Starting My Buyers List With Aweber

by dickyrader 13 replies
I am starting to get a pretty consistent steam of sales coming in from my products. I am wanting to separate my buyers from the rest of my list so I can start building my buyers list.

If I am using Aweber, will they need to re-optin when the Awber system automatically switches them to my second list? Will they be forced to confirm their subscription again or will they be placed on the new list without any action?

I feel like since they have already confirmed that they shouldn't have to confirm again. Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author IanGreenwood
    First, congrats on getting your results. Good news :-)

    The easiest way to do this is to make them "sign in" as part of your product delivery process. Instead of taking them to a download page after they pay, take them to a page with a single opt in.

    So it goes like this.

    1. They pay up and your payment processor takes them to a web page with an Aweber form (turn off double opt in for this so you get single opt in).

    2. They put in their email address and their email, name, address, telephone, really whatever you want to collect from them. You can say anything you like on this page. I use something like "Sign in here to collect your [whatever product]".

    3. When they complete the form and click the submit button you need to then set the return page on Aweber to go to the download page (or membership site login, or wherever they go to collect their product.)

    This effectively means that every buyer will be added to your buyers list because the only people who will see this page are those who have bought from you. You only need to use single opt in on this page for the same reason. No one can get to this page unless your payment processor has taken their money first. This effectively proves they are your customer.

    Having said all that... sounds like you need to activate the "email parser" in your account. This means you can get your payment processor ( shopping cart, etc) to automatically add a purchaser to your Aweber list.

    I use Paypal and I know they have an email parser in their system.

    Take a look at
    https://help.aweber.com/entries/2176...y-AWeber-List-

    ...or this maybe helpful to you.
    https://help.aweber.com/entries/2170...st-to-Another-

    This deals with setting up automation rules to move an entry from one list to another (and it has a video!)

    Hope this help you out.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    I use Download Guard, which protects my products, as well as integrating directly with Aweber. So I'm simply using the email parser as mentioned above when a purchase is made.

    The transition is seamless and happens silently in the backend.

    There is a catch however. When using the email parser and adding a person to a list like this (due to it happening without their knowledge) means, they must activate it by clicking on the confirmation link in the followup email.

    If they don't this is a problem because I've lost an important subscriber - a buyer.

    To solve this problem, I have a video on my download page that provides instructions.

    I simply thank the user for purchase, then ask them to confirm the email they're about to receive. I tell them that its useful to do this in order to ...

    a) Stay in touch
    b) Be notified of updates to the product they've just bought
    c) Be able to contact me for help

    Of course its beneficial for me, because I can

    a) Upsell them
    b) Get feedback and testimonials
    c) Survey my buyers.

    What's important is that you ....

    a) Keep your buyers separate (which you're doing)
    b) Keep buyer and non buyers on your main list

    When I send out broadcasts, I just send them to the main list, as this covers everyone. If I want to get in touch with buyers, then I hit that specific buyers list.

    Here's how I frame my overall list structure.

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    • Profile picture of the author dickyrader
      Thank you both for the great responses.

      I guess there is no way to keep from loosing a few buyers in the process. Since they have to click the confirm link In the email, their will still be some that don't make it on the list. Is this correct?
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      • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
        Originally Posted by dickyrader View Post

        Thank you both for the great responses.

        I guess there is no way to keep from loosing a few buyers in the process. Since they have to click the confirm link In the email, their will still be some that don't make it on the list. Is this correct?
        Not always.

        It depends on your setup.

        If you implement what Ian suggested above, and force the user to enter their email into a "pre product access/download" page, then you can simply use single optin.

        This method is one that, although it might be viewed as a bit sneaky, I used it successfully for years before implementing the setup I use now.

        Of course, with what I have now, there will always be some that would rather just buy and leave, without wanting to hear from you again. It's not ideal, but you can't force someone to optin or confirm. You can only encourage them.
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    • Profile picture of the author Networking_now
      Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

      There is a catch however. When using the email parser and adding a person to a list like this (due to it happening without their knowledge) means, they must activate it by clicking on the confirmation link in the followup email.

      If they don't this is a problem because I've lost an important subscriber - a buyer.
      Is this catch only with download guard?

      i) and this process that they have to click the link to activate in the follow up email, then is this because you have 'double' optin on?

      ii) so you can change it to single, and remove this hurdle


      iii) and you said, when using an email parser, then does this double activation hurdle also occur with the clickbank/aweber parser feature ?
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      • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
        Originally Posted by Networking_now View Post

        Is this catch only with download guard?
        I can only speak on behalf of what I know.

        Originally Posted by Networking_now View Post

        i) and this process that they have to click the link to activate in the follow up email, then is this because you have 'double' optin on?
        It makes no difference whether you set it to single or double optin. When you subscribe someone via a parser (with Aweber at least) they force confirmation. This makes sense because the user hasn't willingly "opted in".

        Originally Posted by Networking_now View Post

        ii) so you can change it to single, and remove this hurdle
        Read above.

        Originally Posted by Networking_now View Post

        iii) and you said, when using an email parser, then does this double activation hurdle also occur with the clickbank/aweber parser feature ?
        Well, yes. I'm using CB, with Aweber, and DLGuard.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Here you go.

    This is how I used to do it.

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...fter-sale.html

    In particular, have a look at posts #8, #11

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  • Profile picture of the author dickyrader
    I am in te process of building the list right now. If I turn off confirmed opt-in will they still have to confirm to be automatically switched to this new list? Thank you.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
      Originally Posted by dickyrader View Post

      I am in te process of building the list right now. If I turn off confirmed opt-in will they still have to confirm to be automatically switched to this new list? Thank you.
      If you're talking about automation rules, then no.

      If you're asking the same question as before, then I've just answered it.

      Simple answer - TEST.
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      • Profile picture of the author edhuu
        Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

        If you're talking about automation rules, then no.

        If you're asking the same question as before, then I've just answered it.

        Simple answer - TEST.
        Just use automation rule and put the optin box on your thank you page. they don't need to confirm again.
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        • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
          Originally Posted by edhuu View Post

          Just use automation rule and put the optin box on your thank you page. they don't need to confirm again.
          The parser is a better way to do it. That's what it's there for.
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  • Profile picture of the author dickyrader
    Thanks for all your help John. Got it all set up tonight!
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Good stuff.

    Be sure to test it thoroughly
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