Newbie looking for some advice

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I hope I have learned most of the things that are true and accurate regarding Internet Marketing and right now I feel like I am suffering a tremendous amount of information overload.

So if possible, can someone please verify everything I wrote below to see if I have the proper picture of the whole making money online through affiliate marketing concepts?

The following is basically everything I've learned in the past couple of months of reading and research online from various sources. This is everything I've compiled and summarized from my notes, memory, etc.

(Please, let me know if I have anything really inaccurate, or if you know that I missed anything, etc. Thanks.)

In order for someone to actually make any "real" money they Need to pick a Niche or market first and then must have their a website built around their selected niche(s) and market.

This part is quite tricky for newbies like myself. Because I'm uncertain about which niches are ideal when you are new and just starting. From what I've read, many people that give advice to newbies on this generally say just go with what you are passionate about or already have some decent knowledge about, but I am uncertain about what the demand, competition or profitability of my "passions" might be.

I even heard about no website methods pitched, but I'm unsure about them. They are probably scams or unreliable and inconsistent methods, but I could be wrong and misunderstood them, so correct me on this if you know for certain there are alternative ways to make money with the internet without a website.

Back to what I said regarding 'passions'- I personally like video games, card games and board games, and somewhat familiar with computers but I don't really know what the competition, demand and profitability is exactly for them.

So after the Niche is selected and a website had been built and gone live then they either place ads, reviews, articles, recommendations, etc., of various products and/or services for their chosen niche/market.

Those are all the Content and Monetization steps am I correct? You have to monetize your website somehow or how could you get paid? Typically it's with a Paypal account or some other online billing and payment processor, r sometimes direct deposit wire transfer to your bank account(s) or even an actual physical check.

And typically the most common methods of Website Monetization from what I've read and learned are Google Adsense, ClickBank, Amazon Associates, and various CPA Offers from various CPA Networks, (let me know if there are any other reliable monetization methods)

If you don't promote other people or companies' services and/or product then you would have to create or invent product(s) or services of your own.

Articles and anything that requires a lot of writing part HAD ALWAYS been a concern for me.

I never really see myself as a blogger or writer, although I suppose if this is too difficult for me then maybe I should just outsourced it somehow. I find it quite time consuming and I'd probably grow bored of it quickly.

I wanted something more simple, easy, and flexible. I still remember how much I don't like writing various research papers and essays back in the days of high school and college. OK, I'll admit I'm lazy on this part and you can argue that I just did a whole bunch of writing here in this thread, what would be my excuse?

As for creating a website I know that you could also outsource and get some pro web designer to build it for you rather than try to build one entirely from scratch.

The latter being much more difficult if you are trying to make a quality and professional website with little to no prior web design experience. Although I've read about various templates and scripts, etc.,... I suppose those options could help speed up the progress and provide some simple shortcuts. I do have some experience with HTML although I've not use them for a very long time since the days high school and college.

Am I getting this correct so far in regards to Affiliate Marketing methods of making an income from the Internet?

I also heard of and seen other methods to make money from the internet although they aren't very consistent or effective methods. Examples such as paid-to-click sites or sites with paid surveys and various other paid offers, and I'm sure there are others.

Then there is also an investment requirement in website traffic. Although I am aware that there are free methods available through social media such as facebook, twitter, youtube, and so on. Instagram and Pinterest are sources of traffic in this category that I have learned about fairly recently.

The traffic generation part is a real nightmare because that is where it determines whether you either make it or break it in earning money online.

It's like a double edge sword - if things are going great you are good to go, if not, you would be struggling and besides you would have already spent lots of money on the hosting, website traffic, maybe even a online marketing program, etc., and still not see any return on your (potentially huge) investment.

And I know many newbie internet marketers do fail and quit because they aren't able to generate adequate traffic or any traffic at all to their website, and various other factors that went wrong when they first started such as not doing adequate amounts of research and diving right in.

I've learned that the website traffic you get for your website Must be targeted quality traffic. Now this part is also very tricky for newbies to get and will require lots of time and investment into proper Search Engine Optimization techniques.

Although I'm certain this part can also be outsourced but like always outsourcing is done so at your own risk so you would need to be certain you can really trust who will help you on this matter.

Consistent quality targeted traffic to the person's website is the key to generating sales thus making money for the website owner because almost all of the money earned from these types of Internet/Online based businesses are in actuality Sales Commissions.

It also very difficult because depending upon how much competition from other internet marketers that are after the same much needed traffic as you do.

Although I heard there are some really good low competition niches, etc. I don't really know at the moment which ones are ideal for newbies. Any recommendations?

I've also already learned that building a list of names and e-mails of visitors (called leads) that are already interested in the Niche you are marketing your website about is vital because they are potential buyers and you can safely e-mail them over and over again with an email auto-responder promoting future products and services for your Niche.

And the bottom line is this:

What I really want to know what can a Newbie shortcut?

I am willing to set a budget of up to somewhere around $2000-$3000.


Originally I looked into the entirely free methods such as using a free sub-domain and free web hosting services, and free autoresponder but I realized that they are only good for short term and I NEED a long term solution so any entirely free method would not be something I should go for.

I even thought about Done For You Websites after reading about them.One example is this one: Bring The Fresh 2013 Done-For-You Website but then I wasn't so sure, but it's still an option considered on the table.

I also even considered buying established websites from Flippa and similar sites, but I think the risk is even bigger, so I rather want to know what all of my options are and try to narrow down the best ones.

I have kept in mind that there are no magic one push button or magic bullet to making money online, there are no guarantees of income from running any business online or offline, so no need to remind me of it.

Hard work, persistency, and proper understanding of how systems work is very much needed to succeed in pretty much anything.

What about Local options for outsourcing (building a professional quality website, SEO, etc.,)?

Since Outsourcing is a method I am already aware of because if you find something too hard to deal with on your own then just get freakin' help already! Right?

Obviously it will cost money and require and investment but so will going back to any college or university, unless you know for certain the costs of tuition are largely covered by grants and scholarships that you do not need to pay anything back. And I mentioned before I would prefer not having to deal with research papers and writing essays again, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonJames
    One of the most stable ways to grow a business online is to drive people to an email squeeze page, then email them offers for affiliate products and your own offers. Pick a niche with a lot of different affiliate offers. If you are just getting started, trying to build an authority website that ranks high in search engines is a long road, plus with search engines changing the rules all of the time and cutting back on the traffic they are sending out to individual sites.
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    • Originally Posted by JasonJames View Post

      One of the most stable ways to grow a business online is to drive people to an email squeeze page, then email them offers for affiliate products and your own offers. Pick a niche with a lot of different affiliate offers. If you are just getting started, trying to build an authority website that ranks high in search engines is a long road, plus with search engines changing the rules all of the time and cutting back on the traffic they are sending out to individual sites.
      I think I get what you are talking about.

      It's like one of those pages where they typically offer you a free report (typically in an Adobe PDF format) or free Videos which I've seen and known to be fairly common free offers or maybe it could be some other free offer like, well I don't know exactly but something you can download.

      Maybe they might offer a nice picture or photo or a MP3, or a free program or software BUT Only after they had filled out their name and email and subscribe to their list.

      What are the easiest ways to make squeeze pages? Do those require additional investments or are there good free options?

      I'm not too familiar with authority websites. Do you have any good examples I can sample or look into?

      I've not learned anything about the difference between individual sites and authority sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonJames
    An authority site is just a popular site that a lot of people visit. To learn how to make squeeze pages go on youtube and search for "how to make a squeeze page" and watch some of the videos. You could give away a good free plr report, there are many warrior special offers that come with plr. Safe swaps is the biggest community for list building. Look at what other people are doing and try it.
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  • Profile picture of the author RogueOne
    I personally like video games, card games and board games
    Here's a good place to start. There is massive money in games of all kinds. If you can teach people how to be better players, review new games, etc. There are many CPA offers in the gaming niche with new ones being added all the time.

    As for creating a website I know that you could also outsource and get some pro web designer to build it for you rather than try to build one entirely from scratch.
    With the software available today, building a website is really not that hard. Video tutorials abound.

    Although I heard there are some really good low competition niches, etc. I don't really know at the moment which ones are ideal for newbies. Any recommendations?
    That's the 64 million dollar question for everyone.

    I am willing to set a budget of up to somewhere around $2000-$3000.
    Keep it in your pocket until you have a website built and a freebie to offer. Then start testing different advertising platforms, slowly. Track everything and don't spend a lot until you see results.

    It takes time, and shortcuts generally end up with you losing all the money you thought you were going to save.

    Doing research and testing is a huge part of the business. Don't give up and don't be afraid to ask questions.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Originally Posted by WhereDoIEvenStart View Post

    I hope I have learned most of the things that are true and accurate regarding Internet Marketing
    True and accurate? lol

    Originally Posted by WhereDoIEvenStart View Post

    and right now I feel like I am suffering a tremendous amount of information overload.
    This is common for beginners. Most of it however, will be "misinformation".

    Originally Posted by WhereDoIEvenStart View Post

    So if possible, can someone please verify everything I wrote below to see if I have the proper picture of the whole making money online through affiliate marketing concepts?
    I'll try. Be mindful though, that sometimes you get lousy answers because you ask lousy questions.

    Originally Posted by WhereDoIEvenStart View Post

    The following is basically everything I've learned in the past couple of months of reading and research online from various sources.
    "Various sources" - this sounds dangerous.

    Always qualify your sources. There's no point asking your local butcher how to install electrical wiring in your house.

    Originally Posted by WhereDoIEvenStart View Post

    (Please, let me know if I have anything really inaccurate, or if you know that I missed anything, etc. Thanks.)
    Oh, don't worry. I will.

    Originally Posted by WhereDoIEvenStart View Post

    In order for someone to actually make any "real" money they Need to pick a Niche or market first and then must have their a website built around their selected niche(s) and market.
    You almost made it. You're half way there.

    Here, I've fixed it for you.

    In order for someone to actually make any "real" money they Need to pick a Niche or market first that they're either kowledgable in, have experience in, are passionate about, and then help people by offering saleable products and or services (or both).

    Of course this is the most simplified version of online business you could possibly ask for. It really doesn't mean anything, unless you do something with it.

    Oh and by the way - a website makes up about 10% of what's required in order to make any of this "stuff" work.

    Originally Posted by WhereDoIEvenStart View Post

    This part is quite tricky for newbies like myself. Because I'm uncertain about which niches are ideal when you are new and just starting.
    Watch this.

    How to Identify or Find a Profitable Niche Market Using Common Sense

    Originally Posted by WhereDoIEvenStart View Post

    From what I've read, many people that give advice to newbies on this generally say just go with what you are passionate about or already have some decent knowledge about, but I am uncertain about what the demand, competition or profitability of my "passions" might be.
    Well find out.

    Listen, it's completely and utterly pointless getting involved in something that you don't give a fats rats about. If you don't like brussel sprouts, would you sit down every night and eat them for dinner? Of course not, you eat something you enjoy.

    Online business is no different.

    Remember, to be successful you gotta think long term. And that means having to create a shite load of content over years and years. You seriously want to write, speak, talk, about subjects that you don't care for?

    Originally Posted by WhereDoIEvenStart View Post

    I even heard about no website methods pitched, but I'm unsure about them. They are probably scams or unreliable and inconsistent methods, but I could be wrong and misunderstood them, so correct me on this if you know for certain there are alternative ways to make money with the internet without a website.
    Complete waste of time.

    Originally Posted by WhereDoIEvenStart View Post

    Back to what I said regarding 'passions'- I personally like video games, card games and board games, and somewhat familiar with computers but I don't really know what the competition, demand and profitability is exactly for them.
    The computer game industry is absolutely huge. It's a multi billion dollar industry I'm sure. Use some common sense.

    Originally Posted by WhereDoIEvenStart View Post

    So after the Niche is selected and a website had been built and gone live then they either place ads, reviews, articles, recommendations, etc., of various products and/or services for their chosen niche/market.
    1. Market (a niche you know something about and you're passionate about)
    2. Offer (shit you intend on selling - products, services etc)
    3. Traffic (no point pushing traffic unless you got the previous two sorted)
    4. Optimize (ramp up your conversions, tracking etc)

    Originally Posted by WhereDoIEvenStart View Post

    Those are all the Content and Monetization steps am I correct? You have to monetize your website somehow or how could you get paid? Typically it's with a Paypal account or some other online billing and payment processor, r sometimes direct deposit wire transfer to your bank account(s) or even an actual physical check.
    *yawn...

    Originally Posted by WhereDoIEvenStart View Post

    And typically the most common methods of Website Monetization from what I've read and learned are Google Adsense, ClickBank, Amazon Associates, and various CPA Offers from various CPA Networks, (let me know if there are any other reliable monetization methods)
    I'm not going to give you all the answers on a silver platter. Do some work yourself.

    Originally Posted by WhereDoIEvenStart View Post

    If you don't promote other people or companies' services and/or product then you would have to create or invent product(s) or services of your own.
    Well yes, of course.

    Originally Posted by WhereDoIEvenStart View Post

    Articles and anything that requires a lot of writing part HAD ALWAYS been a concern for me.
    Here we go. You want to be successful online but don't want to work for it?

    Originally Posted by WhereDoIEvenStart View Post

    I never really see myself as a blogger or writer, although I suppose if this is too difficult for me then maybe I should just outsourced it somehow. I find it quite time consuming and I'd probably grow bored of it quickly.
    I'm shaking my head here. Seriously...

    Originally Posted by WhereDoIEvenStart View Post

    I wanted something more simple, easy, and flexible.
    F me.

    I was interested in offering you some valuable advice, but this is too much.

    "easy", "simple", "flexible"

    If you want that, get a job at Dominoes Pizza.

    Good luck.
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    • Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post


      Here we go. You want to be successful online but don't want to work for it?



      I'm shaking my head here. Seriously...



      F me.

      I was interested in offering you some valuable advice, but this is too much.

      "easy", "simple", "flexible"

      If you want that, get a job at Dominoes Pizza.

      Good luck.
      I meant easier or flexible than writing article after article after article.

      Everything else is still going to be challenging and require more research and understanding before I can implement any of them.

      I did apply for a CSR job at Dominoes before but got nothing even when I followed up with an email.
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  • Profile picture of the author erange
    Holy schmolly. lol I didn't get through have of that post before I thought to myself...you need to put some work into this if you're serious. I recommend Andrew Helmes...but there are a lot of others out there as well. Pick someone and follow them...absorb and learn...

    Good luck,
    Eileen
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    • Originally Posted by erange View Post

      Holy schmolly. lol I didn't get through have of that post before I thought to myself...you need to put some work into this if you're serious. I recommend Andrew Helmes...but there are a lot of others out there as well. Pick someone and follow them...absorb and learn...

      Good luck,
      Eileen
      Is this who you are talking about: About Me - AndrewHelmes.Com

      I did say I suffered from Information Overload, but I think Mr. Romaine had gave me some really useful advice and so did everyone else.
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  • Profile picture of the author erange
    Information overload is VERY easy to obtain. :-) But here's some more advice - don't chase every shiny new penny...

    The Andrew Helmes I'm talking about runs "Affiliate Blog Bacon" (Affiliate Blog Bacon - ...helping you bring home the online bacon!) He's been very approachable/reachable for me....something I think is very difficult to find in this industry.

    Best of luck,
    Eileen
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    • Originally Posted by erange View Post

      Information overload is VERY easy to obtain. :-) But here's some more advice - don't chase every shiny new penny...

      The Andrew Helmes I'm talking about runs "Affiliate Blog Bacon" (Affiliate Blog Bacon - ...helping you bring home the online bacon!) He's been very approachable/reachable for me....something I think is very difficult to find in this industry.

      Best of luck,
      Eileen
      I see. So it is very easy to communicate with him and he responds to all of your inquiries?

      Does something like this count as a shiny new penny?

      I've read something about it here on the WF: http://www.warriorforum.com/internet...you-sites.html

      Seemed like things didn't go as well or as promising as the person and some other people who had invested in it thought it would, but it later their problems had been resolved apparently.
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  • Profile picture of the author erange
    LOL...Yes!!! That's a shiny new penny...and a horribly expensive one! lol
    Start out reading through the Warrior Forum itself...it's FREE!
    Eileen
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    • They actually cut the price for that offer by 30%, must have been the poor feedback from earlier this month.

      The 5th reply on that thread was what reminded me that I could always find alternate sources to outsource to. So I don't know, maybe just maybe I can find something better for a lower price, well locally I meant, although I doubt it.

      Although RogueOne had already mention that by using shortcuts generally would mean I could end up with losing all the money I thought I would save. Done For You Websites and Established Websites (like those sold on Flippa) are two of the shortcuts I was looking at but I guess even they have inheritant risks.
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