To Spin or Not to Spin Articles?

To spin is to spam, so ask yourself if you're awesome - or a spammer? Spam is "black hat" and pollutes the web, and waste peoples precious time. This is the wrong way to make money and it will eventually bite you in the ass (thank you Google)

By all means spin.
It is not SPAM.
How many articles are on the 'net that say say the same thing using different language?
One of the first books I read by a prominent marketer said "Cheating is allowed. Lying is not".
At worst, spinning an article is cheating.
My personal opinion is it is not cheating. It is a perfectly legitimate and very common part of marketing.

DO NOT SPIN Google's algorithms are so good now that they can tell original, unique content from spun content. they are pretty harsh on cracking down because they value the user experience so much. you will be penalized and your site will never rank well for your keywords.

always write quality, unique content. its the only way to go if you want to survive long term.

DO NOT spin. There is no need to do that, and whoever told you that there is a need for that is quite an amateur.

YES you should MANUALLY spin if you want to make backlinks...but make sure it's readable...With 600 article you can produce hundred of thousand articles that could be used in many ways...

That's my practice with Magic Submitter...Feel free to watch how I spin article, images and videos in my video #4 below...

Blackhat ?? everyone does that anyway to gain authority and ranking..

No don't spin. Just use them as inspiration to create your own unique articles. Spun articles are unreadable, laughable, and will make your readers not like you. By the time you get finish editing a spun article, you could have written two 500-word articles from scratch.

You could also print them out and fold them into paper planes yourself to save hiring an origamist to do so.

It would be just as pointless, but at least you'd have some fun in the park.

I'd say it depends on what you're trying to accomplish and how you feel about spinning. My first thought is that if you have any doubts or reservations (which it sounds like you do) don't do it. I can tell that deep down inside you really don't want to do it. So why compromise your own reality to accommodate other people's views. Just know what you know and keep forging ahead. Slow and steady, in your case, I think will win the day...!

I do both and i cant seem to see any difference in the rankings with are affiliate sites. One thing im sure of that google probably will crack down in the future more on it. So i guess if you can afford not to spin its better but sometimes its just not that time productive.

I can spin an article that's more unique than most articles out nowadays, because most people rehash their stuff, so in the end their article is only like 30% unique, although google is smart enough to know the difference between a spun article and a rehashed one.

Hello betterwtveter,

I agree with the many who say that writing your own articles will work better long term, as Google will just crack down more and more on spun articles. I also agree with lcombs: PLR articles can be a great way to get the creative juices flowing- you can often rewrite PLR articles to make quality articles in less time than if you write those articles from scratch. That is one shortcut to making quality articles.

Therefore, while it MIGHT be possible to get away with spun articles if you really work it, those chances will become less and less in the future as Google gets smarter. You're much better off writing quality articles from scratch or using PLR articles and REWRITING them to make brand new articles from the material in those PLR articles. Always be willing to use Copyscape to make sure your articles are unique as well before you post them and/or submit them to article directories (such as EzineArticles.com, etc.).

Hope this helps- good luck!

Take care,

Joe Chengery

Do not spin, rewrite maybe... what I would suggest is to read the article you want to spin and instead write it in a different perspective. You'll end up with a quality, unique article this way while utilizing your old articles.

I personally would never spin my own articles.

I am not saying you couldn't but think about this for a second.

I would much rather be spending the time spinning my article in using social media, list building, excellent link building and so many more...

You know what I mean?

Let's not get caught up in the craze of link building and forgetting so many other important aspects of promoting a blog.

There are different qualities in spinning articles. When you will be spinning the articles with synonyms with a good spinner, it will not create a meaningless article but a unique one. I have used Spinrewriter.com and it produced very good quality spun articles. If are in article marketing, you should spin your articles and post them into article syndicating site to get the maximum value of each article. 600 articles can be used in at least 3000 sites.

The thing is not the same if you are willing to submit those articles into your own website. There, every time post manually written articles. Spinning is recommended for article submission.

The internet these days particularly since this last years Google updates is all about quality.

Poorly spun content basically produces bad grammar. That is what Google identifies and doesn't like.

By all means take different sections of your articles and create new ones... and maybe add new comments or info to them. If it's good content and well structured then Google will only reward you for it.

Think of content curation. When done correctly Google is big on this because it increases user experience and also showcases "good content" whether it exists already or not.

When you see the same news report or article on lots of different sites, this is syndication or curation at play. Use what you have to create new content and article and add to it. This will save you time and allow you to maximize the content you already have.

Hope that helps.

Spinning is so 2010. It's unnecessary and has the potential to do more harm to your business than help. Actually it probably won't help you at all.

Just say no to spinning.

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Nobody will read a spun article. You want people to enjoy reading your post. If they do they will read more or click on a link.

I think this thread should have a poll on it.

I also think it is a good idea not to spin articles.

YES YOU CAN SPIN. HERES WHY.
1st I think it depends on what you want . If you only want few articles like 3 - 4, i would just rewrite it myself.

BUTTTTTT, if its like u want 20+ or something like that I would SPIN , MANUAL SPIN!

Reguardless what people are saying you CAN spin. But by that I mean MANUAL spinning. Not hitting some button to auto spin from software.

BUT only using software to help orginaize the Bracets "{ , } , and | " as it can get confusing. Also for sylbol ideas. As its quicker to click them in then type them 1 by 1. Also use Nested spinning. then you can add pictures, you can. can Spin the picture titles, the picture html, and spin the HTML codes too. so you can have pictures randomly show on top, bottom, middle left or right. or if you insert blank spin, you can have sometimes no pic show up at all too. even random the size of the pic, random the pic its even using all together.

sometimes Spin what to Underline, or bold. etc.

alternate using bullet points, vs not using them.
Spinning CAN be still done. but most ppl here probaly dont do that. The only down side is that it can by MIND NUMBING! took me like 6hours to do 1 500word article. the 1st time i did that because I had to take repeated breaks. But its QUALITY and NO one could tell if it was spun or not. yes even google cant tell. If you do it right. MANUALLY.

Its better then rerighting 500 word articles yourself if your looking for alot of articles. you can get hundreads if not thousands of READABLE unique quality articles. with out a VA or expenice. just some time.

so its up to you.

So far your spinning is good, its not spam and it is at the same time helpful for people and also useful for your own site. But, if spinning is of bad quality, then it is spam and you should always avoid it.

Do not spin your articles. I agree that whatever created by software is a "trash". Apparently, it also applies to spun articles. Better to play on the safe side than ending up with all your efforts and money being wasted.

I never spin articles.

I feel that freshly produced content is best for your overall business, and it's better for readers as well.

Jake

Agreed @faisalmaximus
but u see guys why Im saying why you CAN spin? read my post at #31

think about what you all are saying when u oppose it. your saying that your letting the software create the syntax/spintax for you...but obviously it gives you non readable junk. what im telling you is, for YOUUUUUUUUUUU, and not the SOFTWARE, to decide what the syntax is. instead YOUUUUUUUUUUUUU put in the spintax yourself as YOU would know what would be readable , and NOT the program.

That means MANUALLY adding the brackets and words YOUURRRRSELF....adding picture links yourself , using nesting, Spinning More then just words. But spinning sentences, and the words with in them, there are many techniques. sure it takes some work to do what i mentioned, but then thats the POINT. if you do the typical, 5 second thing like pasting the content in then hit favorites or auto spin, YOUR DOING IT WRONG . if done by mixing things up, and making sure your combinations read carfully you can have hundreads to thousands of great articles.

but like i mentioned before , thats if you want ALOT of articles in the 1st place. Spinning does wonders but leaving it on complete AUTO pilot is the WRONG way to go about it. just like you can use SENUKE or GSA or MagitSubmitter on auto pilot, but ull just get spam and etc, you have to put your input and make it how you want it to come out how you would want it. thats the whole point. you can automate things but TOTAL automation is never good. theres no way im personally gonna hire someone to write hundreads and hundreds of articles by hand and expect them to be done is a quick fasion like in the same day or so. for like 100-1000s of articles. it will take them a while.

if you know how to spin CORRECTLY with YOUUURRRRR input then it makes much sense. It can be done. But theres more then 1 way to skin a cat. but no way im gonna hire multiple VAs to do something like that, I mean if you have tons of money for it then cool. but they will never be as fast as taking the time to create the spintax yourself and get the huge amount of quality post in quick time.

Depends on what exactly you are going to spin. Spinning real articles is not a good idea for many reason. On the other hand, spinning of short (a few words - to one sentence) descriptions, video/image titles etc works just perfect.

Article spinning is Black hat Seo , so by doing so you will be penalized by Google, so it won`t make you any good.

Looks like what you're doing is working fine. Keep up with original content and don't spin. As was said before Google is getting better at finding spun content. Since this is really a time investment I'd use your time to do it right the first time so you don't have to make up for any spun content you make that Google might penalize.

spinning articles is a very enticing method to churn out a lot of articles but it will only hurt you. Google has a lot of scripting that will seek out spun articles and ding you for it if not completely remove you from the search engine.

My advice? Write original articles. take a feww articles and make a few articles from them if you must, just make sure they have a different feel and they don't sound unnatural which any spun article will sound like

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I actually spin my content but I use a program called SpinRewriter. Most of your spinners basically substitute synonyms so the meaning of the article remains unchanged. What I like about SpinRewriter is that it actually adds sentences to your article and rewrites your paragraphs at a level I've never seen before. Yes article marketing (if done right) is one of the best strategies out there. But to really be effective you have to create a lot of unique content, and when I mean a lot I mean a lot. It's a numbers game. The more articles you publish the more ezines your article will show up in.

It is nothing wrong with using a spinner to help you edit but your content needs to be 100% unique. Take the topic/article find something in it you would like to point out and make an original article. You can not just spin a article and put it up it does not work anymore.

Whenever you say the word "spin" a FLOOD of assumptions start beating down the threads.

1) That spun articles are crap. <-- Assumption based on the crap easily found in the wild that was spun by lazy amateurs.

However it is impossible to identify a truly high-quality spun article in the wild. So it's just easier to say they don't exist - and that spinning is as lazy does. <-- Another Assumption

A high-quality spun article can not be detected as spun. AND along those same lines, who is to say that the original article wasn't the garbage and it was spun into a rose? You would never know...because it would be impossible to find.

2) Big G penalizes spun articles and they will hurt your site <-- Assumption again based on #1 above...and also regurgitated theory from reading posts in forums.

I laugh while reading threads where people say what Mr G will or won't do. We know what they want based on what they say...but we also know they don't always get what they want. And we know that regular Joes are getting whacked all the time for doing nothing "wrong" at all.

So why are you building your business around a glorified directory of URLS anyway? No wonder they treat you like they own you. Stand up, brush the dust off your face and stop bowing at their feet waiting for your next crumb of bread in exchange for obeying their every ambiguous command.

3) There is never a reason to spin articles for marketing. And that the only point to article marketing is link building.<-- Assuming that spinning is ONLY used for distributing articles to directories for the purpose of trying to get link juice.

Believe it or not there is a reason to distribute (not syndicate) unique content besides getting links. And that is to get and have (some) control over a presence on as many other web properties that will allow it. It does not make sense in cost or effort to write or have written this content from scratch. And that does not mean that an article that is re-written (re-purposed) and spun correctly is spam or black-hat. Pfff PUH-LEASE!!

There are a TON of properties to post your message on in all kinds of ways, re-purposed or not. This is about presence expansion. These properties are not to replace your main self-hosted property, but instead to piggy back your message onto other properties to expand your brand...through recognition and authority. And YES even without a link back at all! Spray your brand and authority as far and wide as you can and you won't need links.

And believe it or not, in this case if you WERE to use duplicate content on those other brand expanding properties your duplicate content would be hidden under the supplemental results link...and that = sucks.

Yes there is a high quality, safe way to do that using articles carefully written and spun and distributed to each of these properties WITHOUT those properties (who all rank differently) ending up in the supplemental results <--- which is a duplicate content penalty.

Another HUGE reason to spin content is in the case of retail physical products. One SKU may fit thousands of different washing machines etc. and each part number has its own page but uses the same title and description. Spinning titles and descriptions and even images, again, can keep those other part numbers' pages out of the supplemental results.

And if you REALLY know what you're doing, spinning can also be used for a LOT of high end inventory marketing through part number and database management etc.

Even spinning code (html PHP) -- try your hand at developing thousands of fully unique, complete and uniquely coded websites <--- That is, if you've got it in ya.

- YES there are crappy ways and reasons to spin articles that are easy to spot and whack.

- YES There are very legitimate ways and reasons to spin articles and OTHER REALLY COOL stuff if you take the time to learn it...and put the effort into making your own rules instead of letting behemoths and theories control you.

-YES Running your business through the assumptive eyes of prejudiced, legalistic purists is extremely limiting to say the least.

Blaze your own trails!

Lol , i wouldnt know! i guess it would depend on the subject! muhahahaha! lol. also by story telling, i mean re-writing.

Remember though, If I had a blog, that I wanted to build over time to grow etc, of course I would have no need for spinning, I would just post daily or every few days, also the topics could be different from time to time and stuff.

but for ranking purposes personally and for tiers 1 and maybe above when im doing pyramids then im spinning all the way, IF i can that is. just all depends on the situation.

Im spinning when I want a faster way to re-write about something in mass quantiy but while keeping it readable and still have pictures and other stuff in it. theres just no way to do that many in 6 hours or less with out tons of va's or super human speed. but give me 6 or less hours and I can great just as good stuff but that can be in the mass quantity.

but obviously i wouldnt need like 20 30 new blog post a day all on re-writing the same exact topic. it makes no sense. because me mentioning a topic on my page just ONCE would be enough. Its On page. anything off page, if im trying to emulate tons of people talking 'creating buzz' about what I wrote on my blog, based on THAT article, then thats where spinning can be of some use. nothing wrong with that

And the conclusion is???

Spin or No Spin??

Cheers,

I'd say no. You can only create junk links by spinning, since the output is usually still pretty poor.

The best spinner I've found is spin rewriter, it does a pretty good job, but you still have to proof read a few of the versions.

To me this then becomes pretty much the same thing as rewriting it manually, only you get a much better result in the end if you do (mostly!)

@hog, i agree yes . quality IS important and it is about the readers. But in my case if its something that has be done over and over so many times, theres nothing wrong with spinning. sure you can get traffic from readers through the links too. but im saying honestly thats what my main site is for. as for using tiers theres no way im gonna spend the same amount of time from scratch offpage just to pump out 2 articles. I dont want to come back tommorow, and write another 2+ more, day in and out. im mainly. If my site alone and backlinks didnt exist and I had to only focus on my blog or money site then I wouldnt need the spinning. i only spin offsite stuff when needed. for example, i DONT spin blog commenting. I do all of that after reading the post and doing a legit comment about it. thats my point. it has its uses, and what im trying to say is that you can STILL have GREAT spun content. Spin can = sucky , or good.

it just saves time, when I need time to be saved or used efficiantly. its not 1 size fits all. but lets say im doing tons of tiers or so to rank something quickly, theres no way im gonna write MANUAL articles or web 2.0s etc for EACH tier. are you really going to write hundreds of articals maybe thousands on tier 3+? thats crazy. its time wasted at that level. but for sure on the main site like Ill say again, i dont spin. because 1st off it makes no sense to repeat yourself talking about the samething. Even if manually writing from scratch.

If your making each blog post a new topic or sub topic then spinning or paraphrasing are both errelevent at that main level. Unless your updating something that has data thats outdated, then you can write something updated from scratch. What Im getting at is posting something that needs to be posted tons of times of a topic? are you really going to re-write, why bill gates likes icecream 500 times for each new domain or unique subdomain? no way your not. at the end of the day it depends on the situation and the numbers vs time. But , as for things being readable, it depends on YOU. spining or no spinning. Some people like re-writing things from scratch, but I dont, i have other things to do sometimes. i have no problem writing 5 articles that Each talk of something DIFFERENT. but if you have to write about 500 articles for 5 different topics. theres no reason why you should sit down and redo the same EXACT topic and SAME refrence 500 times each.

if someone depends on a computer to decide what the content is then you have no chance of having something of quality which is obvious. but if you make it work and follow YOUR rules , knowing the pros and cons, time vs effort vs output, and various other reasons then by all means.

its like why use calculators or use spreadsheets when we can count by hand and use paper? you just use it when it justifies sometimes. im not gonna goto my calculator and do 1+1 when i would of solved it instantly in my head. nothing is always static, things can be dynamic. its just how you do things.

Most people don´t know how to spin the right way. I have lots of "spun" articles all over the place and you would never know they were "spun".

As a small example :

Today, I took a PLR article and opened it in notepad. I found 7 repetitions of the word "people" which I changed to the word "folks" or "individuals" using the find / replace function in Notepad.

I found 3 repetitions of the word "many" which I changed to "a lot" or "numerous" using the find / replace function in Notepad.

I quickly changed about 10 other words which had 3 or more repetitions in the PLR article

I also changed the main keyword of the article, which was "saw palmetto for hair loss" to "saw palmetto for hair regrowth".

So, as an example, one sentence of the PLR article was :

Many people are looking for more details about saw palmetto for hair loss as a natural solution to avoid becoming bald.

After "spinning" it or re-writing it, using search and replace function in Notepad and synonyms from my own brain :

A lot of folks are searching for more info on saw palmetto for hair regrowth as a natural remedy to escape the condition of baldness.

Now, does that look "spun" ?

And, I don´t care about "spinning" articles to get link juice, SEO benefits or to avoid "duplicate content" and the wrath of G00gle.

I divorced G00gle and most SEO efforts anyway, after the Penguin update.

I spin or re-write articles for very different reasons, which have nothing to do with G00gle.

see it's that spinning is for the lazy why spinning is looked down upon, I spent 5 hours once spinning a super article, and that's the most time I spent on any article, with these articles you can see 100%-130% uniqueness, you can't find a true spun article on fiverr these days, and most outsourcers don't know how to do it properly.

it's funny how all these penalties come along but I still see sites on the top that use those tactics.

If something is good information then why not SPIN it or re-write it... good and valuable information should be shared

"Its not worth it"? What the hell are you people talking about?

I feel like I'm on a contractor forum and people are saying "don't use a hammer.. its not worth it! You might break a window!!"

Look, google doesn't care if you use spun articles and nor do your readers if you have half a clue what you're doing. You can follow all the rules and google will still find a reason to penalize your site.

I've been working on my last spintax 2 hours a day for the last 10 days straight. Spun 7 paragraphs deep per paragraph, 10 sentences per sentence, and as many words as make sense. When this beast is done it will give me a few thousand perfectly written articles, for about 20-25 hours worth of work. I put a lot of time into my spintaxes so they come out perfect on every spin. Its really not hard if you practice. Same way you should PRACTICE swinging a hammer if you've never done it before.

But to sit around and say "its not worth it"? Seriously. Your brain will work a lot better if you spend less time using it in such a convenient/simplistic fashion. Try thinking about things in more than 1 context. I know it might be hard, but its definitely "worth it". Same as spinning.