[Solved] Best free autoresponder

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Hi Warriors,

I am a newbie and am currently using MailChimp as my autoresponder. I would like to switch to another autoresponder.

I have heard good reviews about Aweber, but its not free. Currently I am looking for something free.

Any suggestions?
#autoresponder #free
  • Profile picture of the author Paleochora
    "Best" & "free" just don't go together in the same sentence if you are looking for an autoresponder service.

    IMO, Get Response is by far head & shoulders above all else out there (and I also include and use Aweber). It is so advanced and a little lower in price.

    But don't look at the cost...that is an investment. It is nothing compared to what you can make from a list.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Santr123 View Post

    I am a newbie and am currently using MailChimp as my autoresponder. I would like to switch to another autoresponder.
    I don't blame you.

    However, I think that Mailchimp, a nightmare and a disaster though it commonly is, is still actually far better than other "free autoresponders".

    Here's the reality: nobody actually "needs" a free autoresponder.

    People only imagine that they do, and that there'll be some long-term benefit to starting that way, and that in some meaningful sense it'll be better than not having one at all.

    Aweber charges $1 for the first month and $19 per month thereafter. GetResponse gives a month free (or is it for $1? No, I think it's free) and then charges $15 per month. If you're not covering $15/$20 in two months, the reality is that you don't have a business at all, and that's not something that using a free autoresponder is somehow, magically, going to correct.

    In my opinion, using a free autoresponder is one of the very most ill-advised and misguided things one can do, in internet marketing.

    Few people are more keen on list-building than I am, but I think for most people it's better to start without an autoresponder, temporarily, than it is to use a free one. And (unlike the situation with regard to free hosting), with autoresponders it IS specifically the fact they're free that causes the potential disasters/risks, in my view. Because (and here's the point): they're actually monetized, whether you like it or not - and if you're not paying with a few dollars, you're paying directly or indirectly in another way which can easily be much worse (however well they manage to conceal that from you for a while).

    The question you have to ask yourself is whether it can possibly be wise to entrust the safe-keeping and security of your business's greatest, most important and least replaceable asset (your list) to a company whose business model is that of being a free autoresponder. I think that it's generally right at the start of their internet marketing careers, when people understandably have the least judgement about such situations, and the least awareness of the facts and realities involved, that such mistakes tend to be made.

    I suspect that people imagine something along the lines of "Well, I can always start with a free autoresponder until I've made some money, and then make the switch to a better one". Usually, one can't easily do that. Moving established lists from one autoresponder company to another is typically hugely difficult, and very commonly results in all one's subscribers needing - at best - to opt in all over again. Many Warriors have commented here that they've lost between two-thirds and three-quarters of their lists, this way!

    Some people just shrug and say "Well, you can always back it up regularly, can't you?". Easily said. What are you going to do with it, after you've "backed it up"? How are you going to import it elsewhere? Who's going to allow you to import it elsewhere, and under what conditions? (People don't always think about these problems. But the experience of Warriors who have actually had to try to do this seems to me to point to its being something of a nightmare and a disaster).

    In the case of Mailchimp, obviously enough, the situation's very clear to anyone willing to make the effort to read their Terms of Service. In the case of other "free autoresponders" (of which there are several), it's usually very much less clear, unfortunately. Typically, those recommending one, in my opinion, are only recent list-builders themselves and may not yet be aware of some of the longer-term pitfalls.

    Some of these companies even attach to every email their customers send out to their lists a clickable link advertising their own free service! It's literally the autoresponder equivalent of having a little website advising people about <whatever> sitting at Yola, with a big clickable link at the bottom of the page advertising "Get your free website here with Yola".

    You'll find it hard to believe, I know, but some even send their own email, with their own promotional links to some kind of "business opportunity", to your customers/subscribers!!

    How professional does that look?!

    Take care. Take the time to do your research and see how other Warriors are saying it looked to their subscribers/customers and why they'll never use a free autoresponder again.

    Some of these companies also don't yet have a very well established business model. Who really knows if they're still going to be there 3 years later? But if they're not, that can be an absolute disaster to your business!

    On previous occasions when I've made that point, someone with a financial interest in a "free autoresponder" business has replied, mentioning that I don't know that Aweber or GetResponse will still be there in 3 years' time, either. I honestly think this a pretty silly argument, because it should be clear to all of us that the odds are stacked in one's favour if one uses Aweber (for example) and against one if one uses a "free autoresponder".

    If necessary, I'd make a sale or two without having a list, and then start with Aweber or GetResponse.

    The set-up costs even for internet marketing businesses which do everything professionally, right from the start, are absolutely minuscule ...

    My perspective only - there are others who disagree, of course. One or two of them are owners of free autoresponder businesses.

    And some others, I think, are pretty inexperienced and have maybe not yet encountered any problems - in contrast to others here whose warning-posts can readily be found with the search function, by those willing to look.
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    • Profile picture of the author cimsols
      I just wanted to thank Alexa for her post. She is without a doubt... one smart girl!
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    • Profile picture of the author Santr123
      <<<If you're not covering $15/$20 in two months, the reality is that you don't have a business at all, and that's not something that using a free autoresponder is somehow, magically, going to correct.>>>

      Agreed. In fact I making pennies from my blog. Several reasons for this
      - Complete newbie (started 5 months ago)
      - Still not enough content on my blog ( need to work on more content generation)
      - Not enough opt-ins
      - Not enough traffic ( 100-120 per day)
      - Not enough income from my blog ( thankfully I have full time well paying job. I am doing IM as a hobby and to learn new stuff)

      So considering my unique situation, I think I am not ready to pay $20 per month for a autoresponder. YEs, if my blog was generating even $50-100 per month, I would have gone with a paid autoresponder.

      So YES, you are right, "I dont have a business at ALL right now". But I am trying to change that and learn a lot of stuff in that process.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by Santr123 View Post

        - Not enough traffic ( 100-120 per day)
        That's real traffic. You have plenty of traffic.

        Your blog isn't converting them to opt-ins, that's the problem. And because of that you have no income from it. So you have traffic but you're not monetizing it.

        "Conversions before traffic".

        I strongly suggest that you don't put effort into attracting more traffic until you're able to opt in a proportion of the traffic.

        Originally Posted by Santr123 View Post

        So YES, you are right, "I dont have a business at ALL right now". But I am trying to change that and learn a lot of stuff in that process.
        Yes, I understand. Well, that's fair enough.

        If you have 100-120 visitors per day, and you take all the advice in this post and this post, you'll soon have people opting in and be monetizable.
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  • Profile picture of the author Youronlinestuff
    use mailchimp to build up your list/test your optin conversion rate then once you have a decent list switch over to a paid service
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  • Profile picture of the author egoldzone
    Use leadsleap script to generate your own autoresponder site for free
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  • Profile picture of the author salegurus
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  • Profile picture of the author David Keith
    FYI, listwire server reputation has been better than awebers for the past year according to virtually everyone who tracks this stuff...cysco, senderbase, senderscore, reputationauthority.org.... seriously, go check it out.

    I have personally tested listwire deliverability and found it to be better than awebers and getresponse on a pretty consistant basis for the last year. I am fairly surprised, but the numbers just dont lie.

    I am certainly not saying that listwire is the best option...they have 2 things that allow them to be free that can be a little annoying. But if you dont have money, they are certainly a very viable service. And no, they do not put ads in the messages that are sent to your subscribers.
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