topic can you talk about endlessly without getting bored?
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    • Profile picture of the author Apra Barua
      Originally Posted by cashcow View Post

      You should look into a niche that you are interested in.
      Without genuine interest, you will very soon lose interest in growing your business and it doesn't matter if you make a few bucks here and there. In the long run, you will not be happy doing what you do and most probably think what if I had WMAO in this or that niche? Every niche has its problems which needs to be addressed and help to people can be provided. If you do some soul searching first to find out what really interests you then it will help you in running your business...
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  • Profile picture of the author Ryan David
    If you're sick of all the garbage, them remove yourself from the niches where all the garbage is dropped off (all the ones you named above). I make plenty of money and don't have any (or many) sleezes in my niche.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeff Schuman
      Sell what you use.

      Did you know that Warren Buffet buys stocks, or companies that make products he himself uses. Companies such as Dairy Queen, Geico, American Express, His Berkshire Hathaway Corp. just bought Heinz Ketchup. I see a trend with the world's 3rd richest person.

      If you find a product you like maybe you can find an affiliate program offering it and start selling it. This could be Amazon or millions of unknown affiliate programs you can find on Google and in affiliate networks online.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
    The solution is to enter a niche where you have some experience or knowledge. Otherwise you're just bullshitting people.

    Now you don't need to be the worlds leading expert to teach other people on the subject you just need to know more than your average person.
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  • Profile picture of the author mogulmap
    Originally Posted by coreytucker View Post

    I want to sale good quality products that help people.
    With that mindset I have no doubt you will be successful in any niche you choose!

    Right on!
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      The dating/relationships "niche"? Really? Really??

      This isn't a niche. It's a huge market.

      I had the TV on the other day, and without trying, I saw ads for half a dozen different dating sites. Sites for black folks, Christian folks, older folks, country folk, and more. Sites for people looking for "the one" and sites for people looking to cheat on "the one"...

      I'm waiting for a TV ad for an Amish dating site.

      You have to pick a piece of the market you can handle.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeff Schuman
        Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

        The dating/relationships "niche"? Really? Really??

        I'm waiting for a TV ad for an Amish dating site.

        You have to pick a piece of the market you can handle.
        I didn't know you were Amish John. Seriously could an Amish person catch a big fish like you can.
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      • Profile picture of the author Trev81
        Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

        The dating/relationships "niche"? Really? Really??

        This isn't a niche. It's a huge market.

        I had the TV on the other day, and without trying, I saw ads for half a dozen different dating sites. Sites for black folks, Christian folks, older folks, country folk, and more. Sites for people looking for "the one" and sites for people looking to cheat on "the one"...

        I'm waiting for a TV ad for an Amish dating site.

        You have to pick a piece of the market you can handle.
        First thing I thought when I read some of the posts. They are markets.

        Pets>pet parrots>pet amazon parrots

        Market>niche>micro niche

        That's how I break it down. Find something that way.
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  • Profile picture of the author jeffreyaman
    Just because other marketers in the MMO or Health niche may sometimes promote or create products that suck doesn't mean you have to too :-) Crappy products in a niche actually HELPS you if your service or product is good. If somebody has been scammed and then they find your awesome service or products, they will be a customer for life.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gonzosan
      I have to agree with what some have said in here. Don't get into a niche that looks good, get into a niche you can become an expert in. If you don't know the first thing about fat loss then don't get into that niche selling stuff you don't even understand yourself.

      I myself could never get into affiliate marketing because I couldn't find a product that I loved. Not to say that there isn't any I just didn't find something I could feel comfortable selling to people. Too many people just find something that looks good and jump into it looking for dollar signs. I personally found a niche that I enjoy and I'm starting to build a business around it. I actually look forward to providing useful info for people by becoming an expert in something I already enjoy.
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  • Profile picture of the author ronrule
    Originally Posted by coreytucker View Post

    Hi,

    My main problem with internet marketing is its hard to help people. It seems like everyone is so concerned about making money.
    You're looking at this all wrong. If your goal is to "help people", start a charity. Marketing is about making money. People don't create products to help people, they create products that can help people so people will buy them and the seller makes money.
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  • Profile picture of the author coreytucker
    wow guys. Thanks for all of the replies! So much good info here. I think I am going to get into the dating/relationship niche. I will research the heck out of it and use some life experience too. I feel like this is a good honest niche that I can help people in.

    I do not see anything wrong with selling dating/relationship products. I opposed to the health products because I feel like they need to see a doctor or something. I dont feel comfortable giving medical advice to my list and "playing doctor."

    I actually had a weight loss list that was quite big and I deleted it because of this once people started asking me questions about getting dizzy doing my exercise routines etc because they had diabetes. I realized I was in no place to give this advice. These over weight people had medical conditions and were listening to my advice through emails. I didn't want to be responsible for someone hurting themselves etc.

    But in the dating niche I will just take an honest approach. I will try pick ups myself and share the results etc. I really think this will be good. Now I just need to figure out how to approach finding solo ads in this niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author jchengery
    Hello Corey,

    Keep in mind that the true meaning of Internet marketing is where you provide a product or service that helps people - that's what real Internet marketing is. Unfortunately, all of the hype about making big money (and you CAN make big money if you're willing to work at it, not the "make $1 million in 30 minutes or by tomorrow" statements) has brought out people who think they should make big money immediately, and they go to almost any lengths to do it, even promoting and/or creating inferior products that really shouldn't be marketed because they really don't help people as they should. That's the problem.

    All of those niches you mentioned, along with the pet care niche (agree it's underrated), are good ones. People will always be travelling (even if the Star Trek transporter comes to pass one day, :-), people will still be wanting somewhere to go, and still may want to stay in that location too).

    Other possible niches can include

    - hair loss/taking care of your hair
    - healthy eating
    - organic foods (both the foods themselves, the debate over whether they are better than non-organic food or not, the higher cost, etc.)
    - Time management (we never seem to have enough time on our hands, and especially in this crazy digital world! :-)
    - Self improvement (another big one- and who doesn't want to keep improving? :-)

    Hopefully, this has given you some more ideas - good luck!

    Take care,

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  • Profile picture of the author simpleguy
    Hey Corey,

    First off you have the right attitude. Helping people is what it's about for me as well. There are plenty of good products on CB but you have to buy them to see which one you are comfortable with. But beyond CB there are also systems that help people, such as marketing systems, which is my focus. Lots of people don't like to be bothered with installing WP blogs etc. and rather have a complete system, ready to go.

    Originally Posted by coreytucker View Post

    Hi,

    My main problem with internet marketing is its hard to help people. It seems like everyone is so concerned about making money. People are promoting guides on how to cure health problems etc. The problem is a lot of these guides don't work. I don't want to be part of this.

    I want to sale good quality products that help people. This is why I like amazon. At least these are quality products that I feel good selling. But many of the ebooks were garbage. But surely I am missing something? Maybe someone can help me?

    - I want to build a list in a niche where I can help people ( build list with solo ads but not in health or mmo niche)
    - I want to have many products/ guides to sale this list

    What niche should I look into? I like click bank sometimes as long as the ebooks are good. I just want to make money and help people at true same time
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  • Profile picture of the author George Wright
    What we sometimes fail to realize, is the fact that there is a HUGE market and I mean HUGE that wants to be entertained (for lack of a better word) by the info products they buy.

    To that end there are tried and true sources for such entertainment and there has been for a long time.

    For instance as a kid I bought tons of "Opportunity" magazines that offered how to information on literally hundreds of start up guides for businesses from carpet cleaning to dog grooming to yard care to roofing, on and on.

    I had to rush to the news stand to get my copies of said mags because they were always quickly sold out.

    Do you think the tens of thousands of buyers/readers of these mags started up all the businesses written about. No they didn't. believe it or not reading such info is "recreational reading" for many.

    We are always jumping on consumers of "shiny new objects," however, most of us are quite happy when the next shiny objects hits the market because we like it.

    Another thing. It's the same with offering services.

    Although it may be hard to believe, there are thousands of small business owners out there who want a website just so they can say they have a website or for some other reason than adding to their bottom line.

    It used to be quite the popular thing here to get into debates about the web builders who provided websites that did nothing vs the ones who "made money" for their customers. Not so much any more. (Since the advent of the offline forum)

    My point is that when it comes to products and when it comes to services there is a market for them for many different reasons.

    You don't have to be ashamed to provide products and services that don't "help" if your target customers are not looking for "help." Maybe they want what you have for reasons other than the obvious. In which case you've "helped" them anyway.

    By the way, I recently picked up a copy of an Opportunity Magazine I used to buy long ago. Guess what the "start up" business articles are about now. If you guessed MMO, you would be correct.

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  • Profile picture of the author David Keith
    You are exactly right George.

    that being said, I think people like the OP struggle with the fact that they can't sell such things as entertainment, rather they have to make a flashy sales page and promise the world so to speak.

    So while the seller and often times even the buyers know "whats up" there is still a good bit of deception type games that must be played to be successful selling how to make money guides primarily for entertainment purposes.

    Your conversion rate on a bright shiny new how to make money guide would be pitiful if you pitched it as just a way to spend $7 and 2 hours of your life that wont really ever work to make you any money...But its just as entertaining as the new blockbuster movie hit.
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    • Profile picture of the author George Wright
      Right David,

      And on the word Entertainment, I did say for lack of a better word.

      I have found though that face to face, people tell me what they want service wise.

      "I don't need no new customers," (Grammar his not mine) One client told me, then he went on to say, "What I do need is a website to show my banker, he said I needed a website if I want to be considered for a loan."

      Another one told me, "I want a website because my brother has a website."

      On the Entertainment (again, for lack of a better word) Info Products. I've got a lot of positive feedback on mine because of the "feel good," or "funny," or "Genius," (yes genius) info/ideas in them. And I know my fans hardly ever follow my advice.

      To be fair, I've gotten some hate mail also. Strange thing though, when I read it I swear they are not talking about my product, it's as if they didn't even read my sales letter and sometimes even the product itself.

      George Wright

      Originally Posted by David Keith View Post

      You are exactly right George.

      that being said, I think people like the OP struggle with the fact that they can't sell such things as entertainment, rather they have to make a flashy sales page and promise the world so to speak.

      So while the seller and often times even the buyers know "whats up" there is still a good bit of deception type games that must be played to be successful selling how to make money guides primarily for entertainment purposes.

      Your conversion rate on a bright shiny new how to make money guide would be pitiful if you pitched it as just a way to spend $7 and 2 hours of your life that wont really ever work to make you any money...lol But its just as entertaining as the new blockbuster movie hit.
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      • Profile picture of the author wingman7
        I think you should be careful about the "helping people" idea.

        Products and services are constantly changing. Many of the highly successful ones sell ideas...like apple iphones. Sure, some people get great value from the new model. But most buy because its new, flash, fashionable, trendy, bob's got one etc.

        There is a heavy oversupply of products and services in our "marketing" economy. If you want to sell something focus on "wants" not "needs.

        The charity shops are full of needs. The big retailers are full of "wants". They got that way because they give people what they want!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    Corey, you realize that there is a lot of junk in the dating market right? How are you going to "help people" versus pitch everything that has a commission attached?

    On your other thread, for example, you are talking about sending a new promotion every week. That's 52 high quality dating and relationship offers a year - have you found that many yet?

    And you have to ask yourself another question - if you are truly in this to help someone, does someone with that attitude have a revolving list of new shiny objects (the next big thing, the real secret to picking up women, how to get more...) they keep throwing at their contacts? Is that helpful or is that just out to make a buck at someone's expense?

    My point is that you need to be clear about what you're doing and why. If you are going to write of MMO or Health because of XYZ, then don't go and do XYZ in the dating market.

    Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author MovingAround
    I understand your intention to "help" people, but, once you get good enough traffic and establish yourself, you will come at a crossroad where you have to make the decision to either trade part of your good intentions for da moneyz or continue consuming your time without making the most amount of money. This doesn't mean that you become a charlatan as many of your quoted niches have; it means that you have to become more efficient, and answering every single email/post/request for help from your readers will become impossible. I get 20-30 help-type questions every day and I cannot keep up with it, which of course is not understood by the question asker and you normally lose him/her as a reader; however, for everyone I lose I gain 10 more as I have increased my efficiency.

    It's good that now that you're beginning you have good intentions, but don't think internet marketing or being an online authority is all about flowers and smiling rainbows.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Long
    Try re-framing your point of view just slightly and you might find your answer.

    I struggled with this one too - for years.

    You see, I'm not much of a marketer - most of the tactics used in the industry turn my stomach, quite frankly.

    But I finally found my "fit" in this world when I re-framed what my purpose was in marketing online.

    I simply changed my goals from "helping people" to "teaching people".

    It's a subtle shift....so subtle that you might completely miss it the first time you look at it, and think that there's no difference between the two.

    The idea of "helping people" is completely vague and unwieldy. Helping people do what, exactly?

    But when you re-frame to the idea of "teaching people", things start to clarify.

    When you ask, "what do I want to teach someone?" the answer should be much clearer and easier to find.

    When you have your answer, you create a product that "teaches" people that very thing. When you're ready to promote it, you do so as a "course" instead of a "product" - you set the expectation that you have something to offer people who want to learn a specific thing.

    Again, it's subtle, but for those who struggle with the idea of marketing being a non-stop pitch fest where the goal is to remove as much money from the pockets of others as possible, this tiny shift can make a HUGE difference.

    When positioned this way, you don't have to sell as hard. And even for the unavoidable selling you'll have to do, you'll feel MUCH better about it, because you have pre-defined the environment (student/teacher) and pre-defined the product (an eCourse in this case).

    tl;dr - The idea of "helping people" is too vague. Re-frame to "teaching people" to find the balance between altruistic ideals and the unavoidable necessity of marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author affhelper
    Originally Posted by coreytucker View Post

    Hi,

    My main problem with internet marketing is its hard to help people. It seems like everyone is so concerned about making money..........................I just want to make money and help people at true same time
    Looks like you are on the same boat as those you are talking about.
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    • Profile picture of the author Importexport
      Originally Posted by George Wright View Post

      Right David,

      And on the word Entertainment, I did say for lack of a better word.

      I have found though that face to face, people tell me what they want service wise.

      "I don't need no new customers," (Grammar his not mine) One client told me, then he went on to say, "What I do need is a website to show my banker, he said I needed a website if I want to be considered for a loan."

      Another one told me, "I want a website because my brother has a website."

      On the Entertainment (again, for lack of a better word) Info Products. I've got a lot of positive feedback on mine because of the "feel good," or "funny," or "Genius," (yes genius) info/ideas in them. And I know my fans hardly ever follow my advice.

      To be fair, I've gotten some hate mail also. Strange thing though, when I read it I swear they are not talking about my product, it's as if they didn't even read my sales letter and sometimes even the product itself.


      George Wright
      Originally Posted by Mike Long View Post

      Try re-framing your point of view just slightly and you might find your answer.

      I struggled with this one too - for years.

      You see, I'm not much of a marketer - most of the tactics used in the industry turn my stomach, quite frankly.

      But I finally found my "fit" in this world when I re-framed what my purpose was in marketing online.

      I simply changed my goals from "helping people" to "teaching people".

      It's a subtle shift....so subtle that you might completely miss it the first time you look at it, and think that there's no difference between the two.

      The idea of "helping people" is completely vague and unwieldy. Helping people do what, exactly?

      But when you re-frame to the idea of "teaching people", things start to clarify.

      When you ask, "what do I want to teach someone?" the answer should be much clearer and easier to find.

      When you have your answer, you create a product that "teaches" people that very thing. When you're ready to promote it, you do so as a "course" instead of a "product" - you set the expectation that you have something to offer people who want to learn a specific thing.

      Again, it's subtle, but for those who struggle with the idea of marketing being a non-stop pitch fest where the goal is to remove as much money from the pockets of others as possible, this tiny shift can make a HUGE difference.

      When positioned this way, you don't have to sell as hard. And even for the unavoidable selling you'll have to do, you'll feel MUCH better about it, because you have pre-defined the environment (student/teacher) and pre-defined the product (an eCourse in this case).

      tl;dr - The idea of "helping people" is too vague. Re-frame to "teaching people" to find the balance between altruistic ideals and the unavoidable necessity of marketing.
      Hi George and Mike,

      You are both quite right. Only a small percentage of people who buy eBooks actually use the product or follow the advice. I receive questions from buyers of my book and it is obvious that they have at the most glanced at it because the answers are right there in the book.

      When mentioning my book on forums I also always refer to teaching rather than helping. I do provide help in the form of ongoing advice and answers to questions, but the object of my book is to teach a simple way to safely source and import products.

      All this leads to a little problem for me. My niche is not big, being product sourcing and importing, and my approach is very straight forward, and as a result it does not appeal to affiliates. I won't change, because I abhor the hyped up marketing that pervades the internet and I won't make wild promises.

      I guess I will just plod along. At least this is a hobby for me so I don't depend on the income, but I am enjoying what I am doing. I know I have actually taught some of my book readers what they need to know, because I have received emails telling me how well it is going for them. Very rewarding.

      Maybe if I needed the money I would approach it differently, but I would never use the hard sell tactics that so many have condemned on this thread.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Long
        Originally Posted by Importexport View Post

        I know I have actually taught some of my book readers what they need to know, because I have received emails telling me how well it is going for them. Very rewarding.

        Maybe if I needed the money I would approach it differently, but I would never use the hard sell tactics that so many have condemned on this thread.
        It's a tough thing. I used to get SO frustrated that so many people would ask me for help, then flat out ignore everything I had to say. It's one of the reasons I gave up coaching. Even though it was lucrative, I was stressing myself out beyond all reasonable levels.

        If I could put a number on it, I'd say that about 1 in 750 people that I cross paths with will ever actually attempt to put what I teach into practice.

        But when it works...oh man. There are two people I helped way back in the day who have now FAR surpassed anything I've done online. There isn't a better feeling in the world than knowing you were able to play a small role in someone else's success.

        And ultimately....that's why I keep coming back to this crazy, screwed up niche.
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    The Dating niche is very popular but the one suggestion I have for you is to laser target a specified group of people in the dating niche (or any other niche). For Example: "How to get dates after being divorced" or "How to pick up Foreign Women" etc. Dont just focus on "Dating" its too broad. Hope this helps
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  • Profile picture of the author dbrwn
    If you want to help people online, then start by helping them with what you know about marketing online. That's a great start in the right direction.

    If you know what really works, then teach these people that instead of guiding them towards yet another download or something like that. Start up your own coaching program where you offer quality material that you know works and will help other people to succeed.
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  • Profile picture of the author dancaron
    Don't be the content expert. Find someone who really has something golden. Then cut them in and share the profits. Find someone with massive credibility and an excellent product. It will make your life much easier and more profitable.
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  • Profile picture of the author zeroaffiliate
    Originally Posted by coreytucker View Post

    Hi,

    My main problem with internet marketing is its hard to help people. It seems like everyone is so concerned about making money. People are promoting guides on how to cure health problems etc. The problem is a lot of these guides don't work. I don't want to be part of this.

    I want to sale good quality products that help people. This is why I like amazon. At least these are quality products that I feel good selling. But many of the ebooks were garbage. But surely I am missing something? Maybe someone can help me?

    - I want to build a list in a niche where I can help people ( build list with solo ads but not in health or mmo niche)
    - I want to have many products/ guides to sale this list

    What niche should I look into? I like click bank sometimes as long as the ebooks are good. I just want to make money and help people at true same time
    I agree that there is alot of junk out there but there is many quality products too. Since you already knows what's garbage, take some time to find a really good product first and just promote all you can too.

    I wouldn't be too worried about the niche though. Find something you like and just work at it.
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  • Profile picture of the author jachu2
    Solution is just to find your passion and then write about it. Focus on creating your own website, your own voice on the internet, your own customer list and finally your own product.
    You can easily make these products with Microsoft Power Point and a Camtasia-like recording software. You can even just make eBooks in Word and publish as a PDF document.
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  • Profile picture of the author Backlinko
    Originally Posted by coreytucker View Post


    My main problem with internet marketing is its hard to help people. It seems like everyone is so concerned about making money.
    This is actually an opportunity.

    With so many people trying to make money with crappy content, it's a chance for you to stand out.

    I recommend reading this: Stop Trying to Make Money Online | Copyblogger

    It's basically what you're saying: everyone's trying to make money online...but few are.

    Ironically, the people trying THE LEAST to make money online are making the most!

    How?

    By helping people and providing value.

    That's not all there is to it, of course, but it's a helluva good start.

    You can make a few bucks with shady landing pages + PPC and single-page SEO crap.

    But to make money over the long-term (which is what you want, right?), you need to start adding value.
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