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...But I can't. Because I need the money for school, and I've only lost money in the IM business. I bought a clone site, that hasn't made any sales and I'm thinking now that Amazon affiliate programme might be a generally bad idea, with no real money in it. I made a niche site--same deal. I know niche sites can work out, but mine has not. And I've had trouble doing the work that all the "experts" say is "easy-ish" to find keywords. I'm not looking at over rated Gurus either I'm talking Niche Pursuits and Ad Sense Flippers, which I feel are legit resources on the subject. I put months into content for my niche site and got like two people wandering onto my site for a couple seconds. :confused: I've tried to rank my clone site, tried to promote it, add new content, etc. I can't do it. I've bought a bunch of WSOs. I've tried Kindle, niche site empire stuff, authority sites, affiliate marketing-- I've had a few stabs at each. I really haven't just dappled half heartedly for a few days on these projects. I've put in tons of hours, done a lot of reading and research--nothing is going me even 25 cents in profits.

Obviously I need focus. So many contradicting people, giving me completely contrary to each other. So that's frustrating, and the fact that I'm getting nowhere and have only lost money is also very frustrating. I think I need to just focus on one thing and just keep going at it, which is what I've done with the niche and clone site. It's just really discouraging.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
    When all else fails, get a regular job. Seems like you have information overload.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nicole Nahi
      Originally Posted by Alex Blades View Post

      When all else fails, get a regular job. Seems like you have information overload.
      I was told when I first got into IM, that the best time to learn IM was when having a regular job as it take off the pressure from creating an income rapidly.
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  • Profile picture of the author Social App Zone
    Experience is priceless. Keep going and you will eventually make it.

    Give up and you join the rest of the mindless sheep chewing their way through life...

    baaaaaaa
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      Originally Posted by Social App Zone View Post

      Experience is priceless. Keep going and you will eventually make it.

      Give up and you join the rest of the mindless sheep chewing their way through life...
      Exactly!

      No one gets whey are over night. Some times, it might take months and some time years. It'll be worth it in the end, trust me. In the mean time, you are getting valuable education and experience that is going to help you throughout your life.

      But I see your problem. You need money for your studies, and internet marketing is not for quick money, no matter what anyone says.

      So, my suggestion is, select a method that you liked working on, and stick to it. Try twisting it to get results.

      But, at the same time, get a regular job or do some service to get the money you need for your studies.

      In my experience, services is the only way to make fast cash online. What are your skills?

      Take out a paper and write them down, and then go to the warrior for hire section and see if there is any demand for your skill. You've tried out a lot of methods so I'm sure you have a number of skills that people would be happy to pay for.

      So, my advice is, focus on your immediate needs, which is money.
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  • Profile picture of the author sirtiman
    You need a mentor, loyal partners and grow your reputation. Seems like you are one man show.
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    • Profile picture of the author Erick Griffin
      I agree with sirtiman. Nothing cuts through the BS like a good coach. I didn't start making consistent money til i got some good coaching. Am I rich? No but earning is a process and I am on that ladder up. Take some time and clear your head think about what YOU really want to do. Separate what it takes to make money from the hype. There is A LOT of hype and then get a coach for that niche. Somebody once said if anybody is making money at something everybody can make money at that same thing.

      Originally Posted by sirtiman View Post

      You need a mentor, loyal partners and grow your reputation. Seems like you are one man show.
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      • Originally Posted by Erick Griffin View Post

        I agree with sirtiman. Nothing cuts through the BS like a good coach. I didn't start making consistent money til i got some good coaching. Am I rich? No but earning is a process and I am on that ladder up. Take some time and clear your head think about what YOU really want to do. Separate what it takes to make money from the hype. There is A LOT of hype and then get a coach for that niche. Somebody once said if anybody is making money at something everybody can make money at that same thing.
        I guess it's hard to find that. Most want a load of money and don't really have any good advice. It's hard to find a proper mentor.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          You can't find a useful mentor or coach until you narrow your focus and adjust your mindset.

          You are looking at all the possibilities in IM - and you need to choose ONE. You have a "clone site" (not sure what that is but doesn't sound like the best site to promote) rather than a focused site you've developed.

          Working tons of hours over a few weeks or a couple months doesn't get the results of working a plan on a consistent basis over time. It can take months for a site to gain traction and start getting regular visitors.

          Your negativity gets in your way. If you don't have focus, that's something you have to address. If you ask general questions you encourage general answers and most of those will be useless to you. The more specific your questions here - the more useful the answers will be.

          contacted me in PMs and offered to Skype and sell me things or mentor me. Information overload, contradictions... It's frustrating.
          That's one lesson you've learned - most of the time when someone says "pm me" they have a reason ($$) in mind.

          Calm down, settle down - if you are desperate for money now consider offering services to create some income while you are starting out. Make a plan, choose ONE thing to focus on. It's not easy to get started - we've all done it. If it were as simple as people telling you what to do - everyone would be rich, wouldn't they?

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    • Profile picture of the author Alex Mensah
      Originally Posted by sirtiman View Post

      You need a mentor, loyal partners and grow your reputation. Seems like you are one man show.
      Yeah, I would also recommend you get a mentor ASAP otherwise you will keep bouncing back and forth trust me you dont wanna be that person. When I first started out I blew about $20,000 before I finally got a mentor and stuck to one thing so you need to invest in yourself and get a mentor.
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    • Profile picture of the author David Burnett
      I would advise getting yourself a coach. They will tell you exactly what you need to do and where you need o go from here.
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  • Profile picture of the author harperdy
    You're doing just great man, don't let this get you down. Do a side job to get more income for those things you need.
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  • Profile picture of the author salegurus
    I think this is what you are looking for...

    Originally Posted by 01123581321345589144 View Post

    Best advice I can give, is to never give up on yourself.
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    Every single time (without fail) someone creates a thread like this it says something like:

    Originally Posted by 01123581321345589144 View Post

    I've bought a bunch of WSOs. I've tried Kindle, niche site empire stuff, authority sites, affiliate marketing-- I've had a few stabs at each. I really haven't just dappled half heartedly for a few days on these projects. I've put in tons of hours, done a lot of reading and research--nothing is going me even 25 cents in profits.
    Every. Single. Time.

    You answered your own question. Lack of focus is your issue.

    You said you have been going for only a few months and within that time you think you have seriously given all of those different business models a real proper go and the dedication they not only deserve, but need?

    Some people here have spent years before they succeeded -- me included.

    If you had been working at the one business model non-stop for 2 months and focusing on it like a hawk, then that's one thing. But from the sounds of it you have been spreading yourself too wide. As the old saying goes, " Jack of all trades, master of none."

    Look around you. Find a business model that has been proven to work over and over again. The first one that comes to my mind is list building. Do it and focus on it until you make it work. That doesn't mean buying the next WSO that looks cool. It means focus on the one thing only and do not buy any other tools or courses or anything else.

    If you do that you'll succeed faster than anything else.
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    • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
      Originally Posted by WillR View Post

      Every single time (without fail) someone creates a thread like this it says something like:



      Every. Single. Time.

      You answered your own question. Lack of focus is your issue.

      You said you have been going for only a few months and within that time you think you have seriously given all of those different business models a real proper go and the dedication they not only deserve, but need?

      Some people here have spent years before they succeeded -- me included.

      If you had been working at the one business model non-stop for 2 months and focusing on it like a hawk, then that's one thing. But from the sounds of it you have been spreading yourself too wide. As the old saying goes, " Jack of all trades, master of none."

      Look around you. Find a business model that has been proven to work over and over again. The first one that comes to my mind is list building. Do it and focus on it until you make it work. That doesn't mean buying the next WSO that looks cool. It means focus on the one thing only and do not buy any other tools or courses or anything else.

      If you do that you'll succeed faster than anything else.
      I agree lack of focus is the issue here it seems and overall your advice is good but 'list building' in it's self isn't a business model IMO it's a small part of an overall business and is integral but it's not a business model in it's self.

      It implies if you have a list you have a business that makes money when the reality for most people is the opposite.

      People take the 'list building' thing very literally and just chuck up a squeeze page, throw cold / junk traffic at it and bribe with a freebie to get them on the list and even when they have thousands of subs they can't make any money from them. Tons of people that are on a list for no good reason with no relationship, no trust, nothing and no one opening the emails.

      It might work but probably won't for the majority. Most people cannot make this method work as seen by the endless amount of people on this very forum who have huge lists built around nothing of unresponsive people who never read anything they are sent.

      Product creation WITH a list...now that's more of a business but even still there's much more to the overall business than that. Create valuable products people want / need and sell them to them and build a list of buyers in the process would work much better than focusing solely on 'list building'.
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    • Originally Posted by WillR View Post

      Every single time (without fail) someone creates a thread like this it says something like:



      Every. Single. Time.

      You answered your own question. Lack of focus is your issue.

      You said you have been going for only a few months and within that time you think you have seriously given all of those different business models a real proper go and the dedication they not only deserve, but need?

      Some people here have spent years before they succeeded -- me included.

      If you had been working at the one business model non-stop for 2 months and focusing on it like a hawk, then that's one thing. But from the sounds of it you have been spreading yourself too wide. As the old saying goes, " Jack of all trades, master of none."

      Look around you. Find a business model that has been proven to work over and over again. The first one that comes to my mind is list building. Do it and focus on it until you make it work. That doesn't mean buying the next WSO that looks cool. It means focus on the one thing only and do not buy any other tools or courses or anything else.

      If you do that you'll succeed faster than anything else.
      Agreed. I know I'm just producing a normal "freak out, I'm failing at IM" post here. Thanks for the advice.
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    • Will hits the nail on it head completely!! focus on one thing!
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  • Profile picture of the author Oliver13
    Just focus on "ONE" business model.
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    Sell the site to make a few quick bucks.
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  • Profile picture of the author chipkole
    Perseverance!!! Giving up is not an option...When you feel like giving up it often times means success is right around the corner. Looking forward to hearing about your future success

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  • Profile picture of the author juliantan
    Hi Determined Warrior, I am kind of in the same boat as you and the one thing my mentor has been preaching is ' the money is in the list.'
    Focus on that and let the rest be your additional and I am sure they will all fall into place one day.
    I don't know if you like the singer 'Pink', she released a song called "Try". The lyrics are fantastic and it has motivated me to keep trying. Cheers to you.
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  • Profile picture of the author WebPen
    Have you tried offering some kind of service, like writing, graphics, SEO or web design?

    A lot of people knock the idea of a service, saying "you're selling your time."

    Well, guess what- you also sell your time when you're spending it all just reading.

    ...except then, you're selling your time for NO income.
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    • Profile picture of the author Devin X
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      Originally Posted by 01123581321345589144 View Post

      Obviously I need focus. So many contradicting people, giving me completely contrary to each other. So that's frustrating, and the fact that I'm getting nowhere and have only lost money is also very frustrating. I think I need to just focus on one thing and just keep going at it, which is what I've done with the niche and clone site.
      You've answered your own question here. Stop listening to the superfluity of nonsense around here and focus on the fundamentals as explained in that thread. Don't PM anyone, don't buy anything else...just lock in and get to work.

      Originally Posted by sirtiman View Post

      You need a mentor, loyal partners and grow your reputation. Seems like you are one man show.
      No, he doesn't need a mentor. He needs to buckle down and focus.

      Originally Posted by wealthyseven View Post

      I would advise getting yourself a coach. They will tell you exactly what you need to do and where you need o go from here.
      No, he doesn't need a coach. He needs to buckle down and focus.

      Originally Posted by Oliver13 View Post

      Just focus on "ONE" business model.
      Exactly. F-O-C-U-S

      Originally Posted by Ali Chowdhry View Post

      Hey...PM me...
      No, do not PM anyone...do not buy anything else. Buckle down, focus, and get to work.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ali Chowdhry
        I agree do not purchase any other products.

        However, Having a mentor whom can give you clear direction is good. Dont worry i am not selling you anything. If i can share with you what Ive learnt and for it to help you then great... As we've all been there before and its nice to actually have some one to actually HELP you with no hidden agenda.

        Not everyone is trying to make self gain through someone else's troubles. Its all about networking and helping one another..

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  • Profile picture of the author samjaynz
    Find one method that has been proven to work for someone else, and then stick to it. Don't deviate from that method until you're making money.
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    • Profile picture of the author thedog
      All sound advice, do not get sucked into the latest greatest thing. You need to keep going with a proven method, stick at it.

      This is the main reason most people fail in IM, they don't see results fast enough, so they jump from one thing to the next.

      There's tons of free advice on here, and if you search google, on goal setting, time management etc...

      Find a system that you're comfortable with, and APPLY yourself, to that system.

      Honestly, it's that simple, don't juggle 5, 10 things at once, hoping one will hit... focus on something that's proven to work, and stick at it.

      Every successful marketer on here made mistakes, lost money, struggled at one point, it's the name of the game.
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  • Profile picture of the author CRGreen
    Like a few others have said, you need a coach or a mentor but you need to make sure you find a good one that you will mesh well with and one that is successful and can help you start making some money. One of the first things a coach/mentor will probably tell you, is something a few other people here have mentioned - focus on ONE thing. It's hard to figure out what will work for you if you're getting distracted by one 'shiny object' after another. Sometimes you need to focus on just one thing and work at making that successful before moving onto the next.
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  • Profile picture of the author eternalwarrior
    Looks like you built up loads of sites hoping to make some profit rather than not providing some value to potential buyer!

    The only tips I can give is to learn and master buyer mentality before stepping into IM business.
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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Originally Posted by 01123581321345589144 View Post

    ...But I can't. Because I need the money for school, and I've only lost money in the IM business.
    You just said "I can't give up losing money because I need the money for school."

    This statement is broken. You have bigger problems than losing money in IM, you can't even make the most basic decisions using proper logic and reason. You are not ready to run your own business. Get a job.
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  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    Keep grinding bro. I've been doing IM for years. Invested thousands of dollars. I was about to give up. And then I got a full time job as an SEO - Link builder for a clothing company. Looks like the WF lead me to something great . And not only do I get paid, but I got a mentor (my boss). The $$ I make from my job, I'm able to invest back into my business. Such a great feeling.

    My boss, my goodness. He works 9-5. Afterwards, from 8PM to 2AM he focuses on his business (Internet Marketing of course). 6 days a week. Has a family of his own, has time to party and what not. And he just tells me, it's all about laser focusing and just on that grind.
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    • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
      Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

      My boss, my goodness. He works 9-5. Afterwards, from 8PM to 2AM he focuses on his business (Internet Marketing of course). 6 days a week.
      WHY IS YOUR ROLE MODEL SOMEONE WHO WORKS EIGHTY HOURS A WEEK AND STILL HAS A DAY JOB?
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      • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
        Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

        WHY IS YOUR ROLE MODEL SOMEONE WHO WORKS EIGHTY HOURS A WEEK AND STILL HAS A DAY JOB?
        Why not? He does it for the benefits. But even then, his wife doesn't work. He takes care of his kids. Has multiple properties, plays with the stock market, invests his $$ left and right, owns his own network.

        He loves what he does. Just because he makes a lot of $$ he can't have a job as well?

        I didn't know that we're restricted to just owning a business full time and not have a job. AND if you were working for a company such as the one that my boss and I are in, you'd understand WHY he hasn't quit .
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        • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
          Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

          I didn't know that we're restricted to just owning a business full time and not have a job.
          I didn't say you CAN'T have him as a role model. I just don't get it. Why in God's name would you want to work eighty hours a week and half of them for someone else?

          I mean, if you're doing it, there's a reason. It's probably not a particularly bad one. I mean, he's got a wife and family and chances are good that his wife wants the security of a "real" job instead of the risk and uncertainty of entrepreneurialism.

          But why are you looking up to that guy? It's not about what he's doing. It's about why you want what he's doing. That makes no damn sense to me.
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          • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
            Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

            I didn't say you CAN'T have him as a role model. I just don't get it. Why in God's name would you want to work eighty hours a week and half of them for someone else?

            I mean, if you're doing it, there's a reason. It's probably not a particularly bad one. I mean, he's got a wife and family and chances are good that his wife wants the security of a "real" job instead of the risk and uncertainty of entrepreneurialism.

            But why are you looking up to that guy? It's not about what he's doing. It's about why you want what he's doing. That makes no damn sense to me.
            Okay let me get this straight. When I said Mentor, I don't mean "Oh f yeah. I'm going to do EXACTLY what he does. Work 80 hours of week." I have MY OWN path. BUT, I do take what he teaches me that I CAN utilize for myself.

            I take the SKILLSET that he has that I DIDN'T learn before I got the job. Which I can utilize for my ownself. Does that make sense? And if it doesn't, oh well. I'm completely CONTENT where I'm at as far as Internet Marketing goes, and I'm growing every day. And my boss has played a big role. Along with other factors.
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            • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
              Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

              Does that make sense?
              Nope. Sounds like a bad plan to me. Find someone who does something you don't want to do and learn his skills.

              If he had the skills to do what you want, wouldn't he be doing it?

              If the answer to that is some variation of "no," then doesn't that mean he disagrees with what you want?

              Either way, he's not going to teach the skills you need for it very effectively.
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              • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
                Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

                Nope. Sounds like a bad plan to me. Find someone who does something you don't want to do and learn his skills.

                If he had the skills to do what you want, wouldn't he be doing it?

                If the answer to that is some variation of "no," then doesn't that mean he disagrees with what you want?

                Either way, he's not going to teach the skills you need for it very effectively.
                I'm not here to have a debate nor an argument with you. Seriously. You're like telling me what I "should do." You can't determine all of this based on the short sentences that I've posted/explained. I'm enjoying what I'm doing, and ever since working here everything HAS been going well INCLUDING what I do on the side.

                Bro, I'm happy, and I see progress. And that's what matters FOR ME. Now can we just focus on the OP?
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                • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
                  Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

                  I'm not here to have a debate nor an argument with you.
                  This is neither a debate nor an argument. I am questioning the wisdom in your choice of mentor, because it appears irrational and poorly reasoned.

                  Now, you have every right to do irrrational and poorly reasoned things; many of my marketing videos are made while completely shitfaced on rum, are riddled with obscenities and racial slurs, and display a thoroughly disturbing obsession with the Overly Attached Girlfriend meme.

                  And I do this because of reasons. Reasons that I understand and can explain. The drinking demonstrates that I know my subject cold and am probably not lying. (Most people can't lie convincingly while drunk.) The obscenities filter certain people out of my audience, because I need to restrict that audience to people who are comfortable with extreme behaviour that challenges common social constraints. And by associating myself clearly and repeatedly with something commonly encountered, I obtain a quantity of mindshare that would otherwise take much longer to build.

                  While the decisions appear pointless and stupid, the reasons behind them are sound marketing principles.

                  That doesn't mean there aren't other ways to apply them, but these are the ways I've chosen. You might apply the same principles yourself in very different fashions. But the principles exist.

                  So either there are sound principles behind your decision, or there are not.

                  If there are, I don't know what they are, and I would honestly like to know.

                  If there are not, maybe you should make a different decision.

                  Either way, one of us is helping the other. I don't presume to know that I'm the one helping you. You may simply be smarter than I am.

                  Now can we just focus on the OP?
                  The OP's decision also appears irrational and poorly reasoned. He should either explain the reasoning behind it, or consider making a different decision.

                  The current conversation is a perfectly valid example of this.
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                  • Profile picture of the author wisdomoto
                    Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

                    ...many of my marketing videos are made while completely shitfaced on rum, are riddled with obscenities and racial slurs, and display a thoroughly disturbing obsession with the Overly Attached Girlfriend meme.
                    I love this CDarklock
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  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    Well that changed my perspective in some things. Thanks for that . Wish you the best bud.
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  • Profile picture of the author IMStrategus
    My advice is to set up a goal first.

    Without a goal you'll just waste your time and wont accomplish anything.

    Once you set up a goal, figure out how to achieve it.
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  • Profile picture of the author MKCookins
    first thing first... NEVER GIVE UP

    Second You need to find a method that has been proven over and over again that it will make you a residual income.

    For me in was building squeeze pages and then building an email list. Once I have people on my list I get them to know, like, and trust me then promote products every so often.

    So keep looking around and then decide you want to do 1 method and 1 method only. Do not let anything else distract you and learn everything you can about this method.

    Keep at it until you start seeing positive results.

    For me it was getting my first initial traffic to my squeeze page
    Next it was getting my first subscriber
    Finally it was getting my first dollar.

    Keep at it and if you need any help ask around here, many people are more then welcome to lend you a helping hand
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    Hey, maybe this isn't for you or Maybe this speaks to a larger issue that you can't focus and stick to things.

    best of luck
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  • Profile picture of the author rohitreddy
    You need a mentor seriously.Get coaching from someone what you exactly want to do.
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  • Profile picture of the author TimothyTorrents
    Well maybe internet marketing is not the right business for you. Some people are just not cut out for it. You can make plenty of money offline as well.

    But if you are serious about making money online you need to focus and put more effort into your business. You will be surprised as to just how much money you can make online if you think things through.

    Formulate a new strategy, obviously the one you have now is not working. Brainstorm ideas with fellow marketers, get a partner, a mentor, or even someone to remind you to work. Don't continue until you have a perfect marketing strategy. Work on your PLAN. Too many people rush into building a website but they forget to plan each step accordingly and everything falls apart.

    PLAN. EFFORT. CONSISTENCY.
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  • Profile picture of the author kinyash
    I would a advice you take a break, clear your head and make a choice of the method most interesting to you. Once you have this done you can the write down your strategy of how you plan to implement it and start working on this strategy. Avoid being distracted. Your strategy is your business, everything else is noise.
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  • Profile picture of the author tirpukas
    Information overload! I see myself in past here
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    • Profile picture of the author thedark
      Originally Posted by tirpukas View Post

      Information overload! I see myself in past here

      I agree that it is information overload, but crap information overload. He is actively looking for the solution prepared by others. These rarely work. I know that most of start-up websites are created based on something that works, but the moment that the website really start to make money is when the webmaster finds a good affiliate opportunity that match with the website visitors, or when a product is created around the website, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author Arnoud1970
    Hi Please never ever give up!
    Me too I got some set backs but I continue with daily action plan. Don't get overwhelmed. One of the big threats in the IM business is a deluge of information. You can join free or very cheap programs like $ 7 a month.
    Focus and be consistent. Whatever program you do. Do not give up bc success is determined by trial and error. All marketing gurus with success stories faced a situation like you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by 01123581321345589144 View Post

    I bought a clone site, that hasn't made any sales
    Sorry to hear that it's gone badly for you. I'm finding it difficult to respond because I desperately don't want to come across as saying "I told you so". What actually matters here is for you to understand why it hasn't made any sales, because you can learn something good, and helpful, there.

    Originally Posted by 01123581321345589144 View Post

    I'm thinking now that Amazon affiliate programme might be a generally bad idea, with no real money in it.
    Step back, look at the bigger picture and think about all the people making their full-time livings as Amazon affiliates. What you're suggesting can't really be quite right, can it? You surely don't imagine that they're all confabulating it? I'm not one of them, by any means, but I do enough with Amazon in my very small-scale way not to imagine that for a moment.

    Originally Posted by 01123581321345589144 View Post

    I've had trouble doing the work that all the "experts" say is "easy-ish" to find keywords
    Do you think it might to some extent be your "SEO approach", rather than having a traffic-generating plan that doesn't depend on search engines, that's resulted in its not working at all?

    I instinctively wince a bit when I see someone saying what you've just said there, to be honest. I note your inverted commas around the word "experts" but I also despair of your chances, if you're starting off everything from the premise that "easy-ish keywords" are really likely to make a difference to your chances of earning a living. Personally, I'd advise you - whatever you try next - not to put too much of your time and effort into trying to attract "organic SERP's" traffic, for two main reasons: first, it's very precarious and makes your business Google-dependent, and any business that's Google-dependent is no more than one algorithm-change away from a potential accident (or even a potential disaster), as so many Warriors have been finding out over the last year or two, some of them to their very great cost; secondly, for me, search engine traffic has been uniformly the worst-converting traffic out of everything I've ever tried in 8 entirely different niches over the whole of the last 4 years - search engine visitors to all my websites typically stay the least time, view the fewest pages, opt in the least often and actually buy anything by far the least often. I admit I do get tons of search engine traffic to all my main sites (because high rankings for multiple keywords happen to be a minor side-benefit of the main targeted traffic-generation method I use to build my business) but I'd certainly hate to have to make a living just from that traffic.

    Originally Posted by 01123581321345589144 View Post

    So many contradicting people, giving me completely contrary to each other.
    Yes; this is often a huge problem. The thing that made such a big difference to me, when I started doing this, was developing enough judgment to be able to appreciate who were the minority of people worth listening to, choosing to be guided by them, and ignoring the majority. It's difficult, though: at the start, when you're most in need of that interpretative skill, you're least likely to have it.

    Originally Posted by 01123581321345589144 View Post

    I think I need to just focus on one thing and just keep going at it, which is what I've done with the niche and clone site. It's just really discouraging.
    I hear you. I sympathize. I urge you to focus on one thing that isn't an SEO-dependent business model, because I think that will shift the odds significantly in your favor, exactly as it has done for others.
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    • Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Sorry to hear that it's gone badly for you. I'm finding it difficult to respond because I desperately don't want to come across as saying "I told you so". What actually matters here is for you to understand why it hasn't made any sales, because you can learn something good, and helpful, there.



      Step back, look at the bigger picture and think about all the people making their full-time livings as Amazon affiliates. What you're suggesting can't really be quite right, can it? You surely don't imagine that they're all confabulating it? I'm not one of them, by any means, but I do enough with Amazon in my very small-scale way not to imagine that for a moment.



      Do you think it might to some extent be your "SEO approach", rather than having a traffic-generating plan that doesn't depend on search engines, that's resulted in its not working at all?

      I instinctively wince a bit when I see someone saying what you've just said there, to be honest. I note your inverted commas around the word "experts" but I also despair of your chances, if you're starting off everything from the premise that "easy-ish keywords" are really likely to make a difference to your chances of earning a living. Personally, I'd advise you - whatever you try next - not to put too much of your time and effort into trying to attract "organic SERP's" traffic, for two main reasons: first, it's very precarious and makes your business Google-dependent, and any business that's Google-dependent is no more than one algorithm-change away from a potential accident (or even a potential disaster), as so many Warriors have been finding out over the last year or two, some of them to their very great cost; secondly, for me, search engine traffic has been uniformly the worst-converting traffic out of everything I've ever tried in 8 entirely different niches over the whole of the last 4 years - search engine visitors to all my websites typically stay the least time, view the fewest pages, opt in the least often and actually buy anything by far the least often. I admit I do get tons of search engine traffic to all my main sites (because high rankings for multiple keywords happen to be a minor side-benefit of the main targeted traffic-generation method I use to build my business) but I'd certainly hate to have to make a living just from that traffic.



      Yes; this is often a huge problem. The thing that made such a big difference to me, when I started doing this, was developing enough judgment to be able to appreciate who were the minority of people worth listening to, choosing to be guided by them, and ignoring the majority. It's difficult, though: at the start, when you're most in need of that interpretative skill, you're least likely to have it.



      I hear you. I sympathize. I urge you to focus on one thing that isn't an SEO-dependent business model, because I think that will shift the odds significantly in your favor, exactly as it has done for others.
      It's okay, you can say "I told you so". I know I've made a lot of bad decisions. Seriously I feel like a *&#%^@ idiot buying WSOs and wasting all this money and time. And the longer it goes with making nothing, the morre desperate I get. An unproductive kind of desperate. But I appriciate you being kind and so helpful. Since I've written this post, many people have contacted me in PMs and offered to Skype and sell me things or mentor me. Information overload, contradictions... It's frustrating. They say Kindle books are a good idea, then someone else says, no Kindle books are unsustainable. Focus on SEO, don't focus on SEO. And everyone says it all with stuff to back it up, claims that they've profited from it, and the same conviction. So how do you know which is true?!

      I think I'll pick one thing, and just focus only on that. Create some kind of schedule and make sure I'm working on it regularly and effectively.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by 01123581321345589144 View Post

        Seriously I feel like a *&#%^@ idiot buying WSOs and wasting all this money and time.
        Ach, you and a few thousand other people. You are by no means alone.

        Originally Posted by 01123581321345589144 View Post

        many people have contacted me in PMs and offered to Skype and sell me things
        PM's offering to sell you things really should be reported to the moderators. That's "private message spam" and we all suffer from it. I've had some today, too. It really does help all of us, in the long run, if you use the little red triangle and just notify the moderators.

        Originally Posted by 01123581321345589144 View Post

        Information overload, contradictions... It's frustrating.
        Yes, I hear you there.

        Well, look, we can simplify it a very little bit for you, here: if people tell you to "focus on SEO" then you can safely ignore that and anything else those same people say, just in case all their "information" is from the Urban Myth School of Internet Marketing! (There may be people here who have made plenty of money from SEO-based traffic generation, but that still doesn't make it a sensible thing to try, and most people who tell you that will be trying to sell you something, anyway). :p

        Originally Posted by 01123581321345589144 View Post

        So how do you know which is true?!
        With great difficulty. You have to develop enough judgment to be able to decide which small minority to trust for advice, while ignoring the majority. Either that, or lots of trial and error (some of which you've done) which is certainly frustrating. :p

        Originally Posted by 01123581321345589144 View Post

        I think I'll pick one thing, and just focus only on that. Create some kind of schedule and make sure I'm working on it regularly and effectively.
        Sounds good, in principle.
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        • Profile picture of the author jocke1099
          I am sorry to read what you write! But don't give up... Stop chasing! Work on yourself instead.

          Work on your skills and put them to work...
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        • Profile picture of the author hockmasm
          I love the OP signature...

          All us Warriors are just trying to make a bit of cash online. Best advice I can give, is to never give up on yourself.
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        • Profile picture of the author Niche Profit Online
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          A piece of advise: Perseverance is the key to success.
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        • Profile picture of the author Chris Pappin
          Don't give up, here is a quick guide you should follow, and stick to it, forget everything else.

          1. Build a capture page
          2. Send traffic to it
          3. Advertise to your list your own products if you can
          4. Earn money

          The main thing you need in any business weather online or offline is customers to keep coming back to you, not just the odd sale here and there, that's why you need to build a list
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      • Profile picture of the author DaveWilliams1
        Originally Posted by 01123581321345589144 View Post

        I think I'll pick one thing, and just focus only on that. Create some kind of schedule and make sure I'm working on it regularly and effectively.
        That sounds like an awesome plan. Make sure you really focus on only one business model for at least 3 months. Nothing else.

        I'm saying this because I know how easy it is to "just try something real quick" when you see a cool post or a new WSO. Stay focused, man. :-)
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      • Profile picture of the author edhuu
        Originally Posted by 01123581321345589144 View Post

        I think I'll pick one thing, and just focus only on that. Create some kind of schedule and make sure I'm working on it regularly and effectively.
        Exactly way to do it. Don't jump to another methods until you see some success from this one
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      • Profile picture of the author ExRat
        Hi,

        Originally Posted by 01123581321345589144 View Post

        It's okay, you can say "I told you so". I know I've made a lot of bad decisions. Seriously I feel like a *&#%^@ idiot buying WSOs and wasting all this money and time. And the longer it goes with making nothing, the morre desperate I get. An unproductive kind of desperate. But I appriciate you being kind and so helpful. Since I've written this post, many people have contacted me in PMs and offered to Skype and sell me things or mentor me. Information overload, contradictions... It's frustrating. They say Kindle books are a good idea, then someone else says, no Kindle books are unsustainable. Focus on SEO, don't focus on SEO. And everyone says it all with stuff to back it up, claims that they've profited from it, and the same conviction. So how do you know which is true?!

        I think I'll pick one thing, and just focus only on that. Create some kind of schedule and make sure I'm working on it regularly and effectively.
        Last post by 01123581321345589144 in this thread (or elsewhere) was on 16/04/13.

        Did 01123581321345589144 give up?

        This is a real cliffhanger.
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

          Last post by 01123581321345589144 in this thread (or elsewhere) was on 16/04/13.
          Then again, he was online here yesterday, even if he didn't post. Maybe he didn't give up, after all.
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          • Profile picture of the author ExRat
            Hi Alexa,

            Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

            Then again, he was online here yesterday, even if he didn't post. Maybe he didn't give up, after all.
            Maybe 01123581321345589144 gave up posting?

            Is 01123581321345589144 definitely a he? How on earth can you tell?
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            • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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              Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

              Is 01123581321345589144 definitely a he?
              I don't know this, but it would be my very strong suspicion. (I've been wrong before, though).

              Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

              How on earth can you tell?
              That "Digital Camera Abundance" looks like a man's site, to me?
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  • Profile picture of the author Igor Fridrihs
    Hey,

    During one of my first interview for coaching program (I started offline) I was told to give a word for myself. Those words were:"Never Give Up". I follow it since that time. Sure I am just normal man and I have my up and down. But those words keep me accountable for myself.

    You've mentioned that you bought a lot thus you waste a lot of money. Make your research, find a good coach, find his students to get their opinions and stick to his coaching program until you get positive results. It would be much cheaper for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author jjones0897
    How many videos have you made ?
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  • Profile picture of the author gonzotrucker
    I will never give up this is my dream. I want to work online, and travel the world. Two weeks ago google slapped my site. I lost 90% of my traffic. I will no longer rely on google for my traffic. Right away I started pounding away on my twitter account driving my traffic back up to normal levels without google. If it's traffic you need you can get it from other sources. When I tweet out a link now I get 20 re tweets or more. Build a brand and slowly over time you wont need google, and you can start to make money. Very few people make money online the first couple of years. Don't give up, and work hard follow your dreams.
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    • Profile picture of the author eternalwarrior
      Originally Posted by gonzotrucker View Post

      I will never give up this is my dream. I want to work online, and travel the world.
      Ah! You have the same dream as mine
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  • Profile picture of the author World Marketing
    When I first started I worked 2 part-time jobs just to fund my internet business...Make sure you have some consistent money coming in and then work on expanding your internet by investing any extra money into it....Eventually something will hit....Stick with one strategy until you make a buck...
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  • Profile picture of the author jessmonsilva
    So many people have all pretty much said the same thing. In order to master something, you need to focus on it. There's a quote that goes something like it's better to be great at one thing than to be good at many things. I never could really understand how great of a quote that was until I went into internet marketing.
    I agree with many others here though if you don't have a job or are having a hard time finding one due to the economy, try offering a service for quick or semi quick money. That is what I have chosen to focus on as well as internet marketing so that I can always make sure to have something to hold me another month if I don't make any money from internet marketing. It takes months, even years to get a business off the ground. Remember that.
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  • Profile picture of the author ThorBorwick
    Originally Posted by 01123581321345589144 View Post

    ...But I can't. Because I need the money for school, and I've only lost money in the IM business. I bought a clone site, that hasn't made any sales and I'm thinking now that Amazon affiliate programme might be a generally bad idea, with no real money in it. I made a niche site--same deal. I know niche sites can work out, but mine has not. And I've had trouble doing the work that all the "experts" say is "easy-ish" to find keywords. I'm not looking at over rated Gurus either I'm talking Niche Pursuits and Ad Sense Flippers, which I feel are legit resources on the subject. I put months into content for my niche site and got like two people wandering onto my site for a couple seconds. :confused: I've tried to rank my clone site, tried to promote it, add new content, etc. I can't do it. I've bought a bunch of WSOs. I've tried Kindle, niche site empire stuff, authority sites, affiliate marketing-- I've had a few stabs at each. I really haven't just dappled half heartedly for a few days on these projects. I've put in tons of hours, done a lot of reading and research--nothing is going me even 25 cents in profits.

    Obviously I need focus. So many contradicting people, giving me completely contrary to each other. So that's frustrating, and the fact that I'm getting nowhere and have only lost money is also very frustrating. I think I need to just focus on one thing and just keep going at it, which is what I've done with the niche and clone site. It's just really discouraging.
    You obv. need to start from scratch again and focus on one method.
    Do it simple,don`t overdo things.

    Build a squeezepage,and focus on that only.
    Again,do it really simple. Drive traffic with youtube videos, (with low competition keywords,which is really simple to rank) forums and social media. If you have the funds,do some soloads. Later on,when your list is growing you can do adswaps.

    Thor
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    • Profile picture of the author norhisham
      Originally Posted by ThorBorwick View Post

      You obv. need to start from scratch again and focus on one method.
      Do it simple,don`t overdo things.

      Build a squeezepage,and focus on that only.
      Again,do it really simple. Drive traffic with youtube videos, (with low competition keywords,which is really simple to rank) forums and social media. If you have the funds,do some soloads. Later on,when your list is growing you can do adswaps.

      Thor
      I can agree more. FOCUS is Forget Other Commitment Until Success. do the double D my friend. Decide (what you want to do) and Discipline (Stick to it). In order to success we need master just 2 to 3 things in IM. and move from there. Anyway, it is always easier said than done. Find yourself back. get a job to afford the solo ads cost so that you can build your list faster.
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  • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
    You ARE NOT ALLOWED to quit! Quitting is failure - and failure is never an option!
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  • Profile picture of the author RockNRolla
    The reason to why you have found no success is simple; You have listed umpteen different methods that you have "tried". If you had instead picked one, ANY one of them, and put all your focus, time and effort in to that one method, you would be in a totally different position now.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jsollee
      Originally Posted by RockNRolla View Post

      The reason to why you have found no success is simple; You have listed umpteen different methods that you have "tried". If you had instead picked one, ANY one of them, and put all your focus, time and effort in to that one method, you would be in a totally different position now.
      That was my mistake in the beginning too! When I finally only put everything into one thing, I started having my first little taste of success.

      Don't give up though, anything worthwhile is not easy! It will pay off, and you will feel much better that you didn't quit. Pick one method and master it!
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  • Profile picture of the author lisakynan
    You need to stop buying products. You already know enough to get started. Take a rest for a day, clear your head. Pick up a pen and a piece of paper and write down a plan and stick to it until you succeed. It's as simple as that, so many people over complicate things that aren't complicated..
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    • Profile picture of the author Ron Candy
      Originally Posted by lisakynan View Post

      You need to stop buying products. You already know enough to get started. Take a rest for a day, clear your head. Pick up a pen and a piece of paper and write down a plan and stick to it until you succeed. It's as simple as that, so many people over complicate things that aren't complicated..

      Could not agree more....Become a seller/product creator, NOT a buyer. You have, in your words "failed" to this point. BUT have you learned a valuable skill from all the stuff you have bought in the process? Could you do a 1 hour video/pdf of what what you have learned and sell it? Sure you can, the only thing stopping you is yourself.

      To be clear, I am not telling you to create a BS product like so many other do on how to make a gazillion dollars, but rather a teaching video/pdf on a SINGLE FOCUSED TOPIC, training someone how to DO SOMETHING they don't know how to do...People will pay to learn a new skill all day long, so sit down write out a simple table of contents and get crackin'

      Then RINSE AND REPEAT....
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      • Profile picture of the author James Clark
        To the OP. You can pick what you need if you understand what options you have. So, what I'm saying is what the next step should be?

        Coaching, by it's nature, is more scare. One person can teach a room of 1,000 people how to do something.

        It's very difficult, if not impossible, for one person to coach 1,000 people because observing those 1,000 people would require an extraordinary amount of effort.

        A mentor relationship is a two-way street. To make it work, you need to bring something to the party. Mentors teach you what to think and how to think.

        Also, a mentor turn thoughts into direct, immediate action.

        Coaches are hire to improve specific skills. Like speaking, presentation, traffic etc. Remember success leaves clues, but the clues have to be explained to you on a one-on-one basis.
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  • Profile picture of the author jamesrich1
    You only have two choices. 1) Quit and work a job until your 65 or older. 2) NEVER GIVE UP until you succeed. It has taken some IMers years of effort with a never quit mentality. Which choice will you take is up to you...
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  • Profile picture of the author tjaysen70
    yeah the reason you're not making any money, or creating any buzz of traffic, seems easy to me, ..it's because you use words like "try"/ I try to do this...and nothing works , blah blah.

    You have to pick one area, focus on that til u make some money, and then scale up. Don't just try, or dabble, in this one, and then this next shiny object, oh then this one, so you never really gain any traction because you bail too early.

    Try reading think and grow rich, there's a good story in there about the guy who gave up too early, right before striking it rich in his gold mine.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jimerson Farveez
    Originally Posted by 01123581321345589144 View Post

    ...But I can't. Because I need the money for school, and I've only lost money in the IM business. I bought a clone site, that hasn't made any sales and I'm thinking now that Amazon affiliate programme might be a generally bad idea, with no real money in it. I made a niche site--same deal. I know niche sites can work out, but mine has not. And I've had trouble doing the work that all the "experts" say is "easy-ish" to find keywords. I'm not looking at over rated Gurus either I'm talking Niche Pursuits and Ad Sense Flippers, which I feel are legit resources on the subject. I put months into content for my niche site and got like two people wandering onto my site for a couple seconds. :confused: I've tried to rank my clone site, tried to promote it, add new content, etc. I can't do it. I've bought a bunch of WSOs. I've tried Kindle, niche site empire stuff, authority sites, affiliate marketing-- I've had a few stabs at each. I really haven't just dappled half heartedly for a few days on these projects. I've put in tons of hours, done a lot of reading and research--nothing is going me even 25 cents in profits.

    Obviously I need focus. So many contradicting people, giving me completely contrary to each other. So that's frustrating, and the fact that I'm getting nowhere and have only lost money is also very frustrating. I think I need to just focus on one thing and just keep going at it, which is what I've done with the niche and clone site. It's just really discouraging.

    It seems you had followed almost many ways and lost your focus on single project.
    From my experience, I would say, Amazon Affiliate works very well. But it may take time and more effort.

    Prepare a good plan and be focus. To get success with Amazon affiliate programs I would suggest the followings :
    1. Choose product area that you are familiar with.
    2. Do keyword research - Need help here it is - SEO Guide for Beginner: How To Do Keyword Research Free with Google Keyword Tool

    3. Find out the keywords

    4. Buy new domain (Don't try with your old ones - If you need cash to buy new domain - take some time, offer some online services - If you are good at writing, offer article writing services (iWriter.com) - If you are good with other skills - hunt for projects on Odesk, Elance, Freelancer.com and earn some cash to fund yourself)

    5. Write good content, structure your site well.

    6. Start Social Media promotions - As first step, create official pages for your site and then go ahead from there, be active.

    7. Write good articles on your niche - Create blogs on FREE blog platforms and post unique posts and promote those blogs - Because these kind of blogs are easier to get TOP rankings on Google and get nice traffic. Don't forget to add a link back to your site that you can enjoy referral traffic. - Target long tail keywords for those blogs

    8. Find out forums and other blogs about your niche, be an active member/commenter there - these will give you good referral traffic

    9. Now, you should be able to get decent amount of traffic and some sales

    10. Still you want to go more? Start to work on SEO for your site by getting more quality links.....

    You are DONE.

    But, this really needs lots of patience...patience...patience...
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  • Profile picture of the author TimothyTorrents
    Try this...

    1. Change your mindset from "How can I make money?" to "How can I HELP people?".

    2. Create a blog where you write about everything that you worked on today. This helped me a lot. You don't need to make it public, it can just be a private blog that you use to log you progress. Eventually you will create the habit of working and then writing about what you did.

    Good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author TryBPO
      Originally Posted by timbonitus View Post

      Try this...

      1. Change your mindset from "How can I make money?" to "How can I HELP people?".
      This. 10 X This...

      If you're singularly focused on how you can make yourself money you'll end up chasing ways you "think" will work, rather than focusing on the real, actual problems of others that they would pay you to fix.

      I know this sounds a bit vague and philosophical, but it's a change in thinking I've had over time that has completely changed the way I do business.

      A few steps:

      1. Find your "avatar" or target market. Spend some time thinking about this...who are they? What are they like?
      2. Find out where they hang out. (Forums, events...wherever)
      3. Figure out their problems or issues - ask them directly
      4. Find a way to solve those problems - Work through it, test, etc.
      5. Give the info away on how to "fix" it for free (proving you know what you're doing)
      6. Charge them to actually do it
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  • Profile picture of the author ASGmarketer
    Don't Give up, Keep Pluging your products or campaign etc..., it will come.
    its the internet marketing game we play! eventually you will get the bonus you have been waiting for, trust me!
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  • Profile picture of the author newBum76
    The money I've made the past few years is with niche sites and SEO, but I'm finally realizing that the real money (and quick money!) is in product creation and list building. ANYBODY can create a product, seriously. If you can type, and you can research stuff, you can write an ebook. It can put massive leverage on all your IM efforts.....but you'll never know until you do it!!!

    Jon
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  • Profile picture of the author twinkenterprises
    It's hard when you first start out. You get conflicting advice from everyone. When you're first learning it can get overwhelming. I'd take a minute and figure out what I really want to do. What area I really enjoy and would enjoy working on. Once you do that figure out how to monetize it. Maybe you'll start a blog or site and sell clickbank products related to it. Maybe you'll offer a service that you like. Just think of what you'd enjoy spending your time doing.
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  • Profile picture of the author clever7
    If you want to solve your problems, you have to follow certain steps. In the beginning you have to spend money and work hard without making sales.

    When you will manage to get traffic and convert your visitors into buyers, you will start selling a few products. But this is not enough.

    You have to keep promoting your business if you want to have many customers and sell many products everyday. You have to sell good products if you want to have repeat customers who will send you more customers because they are satisfied.

    This is a long process. Building a business takes time, a lot of work, persistence, and patience.





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  • Profile picture of the author HomeBizNizz
    I am switching to write Kindle ebooks to see if that better. With over 100 millions units that reads Kindle ebooks I hope that I at least make some cash there.

    I just made 25 bucks from a single refer to a dating website from a dating blog I run. Neh, too little. But, I will look into it and see if I can optimize that blog.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sell
    I think your niche site needs more visitors, mabye your site is all right, you just need more visitors. Buy a site with more visitors and then add content to that?
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  • Profile picture of the author Brandon Sean
    Hi OP

    I've made alot of money with Amazon associates program and I can tell you that Clone type sites never really worked for me :O But i think if you have a FB fanpage to drive traffic to your site it may work.

    BTW i have some 5- 10 Page niche amazon sites which I hardly monitor ever that made more money than a 3000 page Auto content Amazon site even after 3 years plus now.

    In all honesty though, if i were to start all over again.. I would start with CPA marketing, its really fast to make money with CPA marketing ( there is a warriorforum section on this topic) and dont be afraid of PAID traffic, start small and scale.
    Ad Networks - CPA, CPM, CPL - Millionaire Makers..

    After almost 4 years online, the one biggest thing I learnt is PAID traffic is the fastest way to make money. SEO is too slow and too many uncertainties

    All the best to you
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  • Profile picture of the author pingsters
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    Giving up in business is not an option but failure is a stepping stone and an indication that you are headed to success.
    Success is a process and failure is part of it.Invest more time,effort and money and you will achieve your ultimate goal in the long run.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jtraits
    focus... pick a subject and focus on that.. do not spread on all the topics and options that IM has to offer... then you lose the game.
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  • Profile picture of the author IzzuDino
    Looks like you were like me bro. The problem here seems to be information overload...
    If you have bought lots of products, choose one and stick to it. Don't go searching for more products.

    Take it from me who has a whole load of WSOs in my hard drive. Most of them unread...
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  • Profile picture of the author ClaraBr
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    Obviously, you need someone to help you, some partnership or a team. You need to analyse things, to see what worked and what didn't, and yeah, perhaps look a bit more into the buyer's psychology.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Ning Lo
    I believe you need a coach..

    Someone who will give you good advise and keep you motivated.

    Find someone who is already where you want to be and contact him for coaching.

    Cheers,

    Gary
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  • Profile picture of the author ceenote100
    Just find something that actually works and stick with it. It took me two to three years before I made money online. I wasted a lot of money on junk that didn't bring me any results. I didn't give up and eventually found something that worked.

    But I'd suggest that you find another source of income until you do find something.
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  • Profile picture of the author Teravel
    Thread Title: "Ready to give up"
    Thread Content: "Self Pitty Party"
    OP Signature: "Come see my cameras from Amazon"

    Honestly, this thread is garbage. You drag people in with your pitty party so you can let everyone know your not really giving up but simply having a hard time.

    The reason you're having a hard time is because your in the wrong place. Everyone here knows about and more than likely advertises for Amazon already. Take your signature to a forum about PHOTOGRAPHY! Then stop talking about Marketing, and talk about PHOTOGRAPHY!

    All us Warriors are just trying to make a bit of cash online. Best advice I can give, is to never give up on yourself. Good luck to all. Check out: Digital Camera Abundance for thousands of camera reviews and products.
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  • Profile picture of the author W Wattles Fan
    Never give up mate.

    A year and half ago I made a video they took me an hour to do and uploaded it to Youtube. There it sat and I simply forgot about it.

    Seven months later (after doing nothing with it at all)I started earning Clickbank commissions and when I looked into it I found they were from this video. It somehow managed to find it's way onto Google page 1 and has stuck there. Over $3,500 in 10 months. I haven't written this to brag. I have written this to show that there is always a way. I felt like you feel now but carried on and I'm glad I did. Never give up.
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  • Profile picture of the author kayfrank
    Yes. You have information overload. You can't try everything all at once. How long are you giving it to see results before trying another system? You need at least 3 months of effort to know if it will work or not. Notice I said effort! 3 months of surfing around is not going to build a business.

    My recommendation is: try one proven system and stick at it. If you need cash then start writing for other people on fiverr or better still get a job that will fund your online business until you are making enough.

    BUT please don't give up. If you stick at it you can really make this work. Think about the money you have spent on products - would that have been better invested with a coach - who could direct you and make sure you did the work you needed to? Think about it. But dont give up! :-) All the best. K
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  • Profile picture of the author umc
    To the OP, I've been there, done that, even recently. I kind of walked away for a bit myself. What I'm realizing is that it isn't simply a lack of focus, that lack of focus exists because I was just chasing money, and that simply isn't enough. Learn strategies from wso's or threads here, but find an application that you really care about and you'll find more staying power. I'm in the process now of filling out a model that will suit me and give me something I care about in order to stick with it and avoid distractions.
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    • Profile picture of the author NeshSab
      First of all, you need to work on your mindset. Read motivational books (Tony Robbins, Les Brown, etc.) and watch online seminars or motivational videos every day.

      The right mindset is the key for achieving anything you want.

      Regards,
      Nesh.
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  • Profile picture of the author junfeng
    Hey don't give up dude...the future is bright.
    i just want to say . if you are a affiliate with the clickbank. you will have a really hard time to make a sales , because that's what i'm been through, i mean it works..but the thing is you have to put a lot of work in it. which mean it takes long period to see the result,

    "If you spend too much time thinking about a thing, you'll never get it done."
    - Bruce Lee


    Good Luck!
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