Quickest, easiest, most profitable?

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Probably not all the same thing, but how do you juggle the pros and cons of going into these two businesses: Kindle ebooks vs. promoting ClickBank offers?I'm looking right now at a WSO that suggests it's rather quick to set up an ebook, to write and promote it. The way he makes it sound, the Kindle route would be fastest .

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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    It is true that you can write, format and upload a Kindle book in a day.

    BUT, it is more important to write great books than it is to write them fast.
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    • Profile picture of the author christiangrey
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      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      It is true that you can write, format and upload a Kindle book in a day.

      BUT, it is more important to write great books than it is to write them fast.
      So true.

      I sometimes see people rush into the Kindle platform and write a book in a day or so and the quality of it really isn't that good. As a result of this, it also affects their future sales and reputation as an author.
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      • Profile picture of the author luna522
        It would be great if you could try both. However, make sure you are picking quality products that you would buy yourself, and make sure the ebook you make available for sale is quality also.

        Don't get in a hurry to make a profit, it's hard, but trust me take your time! The kindle platform is an AMAZING way to set up residual income. Spend some time on a book, or hire someone, get the formatting right, and it won't be long until you start seeing sales.
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        • Don't get in a hurry to make a profit, it's hard, but trust me take your time! The kindle platform is an AMAZING way to set up residual income. Spend some time on a book, or hire someone, get the formatting right, and it won't be long until you start seeing sales.
          I agree! Good advice, thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Greg Ray
    Whatever you do, you still have to market it - and that's the time-consuming element.

    Short term, there are dozens of ways to make a few dollars quickly - long-term, recurring income takes time up front to build.
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    • Profile picture of the author opalfx
      i definitely like the idea of Kindle. I read a few wso products of the weekend and it seems rather lucrative once you write a book. i like the amazon royalties program. i met a lady that was in that program given the book away free for a while and now she sells 8-9 a day at $2.99. that's decent income for a book that is really crappy to me. she doesn't have any social marketing either.
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    • Profile picture of the author Brains Gone Wild
      I agree with Greg Ray:
      Originally Posted by Greg Ray View Post

      Whatever you do, you still have to market it - and that's the time-consuming element.

      Short term, there are dozens of ways to make a few dollars quickly - long-term, recurring income takes time up front to build.
      IDK, aff marketing is fun, too. Why not try both (a split test, of sorts) and see which you prefer?

      Either way, best of luck!
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      • Originally Posted by Brains Gone Wild View Post

        I agree with Greg Ray:


        IDK, aff marketing is fun, too. Why not try both (a split test, of sorts) and see which you prefer?

        Either way, best of luck!
        GOOD IDEA.
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        • Profile picture of the author rickwill71
          the question is are you looking to build short term relationships or long term relationships? are you really wanting to start a buisness? or looking for some quick cash!
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by 01123581321345589144 View Post

    Quickest, easiest, most profitable?
    Originally Posted by 01123581321345589144 View Post

    Probably not all the same thing
    No - almost definitely not all the same thing.

    These two "options" suit people with completely different skill-sets.

    "Most profitable" is particularly hard to predict. Very, very occasional, exceptional people with tremendous business-analytical and marketing skills can make literally millions from Kindle e-books (John Locks springs to mind: not much of a writer, by his own admission, but a great business-analyst and marketer with decades of successful commercial experience behind him before he ever wrote a word of fiction). For many thousands of others, learning how to make a living as a ClickBank affiliate must be a considerably more promising prospect, I'd think.

    One thing's for sure: they're both activities with a significant learning-curve, and the people who do well from either are likely to be those with the judgement to distinguish between reliable and unreliable information by which to choose to be guided.

    Originally Posted by 01123581321345589144 View Post

    I'm looking right now at a WSO that suggests it's rather quick to set up an ebook, to write and promote it. The way he makes it sound, the Kindle route would be fastest
    I'd guess that it probably would be. Whether it's also the "method" that gives any specific individual the better chances of earning any significant money is perhaps another matter. It might be that, as well.

    The answer probably depends partly on the income-level sought, too. My own chances of having been able to produce anything like my current ClickBank income by writing books for Kindle instead - and I say this even as a fairly professional writer - would clearly have been (and still are) absolutely minuscule.
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    • Profile picture of the author iwowwe4you
      People, please stop falling for "write book in a day" ideas. This is the fastest way to selling rubbish.
      If you want to sell an ebook, sell a good one. I been publishing my books offline before and I know that to write good quality stuff takes more that one day.
      Do not look for fast ways to earn easy money. Concentrate on providing a good quality to your buyers and they will pay you buck with loyalty.
      For mr selling a low quality ebook is same as selling scam. Reputation cost more than any thing you can get from selling rubbish.
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      • Originally Posted by iwowwe4you View Post

        People, please stop falling for "write book in a day" ideas. This is the fastest way to selling rubbish.
        If you want to sell an ebook, sell a good one. I been publishing my books offline before and I know that to write good quality stuff takes more that one day.
        Do not look for fast ways to earn easy money. Concentrate on providing a good quality to your buyers and they will pay you buck with loyalty.
        For mr selling a low quality ebook is same as selling scam. Reputation cost more than any thing you can get from selling rubbish.
        It seems rational that this would be the case. Quality takes a bit of work and establishing a reputation. I was looking at this one WSO with some great reviews and a guarantee that looked enticing... it's hard to know because sometimes you get conflicting feedback. Thanks for yours
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      • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
        Originally Posted by iwowwe4you View Post

        People, please stop falling for "write book in a day" ideas. This is the fastest way to selling rubbish.
        If you want to sell an ebook, sell a good one. I been publishing my books offline before and I know that to write good quality stuff takes more that one day.
        Do not look for fast ways to earn easy money. Concentrate on providing a good quality to your buyers and they will pay you buck with loyalty.
        For mr selling a low quality ebook is same as selling scam. Reputation cost more than any thing you can get from selling rubbish.
        Yep. There's some major content deletions and bans coming in Kindle.

        How many times have you seen the idiot horde mass flock to something where they pump out tons and tons of quick rubbish trying to make a few nickels? What always happens?

        .
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    • Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      No - almost definitely not all the same thing.

      These two "options" suit people with completely different skill-sets.

      "Most profitable" is particularly hard to predict. Very, very occasional, exceptional people with tremendous business-analytical and marketing skills can make literally millions from Kindle e-books (John Locks springs to mind: not much of a writer, by his own admission, but a great business-analyst and marketer with decades of successful commercial experience behind him before he ever wrote a word of fiction). For many thousands of others, learning how to make a living as a ClickBank affiliate must be a considerably more promising prospect, I'd think.

      One thing's for sure: they're both activities with a significant learning-curve, and the people who do well from either are likely to be those with the judgement to distinguish between reliable and unreliable information by which to choose to be guided.



      I'd guess that it probably would be. Whether it's also the "method" that gives any specific individual the better chances of earning any significant money is perhaps another matter. It might be that, as well.

      The answer probably depends partly on the income-level sought, too. My own chances of having been able to produce anything like my current ClickBank income by writing books for Kindle instead - and I say this even as a fairly professional writer - would clearly have been (and still are) absolutely minuscule.
      Thanks for the reply and I think you're probably right. Building a legit business that has merit and makes money takes time...
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    • Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      No - almost definitely not all the same thing.

      These two "options" suit people with completely different skill-sets.

      "Most profitable" is particularly hard to predict. Very, very occasional, exceptional people with tremendous business-analytical and marketing skills can make literally millions from Kindle e-books (John Locks springs to mind: not much of a writer, by his own admission, but a great business-analyst and marketer with decades of successful commercial experience behind him before he ever wrote a word of fiction). For many thousands of others, learning how to make a living as a ClickBank affiliate must be a considerably more promising prospect, I'd think.

      One thing's for sure: they're both activities with a significant learning-curve, and the people who do well from either are likely to be those with the judgement to distinguish between reliable and unreliable information by which to choose to be guided.



      I'd guess that it probably would be. Whether it's also the "method" that gives any specific individual the better chances of earning any significant money is perhaps another matter. It might be that, as well.

      The answer probably depends partly on the income-level sought, too. My own chances of having been able to produce anything like my current ClickBank income by writing books for Kindle instead - and I say this even as a fairly professional writer - would clearly have been (and still are) absolutely minuscule.
      Hm... well my target income is a quarter mil so I can pay for 4 years of college.

      Thanks for your thoughts I think you're right on? It's all a bit overwhelming, I guess I have to just dive in and try, either way, to provide quality!
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by 01123581321345589144 View Post

        Hm... well my target income is a quarter mil so I can pay for 4 years of college.
        Well, you need to break it down and make it more manageable/easier to relate to, I always think? $250,000 over 4 years is about $171.00 per day. (It's a bit misleading, because if you're successful at anything, your income grows over a period - it isn't static. But it illustrates how you can break it down.)

        It sounds like quite a bit of money, but if you're promoting just three different ClickBank products priced at $27, $37 and $47, all paying 65% commission, that's well under three sales per day of each. It is achievable, and many people have achieved it, and more.

        I don't doubt it's achievable on Kindle, too ... but I suspect by very small numbers of people. I wouldn't fancy my own chances, at all. This is just my perspective, and it may be biased by the fact that I've made a lot of money from one, but not from the other.
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  • Profile picture of the author nitesh
    I will also go with your WSO. It is much easier and more profitable to write and promote an ebook rather than promoting the Clickbank offers.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Originally Posted by 01123581321345589144 View Post

    Probably not all the same thing, but how do you juggle the pros and cons of going into these two businesses: Kindle ebooks vs. promoting ClickBank offers?I'm looking right now at a WSO that suggests it's rather quick to set up an ebook, to write and promote it. The way he makes it sound, the Kindle route would be fastest .

    Thanks
    You'll never build a real business chasing bullshit promises of "quick, easy and profitable" in a WSO.

    Instead, you'll be back buying another crummy WSO a month later when you've lost hope on the one purchased previously.

    Quit chasing dreams and build something that adds value.

    Think LONG TERM.
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  • Profile picture of the author Malcolm Thomas
    Originally Posted by 01123581321345589144 View Post

    Probably not all the same thing, but how do you juggle the pros and cons of going into these two businesses: Kindle ebooks vs. promoting ClickBank offers?I'm looking right now at a WSO that suggests it's rather quick to set up an ebook, to write and promote it. The way he makes it sound, the Kindle route would be fastest .

    Thanks
    Don't focus on finding out the fastest way to make money, instead focus on building a REAL long term business that will allow you to make money for years to come.
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    • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
      Originally Posted by Malcolm Thomas View Post

      Don't focus on finding out the fastest way to make money, instead focus on building a REAL long term business that will allow you to make money for years to come.
      This.

      Quick money makers tend to fizzle out QUICKLY. Build something sustainable that resembles a real business with multiple revenue sources not some shiny new money making scheme.
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      • Originally Posted by RockingLastsForever View Post

        This.

        Quick money makers tend to fizzle out QUICKLY. Build something sustainable that resembles a real business with multiple revenue sources not some shiny new money making scheme.
        What about this in particular? Is this no good? **Not affiliate link or anything like that.

        Don't focus on finding out the fastest way to make money, instead focus on building a REAL long term business that will allow you to make money for years to come.
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    • Overall I'd recommend Kindle publishing. The content is very easy to create and overall platform is user friendly. Of course, there are pros and cons to each, but in my experience Kindle is better.

      Just my thoughts, and good luck with whatever route you choose.
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      • Profile picture of the author u119840
        I always have a small chuckle to myself when i read or hear headlines like "Fastest way to write a book in a day!" or "Make money writing 10 eBooks in an hour" yadda yadda.... There is no such thing!

        I'm sure you could write a dense eBook or kindle book within an hour - but id also bet my mortgage that it would be mostly junk! There is no such thing!

        I would much rather my students exercised time & patience writing a high quality book rather than mass producing junk in a day. In the end, THAT is what makes you the money. Your customers must WANT to read your book - and come back for more!

        If you cant be bothered with writing or just don't have the knack for it - then outsource to a reputable source..

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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    You'll earn sales quickly on Kindle. Products that have never previously sold in other online mediums will sell quickly on Kindle. Hopefully Kindle doesn't ban you though, but that's another story.

    Selling a product on your site would yield you more profits. You get access to the customer name and can sell to them over and over again.
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    • Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

      You'll earn sales quickly on Kindle. Products that have never previously sold in other online mediums will sell quickly on Kindle. Hopefully Kindle doesn't ban you though, but that's another story.

      Selling a product on your site would yield you more profits. You get access to the customer name and can sell to them over and over again.
      What gets you banned?
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

        You'll earn sales quickly on Kindle. Products that have never previously sold in other online mediums will sell quickly on Kindle. Hopefully Kindle doesn't ban you though, but that's another story.

        Selling a product on your site would yield you more profits. You get access to the customer name and can sell to them over and over again.
        Originally Posted by 01123581321345589144 View Post

        What gets you banned?

        1. Submitting PLR content.
        2. Submitting content that is stolen or copied in an infringing manner.
        3. Buying reviews (if you get caught and the person handling the complaint is in the mood).
        4. Having more than one Kindle account.
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        • Originally Posted by tpw View Post

          1. Submitting PLR content.
          2. Submitting content that is stolen or copied in an infringing manner.
          3. Buying reviews (if you get caught and the person handling the complaint is in the mood).
          4. Having more than one Kindle account.
          Thank you Good to know. I was wondering about having more than one account because if you sold like one type and then they see you also sell something totally different as you explore different options... that's a bit weird.
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          • Profile picture of the author tpw
            Originally Posted by 01123581321345589144 View Post

            Thank you Good to know. I was wondering about having more than one account because if you sold like one type and then they see you also sell something totally different as you explore different options... that's a bit weird.

            You can have multiple pen names on the same account.
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          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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            Originally Posted by 01123581321345589144 View Post

            I was wondering about having more than one account
            Nooooo, don't do that!

            It's exactly the same as with Ezine Articles: you have one account only and you use your real name for it, but their own staff are the only people who ever see your real name (if that's what you want). And (as Bill says above) you can have multiple different pen-names within one author account.
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            • Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

              Nooooo, don't do that!

              It's exactly the same as with Ezine Articles: you have one account only and you use your real name for it, but their own staff are the only people who ever see your real name (if that's what you want). And (as Bill says above) you can have multiple different pen-names within one author account.
              No I understand I just meant I had wondered about it for the reasons I mentioned. Thanks guys
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  • Profile picture of the author happyday
    In this modern age, if faster goes with better, all the better for me;but if I have to chose, then the best does it . . . not even better!
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  • Profile picture of the author Stripe
    I would pick what I enjoy and understand the best, then branch out from there!
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  • Profile picture of the author Monja
    You can ask yourself - how much can you write in a day? Even if you are a good writer it might be no more than 10 pages. If you are quick you could get a decent eBook done in 14 days maybe, formatting and proofreading inclusive.
    But the hard part is, as always, promoting that product...
    Promoting Clickbank offers you do a short cut: you skip product creation and just promote an offer from someone else. If that person has a great product, that might be a good deal.
    In the end it all comes down to one point:

    how much traffic can you drive to the offer?

    I guess I'd buy a WSO with a step-by-step instruction on how to drive traffic to my site rather than writing an eBook because that is, in the end, all that counts.
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  • Profile picture of the author ClaireVWalker
    The only thing about kindle is it doesn't really help you build a list. You'd be far better writing and selling your own clickbank product, plus you'd automatically have a list of paying customers.
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      Originally Posted by ClaireVWalker View Post

      You'd be far better writing and selling your own clickbank product
      Try telling this guythis guy (and increasing numbers of others like him) that.
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  • Profile picture of the author eugenedm
    They are both good.
    Whatever you decide make sure that:
    1. You love doing it.
    2. You are faster at one than the other
    3. You are willing to stick around until it makes cash.(you can make money SLOW, there's no easy button as most people want to hear)
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  • Profile picture of the author fastcooler
    You need time to create from scratch some good content, maybe you can hire someone to do this job for you, but it is worth because if you will find a good niche you will have a very good visibility on Amazon.
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  • Profile picture of the author Khondoker
    "Quickest, easiest and most profitable"- that does not exist in reality but in Im'ers dream!
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