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How to give value to your list when your new?

by Seemore25101
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I am working on a strategy right now for my first 29 days of emails for my list. It will be marketing mostly IM.

How can I give good value to my readers if I'm still new in IM? Would it just be as simple as saying this is my first list and telling them my experiences with it? I want to be seen as an authority though.

Would you trust someone who told you they have only been in IM for 8 months?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Pescetti
    You can only target people who are in the total beginning stages of IM. You have no basis of authority, whatsoever, but you can invite people to learn from your journey. Position yourself as someone who will expose the predictable pitfalls in IM to help newbies avoid completely preventable heartache.

    And as you stumble upon lucrative opportunities, you can share your experience and generate leads, sales, word-of-mouth, boost your reputation, brand and eventually get to the point where you can present yourself as an authority.

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    • Profile picture of the author mrgoe
      Originally Posted by Mark Pescetti View Post

      You can only target people who are in the total beginning stages of IM. You have no basis of authority, whatsoever, but you can invite people to learn from your journey. Position yourself as someone who will expose the predictable pitfalls in IM to help newbies avoid completely preventable heartache.

      And as you stumble upon lucrative opportunities, you can share your experience and generate leads, sales, word-of-mouth, boost your reputation, brand and eventually get to the point where you can present yourself as an authority.

      Mark
      Works well, I`ve given my journey experience to my new list, and it worked wonders. Try it.
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  • Profile picture of the author nadal619
    what you can do is share with them blog posts , or you tube videos that can teach them what they need to start.

    Also send them inspirational videos , anything you think it will add to them .
    even if you are still new , leverage what you have and provide them what you learned

    Good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author glennshep
    If it's evident that you know more than your target audience then yes, you can be seen as an authority. Share with them what you know. You could use blog posts, video tutorials, mindmaps, articles, e-mail courses, etc to teach what you know about the basics of what to do to set certain things up and also what to avoid. Share your mistakes, connect with them on a personal level and been open and honest. Perhaps you could invite them to follow along with you as you learn and grow, thus creating a spirit of community and camaraderie.

    I believe that you'll be just as likely to gain trust and respect through being personable, honest and giving value as you would be if you'd been at it for many years. I know of some established marketers who I wouldn't trust as far as I could throw them and then others who are quite new who I absolutely trust, respect and learn from because they always ready to help, give value and are honest
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  • Profile picture of the author eugenedm
    Give them some "working technique" or a some "working idea" that they can implement and say "wow, it's working"... Do you know what I mean? Another words build some trust.
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  • Profile picture of the author Toby Couchman
    Why not review methods/courses as you try them. It will be good for your own self confidence to build a diary of your journey in IM.

    Cheers
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    • Profile picture of the author balu
      Good question. It has helped me as I am also new to list building.

      Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author kayfrank
    Share with them what you learn. Share great you tubes videos you find, great articles, great blog posts, etc. The only thing I would say is this. Write about these great things on your own blog and send your subscribers to your blog to find it. Then you kind of 'own' the information you are sharing with them and it increases your website traffic too.
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  • Profile picture of the author karlmay1980
    The secret is leverage, use other peoples authority to send value to your list.

    You can do this in several ways, one being sharing content from experts and outlining why it is of value, explain their successes etc.

    Another would be to get access to an authoritative figure say through an interview.

    These then give you an air of authority through association.

    Documenting and sharing your journey is also a valuable experience for your readers too, and as they see your success grow they hold you up as the expert and will naturally want to know more about how you have done it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eric R
    If your subscribers can see that you are sincere and are providing with information that they did not have before and is useful to them, they will stay with you, whether you have been on line 8 months or 8 minutes.
    All the best

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    • Profile picture of the author AndyCole1971
      Always the hardest part of starting out. You battle between 'faking it' and pretending you're an authority or coming across as a total newbie, who nobody will listen to.

      One of my most popular posts on my site was about documenting my experiences with solo ads. It drew attention from experienced sellers/buyers to complete first timers who hadn't even bought a solo ad.

      Just be yourself, share your journey and whatever tips you come across. Before long you will become an authority in your own right.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jack Bastide
        You know the old saying ...

        Every 3rd Grader is a Hero to 2nd Graders

        The fact that you even have a list is a lot more than lots of people

        also like somebody else said do Interview and / or point them to
        informative youtube videos

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    • Profile picture of the author World Marketing
      Originally Posted by Eric R View Post

      If your subscribers can see that you are sincere and are providing with information that they did not have before and is useful to them, they will stay with you, whether you have been on line 8 months or 8 minutes.
      All the best

      Eric R
      Well said...As long as you are providing your list extreme value that will help them grow, they will be very responsive and look at your information like gold....
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  • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
    How can I give good value to my readers if I'm still new in IM? Would it just be as simple as saying this is my first list and telling them my experiences with it? I want to be seen as an authority though.

    Would you trust someone who told you they have only been in IM for 8 months?
    You probably can't give them much value if you don't know much yourself. If you're not an authority then how can you be seen as one?

    People want to learn from someone who has experience not someones who is as knew as they are.

    Try a different niche maybe?
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrew Servis
    Originally Posted by Seemore25101 View Post

    I am working on a strategy right now for my first 29 days of emails for my list. It will be marketing mostly IM.

    How can I give good value to my readers if I'm still new in IM? Would it just be as simple as saying this is my first list and telling them my experiences with it? I want to be seen as an authority though.

    Would you trust someone who told you they have only been in IM for 8 months?
    Couple of Qs if you don't mind:

    How are you collecting these leads, is it through a free sign up, paid product etc?

    How many emails do you plan to send in that 29 days?

    And on the only 8 months experience I wouldn't worry I actually have found a lot of more newbie type marketers and find it really interesting following them over the "big" guys. If someone is at ground zero and sees you just a bit ahead then they are more likely to follow you and listen to you than the guy standing at the top of the building. It's mainly to do with wanting to learn from someone who has just trodden the path you are about to go down, I mean the big IMs got big maybe 4 or 5+ years ago and their path of learning was probably much different back then due to the every changing internet landscape.

    Andrew
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    • Profile picture of the author Seemore25101
      Originally Posted by andys280176 View Post

      Couple of Qs if you don't mind:

      How are you collecting these leads, is it through a free sign up, paid product etc?

      How many emails do you plan to send in that 29 days?

      And on the only 8 months experience I wouldn't worry I actually have found a lot of more newbie type marketers and find it really interesting following them over the "big" guys. If someone is at ground zero and sees you just a bit ahead then they are more likely to follow you and listen to you than the guy standing at the top of the building. It's mainly to do with wanting to learn from someone who has just trodden the path you are about to go down, I mean the big IMs got big maybe 4 or 5+ years ago and their path of learning was probably much different back then due to the every changing internet landscape.

      Andrew
      Right now, I'm doing a test run on collecting leads with a guide I found. Just to see how many leads I can get with before i start my real list. I might incorporate my test list into my real one but I'm just getting a little experience building my first list so that I can have a list building product i've used and can be an affiliate for once I start my real list.


      It's just an opt in list, nothing free offered right now.

      I plan on send out between 15-19 emails in the 29 days. Just figuring out how the entire transition would work between each email. I might spend a couple weeks to a month putting together my list so the first month can for sure have value.
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  • Profile picture of the author roblawrence
    How can you write about Internet Marketing and give people advice when you've never been in the field actually doing it? "Internet marketing" is NOT a business, it's a WAY of doing business. Is the telephone a business?

    It's like saying "I make money online teaching other people to make money online who teach other people to make money online...etc."

    It's like the ghost of Don Lapre making money with his "tiny classified ads that show you how to make money by placing tiny classified ads and teach others how to place tiny classified ads"


    Your best bet is to partner with others and leverage off their knowledge until you get up to their level and can dispense your own.
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  • Profile picture of the author jenmidas
    You may first.

    1. Segmenting - identify their main interest in IM then put them in a group.

    2. Positioning - present yourself as the authority-celebrity in your chosen field eg.
    copywriting, traffic and whatnot.
    - Guidance : tips/forecast of any trending niche

    3. Surveying - ask what course they want to learn from your.
    Survey monkey/polldaddy works like a charm in this matter.

    4 Cashing - Present your offer.
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  • Profile picture of the author AsknWhy
    Hi Seemore,

    I don't know if you meant 8 months as an example or if you're really been IMing for 8 months, but having a list and getting started on your plan, you've already accomplished alot!

    Building value is a relative thing, and like many people in this thread have already mentioned, best way to build value is to understand who your customer is.

    Knowing your customer is a great first step, but there are other ways as well.

    Provide them with tips that help them get to wherever they need to go. So long as you can "CONVEY" or "COMMUNICATE" a benefit, you've provided a value. How much value is up to how much that communicated benefit means to them!

    It's all about communicating.

    Best of Luck!
    Originally Posted by Seemore25101 View Post

    I am working on a strategy right now for my first 29 days of emails for my list. It will be marketing mostly IM.

    How can I give good value to my readers if I'm still new in IM? Would it just be as simple as saying this is my first list and telling them my experiences with it? I want to be seen as an authority though.

    Would you trust someone who told you they have only been in IM for 8 months?
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    • Profile picture of the author Seemore25101
      Originally Posted by AsknWhy View Post

      Hi Seemore,

      I don't know if you meant 8 months as an example or if you're really been IMing for 8 months, but having a list and getting started on your plan, you've already accomplished alot!

      Building value is a relative thing, and like many people in this thread have already mentioned, best way to build value is to understand who your customer is.

      Knowing your customer is a great first step, but there are other ways as well.

      Provide them with tips that help them get to wherever they need to go. So long as you can "CONVEY" or "COMMUNICATE" a benefit, you've provided a value. How much value is up to how much that communicated benefit means to them!

      It's all about communicating.

      Best of Luck!

      Oh yes, I meant 8 months literally. I don't want to wait years before taking action. I've already gotten ideas from this thread alone on how to put together my month of emails.

      Thank you to everyone who's replied, I hope to get more feedback if there is any and this thread helps others in my position!
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      • Profile picture of the author IMPAT
        Thank you for sharing your thoughts with a newbie like myself. I too appreciate all the many replies. I have learned a lot of valuable information by all. Thanks everyone! :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Jenna619
    You can survey them using survey monkee or something similar and then you are able to know what they want and then you just give it to them. I would try and sell something like once a week...Make sure it is something that you would buy your self and is good quality too.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Fitzpatrick
    You must give value to your list if you want to develop any kind of authority. If you have a blog then then blog often again with valuable content and share it to your list saying how you though this would help etc...

    Also sharing the latest news in your industry, current trends and also one of the biggest is share your success.

    Don't do it to brag but to show people how what ever technique you are using is working. Then you will slowly begin to develop the authority and the trust.
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    • Profile picture of the author Seemore25101
      Originally Posted by Steve Fitzpatrick View Post

      You must give value to your list if you want to develop any kind of authority. If you have a blog then then blog often again with valuable content and share it to your list saying how you though this would help etc...

      Also sharing the latest news in your industry, current trends and also one of the biggest is share your success.

      Don't do it to brag but to show people how what ever technique you are using is working. Then you will slowly begin to develop the authority and the trust.
      I don't have a blog. Should I have one? I wanted to focus on just list building right now and using different techniques to build my list and providing what I'm doing to my list to help them take action also.
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      • Profile picture of the author AndyCole1971
        Originally Posted by Seemore25101 View Post

        I don't have a blog. Should I have one? I wanted to focus on just list building right now and using different techniques to build my list and providing what I'm doing to my list to help them take action also.
        I know this question wasn't for me but I'll give you my advice. DEFINITELY get a blog. A blog and a list go hand in hand......
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        • Profile picture of the author Seemore25101
          Originally Posted by AndyCole1971 View Post

          I know this question wasn't for me but I'll give you my advice. DEFINITELY get a blog. A blog and a list go hand in hand......

          Alright.. I will have to change my strategy a little I think.

          One question I have is, is when I swap ads, how does that work? Do I send it out as broadcast through Aweber?

          Just asking because my "test" list is at about 200 right now and I might keep using it to test different things such as swapping ads for more subs.
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          • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
            Originally Posted by AndyCole1971 View Post

            I know this question wasn't for me but I'll give you my advice. DEFINITELY get a blog. A blog and a list go hand in hand......
            This.

            Build your list around something (blog or a product for example) not just a list for lists sake. That way you'll get people opting in because they liked your blog content or bought your product and they'll be much more responsive than some random free seekers who opted into your squeeze page from a solo ad.

            Originally Posted by Seemore25101 View Post

            Alright.. I will have to change my strategy a little I think.

            One question I have is, is when I swap ads, how does that work? Do I send it out as broadcast through Aweber?

            Just asking because my "test" list is at about 200 right now and I might keep using it to test different things such as swapping ads for more subs.
            Forget ad swaps. They are a good way to burn out your list and definitely not recommended when you've just started. Why let someone else market to your subs?
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            • Profile picture of the author AndyCole1971
              Originally Posted by RockingLastsForever View Post

              This.

              Build your list around something (blog or a product for example) not just a list for lists sake. That way you'll get people opting in because they liked your blog content or bought your product and they'll be much more responsive than some random free seekers who opted into your squeeze page from a solo ad.



              Forget ad swaps. They are a good way to burn out your list and definitely not recommended when you've just started. Why let someone else market to your subs?
              I would love it if that strategy worked for everyone but I tried that for about a year and got nowhere. My list is built up of people interested in SFM. I didn't buy any solo ads or use any type of paid traffic as such, I just focused on updating my blog with great content and offered some decent freebies. The leads dripped in very slowly. I'm not saying they're not responsive but at that rate I'd be able to make a full time living from this by the age of 70!

              SFM's follow up emails and sales funnel is pretty good so I may be getting the odd freebie seeker by using Safe Swaps but I've generated loads of sales by doing it this way. If they're not interested by what SFM has to offer, they usually unsubscribe after a couple of days, which is finw.

              I totally agree with what you're saying about ad swaps though. I have no interest in allowing someone to market to my list. Also, I get several people contacting me because they want to buy a solo ad from me. I've never done it and doubt I ever will. I don't want to dilute the list by offering them all types of products. I tried to mix it up once by offering my SFM list Empower and they got really confused. :confused:
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              • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
                Originally Posted by AndyCole1971 View Post

                I would love it if that strategy worked for everyone but I tried that for about a year and got nowhere. My list is built up of people interested in SFM. I didn't buy any solo ads or use any type of paid traffic as such, I just focused on updating my blog with great content and offered some decent freebies. The leads dripped in very slowly. I'm not saying they're not responsive but at that rate I'd be able to make a full time living from this by the age of 70!

                SFM's follow up emails and sales funnel is pretty good so I may be getting the odd freebie seeker by using Safe Swaps but I've generated loads of sales by doing it this way. If they're not interested by what SFM has to offer, they usually unsubscribe after a couple of days, which is finw.

                I totally agree with what you're saying about ad swaps though. I have no interest in allowing someone to market to my list. Also, I get several people contacting me because they want to buy a solo ad from me. I've never done it and doubt I ever will. I don't want to dilute the list by offering them all types of products. I tried to mix it up once by offering my SFM list Empower and they got really confused. :confused:
                What strategy are you saying didn't work?

                I've no idea what SFM stands for. :confused:
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              Originally Posted by RockingLastsForever View Post

              This.

              Build your list around something (blog or a product for example) not just a list for lists sake. That way you'll get people opting in because they liked your blog content or bought your product and they'll be much more responsive than some random free seekers who opted into your squeeze page from a solo ad.
              SFM is my big ticket product (Six Figure Mentors). I was referring to this comment above. I tried to build my list around SFM by just having great content on my blog etc and I got some leads but they dripped through slowly. I needed a way to drive traffic to my offer because the best content in the world is no good if nobody knows where it is. My website was just sitting there stagnating, generating little or no traffic. Solo ads was my remedy, until my website gained a bit of momentum.
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              • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
                Originally Posted by AndyCole1971 View Post

                SFM is my big ticket product (Six Figure Mentors). I was referring to this comment above. I tried to build my list around SFM by just having great content on my blog etc and I got some leads but they dripped through slowly. I needed a way to drive traffic to my offer because the best content in the world is no good if nobody knows where it is. My website was just sitting there stagnating, generating little or no traffic. Solo ads was my remedy, until my website gained a bit of momentum.
                It's not about 'just having great content' though that's the starting point. You have to get your epic content in front of your target audience so they consume and love it. It's not a difficult thing to do and when they love your content and opt in to your list because they want more rather than just opting in to get a freebie they don't really care about you see high open rates, high click rates, loyal subscribers and lots of sales.

                Just adding content to your site obviously isn't going to do much.

                I stand by the fact that solo ads are mostly garbage and 99% of people can't convert them into responsive subscribers or buyers.
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                • Profile picture of the author AndyCole1971
                  Originally Posted by RockingLastsForever View Post

                  It's not about 'just having great content' though that's the starting point. You have to get your epic content in front of your target audience so they consume and love it. It's not a difficult thing to do and when they love your content and opt in to your list because they want more rather than just opting in to get a freebie they don't really care about you see high open rates, high click rates, loyal subscribers and lots of sales.

                  Just adding content to your site obviously isn't going to do much.

                  I stand by the fact that solo ads are mostly garbage and 99% of people can't convert them into responsive subscribers or buyers.
                  I totally agree with what you're saying. I believe I have great content but the competition in my niche is so fierce it's tough to get traffic without resorting to techniques like solo ads. The solo ads I'm getting with Safe Swaps are highly targeted and responsive but I also agree with you that a lot of them are complete garbage. It's taken me two years to figure out how to get the best out of solo ads and if you don't know what you're doing you literally are throwing money away.

                  May I ask for your Number 1 traffic technique? A friend of mine is getting great results with Facebook PPC but I was warned off it by many because they said it's too expensive. My friend, however, says it's highly targeted.....he's on his way to his first £10k month.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
                    Originally Posted by AndyCole1971 View Post

                    I totally agree with what you're saying. I believe I have great content but the competition in my niche is so fierce it's tough to get traffic without resorting to techniques like solo ads. The solo ads I'm getting with Safe Swaps are highly targeted and responsive but I also agree with you that a lot of them are complete garbage. It's taken me two years to figure out how to get the best out of solo ads and if you don't know what you're doing you literally are throwing money away.

                    May I ask for your Number 1 traffic technique? A friend of mine is getting great results with Facebook PPC but I was warned off it by many because they said it's too expensive. My friend, however, says it's highly targeted.....he's on his way to his first £10k month.
                    If you have great content but still can't get people to read it then you either don't have great content or you aren't getting it in front of your target audience.

                    You mention the competition in your niche is fierce, then why get into that niche if others have already got it sewn up? I try not to get involved in niches unless I either offer something wildly different from my competitors or I can do things much better than they can. Instead of being a small fish in a big pond I like to be the shark.

                    Different sites of mines have different '#1 sources of traffic' but email marketing, video, FB ads, forum posting, guest posting work well. FB ads can be super targeted and I can get cheap clicks for most of my niches.
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                    • Profile picture of the author AndyCole1971
                      Originally Posted by RockingLastsForever View Post

                      If you have great content but still can't get people to read it then you either don't have great content or you aren't getting it in front of your target audience.

                      You mention the competition in your niche is fierce, then why get into that niche if others have already got it sewn up? I try not to get involved in niches unless I either offer something wildly different from my competitors or I can do things much better than they can. Instead of being a small fish in a big pond I like to be the shark.

                      Different sites of mines have different '#1 sources of traffic' but email marketing, video, FB ads, forum posting, guest posting work well. FB ads can be super targeted and I can get cheap clicks for most of my niches.
                      I have ok traffic. Maybe I'm being greedy and want too much but I do believe it gets in front of the right people MOST of the time. I'm just expecting better results, I guess.

                      Yes, in hindsight I maybe should've tried a different niche but I was shifted onto this one by my 'mentor'. By the time I realised the competition was tough, it was difficult to try to get excited about anything else. I tried and failed. I like the niche, and while there's loads of competition, it's a niche that will never grow stale.

                      I'm aware a lot of my words seem contradictory. The reason being, I'm somebody who has had some success but not as much as I would like. Therefore, I'm always half and half as to whether I agree with how I conduct my business! It's a right laugh!!! :rolleyes:

                      Thanks for your tips. FB ads is definitely my next route. I hear they're way more targeted than most.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brendon Zahrndt
    With 8 months in the bag, you don't have much to offer.

    But you have something.

    If I were you I would continue investing in your education and documenting your successes and failures to those who have 7 months or less experience.

    Do not fake it till you make it. It gives the industry - and yourself - a bad name.

    Find a few mentors to help speed up your learning curve and you may have something useful to offer those who have been doing this longer than you have.

    Be yourself and have fun.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
    I don't know if you meant 8 months as an example or if you're really been IMing for 8 months, but having a list and getting started on your plan, you've already accomplished a lot!
    It takes 30 minutes to create a list so it's hardly a huge accomplishment. Waiting 8 months into your journey is a fatal mistake assuming you've been working hard on your site / project for those 8 months.
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    • Profile picture of the author AsknWhy
      Hey Rocking,

      I guess it can take 30 minutes to make a list and it's not an accomplishment.

      In reality, nothing is an accomplishment. What I am reinforcing is not list building but the ability of the OP to take Action.

      So whatever you define is an accomplishment, its really up to you. I define what the OP has done is a reasonable step forward.

      Your other comment on waiting 8 months to start your journey is hardly a fatal mistake either. People have their own priorities in life, whether they be a job, payments, family, rent, and type of overhead, it's hardly justified to call waiting patiently a fatal mistake... rather a well calculated decision.

      To Each Their Own Rockon.



      Originally Posted by RockingLastsForever View Post

      It takes 30 minutes to create a list so it's hardly a huge accomplishment. Waiting 8 months into your journey is a fatal mistake assuming you've been working hard on your site / project for those 8 months.
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    • Profile picture of the author Seemore25101
      Originally Posted by RockingLastsForever View Post

      It takes 30 minutes to create a list so it's hardly a huge accomplishment. Waiting 8 months into your journey is a fatal mistake assuming you've been working hard on your site / project for those 8 months.
      Yes, I've been working. Its not an accomplishment, I'm asking for help on how giving value as a list builder. It's no accomplishment until I've given value and made money from it.

      I'm not waiting like others I've been reading on here who started just building their list now three years into their career. (Not that that's bad, everyone is entitled to start when they like or need). I only learned about list building recently as I hadn't joined WF until a couple months ago. If I had known how important it is, I would've started earlier.
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  • Profile picture of the author Curtis2011
    Originally Posted by Seemore25101 View Post

    I am working on a strategy right now for my first 29 days of emails for my list. It will be marketing mostly IM.

    How can I give good value to my readers if I'm still new in IM? Would it just be as simple as saying this is my first list and telling them my experiences with it? I want to be seen as an authority though.

    Would you trust someone who told you they have only been in IM for 8 months?
    Just what the internet needs: Another IM newbie teaching other people how to become the success that he himself has never been.
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    • Profile picture of the author Seemore25101
      Originally Posted by Curtis2011 View Post

      Just what the internet needs: Another IM newbie teaching other people how to become the success that he himself has never been.
      Thanks dude. I'm gonna be showing my own trials and errors in my list so I think it can be useful to others.

      I'm definitely not going to come out and say "Hey! I'm an expert!" no.. I'm gonna let people know exactly what they're getting into when they opt in to my list.
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    • Profile picture of the author AndyCole1971
      Originally Posted by Curtis2011 View Post

      Just what the internet needs: Another IM newbie teaching other people how to become the success that he himself has never been.
      Originally Posted by Seemore25101 View Post

      Thanks dude. I'm gonna be showing my own trials and errors in my list so I think it can be useful to others.

      I'm definitely not going to come out and say "Hey! I'm an expert!" no.. I'm gonna let people know exactly what they're getting into when they opt in to my list.
      I'm afraid he's being sarcastic there, buddy. Get yourself onto Safe Swaps and grow your list. Everything is explained how to swap ads, buy solos etc.
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      • Profile picture of the author Seemore25101
        Originally Posted by AndyCole1971 View Post

        I'm afraid he's being sarcastic there, buddy. Get yourself onto Safe Swaps and grow your list. Everything is explained how to swap ads, buy solos etc.
        Yeah.. I know's he's being sarcastic.. lol. I should've put a ... after the thanks to show my sarcasm.

        But thanks, I've been looking into Safe Swaps.
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        • Profile picture of the author AndyCole1971
          Originally Posted by Seemore25101 View Post

          Yeah.. I know's he's being sarcastic.. lol. I should've put a ... after the thanks to show my sarcasm.

          But thanks, I've been looking into Safe Swaps.
          Ha ha, I thought you may have got it but wasn't sure! I'm glad you're checking out Safe Swaps.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mreese601@gmail.com
    If you been in the game for 8 months then you know more than someone who just getting started. You have to work on your believe system if you going to attract people too you. You are a guru! Anything that a person want's to know about internet marketing can be found online. Via google. Most people don't want too do the work it takes to look up the info. Read other people emails that you get model from other people.
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  • Profile picture of the author TravisO
    Originally Posted by Seemore25101 View Post

    Would you trust someone who told you they have only been in IM for 8 months?
    Hi, I can only answer this question. In trusting someone about this, please evaluate the person properly. You can ask his/her accomplishments on the IM world.


    Hmmm... If applicable, you can ask them about their portfolios or works done on IM. See for yourself. be guided properly.
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  • Profile picture of the author tomerep
    Offering value to your subscribers will depend on what your subscribers are looking for and based on what you are able to offer. Some offer downloadable contents like eBook or whitepaper and others offer a free membership. Also, you must deliver what you promised!
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  • Profile picture of the author clever7
    If you are not an expert, don't try to be an expert.

    You should promote products created by internet marketers who know how to help others succeed. Tell your subscribers why these marketers helped you, what you could achieve by following their methods, etc.

    Be a person who makes real product reviews and shows the truth, what means that you have to buy the products you will promote.

    Be serious and responsible, and your list will trust your advice.

    Keep studying internet marketing, and someday you will become a true expert.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Why tell your list that anyway? Dive straight into your internet marketing tips, and dont worry about your experience.

    If this plagues you... go into a niche that you're highly knowledgable about.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenny T
    Just Have a sequence of emails ready for your subscribers. Give them good and valuable contents that can benefit them genuinely instead of trying to look like an affiliate marketer. Make them think you are an expert or you know what you are doing so that they start taking an interest in you. Just don't send them affiliate links every other day, this way they will think you are just spamming them and they will block you.

    Also Another strategy to use is tell them you are gonna be giving them a 5 series or 7 series of emails where you will give them a new tip in every emails. After the email series sequence is done you would have built good trust and you can send in your affiliate product. Rinse and repeat
    Cheers
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    • Profile picture of the author metaarticles
      Originally Posted by Kenny T View Post

      Just Have a sequence of emails ready for your subscribers. Give them good and valuable contents that can benefit them genuinely instead of trying to look like an affiliate marketer. Make them think you are an expert or you know what you are doing so that they start taking an interest in you. Just don't send them affiliate links every other day, this way they will think you are just spamming them and they will block you.

      Also Another strategy to use is tell them you are gonna be giving them a 5 series or 7 series of emails where you will give them a new tip in every emails. After the email series sequence is done you would have built good trust and you can send in your affiliate product. Rinse and repeat
      Cheers
      That was a good tip. Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author mjones70
    Make contact with them, find out what they want from you. Ask them what their number 1 problem is with IM at the moment, create a survey monkey survey and ask them to take part so you can only send them the best possible information.

    Sending them crappy PLR articles or endless freebies isn't the solution. You need to find out what their problems are and solve them while building a relationship and trust with them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Raydal
    When I first started out in IM I shared as I learned. So
    when I discovered a new idea or principle then I wrote
    about it right away and then shared that with my list.

    It's fun to look back on those days now because a lot
    of today's "gurus" were my subscribers back then. I was
    just a little ahead of them because I started full-time and
    many were doing this part time.

    So don't be shy about sharing what you know and what
    you discovered from other experts. You don't have to
    be THE authority to share what the authority says.

    -Ray Edwards
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  • Profile picture of the author HorstStreit
    Me too, also to learn.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kieran Conway
    Congratulations on taking the first steps towards your goals(list building, e-mail sequence) I have always admired those who aren't afraid to show vulnerability through perseverance, be sincere and passionate about the steps you make. My philosophy is regardless of how long you have been playing the game, shower your customers with value and nurture and you'll find your feet!
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  • Profile picture of the author roblawrence
    Certainly keep us updated on your progress. None of our comments are meant to be harsh, but there are so many new people who get into Internet Marketing and think they're an expert after reading a book or two and when their advice doesn't work with their clients, it makes the whole industry look bad. You sound like you know what your limits are and are proceeding slowly but surely! Good luck!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author desultory
    "Give them some "working technique" or a some "working idea" that they can implement and say "wow, it's working"... Do you know what I mean? Another words build some trust. "The idea is very good.
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  • Profile picture of the author zoobie
    Why IM? Go to other niches what you know most. IM wont' give you any money unless you are very good at what you're doing.
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  • Profile picture of the author CynthiaNataline
    Just tell your story and people can relate with you, instead of positioning yourself as a guru who talks like a promotion robot, who's difficult to communicate with.

    Focus yourself on helping people. There must be some things you know that would help others. If you focus yourself on helping people and your help is really a solution to their problems, you'll gain trust and credibility.

    This way, you can brand yourself little by little automatically by helping people, which isn't necessarily connected to how long you've been in IM.

    These a few people who have already had trust in you will easily buy from you. So, sales will come themselves if you prioritize giving value or helping people.

    Having these several people is great! Don't think about getting big number all at once, but think about getting small number then multiply.

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