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10 years ago

Okay, there's a plugin to lock after x number of invalid logins, that would close up this problem...

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kindsvater 10 years ago

Originally Posted by MartinPlatt

Okay, there's a plugin to lock after x number of invalid logins, that would close up this problem...

Nope. This appears to amount to a DDOS attack.

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- jbyte 10 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by kindsvater
  
  Nope. This appears to amount to a DDOS attack.
  
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  And the host should be able to block the originating ip then
  
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EpicTraffic

10 years ago

Better WP Security and Wordfense free WP plugins are the key to have secured WP install

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Dennisknows 10 years ago

Originally Posted by EpicTraffic

Better WP Security and Wordfense free WP plugins are the key to have secured WP install

Do you use both of these together or choose one?
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- EpicTraffic 10 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Dennisknows
  
  Do you use both of these together or choose one?
  
  All our WP installs (currently more than 50) are using both plugins for secure the WP, and of course server hardening (we use mostly VPS and dedicated servers for our projects). The Better WP Security and Wordfense are compatible. I suggest and have Akismet and Bad Behavior activated too (but this is other topic). Hope this help!
  
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Neil Morgan

10 years ago

I think their point is that plugins etc won't stop the slow-downs and outages as the attacks will continue even if they are rebuffed.

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SarahZT

10 years ago

I got this same message from my hosting provider too. WP security plugins are essential and a step missed my so many unfortunately!

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onSubie

10 years ago

WP Security, plugins and your website configuration have no effect on this problem.

If you have WP- no matter what the security plugins- a 'brute force' attack is going to have the same impact on servers, etc.

If you have a unique login or a "lock-out" feature after x failed attempts, the brute force requests will continue.

Your WP will detect the login attempt and deny it.

And seconds later another request comes.

Every time your site gets a bad login attempt, the security plugins run through their paces, detecting and preventing, which all use server resources and time.

This is what causes the memory consumption and resource problems mentioned in the notice. It is the host servers trying to manage all the requests, not the individual WP sites.

If there was anything you could "do" to stop this, such as disable a common plugin or add a security feature, they would have told you in the notification.

The notification is just FYI letting you know that the attacks are occurring and what the impact could be.

The Host could block attacking IPs but individual web sites on the servers can't stop direct brute force attacks.

Notice it says the most impacted servers are those with limited memory resources. It doesn't say anything about WP security on individual sites being a factor.

Of course, you should have individual site security to prevent your personal vulnerability to unauthorized access.

But secure individual WP sites would not prevent a DDOS attack from affecting the hosts servers.

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BigGameHunter

10 years ago

Originally Posted by onSubie

WP Security, plugins and your website configuration have no effect on this problem.

If you have WP- no matter what the security plugins- a 'brute force' attack is going to have the same impact on servers, etc.

If you have a unique login or a "lock-out" feature after x failed attempts, the brute force requests will continue.

Your WP will detect the login attempt and deny it.

And seconds later another request comes.

Every time your site gets a bad login attempt, the security plugins run through their paces, detecting and preventing, which all use server resources and time.

This is what causes the memory consumption and resource problems mentioned in the notice. It is the host servers trying to manage all the requests, not the individual WP sites.

If there was anything you could "do" to stop this, such as disable a common plugin or add a security feature, they would have told you in the notification.

The notification is just FYI letting you know that the attacks are occurring and what the impact could be.

The Host could block attacking IPs but individual web sites on the servers can't stop direct brute force attacks.

Notice it says the most impacted servers are those with limited memory resources. It doesn't say anything about WP security on individual sites being a factor.

Of course, you should have individual site security to prevent your personal vulnerability to unauthorized access.

But secure individual WP sites would not prevent a DDOS attack from affecting the hosts servers.

That was a very long explanation and you told everything that can't happen.
Not interested in a rehash of the sky is falling. How about a solution instead.

Your opinion of course.

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onSubie

10 years ago

Originally Posted by BigGameHunter

That was a very long explanation and you told everything that can't happen.
Not interested in a rehash of the sky is falling. How about a solution instead.

Your opinion of course.

Well, I just meant the attacks are HTTP requests impacting the host and that individual WP security settings, while protecting an individual site, would not protect the host from the DDOS attack.

Nothing to do with the sky falling.

The http request comes before the request hits a WP installation.

Some replies seemed to imply that this was a WP security issue.

The attacks are attempting to exploit WP vulnerabilities, but the impact on the host servers is from the http requests not WP security problems on individual sites.

So certainly there are things individuals can (and should) do to secure their personal sites and security, but fixing individual WP sites won't stop the http requests and DDOS attack.

If you want a solution you need to look at measures the host can take, not individual sites.

But that is not saying WP security isn't important, just that fixing individual site security won't stop a DDOS attack like this.

And it is the DDOS attack that is slowing the servers and causing the problems related to being able to access web pages.

The problems will stop when the host manages to block the IPs or bots that are conducting the attack, not after all the individual sites have updated their WP security settings.

Someone suggested the solution of protecting your site by blocking IPs from China and Russia.

That is a good idea for an individual site, but impractical for a host.

And in a shared server enviroment this will not have much impact on your site performance since you are sharing your server with many other web sites that are not blocking China and Russia.

So while your site is protected, it is still living on a server that is being inundated with DDOS attacks.

These things (DDOS) happen all the time. It is important to understand what is happening so you don't panic and can properly protect your own sites and files.

Did you read the information at the link provided by Butters?

It has great information. But remember, a site on shared hosting does not have server access and can only protect that individual site, not the server itself.

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kevindemara 10 years ago

I have a plugin called Secure Wordpress - "Basic security checks for securing your WordPress installation". Is this plugin sufficient or can anyone recommend one that will further secure my site against these kinds of attacks? Thx
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davegarcia939

10 years ago

I have the login attempt feature enabled. These days I am receiving many site lock out notification. According to the notifications, most of the attack come from China and Russia.

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Jesus Perez

10 years ago

If you have WHM and you primarily market to the US, UK and other English speaking countries, then I recommend immediately blocking China and Russia at the country level to prevent these WP attacks. All the logs I've seen show these attacks originating from these 2 countries.

How to Block certain countries from accessing your web site on WHM

The above article will protect your entire server with a few clicks.

The country codes you need are "CN,RU".

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kpmedia

10 years ago

htaccess the admin folder.
They can't hack what isn't there.

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Seoptimistic

10 years ago

We had the iframe injection and redirection problems last year and moved some of our websites to dedicated hosting. Attacks has started again nowadays and we are still having problems with some websites (not only Wordpress), especially the .htaccess file which doesn't have permissions to be writted by even owner, is getting some redirection code to russian sites. We are moving all the websites from shared hosting of Godaddy to ovh dedicated servers.

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webss

10 years ago

Heard of a lot of people yesterday that use the limit login attempts say they were getting notifications of lock outs. Also see a bunch complaining that there site have slowed considerable down that are on shared hosts.

Must really be a big problem right now. Best of luck to all.

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10 years ago

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SkyNetHosting 10 years ago

Hello.

We are seeing this attack since April 9th. I would highly recommend to update all wordpress passwords.
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- Juba1 10 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by SkyNetHosting
  
  Hello.
  
  We are seeing this attack since April 9th. I would highly recommend to update all wordpress passwords.
  
  Well then why did you not update your clients? I think it's only right they should know don't you agree.
  
  I'm using Cloudflare for my main sites and it gives the option to block access from countries IP's etc and seems to be doing the job well but only time will tell.
  I also have Better WordPress Security and Limit Login Attempts plugins installed and additionally, the OSE Firewall plugin lol.
  
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  SkyNetHosting 10 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Juba1
  
  Well then why did you not update your clients? I think it's only right they should know don;t you agree.
  
  Part of our clients are already updated and others are updated as we speak.
  
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  Juba1 10 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by SkyNetHosting
  
  Part of our clients are already updated and others are updated as we speak.
  
  Yes, I just received an update and it was only after I complained that nearly all my sites were down and many are going on and off and have been like this for quite a while. But even before this event on any given day at least one or two site were down so maybe this attack has been going on longer at Skynet.
  
  My uptime monitor has been working overtime lately and at one point I wanted to deactivate it because of the amount of downtime.
  
  Hope you guys get your servers sorted out because with or without this latest attack, it was still very poor uptime.
  
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SkyNetHosting

10 years ago

Hello.

You can use How Secure Is My Password? to check your password strength. Another option is to change your admin username to something else as the attack is targeted towards blogs that use admin as their username.

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kpmedia

10 years ago

If you want to block IP, you can do this: http://www.warriorforum.com/programm...highlight=spam
Do it on the WordPress page.
Nuking that PHP to certain IPs will block about 66% of junk traffic. That helps.
It works better than any plugin. (You CANNOT always rely on plugins.)

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butters

10 years ago

Found an interesting article on brute force attacks, while you can not stop them completely, you can limit the effectiveness of them.

Blocking Brute Force Attacks - System Administration Database

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BigGameHunter

10 years ago

Originally Posted by butters

Found an interesting article on brute force attacks, while you can not stop them completely, you can limit the effectiveness of them.

Blocking Brute Force Attacks - System Administration Database

Very Good Article.
Much better than writing a book about what can't be done.

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madeye32

10 years ago

There was a plugin for LOCK THE IP after x number of fails but cant remember the name of it

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Joan Altz

10 years ago

I've blocked China and Russia using CloudFlare. Getting too many of these buttheads trying to log in to my site every day and I've had some intermittent hiccups with exhausted memory because of it. Thanks for the tip. Wasn't sure what to do about it and was just blocking IPs for long periods of time with the Limit Login Attempts plugin.

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livo 10 years ago

Is there any possibility the hackers getting into our hosting account and by passing wp security such as wordfence i seem to be having problems again after a recent attack.

You can read my post here
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RobinInTexas

10 years ago

If you are on a dedicated or VPS you can configure iptables and fail2ban to mitigate the problem.

If you are on shared with wordpress, Wordfence as previously mentioned. Your shared provider should be using the previously mentioned solutions to manage the problem, ask them.

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psvent

10 years ago

https://www.cloudflare.com is also a way to protect against DDOS and it plugs right into W3 Total Cache plugin if you have it installed.

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Mike Hlatky

10 years ago

I am getting these messages on my Wordpress sites.

I updated the htaccess file to only allow my IP to see the admin area.

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Stefan Shields

10 years ago

This must be a huge attack

My host is saying that some hosting companies have completely blocked access to all wordpress admins, to gain access to any wordpress site on my host I must go through an extra login that they have set up.

Hope this is resolved soon

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livo

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Stefan Shields

This must be a huge attack

My host is saying that some hosting companies have completely blocked access to all wordpress admins, to gain access to any wordpress site on my host I must go through an extra login that they have set up.

Hope this is resolved soon

Yep

In fact earlier today i could not even log into any of my sites even my hosting was down for a while.

Looks like my site has been hacked again according to a fellow warrior.

Getting traffic to may Amazon sites but no clicks and all my affiliate tracking ids are ok but still getting over 85% 301 404 redirects

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livo 10 years ago

Any answers to my post 28?
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- Stefan Shields 10 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by livo
  
  Any answers to my post 28?
  
  Impossible to answer without knowing how secure your passwords are, what extra security steps your host takes etc etc.
  
  But this attack is primarily targetted at wordpress installs so it shouldn't affect your hosting login, just the wordpress logins.
  
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  SuperKristen 10 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Stefan Shields
  
  But this attack is primarily targetted at wordpress installs so it shouldn't affect your hosting login, just the wordpress logins.
  
  As you said, just the WordPress logins
  
  I have only "Better WP security" plugin installed with login attempt configuration, do you think this is ok to prevent my site from attacks.
  
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  onSubie 10 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Stefan Shields
  
  But this attack is primarily targetted at wordpress installs so it shouldn't affect your hosting login, just the wordpress logins.
  
  It could depending on what server your host login is on it could be inaccessible too.
  
  The servers that host the sites are being overwhelmed by HTTP requests in a DDOS attack.
  
  The attack is making requests looking for WP installs and insecure sites could be compromised or hacked.
  
  But the access and login problems are due to the servers being overwhlemed with HTTP requests making them slow or unable to respond.
  
  Before the request hits your site, it hits the server that hosts your site and many others, unless you run on a dedicated server, and the servers are being overwhelmed trying to handle all those requests.
  
  If you can't access your WP site, it doesn't necessarily mean it has been hacked or compromised.
  
  It is just on a slow server that is too overwhelmed with other HTTP requests to process your HTTP request for the login URL.
  
  A request for your host login is also an HTTP request that has to be handled by a server first so it knows what host to attach you to.
  
  If the host logins are on servers affected by the DDOS attack, they could also be extremely slow or unavailable.
  
  It is important to update your site security because attacks can come any time, even if they are not this large and coordinated.
  
  If you look at your server logs (AWStats), even if you have security installed, you will see many attempts to access files and directories that normal visitors should not be trying to reach.
  
  Mahlon
  
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Joan Altz 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Hlatky

I am getting these messages on my Wordpress sites.

I updated the htaccess file to only allow my IP to see the admin area.

How is this done? Does anyone have a simple copy/paste example? I'm blocking China and Russia but still getting a crapload of failed login attempts.
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- RobinInTexas 10 years ago
  
  Code:
  
  <FilesMatch "^(admin|dashboard|index|admin-header|admin-footer|edit|edit-tags|options-reading|site-new|user-new|users|sites|tools|post|upload|themes|post-new|widgets|nav-menus).php$"> Order allow,deny Allow from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx deny from all </FilesMatch>
  
  I placed this in wp-admin in order to get around a problem with Wordfence plugin.
  
  As another posted here you could block wp-login.php
  
  Code:
  
  <FilesMatch wp-login.php> Order Allow,Deny Allow from your-ip-address-here Deny from all </FilesMatch>
  
  Your Apache error file may grow considerably as most or the access denied errors will be logged
  
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tq

10 years ago

Note: This is a temporary work-around. We’ve been forced to block wp-admin outright to stabilize our servers to ensure that websites (both non-WordPress and WordPress) continue to load. This results in a NOT ACCEPTABLE message when trying to log into WordPress. The block on WP-Admin will be removed when our administrators are confident that service will not be impacted by the continued attack.

* Add and or Edit the file .htaccess located in your /home/username/public_html/wp-admin

*Add the code below and dont forget to Replace ( your-ip-address-here ) with your physical ip address that you plan to use when working in your admin area.

To get your ip address go to Google.com in the search bar type whats my ip

It should bring up your ip address

Google now shows your ip address when search the term ( whats my ip ). Just Another way Google is keeping you trapped in their space. Maybe?

Add and or Edit the file .htaccess located in your /home/username/public_html/wp-admin

Order deny,allow
Deny from all
allow from your-ip-address-here

<FilesMatch wp-login.php>
Order Allow,Deny
Allow from your-ip-address-here
Deny from all
</FilesMatch>

If you do not have a .htaccess file then open your note pad editor save a untitled document.

Then login to your server with ftp upload the untitled document.
After uploading the untitled document right click on it and rename it to .htaccess next

Open the .htaccess file and put this in it.

_________ begin code ______________

Code:

Order deny,allow
Deny from all
allow from your-ip-address-here

<FilesMatch wp-login.php>
Order Allow,Deny
Allow from your-ip-address-here
Deny from all
</FilesMatch>

________ end code _________________

Basically it denies access to the folder and wp-login.

You should not copy and paste, because it can add additional information that may give access to someone you do not want.

If you must copy and paste?
Copy the text then paste it in a separate note pad doc next save the doc name it what ever you want, then recopy the text in the file you just saved. Now paste as needed. By saving the doc it should strip any extra info you may have copied.

For extra security add this

Code:

<Files .htaccess>
 order allow,deny
 deny from all
</Files>

This denies access to the .htaccess file so it can not be changed online with code in your injected in your script.

That is a little of what I do. Hope it works out for.
Let me know if you have questions?
Good luck.

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onSubie 10 years ago

Originally Posted by tq

That is a little of what I do. Hope it works out for.
Let me know if you have questions?
Good luck.

Most ISPs use DHCP.

Can you enter a range of IP addresses to allow?

What happens when your IP address changes?

Have you run into that problem or do you run on a static IP?

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- kpmedia 10 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by onSubie
  
  Can you enter a range of IP addresses to allow?
  
  Yes.
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glooft

10 years ago

For anyone that uses HostGator, there is a page on their support site that gives instructions on how to block regions or countries from your site.

https://support.hostgator.com/articl...seeing-my-site

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Wayne

10 years ago

My webhost was having these WP brute force attacks and I didn't even notice it.
From their latest blog post:
Recent WordPress Brute-Force Attempts and More

I've used Bluehost, Hostgator and a number of other lower cost webhosts, and Siteground has performed better than any of the others for me.

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CyberAlien

10 years ago

Here's an article about this from HostGator: Global WordPress Brute Force Flood | HostGator Web Hosting Blog | Gator Crossing

I'd suggest simply having strong passwords that brute force won't work on. Also, start using CloudFlare to prevent your website from going offline.

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BackLinkiT

10 years ago

I was looking at Cloudflare but, unless I am much mistaken, in a shared hosting environment, unless everyone on the shared server has it, it's a waste of time?

I can instal it but others may not and attacks on them may take the server down anyway...

Am I right?

Regards to all,

Peter

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RobinInTexas

10 years ago

Originally Posted by BackLinkiT

I was looking at Cloudflare but, unless I am much mistaken, in a shared hosting environment, unless everyone on the shared server has it, it's a waste of time?

I can instal it but others may not and attacks on them may take the server down anyway...

Am I right?

Regards to all,

Peter

You should keep your site secure, just because you should. If the DDOS affects the server you will be affected until the server recovers.

Your hosting company, or anybody on a VPS or dedicated server should look at Fail2Ban

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