I've got 6 months to replace my 9-5 salary. Advice needed.

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So, we got word today, the budget is in for next year and there are going to be cutbacks. Mostly people.

I haven't gotten an official notice, but my boss has told me I'm probably on the chopping block. It's fair though, last hired - first fired. Besides, there are people with wives and kids above me.

Anyway, I've got 6 months before I'm unemployed and I'll have about 4 months of living expenses saved up to hold me after that. Beyond that point though, and I'm back sleeping on my parents couch for a while.

I'd really like to get started on something that can help me build up my online income that it could take over what my job pays (about $3,000 a month) and that way I could keep my apartment and not have to take a few steps back.

If someone could recommend a good WSO that could help me get to that point, I'd appreciate it. I don't expect a miracle overnight, but something with a proven track record would be what I'm looking for. Also, given my current time constraints, this can't be something I have to spend 4 or 5 hours a day on. I simply don't have that amount of time in day.

Hope someone can throw some advice my way.

All the best.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Originally Posted by earlgray View Post

    I simply don't have that amount of time in day.
    You don't want it bad enough.

    Get another job.

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    • Profile picture of the author earlgray
      Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

      You don't want it bad enough.

      Get another job.
      No. It's that I'm already up at 7am each day and running non-stop till I get back home at 10pm. I commute 2 hours every day on public transportation and my free time at work is limited. I'm a teacher, so when I'm not teaching class I'm grading paper, writing report cards, calling parents, or managing 10 year olds. When I get home, it's the cooking, laundry, cleaning, bill paying, and everything else before I get maybe an hour or so of free time before I have to sleep.

      Now, I'm fully prepared to give that one free hour a day to building something online. Maybe even cheap myself some sleep and give it two hours. But anything more than that and I won't be able to function at all.
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      • Profile picture of the author JoeMack
        Originally Posted by earlgray View Post


        Now, I'm fully prepared to give that one free hour a day to building something online. Maybe even cheap myself some sleep and give it two hours. But anything more than that and I won't be able to function at all.
        I think what what was implying was that to meet your goal of replacing your current monthly income, you are going to have to put in an incredible amount of work.

        An extra hour a day isn't going to cut it (not if you want to hit your goal in 6 months anyway). I mean, it's always possible, and others have done it in such a short period of time.

        But they are the exceptions and not the norm, and they generally worked very long hours to make it happen.

        If you don't have the time, then you should also consider outsourcing. This is a way to multiply your efforts.

        Much Success,

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      • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
        Originally Posted by earlgray View Post

        I commute 2 hours every day on public transportation.
        You're sitting on public transport for 2 hours every day. Instead of playing tetris on your mobile phone - get to work.
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      • Profile picture of the author agmccall
        Originally Posted by earlgray View Post

        No. It's that I'm already up at 7am each day and running non-stop till I get back home at 10pm. I commute 2 hours every day on public transportation and my free time at work is limited. I'm a teacher, so when I'm not teaching class I'm grading paper, writing report cards, calling parents, or managing 10 year olds. When I get home, it's the cooking, laundry, cleaning, bill paying, and everything else before I get maybe an hour or so of free time before I have to sleep.
        First lets get rid of the excuses.
        1. Yo do not do laundry every day, that is only once a week and if you do it at the laundromat, then you have time to work

        2. Report cards do not come out every day of the year.

        3. Grading papers can be done while the kids are doing an assignment. or on your break at school. I know a few teachers and there is plenty of free time during the school day. Plus you have time during the kids lunch as well as your breaks.

        4. Bill paying is done once or twice a month and should take about 10 minutes unless you have hundreds of bills to pay

        5. How many times do you really have to call parents, especially with email that can be done during work time

        6. You do not take the kids home with you, at least you shouldn't, so why is managing 10 year olds even a factor.

        So first and foremost stop with the excuses, and like someone posted earlier, what do you do during your commute?

        Once you have the proper mindset then ask specific questions

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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Pescetti
      Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

      He communicates a powerful message: "To be able, at any moment, to sacrifice what we are for what we could be."

      Truer words haven't been spoken.

      However...

      A lot of the other stuff he's saying is perpetuating an attitude that is from the old paradigm of creating abundance.

      You don't need to stay up for 3 nights to become successful. That's BS.

      When you're passionate about something; when you're aching to get your vision out there for people to benefit from, you'll do whatever it takes.

      The OP is just coming from the wrong perspecitve.

      Here's one of my favorite motivational speeches:

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  • Profile picture of the author JoeMack
    Do you have any funds to start off with?

    I am assuming yes because you are looking to purchase a WSO. If you have the funds to do so, I would look into getting domain name, hosting, and an autoresponder.

    If you don't have the funds, you can go the free route. There are plenty of options in that direction.

    But if you want to get to your goal as quickly as possible, investing some money can speed up the process.

    There are PLENTY of solid plans and blueprints on the Warrior Forum. Most people (not all) find that they usually would rather have spent funds on hosting, domain, and AR, rather than info they probably could have gotten free here on the forum or somewhere else on the internet.

    Once you have your plan, commit to just that plan, and work your ass off. You'll meet your goal.

    Much Success,

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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by earlgray View Post

    Hope someone can throw some advice my way.
    They can, and they will.

    Whether it will be helpful advice at all, to you, is an entirely different matter.

    Here's the problem: you want to replace an income of $3,000 per month within 6 months, and you're asking for advice about how to do that, but you haven't even told us what your skills are. If anyone does manage to give you successful advice on that basis, it's not going to be much more than a random fluke.

    If you get any private messages offering you "business opportunities" on a pay-to-join basis, or MLM "opportunities" (as people who start off threads like this quite often do), please use the little red triangle in their bottom-left corner to report them to the moderators as the unsolicited spam they are. It helps all of us, in the long run, when people are kind enough to do that.

    I was just about earning $3k per month after 6 months (though I earned almost nothing at all in the first 3 months), so I know it can be done. But I had existing skills, and I worked more than the hours you've already specified you're not able/willing to work (I understand that - I'm not criticising: I just think that stacks the deck against you; sorry. I agree with Johnny's post above, to be honest - I also think you probably don't want it badly enough, and that getting another job might in fact be a better option for you. ). Here's what I do, if it helps/interests you: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5721774

    Originally Posted by earlgray View Post

    I'm fully prepared to give that one free hour a day to building something online.
    I understand. Please excuse the realistic and honest observation that in an occupation with such a tiny overall success-rate as internet marketing, it's really terribly unlikely to work out for you, on that basis. Apologies for not sounding "more supportive" but sometimes the truth is uncomfortable to hear.
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    • Profile picture of the author Stefan Vee
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      They can, and they will.

      Whether it will be helpful advice at all, to you, is an entirely different matter.

      Here's the problem: you want to replace an income of $3,000 per month within 6 months, and you're asking for advice about how to do that, but you haven't even told us what your skills are. If anyone does manage to give you successful advice on that basis, it's not going to be much more than a random fluke.

      If you get any private messages offering you "business opportunities" on a pay-to-join basis, or MLM "opportunities" (as people who start off threads like this quite often do), please use the little red triangle in their bottom-left corner to report them to the moderators as the unsolicited spam they are. It helps all of us, in the long run, when people are kind enough to do that.

      I was just about earning $3k per month after 6 months (though I earned almost nothing at all in the first 3 months), so I know it can be done. But I had existing skills, and I worked more than the hours you've already specified you're not able/willing to work (I understand that - I'm not criticising: I just think that stacks the deck against you; sorry. I agree with Johnny's post above, to be honest - I also think you probably don't want it badly enough, and that getting another job might in fact be a better option for you. ). Here's what I do, if it helps/interests you: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5721774



      I understand. Please excuse the realistic and honest observation that in an occupation with such a tiny overall success-rate as internet marketing, it's really terribly unlikely to work out for you, on that basis. Apologies for not sounding "more supportive" but sometimes the truth is uncomfortable to hear.
      Please take note of the amount of posts Alexa contributed to this great forum. Can you imagine how many articles and posts are floating around on the web from that same person? For some people (just like Alexa), writing is a passion. If that's your passion as well, then have no fears. All you need to do is providing good content to capture (and feed) a hungry audience.
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  • Profile picture of the author badlimey
    The first thing I would do is a gut check. If you are going to offer something in the market place (as in actually go out and sell it) you need a level of expertise to at least appear credible. Most WSO's are produced on a cycle, it's rinse and repeat.

    Look for a legitimate business not an exaggerated claim of riches. Most people work a job (just over broke) because they are settlers. Being an Entrepreneur is a bit like being Gay, it's not a choice, just something inside you have to live with.

    I'm not gay but I am an entrepreneur and it's a difficult and challenging path to walk. I've burned through a couple of marriages when the going got tough. For the record I have been putting in 16 hour days, six days a week, to get my business rolling.

    Tread carefully and the best of luck to you!
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  • Profile picture of the author frankm
    Sounds to me like you need to use your commuting time to create something.

    You have let's say 26 weeks x 5 days x 2 hours = 260 hours.

    And you're a teacher, so is there something you could create in those 260 hours that could help either teachers or parents?

    EG create 6 months of membership site content that you could sell to parents at $5 a month. Then you'd have 4 months to get 600 active subscribers to replace your income.

    For example, my biggest regret after leaving school was that I didn't get good enough career guidance advice. You could put together a guide about that.

    Or something about child development.

    If you could manage to access the school's database and mail to the parents when you leave, even better. There could be legal issues though.

    I'm sure you could find a good angle if you focus on these areas...
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    First, WSOs don't have track records, people do. Forgive my bluntness but anyone thinking that buying a WSO :rolleyes: and spending fewer than 4 to 5 hours a day will bring them $3000 a month isn't ready to be in business. It's possible you'd get lucky but very unlikely.

    If I were you I'd get my resume polished up and circulated while studying basic business. There's plenty of free info out there that will show you the fundamentals. Once you figure out what you want to do, only then buy some info specific to working that business model. You might also search the forum as there literally 1000s of threads just like this with some excellent suggestions. Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lance K
    Title says 9-5 salary (8 hours). You say work really ties you up about 15 hours a day. That's the first issue I'd address.

    You could find a true 9-5 job that pays you about half what you're making now & spend the other 7 hours a day building something for yourself. Whether you want to build a business of your own (online or off), provide a service for others (outsourcing), or whatever.

    Teaching is a very noble profession. So where is your heart? Is it in teaching and you're just looking to do something online because you're going to be out of a job? Or is your heart in building a future for yourself as an entrepreneur? Figure out where your heart & desire is first, because you won't like the results if your heart isn't in whatever you decide to do.

    Could you pick up enough days to just be a substitute teacher? You would still have the joy of teaching without all the after hours work. Then you could use your new found spare time to offer some sort of outsourcing service to make up any income gap that may result.
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  • Profile picture of the author MKCookins
    If you are truly pressed for time a simple and effective way to work online is to wake up early when you are feeling fresh and put in 1-2 hours a day.

    This is not much but over time it will add up if you putting in consistent work.

    Now if you are wanting 3k in 6 months -- obviously you will need to spend much more time working online everyday to get to that point.

    My advice is the quickest way to go about doing this is offering a service. Fiverr, Elance, and Odesk are all great places to start.

    Apart from that I would pick 1 proven method to make money online with and learn everything you can about it.

    And Always Always Always start building your list. Very important

    Hope this helps you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
    That gives you 6 months to learn what you can, and experiment in I.M, it also gives you 6 months to look for another job so you can support yourself, so you don't have to live on your moms couch.

    There is no guarantee you can make a full time income in I.M, so be responsible and look for another job, while you're trying your hand in MMO
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  • Profile picture of the author clever7
    I believe that it is an illusion to imagine that you can make $3000 per month in six months without working very hard online and without being an internet marketing expert. Even if you will manage to make some money, you won't make enough to survive.

    Your best option is to find another job and work online whenever you can, after studying internet marketing very well.

    Internet marketing is a complicated system. You have to learn all the details of the money-making process. Most people make money after years of hard work. Don't believe in easy methods.







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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
    Originally Posted by earlgray View Post

    So, we got word today, the budget is in for next year and there are going to be cutbacks. Mostly people.

    I haven't gotten an official notice, but my boss has told me I'm probably on the chopping block. It's fair though, last hired - first fired. Besides, there are people with wives and kids above me.

    Anyway, I've got 6 months before I'm unemployed and I'll have about 4 months of living expenses saved up to hold me after that. Beyond that point though, and I'm back sleeping on my parents couch for a while.

    I'd really like to get started on something that can help me build up my online income that it could take over what my job pays (about $3,000 a month) and that way I could keep my apartment and not have to take a few steps back.

    If someone could recommend a good WSO that could help me get to that point, I'd appreciate it. I don't expect a miracle overnight, but something with a proven track record would be what I'm looking for. Also, given my current time constraints, this can't be something I have to spend 4 or 5 hours a day on. I simply don't have that amount of time in day.

    Hope someone can throw some advice my way.

    All the best.

    The absolute best way to do that is to use the "Copy Cat" method...

    1. Pick a mass market niche from ClickBank
    2. Conduct market research to find customers biggest complaints
    3. What do BUYERS in that niche expect? What's their biggest problem?
    4. Find your hook! (This is hands down the most important)
    5. Create your product
    6. Start with a similar sales process as the big players on ClickBank
    7. Track your traffic and test, test, test...
    8. Keep testing!
    9. Scout for relevant traffic sources to prove your concept (preferably paid sources)
    10. Concentrate your efforts to attracting Super Affiliates

    That 10 Step Plan is by far anyone's best shot at not only learning how marketing works in their respective niches but also making money online or anywhere for that matter.

    Once you understand that, no matter what niche, no matter if it's online or offline, there is always someone killing it so follow them closely.
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonJames
    Get another job, and while you are working, start building an email list in a niche with many affiliate products. Use solo ads to get traffic and send it to a squeeze page. If you don't build a list of past customers, you are always going to be struggling to get new traffic which is what a lot of people fall into. The moneys in the customer list.
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  • Profile picture of the author JensSteyaert
    Every method will work if you fully master that method. The problem is giving up after some time if the initial results aren't that good. This can be solved by just keep on going, and suddenly you'll see it was all worthwhile.

    You'll need somemore time per day though, i don't think you'll be able to make it if you only have a couple of hours a day, unless you invest your money in outsourcing, which can be risky..
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  • Profile picture of the author deprhino
    Don't listen to me or anyone who is not making $3k a month. I am retiring from my career in 5 years and I would love to supplement my pension with $3k a month. I am putting my efforts into video marketing. I was told a long time ago by people who were making a living online, pick just one thing and master it before moving on. Good luck in your quest. $3k in 6 months with very little time everyday is tough. Mind over matter! If you don't mind it don't matter!
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Earl, if you really want to make $3,000 a month, consider selling websites to business owners. 2 clients a month at $1,500 per client will get you there. Infact, just one at $3,000 will.

    If you don't know how to design websites - hire someone that does.

    This will much easier than trying to get there by selling $7 ebooks. Trust me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
      Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

      Earl, if you really want to make $3,000 a month, consider selling websites to business owners. 2 clients a month at $1,500 per client will get you there. Infact, just one at $3,000 will.

      If you don't know how to design websites - hire someone that does.

      This will much easier than trying to get there by selling $7 ebooks. Trust me.
      This.

      Each client will also bring in hundreds in recurring monthly income to maintain the website and perform basic seo maintenance or updates.

      Also, I know someone that went from 0-$3000 in one month in the Warriors for Hire area selling basic services that everyone needs.

      Services are the fastest way there without a doubt. The hard part is shifting from services to project manager to entrepreneur.
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  • Profile picture of the author lotsofsnow
    Hi Earl,

    1. $3,000 per month income with internet marketing or any online based work is possible.

    2. You are a teacher: That is great. You can actually make a lot of money online with teaching stuff. That can be internet marketing related or about computer stuff or actually anything.

    3. 2 hour commute plus 1 hour at home should be enough to get you started. Once you lose your job you automatically have more time.

    Here is what I would do: Find an area or subject that you feel comfortable about and then learn everything about that subject. Then go ahead and build a training program or teaching program for that subject.

    You can use for example udemy.com to deliver your training (some people make over $100k per year with that). There are other similar platforms for other areas.

    You can also simply create a YouTube channel and distribute your knowledge that way. Deliver some training free and some advanced courses for pay.


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  • Profile picture of the author Migster
    Pick one thing, commit 100%, start doing it NOW, and work on it every day for the next 3 months. And if you're not making 25% of your goal ($750/month), use the remaining 3 months to look for a job.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ali Chowdhry
    Hey, Earlgray

    Firstly, thank you for sharing your situation. Which I can imagine is quite stressful. Now you have mentioned you have a time period of 6 months until you are no longer required by your place of work.

    4 Months of living expenses… You should ideally also factor in any unforeseen expenses if you haven’t already. Before I got into internet marketing (A year ago!)

    I was a serving police officer here in the UK for 4 years and I was given an opportunity by someone you may know, Adeel Chowdhry (Older brother -Who i found out to be, VERY successful online). So he essentially explained the lucrative world of online marketing which was completely new to me in the sense of doing policing I had absolutely no idea about computers and websites and the rest of it as you can imagine.

    So after months of consideration I left to start to learn something completely alien to me. So I started off with the basics of niche research and Domains, SEO, Website creation which in all honesty having the right clear direction and REAL commitment you can learn this fairly quickly , Within a 4 week period.

    I can assure you it was no easy journey as I was given clear direction and left to learn the trade. So you have ample time to learn well within your times frame . However you NEED commitment. If making money online was easy everyone would be a millionaire.

    I would highly recommend you learn the basics such as

    Niche/ Micro niche research – Choosing your market
    Product selection /Product creation
    How to use Google keyword tools – Help identify a market – and domain name
    How to purchase a domain – Set up your hosting
    Creating a basic / simple Word press – Selecting plug-ins that will help you.
    Content creation
    Search engine optimization

    These are some of the general factors to consider online. However would be good to know what kind of online experience you have already?

    With your current knowledge in the education industry as a teacher. It may be ideal to possibly teach people how to become a teacher. Use your knowledge and experience to create an information product –A coaching program could be placed onto a membership site : and with membership sites – its re-curing income. Now this is a good business model and the high ticket product you could also look at , you could give private coaching. This can be done via your funnel – members webinars and so on.

    Webinars convert HIGHLY however concentrate on the basic front end initially and then develop your funnel. I appreciate you mentioned your time is limited. I would suggest you start mapping out your days and record what you are doing and calculate where you time is being used or wasted.

    It’s like when we are going on holiday for instance. Why is it we are able to do so much in such little time? We have the ability to structure our time to be extremely productive. So if you say you have two hours then use it wisely. However I would say I know you can meet your target with clear direction. You mentioned getting a WSO. Generally a lot of products work. However people tend to lose focus as they start doing multiple things at once and this causes loss of focus and no project to be completed. Causes you then to give up and complain. This can be a vicious cycle.

    So I would suggest:

    Plan what you want: What is your outcome clearly

    Your Target amount of money: broken down from monthly: weekly and daily.
    Start to condition your mind in the sense of once you know what your objective are – look at them daily – know that you are working towards them and not away.

    Start brain storming, research and plot down ideas what you can create.
    Can you teach other people how to become a teacher? I think that’s a great one.
    Teach them what’s required, training, revision for any exams, any training material, interview techniques, what to expect and the whole overview

    Someone in the UK did something similar and was a HIT.
    Create a membership around this and the funnel you can develop along the way.

    You could have this done within 6 weeks. Another angle: contact various Education facilities with course around teaching and promote your site. Offer your site to a number of students. Get the reviews and testimonials.

    I would love to know how you get on.

    Two options –

    Option 1: become an affiliate and promote other peoples products etc.
    Option 2: Become the vendor – Create your own product and essential your own list … let people promote your product

    [Hint] Option 2

    Hope this helps a little,

    Let me know how you get on, any advice let me know

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