How much should I pay outsourced writers?

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I had a question since I'm just starting to outsource my writing projects to other writers.

How much should I pay writers? Would it be a good idea to pay them 50% of what I'm charging people (so $7.50 if I charge $15 per article)? This should give me enough room to profit, but I wanted to see what other people thought on this issue.

PS: Please no vague responses like "a good writer is worth his weight in gold" or "you get what you pay for." I'm a writer and I already know all that.
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    It should depend on the TYPE of text, the turnaround time, and, of course, the quality.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Originally Posted by KimboJim View Post

    I'm a writer and I already know all that.
    Well if you're a writer, you should already know that you shouldn't be paying anyone $7.50.

    In my experience, anything decent costs $25-50 an article. Infact I'd be happy to pay $100 per article if they were good enough.

    As for what you're paying your own staff, well that's entirely up to you. But $7.50 per article seems extremely low.

    How long, detailed are the articles? Are they formatted?
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    • Profile picture of the author goindeep
      All depends bro, you can get some crap sprayed onto a screen for $2 per 300 words or you can get something that looks like Stephen King and Shakespeare had a baby and it wrote your stuff, which would obviously cost a lot more.
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  • Profile picture of the author ldiaz117
    $10 for a good 300-400 word is what I pay mine.
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  • Profile picture of the author Vanilla Gorilla
    I just started a "warriors for hire" ad to freelance my writing skills. I've found it insanely frustrating how many quality writers get low balled. I started on freelance sites, but people expect an unrealistic amount of work for incredibly cheap. A seasoned writer can do wonders with the use of verbiage etc.

    That being said, if you're bringing in consistent work, there will be hundreds of writers that will be willing to work for $7.50, just don't expect a level of quality that will keep clients returning time and time again.
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    • Profile picture of the author writeaway
      Originally Posted by Vanilla Gorilla View Post

      I just started a "warriors for hire" ad to freelance my writing skills. I've found it insanely frustrating how many quality writers get low balled. I started on freelance sites, but people expect an unrealistic amount of work for incredibly cheap. A seasoned writer can do wonders with the use of verbiage etc.

      That being said, if you're bringing in consistent work, there will be hundreds of writers that will be willing to work for $7.50, just don't expect a level of quality that will keep clients returning time and time again.
      7.50 for 500 words is actually not a bad rate for certain types of writing. Also, don't assume writers write primarily for the money. I write because it is my passion. That's why I can be quite generous with pricing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Singleton
    About £1 ($1.50) a word will get you someone who can write well.
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  • Profile picture of the author TimothyTorrents
    I think the most difficult part is finding a good writer who will make your articles worth their price. If I was going to outsource my writing work I would give the writer around 70% of the total rate - pay well and they will be happy to continue working with you.
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    • Profile picture of the author CandyxLand
      You didn't mention how many words that they are writing for this price, but if it's the standard 300-500 word range, this is probably too low to get anything good. I would pay them $10 and be happy with the $5. Better to take a slim profit and get many orders than take a large profit but have no repeat customers.
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    I would pay them $10 and be happy with the $5. Better to take a slim profit and get many orders than take a large profit but have no repeat customers.
    Although the fees are too low, I think this is a better idea. You'll get more customers if you can supply more good quality content so it's better to earn less per article if you're not writing it yourself because you can spend more time finding work.
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  • Profile picture of the author SimonJBell
    50% of your charging price is about right. Like other people here have said, the amount you charge should reflect the quality of the articles you're producing.

    A $14 article should be pretty basic compared to a $50 article
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  • Profile picture of the author NddS777
    Personally, I prefer to pay my writers a bit better -- normally 75% of what I charge my clients. This encourages them to deliver better work and go the extra mile. Also, it keeps them on board, which saves me money indirectly. This is an important consideration when you're selling on a large scale and don't have time for hiccups.
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    • Profile picture of the author Shirish1234
      Originally Posted by NddS777 View Post

      Personally, I prefer to pay my writers a bit better -- normally 75% of what I charge my clients. This encourages them to deliver better work and go the extra mile. Also, it keeps them on board, which saves me money indirectly. This is an important consideration when you're selling on a large scale and don't have time for hiccups.
      Hey, I agree with what NddS777 said. It's part of the Business ethics which ultimately in long run would be profitable for any Business.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jensha
    Wow.
    I've been following this thread and I must say I'm really surprised with your answers.
    I've tried writing articles before for $5 for 500 words for a little while. Business is good but I don't want writing articles all day long even if I can. Then I saw some sellers selling 500 articles for $2.5 so I outsourced some of the work there for the articles that I need for my website.
    Then here you're saying that you're willing to pay some writers $10 for a good 300 word article and $100 for a very good article (no exact number of words mentioned).

    I'm really curious and I hope you can enlighten me on this, how much do you think we should offer for a good 500 word article? I'm already paying $2.5 for that but if you know any seller that can deliver me better articles I just want to know how much should I offer if I want to get that kind of writer.
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    • Profile picture of the author NddS777
      Originally Posted by Jensha View Post

      Wow.
      I've been following this thread and I must say I'm really surprised with your answers.
      I've tried writing articles before for $5 for 500 words for a little while. Business is good but I don't want writing articles all day long even if I can. Then I saw some sellers selling 500 articles for $2.5 so I outsourced some of the work there for the articles that I need for my website.
      Then here you're saying that you're willing to pay some writers $10 for a good 300 word article and $100 for a very good article (no exact number of words mentioned).

      I'm really curious and I hope you can enlighten me on this, how much do you think we should offer for a good 500 word article? I'm already paying $2.5 for that but if you know any seller that can deliver me better articles I just want to know how much should I offer if I want to get that kind of writer.
      A skilled writer can charge hundreds of dollars for a 500-worder, and they get it, too -- I know of a few. But that's because what they write generally produces results. On the other hand, I have writers who write for much less, and their material also engages, informs, entertains, ranks and sells. In internet marketing terms, $15-$20 normally buys you a decent 500-word article, though, in my experience.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
      Originally Posted by Jensha View Post

      I'm really curious and I hope you can enlighten me on this, how much do you think we should offer for a good 500 word article? I'm already paying $2.5 for that but if you know any seller that can deliver me better articles I just want to know how much should I offer if I want to get that kind of writer.
      The problem is, every man and his dog is "writing cheap articles".

      You either want to sell Datsuns or BMW's. The choice is yours. If you want to sell articles for $100 each, then they'd better be worth it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cobaki
    You should pay your writers better. Words go out fast on the Internet and a lot of good writers will be interested in working for you. You should be strict especially with quality and delivery time. If they fail to comply and still give you low quality articles, find other writers. Always be strict with quality and you will have a lot of returning customers.
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  • Profile picture of the author YasirYar
    You should try iwriter for these kind of work, well you can find very good writers there who'll write very good articles for the price range of $7-$10. Mind you, there are even native English writers in there.
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  • Profile picture of the author davidfrankk
    A 50& profit for you seems like a good idea. But you might have to up the rate from $15 to at least $25. provided the content is worthy though.
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  • Profile picture of the author TravisO
    Yes. $7.50 is a fixed price per article. $15 seems big but expect higher quality.
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  • Profile picture of the author seotools
    Currently i am paying $1 per 400 words article. You can find good and cheap writers on freelancing websites
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  • Profile picture of the author stephanreek
    It depends I have found some writers who were willing to get paid just $5 for an article which was really goos quality
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    • Profile picture of the author writeaway
      Originally Posted by stephanreek View Post

      It depends I have found some writers who were willing to get paid just $5 for an article which was really goos quality
      Good point. There are lots of writers who would work for .002 to .005 per word. You just have to be clear as to the TYPE of article you want. Many people try to set up a STRAW MAN argument where they assume that people who write for .002 to .005 per word are the same people who write for WebMd or theeconomist.com Think SLIDING SCALE and UTILITY, people. The truth is there is MORE THAN ENOUGH space for good writers in the global writing services economy.
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  • Profile picture of the author A S M
    As many mentioned so far .. it depends on many factors but mainly how long the article will be . I'm assuming since you are an experienced writer that 7.50 is for about 300-400 words approximately ? i guess that can be pretty good but there is writers that will do it for cheaper but the price is good for the amount of words i mentioned.
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  • Profile picture of the author DTGeorge
    Originally Posted by KimboJim View Post

    I had a question since I'm just starting to outsource my writing projects to other writers.

    How much should I pay writers? Would it be a good idea to pay them 50% of what I'm charging people (so $7.50 if I charge $15 per article)? This should give me enough room to profit, but I wanted to see what other people thought on this issue.

    PS: Please no vague responses like "a good writer is worth his weight in gold" or "you get what you pay for." I'm a writer and I already know all that.
    Your question is just like asking how much you should sell a car for.

    It all depends on what TYPE of car you're selling, or who you're selling it TO, and what they will be using it FOR.


    You wouldn't charge the same price for a BMW Z3 that you would for a Toyota Corolla would you?


    Personally, I would say to pay a decent, livable wage. $7.50 for good content, personally, wouldn't cut it for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rose Anderson
    It also depends on how long you want to keep good writers working for you. They might be willing to work for $7.50 per article at first but they'll quickly move on to greener pastures. This means you'll constantly be looking for new writers. If you want to hang on to your best writers you should consider paying them a higher rate.

    Even those of us who write because "we love to write" still have to feed our children.

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  • First, let's assume that the work you write yourself gives your clients the results they need for their money.

    Second, let's say you and your clients along with their target markets are based in California, and you intend to outsource to writers in developing countries like the Philippines. This means you must calculate the purchasing power (not the forex value) of the USD in that particular developing country. As an example:

    • Here in Manila, someone with a family of 3 and earns $1500/month will have buying power similar to a full time nurse in California with a family of 3 and earns $5000/month.

    Third, answer the questions below:

    • How much work can you produce per 8-hour day?
    • How much are the businesses in your area (startups to 2 to 3-year old ones) paying their inhouse full time writers who work 20 8-hour work days per month?

    By answering the first question above, you're setting a daily quota baseline. This is the quality and volume of work you could expect from a qualified writer, assuming you have effective screening and testing processes in place.

    by answering the second question above while considering the buying power of the USD in the particular country where you intend to outsource to, you're setting a baseline price for the work you can expect from a qualified full time writer.

    By having these details, you could perhaps more accurately do your calculations and project attainable revenues for your business, pinpoint competitive per-word prices to charge your clients, determine reasonable per-word rates to pay your offshore writers, and set significant net income margins to keep for yourself.

    A couple of things I'd like to add:

    • You won't be paying employer shares for your offshore writer's government and private insurance and benefits. You should factor this in when doing your calculations; and

    • Overall content quality and daily work output volume can often be standardized when you hire writers with significant knowledge from specialized university studies and real world expertise in the particular industries where your clients operate in.
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  • Profile picture of the author KimboJim
    It seems that a few people understood my question while others really got hooked on the $7.50 thing. That was just an example. I asked what percentage do you give your writers, not the exact amount.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mkeating3
    Love this thread!

    Maybe I missed it, but no one touched on the price to use article writing services like textbroker.com or iwriter.com. I haven't personally used iwriter yet, but I can give my insight on textbroker.

    The articles range in price, but below is a basic breakdown of their costs:
    $.012 /word
    $.016 /word
    $.022 /word
    $.067 /word

    Now there are other factors such as length of article and various SEO options that will make the price go up.

    Most of the articles I've had written are around 400 words, use SEO options like keywords, etc. and have a one day turn around. They cost about $8-$9 an article.

    They aren't the best written articles, but as most people have pointed out, you get what you pay for. I don't think it is a terrible option, but they require some scrubbing from you to make sure they are good enough to present to a client.

    I hope this helps..
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  • Profile picture of the author stafford
    Originally Posted by KimboJim View Post

    I had a question since I'm just starting to outsource my writing projects to other writers.

    How much should I pay writers? Would it be a good idea to pay them 50% of what I'm charging people (so $7.50 if I charge $15 per article)? This should give me enough room to profit, but I wanted to see what other people thought on this issue.

    PS: Please no vague responses like "a good writer is worth his weight in gold" or "you get what you pay for." I'm a writer and I already know all that.
    Decide what price YOU would be willing to write the article for yourself and sweeten the deal.

    Never pay less than you're willing to work for yourself.
    Give writers bonuses so they want to continue writing for you.

    Just my 2 cents.
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    • Profile picture of the author HanifQ
      $7.50 is not likely to get you a well-researched article...

      In my experience, if I provide the exact research urls/pages, AND an outline for the content (what I want in the intro, body, etc)...

      I can get pretty decent quality articles written for $5-$7 that actually add value.

      The key is all in the research, you get what you pay for mainly in the research department, not in grammar or spelling.
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